Stunning ignorance on display from Senator Barbara Boxer over Oklahoma tornado outbreak

Via POLITICO’s Morning Energy – May 21, 2013:

Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif. – Chair of Senate Environment & Public Works Committee) took to the Senate floor and invoked the Oklahoma tornadoes in her speech on global warming.

“This is climate change. We were warned about extreme weather. Not just hot weather. But extreme weather. When I had my hearings, when I had the gavel years ago. -It’s been a while – the scientists all agreed that what we’d start to see was extreme weather. And people looked at one another and said ‘what do you mean? It’s gonna get hot?’ Yeah, it’s gonna get hot. But you’re also going to see snow in the summer in some places. You’re gonna have terrible storms. You’re going to have tornados and all the rest. We need to protect our people. That’s our number one obligation and we have to deal with this threat that is upon us and that is gonna get worse and worse though the years.”

[Boxer] also plugged her own bill, cosponsored with Sen. Bernie Sanders that would put a tax on carbon. “Carbon could cost us the planet,” she said. “The least we could do is put a little charge on it so people move to clean energy.”

And then there’s the shameful rant from US Senator Sheldon Whitehouse yesterday.

Here’s a germane question for these geniuses. 

Tell us, what could any tax, law, edict, or protest have done to stop yesterday’s tornado outbreak? And what makes this one somehow different from the F5 Oklahoma city tornado of 1999 that also hit the city of Moore?

What made this somehow AGW enhanced or different from the F5 tornado that destroyed the Oklahoma city of Snyder in 1905, or the 1955 Great Plains tornado outbreak which produced an F5 striking Blackwell, Oklahoma, killing 20, with another F5 from the same storm striking Udall, KS, killing 80?

Tell us you Canutian meteorological geniuses, how could you have changed the outcome yesterday?

For those who live in the real world, reference these from NOAA:

US Strong to Violent Tornadoes (EF3-EF5) – 1950 to 2012;


National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) – National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) – Click the pic to view at source

are below average. US Inflation Adjusted Annual Tornado Trend and Percentile Ranks;


National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) – Storm Prediction Center- Click the pic to view at source

are currently below average. US Tornadoes Daily Count and Running Annual Total;


National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) – Storm Prediction Center- Click the pic to view at source

….are currently well below average.

And when is the hottest part of the year in the USA? July and August of course. When is the peak tornado season? In the spring when it is cooler. Seasonal heat is not aligned with tornadic activity.

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Andrew Revkin at NYT Dot Earth has a thoughtful essay on how city planning (or lack of it) likely contributed to this disaster. He closes with:

I’ll add a final thought about the persistent discussion of the role of greenhouse-driven climate change in violent weather in Tornado Alley.

It’s an important research question but, to me, has no bearing at all on the situation in the Midwest and South — whether there’s a tornado outbreak or drought. The forces putting people in harm’s way are demographic, economic, behavioral and architectural. Any influence of climate change on dangerous tornadoes (so far the data point to a moderating influence) is, at best, marginally relevant and, at worst, a distraction.

Read it here: http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/21/a-survival-plan-for-americas-tornado-danger-zone/

UPDATE:

The IPCC says:

“There is low confidence in observed trends in small spatial-scale phenomena such as tornadoes” and on no knowledge on future development of tornadoes: “There is low confidence in projections of small-scale phenomena such as tornadoes because competing physical processes may affect future trends and because climate models do not simulate such phenomena.”

On pages 8 and 113, http://ipcc-wg2.gov/SREX/images/uploads/SREX-All_FINAL.pdf

(h/t to Bjorn Lomborg for IPCC link)

From the Daily Caller:

An often cited 1975 magazine article by long-time Newsweek science editor Peter Gwynne warned of tornadoes as a consequence of “global cooling,” along with other residual effects, including food shortages.

“There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production — with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth,” Gwynne wrote. “The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only ten years from now.”

There was even a specific passage blaming the “global cooling” phenomenon for a 1974 tornado outbreak.

“Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars’ worth of damage in thirteen states,” Gwynne wrote.

