The American Geophysical Union has just published its new Statement on Climate Change, here is the press release. Here is how they describe it:
“AGU has a responsibility to help policy makers and the public understand the impacts our science can have on public health and safety, economic stability and growth, and national security,” said Gerald North, chair of AGU’s Climate Change Position Statement Review Panel. “Because our understanding of climate change and its impacts on the world around us has advanced so significantly in the last few years, it was vitally important that AGU update its position statement. The new statement is more reflective of the current state of scientific knowledge. It also calls greater attention to the specific societal impacts we face and actions that can diminish the threat.”
The AGU Statement: Here is the complete text of the statement as released, Dr. Roger Pielke Sr.’s Response follows.
Human-induced climate change requires urgent action.
Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes.
“Human activities are changing Earth’s climate. At the global level, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping greenhouse gases have increased sharply since the Industrial Revolution. Fossil fuel burning dominates this increase. Human-caused increases in greenhouse gases are responsible for most of the observed global average surface warming of roughly 0.8°C (1.5°F) over the past 140 years. Because natural processes cannot quickly remove some of these gases (notably carbon dioxide) from the atmosphere, our past, present, and future emissions will influence the climate system for millennia.
Extensive, independent observations confirm the reality of global warming. These observations show large-scale increases in air and sea temperatures, sea level, and atmospheric water vapor; they document decreases in the extent of mountain glaciers, snow cover, permafrost, and Arctic sea ice. These changes are broadly consistent with long-understood physics and predictions of how the climate system is expected to respond to human-caused increases in greenhouse gases. The changes are inconsistent with explanations of climate change that rely on known natural influences.
Climate models predict that global temperatures will continue to rise, with the amount of warming primarily determined by the level of emissions. Higher emissions of greenhouse gases will lead to larger warming, and greater risks to society and ecosystems. Some additional warming is unavoidable due to past emissions.
Climate change is not expected to be uniform over space or time. Deforestation, urbanization, and particulate pollution can have complex geographical, seasonal, and longer-term effects on temperature, precipitation, and cloud properties. In addition, human-induced climate change may alter atmospheric circulation, dislocating historical patterns of natural variability and storminess.
In the current climate, weather experienced at a given location or region varies from year to year; in a changing climate, both the nature of that variability and the basic patterns of weather experienced can change, sometimes in counterintuitive ways — some areas may experience cooling, for instance. This raises no challenge to the reality of human-induced climate change.
Impacts harmful to society, including increased extremes of heat, precipitation, and coastal high water are currently being experienced, and are projected to increase. Other projected outcomes involve threats to public health, water availability, agricultural productivity (particularly in low-latitude developing countries), and coastal infrastructure, though some benefits may be seen at some times and places. Biodiversity loss is expected to accelerate due to both climate change and acidification of the oceans, which is a direct result of increasing carbon dioxide levels.
While important scientific uncertainties remain as to which particular impacts will be experienced where, no uncertainties are known that could make the impacts of climate change inconsequential. Furthermore, surprise outcomes, such as the unexpectedly rapid loss of Arctic summer sea ice, may entail even more dramatic changes than anticipated.
Actions that could diminish the threats posed by climate change to society and ecosystems include substantial emissions cuts to reduce the magnitude of climate change, as well as preparing for changes that are now unavoidable. The community of scientists has responsibilities to improve overall understanding of climate change and its impacts. Improvements will come from pursuing the research needed to understand climate change, working with stakeholders to identify relevant information, and conveying understanding clearly and accurately, both to decision makers and to the general public.”
Adopted by the American Geophysical Union December 2003; Revised and Reaffirmed December 2007, February 2012, August 2013.
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Roger Pielke Sr response:
Humanity Has A Significant Effect on Climate – The AGU Community Has The Responsibility To Accurately Communicate The Current Understanding Of What is Certain And What Remains Uncertain [May 10 2013]
By Roger A. Pielke Sr.
I served on the AGU Panel to draft the updated Position Statement on “Human Impacts on Climate”. We were charged by the AGU to provide
“…..an up-to-date statement [that] will assure that AGU members, the public, and policy makers have a more current point of reference for discussion of climate change science that is intrinsically relevant to national and international policy.”
In my view, this means we were tasked to report on the most important aspects of climate change. This was incompletely done in the Statement, where they inaccurately, in my view, discuss a view of climate change that is dominated by the emission of CO2 and a few other greenhouse gases. Indeed, the Committee, under the direction of Jerry North, with the report writing subgroup led by Susan Hassol, was clearly motivated to produce a Statement of this one particular view. Under his leadership, other views were never given an adequate opportunity to be discussed.
