http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/vef/deathvalley/
I sent this last Tuesday, I have not seen a response from either individual listed here as press contacts at the press release for the 100th anniversary of the hottest temperature ever. Perhaps the questions are just too difficult. – Anthony
From: Anthony Watts
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 8:10 AM
To: daniel.berc@noaa.gov
Cc: cheryl_chipman@nps.gov
Subject: Death Valley 134 Celebration
Good morning,
I’ll be covering this event. I have some important questions that I’d like to ask.
1. Do you have press passes available?
2. Why did NOAA decommission the MMTS electronic sensor near the front of the Visitor Center last year and go back to using the mercury thermometer in the Stevenson Screen? What was the impetus? Am I correct in noting that the MMTS thermometer was in use for over a decade prior to last year?
3. When was the last time the Stevenson Screen received maintenance for paint? When I was last there, the screen looked quite chipped/peeling and had some darkened wood from aging. Is it painted with latex paint or the traditional lime based whitewash paint which was the standard in 1913 for all USWB Stevenson Screens?
4. Why does the NPS maintain the electronic sign that shows erroneous readings, such as what was highlighted in an LA Times story during the recent temperature spike?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-heat-wave-death-valley-hits-128-degrees-or-is-it-129-20130630,0,6477803.story
It appears the reading comes from the non-official weather station mounted at just above roof level near the front wall of the visitor center. Is that the source?
5. Who is responsible for the weather station at Badwater basin near the turn-off/parking area and where is the data from it collected? Is the data available? In your press release you indicate that the 1913 Greenland Ranch reading is “…the highest reliably recorded air temperature on Earth. “. If Badwater basin station were to exceed the 1913 reading, would it be considered reliably recorded? It seems to be near state of the art equipment.
6. How often is the mercury thermometer in the Stevenson Screen at NPS Visitor Center checked for calibration? From the photo recently posted by NPS showing the 128F reading, it appears to be well aged. What is the age of that thermometer? Has it ever been tested by NIST or similar entity?
7. Is there any sort of backup or reference thermometer in place inside the Stevenson Screen?
8. Do you have a location (lat/lon) for the 1913 location of the station in Greenland Ranch? What date was the Greenland Ranch station decommissioned, and were there other intermediate locations before the station resided behind the NPS visitor center?
Thank you for your consideration. I look forward to the event.
Anthony Watts
WUWT
Answer You are Antony Watts that’s why there will be no reply. LOL
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Those sort of temperatures might make this a viable power generation scheme.
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/RichardLH/SolarHeatenginePowergenerator_zps48abb7a3.png
As Ace would say, the answer to all of your questions is “eff U., That’s why.” Same answer you get from the government to any other questions.
Actually I might like to fit a diffusor at the top of that. A hot jet of air like that replacing natural chaotic processes may have unexpected consequences!
You are a skeptic and therefore do not deserve any type of answer from us. You will please to keep your mouth shut or we will send Moose and Rocco to pay you a visit.
“Warmist” regards,
The Ruling Elite.
…you may commence to groveling. (sarc)
Richard LH at 8:13 am:
that idea is apparently in work. See Dr. Spencer’s website and this article:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/06/update-on-enviromissions-arizona-solar-tower-project/
Or place a heat protected projectile in it, let the chimney fill with cold air and have the slowest , longest, low pressure launch tube you could likely get.
Areo-static launch velocity and length/temp figures anyone?
Martin C says:
July 5, 2013 at 8:24 am
Richard LH at 8:13 am:
that idea is apparently in work. See Dr. Spencer’s website and this article:
Yes I was really just cross posting from there anyway.
Now I am to trying to use this to get to sapce :-).
Why should we answer your questions? You’ll only try to find something wrong with the
propagandainformation. 🙂Steve T
For the record: I resent the email again this morning, and got “out of office” replies from both, so I know the emails are getting to their inboxes. I got no such replies Tuesday when I originally sent the email.
Ah yes, the happy sound of crickets.