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151 thoughts on “Stunning ignorance on display from Senator Barbara Boxer over Oklahoma tornado outbreak

  1. the scientists all agreed that what we’d start to see was extreme weather’

    Gotta give John Cook his due. Laying the foundation for future political stupidity in the finest IPCC tradition…

  2. I DARE the warmists to come here and defend these fools in the Senate. Come on. Where are you???

  3. By the way – THANK YOU CALIFORNIA! – for sending your best and brightest to the U.S. Senate (sorry Anthony – I know you had nothing to do with that :)

  4. The only evidence this tornado has provided is to reaffirm what we already knew – that these people have no shame. They will exploit any and every opportunity to increase their power and intensify their stranglehold.

  5. I find it quite sickening when politicians exploit human misery to advance political arguments, even when they happen to be right, which she isn’t.

  6. If they were trainable they wouldn’t be socialists. It about redistribution of wealth from the common folks to their rich friends. This is why politicians invest millions to get jobs that pay thousands, it’s about the stealing.

  7. Too many people actually believe that the truth matters to Boxer. The only thing that matters to her – indeed, to at least 80% of senators – is their own reelection and power. She does not need to believe this twaddle, she merely needs to believe that speaking this way will be believed by the low information voters. The last few elections encourage her in this belief.

  8. It can all be explained easily: She’s Barbara Boxer.

    Look at her record in DC. This isn’t new.

  9. ” But you’re also going to see snow in the summer in some places. ”

    Is there any actual evidence climate scientists made such statements before we started seeing snow later in the season?

  10. Severe weather? The past was much more extreme as I can confirm having read tens of thousands of contemporary British observations from the 11th century onwards as research for my various articles. Here is a short taster over a decade. What we see here is probably an early transition from the MWP towards the LIA. The mostly settled weather then reasserted itself for the next couple of hundred years. These come from the annals of the Met office library and are mostly from Matthew Paris a monk.

    1228 inundations of rivers in Dec Jan and Feb –in Worcester- such that no one then living had ever seen the like in their time

    1229 severe winter ‘unusually bitter, waters so frozen horsemen could cross upon the ice, great snow afterwards earth covered for several days.’

    1231 March to October hardly any rain anywhere in England-great drought

    1233 wet summer from 23 March with great inundations of rain through the whole summer destroying warrens and washed away the ponds and mills throughout almost all England. Water formed into lakes in middle of the crops where the fishes of the rivers were seen to great astonishment and mills were standing in various places they had never before been seen.

    1233-1234 severe frost from Christmas 1233 to Feb 2 1234 destroying roots of trees to four foot down then rest of year very unseasonable

    1234 third unseasonable year
    Wet weather in autumn choked the seed and loosened it.

    1236 great floods in Jan, Feb and part of March that no one had seen the like before. Bridges submerged, fords impassable, mills and ponds overwhelmed and sown land meadows and marshes covered. Thames flooded palace of Westminster so small boat could be navigated in the midst of the forecourt. And folk went to their bed chambers on horseback
    Followed by dry summer with intolerable heat that all lasted four months. Deep pools and ponds were dried up and water mils useless.

    1237 great rains in February, fords and roads impassable for 8 successive days
    Turbulent year stormy and unsettled

    1238 great floods in many parts probably December
    Cloudy and rainy in beginning until spring had passed then the drought and heat were beyond measure and custom in two or more of the summer months. Great deluge of rain in the autumn that straw and grain became rotten and an unnatural autumn which is held to be a cold and dry season gave rise to various fatal diseases.

    1239 very wet weather continually from Jan to March, it has continued for four months without intermission.

    1240 dry Jan to March, wet from April to December but fruitful and abundant but wet and rainy autumn greatly choked the abundant crops.

    1241 drought from March 25 to Oct 28 drought and intolerable heat. Pastures withered, herds pined away from hunger and thirst
    December very cold and bitter weather the like of which no one had seen before, binding the rivers killing large numbers of birds

    tonyb

  11. How about the super-outbreak in 1974? According to Wikipedia (I’m not vouching for accuracy but this seems correct), there were 30 F4/F5 tornados that were spawned in that outbreak, including the monster that hit Xenia, Ohio and killed 32 people. Wasn’t this back before global warming was a problem?