The Committee, instead of presenting the actual state of scientific understanding on the issue of climate change, used the following approach, as summarized in my son’s book “The Honest Broker”
Scientific activity is diverse enough to provide information that can be used to support different perspectives on any topic … [to] decide the course of action and then find information to back it up is a common practice across the political spectrum. “
The Committee leadership already had a course of action in mind even when we were appointed.
I presented to the Committee what I have concluded is a more scientifically robust Statement. I started from their Statement, and accepted what I could, as well as sought to remain close to their length.
I sought to answer the following questions, which the Statement accepted by the Committee incompletely does and/or does not address at all.
- What is the definition of climate and climate change?
- What are the societally and environmentally important climate metrics (e.g. a global average surface temperature trend; changes in ocean and atmospheric circulation patterns over multi-year time periods; sea level rise, trends in extreme weather etc)?
- What are the main human and natural climate forcings?
- What is the observational evidence for climate change?
- What is the skill of the global and regional climate model projections
(predictions) of changes in these metrics on multi-decadal time scales?
- What are recommended pathways forward to reduce the risk from climate,
including changes in climate over time?
My proposed text of a more balanced Statement on “Human Impacts on Climate” is
Humanity Has A Significant Effect on Climate – The Scientific Community Has The Responsibility To Communicate The Current Understanding Of What is Certain And What Remains Uncertain
Climate is defined here as the statistical description of all the elements in the climate system (including the atmosphere, ocean, land surface and cryosphere), including both the mean state and any variations over time. Climate change is defined as a shift in the statistical description of climate. Climate change includes radiative, biophysical, biogeochemical and biogeographic effects. “Human-caused climate change” is a change resulting from one or more of the human climate forcings.
The natural Earth’s climate system, even in the absence of humans, is nonlinear in which forcings and response are not necessarily proportional; thus change is often episodic and abrupt, rather than slow and gradual. Climate has always changed over time. As Earth’s population has grown, however, human climate forcings have become significant on the local, regional and global scales. These human forcings include greenhouse gas emissions (e.g. CO2, methane, CFCs), aerosol emissions and deposition [e.g., black carbon (soot), sulfates, and reactive nitrogen], and changes in land use and land cover. A number of these forcings are spatially heterogeneous and include the effect of aerosols on clouds and associated precipitation. Most, if not all, of these human radiative, biophysical, biogeochemical and biogeographic influences on regional and global climate will continue to be of concern during the coming decades. Natural climate forcings and feedbacks will also continue to be major effects on this time period.
With respect to human climate forcings, among their effects is their role in altering atmospheric and ocean circulation features away from what they would be in the natural climate system. While the greenhouse and aerosol emissions, in particular, have resulted in changes to the global average radiative forcings, the use of a global averaged radiative forcing or a global average surface temperature are grossly inadequate metrics to diagnose such effects as circulation changes on multi-decadal time scales. It is these regional scale atmospheric and ocean circulations that have the dominant effect on societally and environmentally important weather events such as droughts, floods, tropical cyclones, etc and any possible alteration by human climate forcings is a major concern.
It is also important to recognize that changes in the global radiative forcings (global warming or cooling) represent only a subset of climate change. The ocean is the component of the climate system that is best suited for quantifying climate system heat change. There are major unresolved issues concerning the ability of a global average surface temperature trend to accurately measure climate system heat changes. “Global Warming” can be much more accurately monitored in terms of an increase in the global annual average heat content measured in Joules.
Scientific confidence of the occurrence of climate change include, for example, that over at least the last 50 years there have been increases in the atmospheric concentration of CO2; increased nitrogen and soot (black carbon) deposition; changes in the surface heat and moisture fluxes over land; increases in lower tropospheric and upper ocean temperatures and ocean heat content; the elevation of sea level; and a large decrease in summer Arctic sea ice coverage and a modest increase in Antarctic sea ice coverage. Over the last ten years, lower tropospheric and upper ocean temperatures increases, however, have been less than in the preceding years, for reasons that are actively being debated.
These climate changes are a result of human and natural climate forcings and feedbacks – the relative role of each in altering atmospheric and ocean circulation features, and even the global annual average radiative forcing, however, is still uncertain. We do know that added carbon dioxide is the largest human-caused, and black carbon the second largest positive annual, global-averaged radiative forcing, while sulfates are among the largest human-caused negative annual, global-averaged radiative forcing. The importance of decadal and longer variations in natural annual, global-averaged radiative forcing (e.g. due to solar, and from internal natural climate feedbacks, such as from cloudiness), however, remains uncertain.