The temperatures around the world are going down slowly but . . oh look over there, a squirrel.
Keitho,
That trick used to work wonders with my friends german shepard. “Hans …….. squirrel!!!!!! Followed closely by much running around and barking.(and no squirrel)
lol
People who collect and process data often don’t like to answer questions on their results. . . Especially if the quality of the data isn’t that great. I once asked why someone used a 2hz low pass filter on strain data. I knew that’s what they did because the data was not only absolutely gorgeous and centered around 0 but also the FFT analysis fell off a cliff below 2hz. “What high pass filter?” Is the response. . .
Damn your pesky, interfering questions, we have a tourism campaign to deal with right here, right now don’t ya know. LOL.
I have to say Anthony, thank god for honest intelligent peoples like yourself who do all the hard graft in checking the fact and calling these liars to task. I believe there is some sort of madness stalking the western world where well to do people seemingly have to find reasons to hate their own countries that primarily being the USA the UK , Israel and some parts of Europe not forgetting Australia where these very same people are rampant at the moment. Yes these people are driven so much by this mixture of guilt and self loathing that they, even as scientist and whatever constitutes a scientist nowadays that they will torture the data anyway the can to achieve their ideologically driven needed evidence.
If this goes on and twice you’ve emailed them now; it not only shows an ignorance and contempt for the truth but also shows that when people like you shine a spotlight on them and ask absolutely pertinent question they all seem to have run and hidden and THAT says a lot.
I know you don’t like getting too political Anthony and would rather skip that stuff and just patiently put the facts out there but you are dealing very much so with a politically motivated almost spoilt juvenile mind set where truth and integrity are sacrificed at the drop of a hat if it helps create a lie that suit political ends.
Sorry to rant but I really get fed up with it and this isn’t only manifested in the sceptic v warmists .
Anyhow everyone all the best lets hope a great summer an snowy winter even though it is disruptive, See even I’m doing it.
Keitho says:
July 5, 2013 at 8:31 am
Now, now! No need for that. I am sure the data has to be duly processed, modified, averaged, filtered, re-processed, re-modified, re-filtered, & then re-averaged, before they pick a number out of the hat that’ big enough to look vey scary!!!!! 😉
Excellent questions Anthony.
I will be surprised if you receive satisfactory answers.
Out of office emails are a great source for spammers. I try to not use them as much as possible.
I have it:
The latest in solar power launch systems.
As you sit in your capsule floating in the bath of soon to be made steam water below you check the seals to the launch tube around the capsule are tight. The solar power collectors are just about up to launch temperature now and soon it is time to go.
The launch tube above has been pumped down to the air pressure at the top of the tube now and we are into the count down.
5,4,3,2,1.
The valves below open and all the stored solar energy and hot air vaporises the water almost instantly so you start to rise. The accceration is gentle but persistent.
We got the figures right today and as we leave the top of the tube we are right on target for orbital insertion.
Eko low Earth orbit? Depends on the tube length and the temps I suspect.
They resent it this morning again too!
They have been getti g away with their climate fear mongering for so long, they now feel whatever they satisfy correct.
Time to clean house, demote some, fire others.
A wake up call is needed.
Well said Lawrence13 upthread.
They should acknowledge the email questions with an estimated response time at the very least. Then again, maybe the questions are just too difficult.
The answers to some of these question are freely available on the web, if Anthony Watts chose to actually do some research. The Furnace Creek and Greenland Ranch sites are VERY closely located. I found the latitude and longitude of both online within about 5 minutes of searching for them, they only differed by 1′ of latitude (same longitude) and 2 m of elevation. Watts is complaining because someone else is too slow or too busy to do research that Watts is too lazy to do.
REPLY: And, are you too lazy to provide the link to that lat/lon info you found? Or was there some other reason you did not provide a citation to go with your complaint?
If you have answers to all the other questions, do tell. – Anthony
The recent photo of the 128deg reading shows that the reading was taken from an angle, causing parallax error between the thermometer markings and the mercury in the middle and thereby making the reading look higher than it really was.