  12. Stunning ignorance on display…
    —————————-
    I’m not convinced that it’s ignorance; could very well be intentional misrepresentation to keep the AGW hoax going as long as possible.

    I’ll betcha that if incontrovertible proof emerged today that mankind played no role whatsoever in global warming, climate change, extreme weather (or whatever they decide to rebrand it as next), the politicians would not reverse the anti-CO2 regulations they’ve managed to put in place, and would continue to push for more.

    Shameless.

  13. This morning’s California Water News carries an article that invokes the 97% to call out those who dispute the orthodoxy:

    http://www.kpbs.org/news/2013/may/20/obama-urges-san-diegans-call-out-rep-duncan-hunter/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+kpbs%2Flocal+%28KPBS+News%3A+Local+Headlines%29

    [begin quote]
    Obama Urges San Diegans To ‘Call Out’ Rep. Duncan Hunter On Climate Change Denial
    Monday, May 20, 2013
    By David Wagner
    President Obama’s non-profit launched a website today urging Twitter users to “call out” Republicans in Congress who dispute the science behind man-made climate change. The interactive site helps users find their nearest Congressional climate skeptic and allows them to send these lawmakers a message reading, “Stop denying the science of #climate change. It’s time for Congress to act.”

    The site was put together by Organizing for Action (OFA), the group that emerged out of President Obama’s re-election campaign. If the campaign takes off, Rep. Duncan D. Hunter should expect an influx of tweets coming his way.
    [...]
    Scientists who say humans don’t play a role in climate change are becoming “a vanishingly small” minority, according to the latest survey of climatology research. A study published in Environmental Research Letters last week reveals that more than 97 percent of peer-reviewed papers in scientific journals agree that the Earth’s temperature is rising due to human activities.
    [end quote]

  14. PS: Note that above linked article on 2013 season is by Seth Borenstein. Maybe the AP has decided to start practicing journalism after having been attacked by the regime for which they previously had propagandized.

  15. Senator Boxer has such amazing wits,
    I wonder if all politicians are twits.
    Her pronouncements are so stunning,
    her intellect is so numbing,
    I will just ignore anything from that… blitz.

  16. This is the most worked up I have seen Anthony in a long while. But I fully understand it. I am appalled and sickened by these ghouls as well. They exist purely to revel in the death and misery of others.

    And the people -ah, the people –
    They that dwell up in the steeple,
    All alone,
    And who tolling, tolling, tolling,
    In that muffled monotone,
    Feel a glory in so rolling
    On the human heart a stone –
    They are neither man nor woman –
    They are neither brute nor human –
    They are Ghouls:

    Edgar Allen Poe – The Bells.

    REPLY: “This is the most worked up I have seen Anthony in a long while.” You have no idea. – Anthony

  17. Sen. Boxer says:”Yeah, it’s gonna get hot. But you’re also going to see snow in the summer in some places.”

    This is the AGW theme in toto. Gonna get hot and snow in the summer.

    Lord where does it end?

  18. In the name of empiric science I invite Senator Boxer to step in the path of the next strong tornado with a copy of her bill in hands to verify that a carbon tax can indeed stop them.

  19. I knew the opportunist would crawl out from under their rocks the minute I heard about the OK tornado. Boxer is a shining example of a watermelon with power- A very sick combination!

  20. Andy Revkin at Dot Earth concludes today’s post on the tornado damage with this-

    “Any influence of climate change on dangerous tornadoes (so far the data point to a moderating influence) is, at best, marginally relevant and, at worst, a distraction.”

    There you go. The New York Times implies that Senator Barbara Boxer is a distraction.

  21. My response to John from the EU’s question:

    Is someone going to write to these Senators and educate them on the real facts?

    is: “Trying to educate Senator Barbara (Box of Rocks) Boxer is like trying to teach a pig to sing. After a lifetime of effort you’ll have an ugly irritated pig that can’t sing a note.” Because Babs is our Senator, when we travel outside the state we are required to wear three bags over our head–one to hide our identity, one in case the first bag tears, and one (plastic) to rid California of environment destroying waste. The most accurate description of Babs I’ve heard is that she’s the only person alive that makes Senator Feinstein and governor Moonbeam look good.