Climate models, unfortunately, are still unable to provide skillful predictions of changes in regional climate statistics on multi-decadal time scales at the detail desired by the impacts communities. Even on the global scale, the annual, global-averaged radiative forcing predicted by the models is significantly greater than has been observed based on the accumulation of Joules in the climate system. The summer arctic sea ice extent, in contrast, has been significantly under predicted by the models, while the summer Antarctic sea ice extent increase has been missed by the models. Also attribution of specific extreme weather events to multi-decadal changes in climate has not yet been shown, and is likely not even possible.
We recommend a way forward that promotes effective policy decisions even with these uncertainties. The Statement on Climate Change that was adopted by the majority on the Committee, unfortunately, does not provide an accurate summary of our understanding of climate change issues, and, thus, is not an effective policy framework to reduce risks from the climate system.
The effective use of mitigation and adaption to reduce the risk to water resources, food, energy, human health and well-being, and ecosystem function from climate (including changes in the climate system) requires a multi-disciplinary, multi-faceted approach. Attempts to significantly influence climate impacts based on just controlling CO2 and a few other greenhouse gases emissions is an inadequate and incomplete policy for this purpose.The goal should be to seek politically and technologically practical ways (with minimal cost and maximum benefit) to reduce the vulnerability of the environment and society to the entire spectrum of human-caused and natural risks including those from climate, but also from all other environmental and social threats.
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I noticed this in the AGW statement “they document decreases in the extent of …….., and Arctic sea ice.” There is a similar statement in the recent papers by the UK Met. Office, claiming that the decxrease in Arctic sea ice is an indicator of CAGW. Maybe so, maybe not.
But it appears that the data, this year in 2013, is not going according to the warmists plans. Arctic sea ice is not behaving the way it was forecast to behave in 2013. In fact, I suggest that this year the minimum ice extent may be much greater than it has been in recent years. We will know in about 6 weeks. I cannot predict the future, but I suggest Arctic sea ice is a Sword of Damocles hanging over the AGU statement. It could be as early as next year, or maybe 2015, when Arctic sea ice is seen to be increasing, rather than decreasing.
Is the northern hemisphere ice thingy shrinking? Yes. How long has the the northern hemisphere ice thingy been shrinking? At least ten thousand years. How much of the shrink cannot be attributed to man? The last ten thousand years excepting perhaps the last several hundred.
Pielke’s response is the finest summary of the state of knowledge on climate and climate change I have read. Thank you
“Climate models, unfortunately, are still unable to provide skillful predictions of changes in regional climate statistics on multi-decadal time scales at the detail desired by the impacts communities. Even on the global scale, the annual, global-averaged radiative forcing predicted by the models is significantly greater than has been observed based on the accumulation of Joules in the climate system”
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Because they are hindcasting and tuning them to numbers that have been jiggled…even if someone invented the perfect computer game….no one would know it, it would never be right….because they are not tuned to accurate past temps
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“The summer arctic sea ice extent, in contrast, has been significantly under predicted by the models,”
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Models don’t do wind…………
“The Committee leadership already had a course of action in mind even when we were appointed.”
IOW, shut up because shut up.
How about getting them to state what kind of hypothetical evidence there might be which would be evidence *against* global warming, considering that their statements seems to say that both warming and cooling are consistent with the theory?
My response to the AGU: “Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!!”.
Next time, AGU, take the themometer out of your pants before making silly, unsubstantiated predictions and recommendations.
Oh, and seriously consider Roger Pielke’s astute rebuttal and make the necessary corrections to your “Statement”.
I see the religious AGW fanatics continue to ignore data which contradicts their position. When you have blind faith, reality is not important.
“Anthropogenic greenhouse gases are likely responsible for more than .35C and less than .8C increase in global average temperature over the last 140 years, due to a combination of feedbacks and direct effects of the greenhouse gases. During this time there was a X% increase in greenhouse gas concentrations.”
I don’t care much for either statement. Both ignore the significant contribution of natural ENSO variations that can lead to long term warming and cooling trends without one iota of help or hindrance from humans. The entire thing is up in the air and leads to the type of decisions once made based on a toss of stones by a trusted witch doctor.