  22. Senator Whitehouse is upset because people will be asking the government for money. News for Senator Whitehouse – It is their money, All the money the government has, has been taken from the people!

  23. I’m afraid that this doesn’t surprise me in the least. Sen. Boxer has shown that she is willing to make sweeping pronouncements about other issues on which she has no information — or even counter-information. Some of the things she’s said about firearms have been jaw-droppingly ignorant (this doesn’t even go to which side of the argument you take; at the very least you’d expect that a lawmaker would take the trouble to understand some facts before she takes a position). Well, at least she’s consistant — consistantly ignorant.

  24. Reed Coray says:

    “Trying to educate Senator Barbara (Box of Rocks) Boxer is like trying to teach a pig to sing.”

    In her case, it’s more like trying to teach a pig algebra.

  25. I find it stunning that the likes of Boxer and Whitehouse can be such a unread morons. WTF is wrong with these people? These idiots really do think that prior to 1988 that the Earths weather NEVER produced anything that killed people.

    I find it sick that these scum will use the deaths of people to further a political agenda. I wager the likes of Greenpeace, WWF, Serria Club and the rest will jump on this as well. All the warmists are rubbing their hands with glee screaming: “Its worse than we thought” and “Its Global Warming Stupid”: Read: SEND MONEY!

  26. Sorry to repeat this but it need exposure of the ruling class twits in power today.

    Newsweek in 1975: Tornado outbreak blamed on global cooling

    Over the past several years, one of the knee-jerk reactions from political and media personalities following natural disasters has been to blame man-made global warming.

    As part of his crusade on the issue, former vice president Al Gore blamed it for Hurricane Katrina in 2006.

    In 2008, then-Democratic Sen. John Kerry went on MSNBC and blamed global warming for a tornado outbreak in the southeastern United States.

    And on Monday as the tornado responsible for the deaths of at least 91 was making its way through Moore, Oklahoma, Rhode Island Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse went to the Senate floor to condemn his GOP colleagues for not seeing man-made global warming as the cause. And then Sen Barbra Boxer crawls out from under her rock – proving that Climate lunacy is a left of center disease.

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/21/newsweek-in-1975-tornado-outbreak-blamed-on-global-cooling/

  27. “…like trying to teach a pig to sing.”
    “…In her case, it’s more like trying to teach a pig algebra….”

    There you both go again.
    Insulting pigs.

  28. Boxer “But you’re also going to see snow in the summer in some places. You’re gonna have terrible storms. You’re going to have tornados and all the rest. ”

    Very cute. Lot’s of things that are sure to happen anyway so she can go “There ! I warned you about this!”

    In “some places” it is not unusual to have snow in summer .
    There are “terrible storms” every year in the US.
    There are ” tornados and all the rest. ” every year in the US.

    What she is describing WILL happen. Not because of global warming but because it happens EVERY damned year. Clever.

    “Carbon could cost us the planet,”
    … so I will install a carbon tax that will cost you the Earth…

    …. end change nothing about climate.
    Yeah, I warned you it was going to get weird ;)

  29. Since it’s well known as Tornado Alley, and has been for a long time, isn’t there any form of building permit that ensure that the properties can survive most tornados, or at the very least that people have places to go to to escape the tornado?

  30. Well there is one good sign. if anyone doubted that witchcraft was at play here is your proof, she speaks.
    Last time we burnt witches, it was because of catastrophic weather concerns.
    Witches were blamed for crop failure, livestock illnesses and family breakdown.
    I wonder if the Witch of the West can connect the dots?

  31. How is an F4 tornado “extreme” when F5s have been happening since we bothered to write that particular observation down?

  32. Violent tornadoes are more frequent in the cooler middle of the twentieth century.
    Colder climate is much worse as shown by a new book:
    Global crisis war, climate change and catastrophe in the seventeenth century
    Geoffrey Parker
    Yale University Press 2013

  33. Time magazine announced their “Person of the Year” for 2012 as, Nobel “Peace” Prize winner Barry Obama, because…”he won reelection dispute a higher unemployment than anybody’s had to face in 70 years….because the low information voters loved this guy”.

    We have lowered education to the LOWEST common denominator, along with lowest common denominator for congressmen, scientists and new media personalities. This has been a century long war of monarchy vs meritocracy. Low information citizens rely on the good faith and trust in the government. The twitter, 140 character limit mind span, cannot easily understand complex “conspiracies” until the mosaic is near complete.

    In the last few weeks, the Poser-in-Chief has been on the defensive with relation to three impeachable scandals. Barry replied…”I’m not going to participate in partisan fishing expeditions”. Well…TOO BAD. You have baited your own Benghazi-IRS-AP treble hook Barry and a bi-partisan team is reeling you in. At some point even the lowest of information citizen can understand treason, high crimes and misdemeanors.

    As for Babs Boxer….holler “Warm, Warm, Warm” often enough and it sounds like “Wolf, Wolf, Wolf”. Oh, and if called in front of one of your phony committees, i will NOT patronize you, and demean the Constitution, by starting and ending every sentence with “Senator”. I have NO respect for the lies and thievery that you claim “earn” your present position. You Babs live a lie….because you can’t handle the Truth.

  34. It’s gonna get hot?’ Yeah, it’s gonna get hot. But you’re also going to see snow in the summer in some places. You’re gonna have terrible storms. You’re going to have tornados and all the rest…..

    …and tornadoes are going to make Oklahoma tip over

  35. There is a legal concept about willful negligence: knew, or should have known.
    Shame that so many politicians evidence themselves as either complete ignorant fools, or more likely knowing liars to advance their agendas. Pity that California cannot muster the will to get rid of such miserable representation.
    Why not some Califonians send Anthony’ s facts to here office demanding a retraction? If not received, why not send this to every press organization, California newspaper, and Republican electoral,organization so that it can be used in the next election. Actions beyond blogging are highly desirable.

  36. [snip - feel free to resubmit minus the d-word and insults. Do all SUNY at Albany professors react this way? - mod]

  37. Stunning ignorance on display from Senator Barbara Boxer over Oklahoma tornado outbreak

    I disagree. It is not ‘stunning ignorance’ displayed by Barbara Boxer and similar. . Rather, it is stunning stupidity… or willful deceit. You can’t ‘fix’ stupid. You can incarcerate those who perpetrate fraud, however….
    MtK

  38. How come these wasted politicians keep getting re-elected, but no one ever admits that they voted for them?

  39. John from the EU says:
    May 21, 2013 at 10:31 am

    “Is someone going to write to these Senators and educate them on the real facts?”

    … as if they care about facts ??… pure political posturing in the face of a real disaster & huge suffering … and they see it as a chance to score political points. Sick.

  40. sadbutmadlad says (May 21, 2013 at 11:33 am): “Since it’s well known as Tornado Alley, and has been for a long time, isn’t there any form of building permit that ensure that the properties can survive most tornados, or at the very least that people have places to go to to escape the tornado?”

    As I understand it, an above-ground structure strong enough to withstand a tornado would resemble a bunker, with low profile and reinforced concrete. Building codes could require cellars or storm shelters in all new homes and public buildings. A guy on CNN said a prudent family currently without cellar or shelter could dig a decent underground storm shelter for about $5K.

    I remember my mother telling me about a twister that hit my grandparents’ Iowa farm back in the Thirties. She watched from a cellar window as it “relocated” the chicken coop but left the house intact. Seventy-odd years later, another tornado took out the barn, again missing the house only a hundred feet away.

    Being wiser than my elders, I relocated to (mostly) twister-free California, well above any conceivable sea-level rise, not far from the San Andreas F–

    Uh-oh.

  41. The only dispute I have with this post is the claim of “stunning ignorance” on the part of Barbara Boxer. Based on her record, I’d say that her statement is par for the course. If she HAD done some reading and correctly stated the tornado record (as you did) – now THAT would be stunning.