No organisation in this political climate is going to say anything other than the party line, nor to give the impression that it doesn’t trust climate scientists. Its funding depends on being politically correct. The official statement is therefore to be expected and Roger Pielke’s statement is (unfortunately) naive in its inclusion of uncertainty.
I’d like to see a graph of global average temperature data adjusted for the direct effect of greenhouse gas concentrations.
I’d also like to see correlation with absolute K temp, not anomaly. Maybe adjusted for distance from sun.
Pielke and the AGU suffer from the same disease, verbal diarrhoea. I have never read so much ill defined codswallop in my life. Assumption, presumption, supposition, wishful thinking to disguise the fact that they havent a clue how our climate functions but like to give the impression that they do. The most likely rationale is that our behaviour and the result of it is so insignificant the planet Earth doesnt even know that we exist. Again the argument returns to the fact that before we started to burn fossil fuel the climate changed and still no one really knows why and anyone who gives the impression that they do by an over indulgence in meaningless technobabble is more corrupt than the likes of Al Gore who makes it quite clear what his ambition is, getting rich. Forcing this, forcing that pure conjecture, humbug we have not changed anything our climate is beyond our control and way beyond our influence. There is no evidence that we have made a difference you guys just enjoy tilting at windmills instead of getting a real job doing something useful with a genuine outcome. If you want to do something useful try to work out to clean up the Ganges now thats a real challenge but you wont do that your preference is to indulge in mealy mouthed appeasement.
“Climate models predicted that global temperatures w
illould continue to rise, with the amount of warming primarily determined by the level of emissions, but that did not happen. Despite much wringing of hands, wailing, and gnashing of teeth, hHigher emissions of greenhouse gaseswilldid not lead to larger warming, and greater risks to society and ecosystems. Some additional warming is unavoidablelikely due to past emissions.There. Fixed that for ’em.
If they’d just hire a decent editor, they wouldn’t get themselves into these predicaments.
Evidently I have missed something. In Dr. Pielke’s response,He says “We do KNOW that added CO2 is the largest human-caused, and black carbon the second largest positive annual, global-averaged radiative forcing——- . (emphasis mine).
It was my understanding that we do NOT know, empirically, that this is true.
Could someone please point me to the source of this knowledge.
Much obliged.
The Committee leadership already had a course of action in mind even when we were appointed.
It is often the case that the membership of such committees are chosen with a particular outcome in mind, based upon the mindset of those chosen.
Lot’s of words wasted on a non existing problem.
Sorry but that’s my 2 cents worth of contribution to the subject.
[snip – Chemtrails – take that junk elsewhere, we don’t allow it here by site policy – Anthony]
It’s all crap
Activists are doubling down on their initial bad bet, fully attaching their reputation to an immediate end to our little warming pause just as the sun takes a major nap and the major ocean cycles have just started an earnest descent.
It’s going to be hilarious to watch all the scrambling as the average temperatures drop over the next 30 years or so.
This is still uncertain. Humanity has SOME effect on climate, but it may not be significant, either in the statistical sense of being discernable or in the broader sense of having an effect that is large enough to warrant concern. From the way Roger uses the concept of significance in the body of his statement I think that what he actually means is that the human effects are large enough that they COULD be significant, hence they warrant monitoring and investigation.
If feedback effects turn out to be strongly negative, which certainly has not been ruled out, then CO2 effects would not be significant in anything but the most trivial sense, and the same should be true for sulfates and black carbon (unless we start intentionally dusting the great white north in an attempt to forestall cooling).
CFC effects on stratospheric ozone might turn out to be significant for climate but these effects are still so little understood that that again nothing can be said with certainty about whether these effects are really significant or not.
“Could be significant” is not the same as “significant.” I’d like to see Roger be more precise with his language here.
The AGU statement reads like a grant application.
I would add this, given it is what the AGU statement doesn’t say which is most telling:
It is stated that “The changes are inconsistent with explanations of climate change that rely on known natural influences.”
It should be noted that nearly all major historical climate changes (such as the late Pleistocene ice ages, where sea level changed by over 100 meters), are inconsistent with explanations of climate change that rely on known natural influences.
Whats the point of saying its ‘inconsistent’ with known natural influences when the majority of natural influences are unknown, or simply cherry picked to suit the data?
FAIL!
Einstein did not feel the need to ‘help policy makers’. Nor did any of the other giants of science (though they could choose to). Helping policy makers is not their affair, their business is explaining the science as they know it. As for the rest of the statement I cannot comment as I am fuming with anger – too much to say. The statement is SHIT. Grrrrr.
[Now reading the Pielke response.]