  42. This is climate change. We were warned about extreme weather. Not just hot weather. But extreme weather.

    Explain Xenia Ohio, 1974, Babs.

  43. I don’t think all of the bodies have yet been found and she’s already re-pitching the “carbon” tax. Proof positive one CAN go lower than a snake’s belly… with daylight to spare.

    [self snip - I'll save the mods the trouble of cutting out a long, unprintable rant.]

  44. Resourceguy says May 21, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    Wingnuts rule!

    Presently, the left-hand threaded wingnut in the WH is doing so by decree, by press intimidation and by suppressing votes (and voter education projects) in national elections even * … Thanks, RG. We needed to be reminded of that.

    .

    * LBJ (one of the BEST election-tilting democrats in his day) would be PROUD!

    .

  45. Two Senators using recent Oklahoma Tornadoes and resulting tragic deaths to push their political agendas is well beyond shameful and disgusting. This is one of those times when I wish we could express our actual thoughts in verboten words.

    Any chance Anthony would make an exception in this case for use of extreme profanity? Cause “shameful and disgusting” don’t even come close to describing how one feels about two Senators USING this disaster for propagandizing Global Warming and spreading more Global Warming F.U.D.

  46. Yesterday I was switching between FoxNews (standard def) and CNN (HiDef) to follow what was going on in Moore. It seemed to me that Fox was documenting what was going on, while CNN was trying to get people on the phone that would confirm their “manmade disaster” bias. It was rather disgusting to hear.

    The most realistic statement I heard on CNN was the Republican Senator who said this is the 4th major tornado in the area in recent years, and sadly they had experience dealing with them.

    I’ve been reading a bunch of online reporting and am frankly appalled at the insensitivity of commenters. Some people really just seem to be too stupid to even have a place to air their opinions. This is not the worst tornado or weather event of all time, but it’s devastating to the people directly involved. We’ve created a whole generation of insensitive louts that simply want to hurt anyone they can with their internet communication ability.

  47. sadbutmadlad says May 21, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Since it’s well known as Tornado Alley, and has been for a long time, isn’t there any form of building permit that ensure that the properties …

    For >136 MPH winds (EF3 winds that is)?

    Sure, it is doable, at exorbitant costs though (think: bunker, or all underground construction).

    For comparison, the tornado in Moore 2013 estimated at an EF4 166–200 MPH winds. Cheaper to build small safe rooms (usually using concrete within an existing above-ground room) or underground storm shelters, which some people have done.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Fujita_scale

    .

  48. “I’m afraid we have several senators that are not smarter than a fifth grader.”

    Isn’t that rather unfair to fifth graders?
    I think it was H. L. Mencken that, when asked for an example of a tautology suggested “ignorant politician”.

  49. sadbutmadlad says: ” isn’t there any form of building permit that ensure that the properties can survive most tornados, or at the very least that people have places to go to to escape the tornado?”

    Realize it isn’t just the swirling 250mph wind of Tornadoes the structure has to withstand. Tornadoes will pickup and toss around, school buses, fire engines, 18-wheelers, and combines. Any of those thrown into or dropped from sky onto a structure will destroy all but the most rugged above ground shelters.

    One company uses 1/4″ plate steel welded onto 4″ box beam steel frame to make an above ground shelter that will take a car dropped on it from 70 feet. That sounds great, except the costs are prohibitive for most. Especially when a trailer home puts those people deep in debt.

  50. It takes a combination of cool and warm air for a tornado to form. Tornados rarely happen in Summer and Winter due to this fact. It is the presence of cool air in the Spring which triggers them.

  51. For once here in Britain we have from the BBC a more balanced view. On the 6pm News we had the environment correspondent stating that there was no link found between tornados and climate change.
    Then there is the BBC article Tornado Alley: Patterns without predictability
    A couple of quotes

    The enormous tornado that struck in Moore, Oklahoma, on Monday has added a chilling entry into the list of the deadliest tornadoes on record.
    The event has many recalling a record-breaking tornado that struck in precisely the same region in 1999, during which the fastest winds ever seen on the Earth’s surface were recorded: over 500km/h (310mph).

    Yet there is no indication that the frequency of large tornadoes is increasing. While 2011 saw the largest number of storms above EF1 among records dating back to 1954, 2012 was among the lowest.
    And the average number of fatalities caused by tornadoes has been steadily declining since 1925 – before Monday’s storm, only one of the 25 deadliest tornadoes occurred in the last 58 years, and most of that list stretches back further than a century.

    I do not want in any way to downplay this terrible tragedy. There are many today mourning the loss of loved ones and thousands who have seen their homes destroyed. But like with many other natural disasters, the human loss is decreasing dramatically over time and may that decline continue.

  52. Boxer and the other guy just deliver deflection at all costs. Look how HuffPo or NYT or our German public media hop willingly on the bandwagon. Disaster! Obama helps! Evil deniers! Just the normal propaganda push; the IRS, Benghazi, Fox and AP surveillance scandals need to be hidden.

  53. Dave says May 21, 2013 at 10:59 am

    including the monster that hit Xenia, Ohio and killed 32 people. Wasn’t this back before global warming was a problem?

    In fact, “Global Cooling” was being touted as the bogey man at that time …. ref the Time (or was it Newsweek) article …

  54. manicbeancounter says:
    May 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    “For once here in Britain we have from the BBC a more balanced view. ”

    I noticed that several times now since Black is gone. But I don’t think I will ever trust them again. About anything.

  55. Appropriate that these two metal giants reside in the elite branch of the legislature, the US Senate.
    They are now poster children for the movement to require IQ tests for those seeking high offices in our Federal government.

  56. _Jim says: “Sure, it is doable, at exorbitant costs though (think: bunker, or all underground construction).”

    Something to keep in mind, the entrance. In Oklahoma tornadoes, there has been two reports where the steel doors on underground bunkers were not strong enough. In one case the steel door was ripped open, leaving occupants unprotected and bracing in a corner. In other case, three men inside had to hold steel door closed, because the latch system was giving way to winds.

    People also need to realize, running to an outside above ground shelter or underground bunker has its own dangers. People have been badly hurt by flying debris trying to get into their outside shelters. Decades back, a friend’s sister was partially scalped and knocked unconscious by sheet of flying plywood as she ran to get in an outside shelter as Tornado approached.

  57. manicbeancounter says:
    May 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Agree wholeheartedly. Best wishes to all those affected.

    I have a question for those in such high risk USA locations – and that is, do you get insurance for Tornado(or Hurricane) damage? How much does it cost relative to the value/sums insured? How are the premiums/risk calculated?

    In the UK, of late, some places have been flooded twice or more – which as a result, means the homeowners cannot get insurance against flooding. I was wondering if USA insurers take a similar stance with respect to tornadoes (kind of one/two strikes and your out?) – or if, as seems more logical to me, that the large areas involved suggest that tornado strikes are much less likely to repeat in long time intervals (e.g. 1 in 100 year events)?
    just curious….if anyone is in such areas or has such experience and can offer comment.

  58. If anyone were entitled to rant about the twisters, it would be the Oklahoma’s senators, not California’s. But Oklahoma is blessed with two of that body’s most-thoughtful members, whereas the less said about California’s delegation, the better.

  59. “We need to protect our people. That’s our number one obligation and we have to deal with this threat that is upon us and that is gonna get worse and worse though the years.”

    Since you are a threat, resign Senator Boxer.

  60. Casual belief in AGW is now entrenched in a majority of people. Any extreme weather event is bound to be claimed as a consequence of AGW, which reinforces this casual belief.

    Most people are not even aware that there is a controversy about AGW (or, to give another example, about cholesterol and statins). The mainstream opinion is occupying almost all the space.

    In that context, it is easy for any event to be used to support the established “fact” of AGW in the general public opinion.

    Despite all the contrary evidence, the AGW juggernaut seems unstoppable.

  61. “But you’re also going to see snow in the summer in some places. You’re gonna have terrible storms. You’re going to have tornados and all the rest.”

    So how does any of the above signal a change in the climate? There have always been “terrible storms.” Tornado alley was already named “tornado alley” before Al Gore had even dreamed about global warming. And in 1974 I saw snow on the Fourth of July in Rexburg, Idaho. So what has changed?

  62. From arthur4563 on May 21, 2013 at 12:52 pm:

    They are now poster children for the movement to require IQ tests for those seeking high offices in our Federal government.

    That would be prohibited by the Americans with Disabilities Act. Challenges would be difficult since it has yet to proven that one can be too stupid to be a politician.

    Besides, virtually everyone in Congress has a law degree. Offhand the one or two that don’t are doctors, with medical degrees.

    It’s not that Congress critters aren’t intelligent, because they are. It’s just that they’re often not smart enough to not be stupid.

  63. “California Water News carries an article that invokes the 97% to call out those who dispute the orthodoxy:… ‘ [Neil Jordan, 11:01 AM, 5/21/13]

    The best defense is a good offense. Their shrill tone and grossly exaggerated narrative show that they know they are on defense. The have been pushed back deep inside anti-AGW territory. And they are losing ground.

    Their frail-minded cheerleader, the Puppet in Chief, can read his teleprompter as loudly as he wants. They will still lose the game.

    Truth is marching on.

  64. manicbeancounter says: “I do not want in any way to downplay this terrible tragedy.”

    No worries mate, you haven’t.

    manicbeancounter says: “But like with many other natural disasters, the human loss is decreasing dramatically over time and may that decline continue”

    Which is significant and amazing; when you consider both population increase and urban sprawl. The fact is there are more targets (human and buildings) for Tornadoes to hit.

  65. News from Oklahoma regarding storm shelters in schools:
    “Most of the schools in Oklahoma don’t have one” because of the cost, Moore Mayor Glenn Lewis told CNN. But he said he’s sure that will change now.

  66. Alert! This just in from the local TV meteorologist, the big Oklahoma tornado was EF-5, winds were up to 200 to 210mph

  67. _Jim says:
    May 21, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    “This is climate change. We were warned about extreme weather. Not just hot weather. But extreme weather.”

    Explain Xenia Ohio, 1974, Babs.

    =============================================================
    Or this.

    http://lcweb2.loc.gov/diglib/legacies/OH/200003440.html

    The tornado must have been caused by all those campfires Indians and settlers made back then.
    Just think. If no one had invented fire we’d be living in Climate Utopia!

  68. For the first time, I have to take exception with a headline here on WUWT. Boxer has proven herself stunningly ignorant many times before and a long, long, long time ago. Perhaps a more descriptive adjective or multiple descriptive adjectives are in order to correct the headline.

  69. “REPLY: “This is the most worked up I have seen Anthony in a long while.” You have no idea. – Anthony”

    Thunderingly powerful writing, Anthony!

    That’s how we write when we care.

    Well done.

  70. @ Gold Minor (re: 1323 comment: “Perhaps a more descriptive adjective or multiple descriptive adjectives are in order to correct the headline.”)

    That’s what comments are for. Why not provide one yourself? A golden opportunity to demonstrate your fine writing!

  71. John from the EU says:
    May 21, 2013 at 10:31 am

    “Is someone going to write to these Senators and educate them on the real facts?”

    One way to spread the word about the folly of linking tornadoes and climate change is to reply to one of those senators’ tweets with a link to a relevant wattsupwiththat article.

  72. I think there is a climate influence, but not what Boxer thinks. The slight 20th century warming reduced tornadoes and other storms because temperature difference is what drives them. The 20th century warming increased the temperature in the higher latitudes, reducing the temperature differences. Global temperatures are now falling, so we can expect more storms and hurricanes.

  73. Thank you, J. Philip Peterson, Billy Liar, and Gunga Din, for the hilariously apropos videos!

  74. “There was even a specific passage blaming the “global cooling” phenomenon for a 1974 tornado outbreak.”

    And they were correct, we are back into a Global Cooling period and it is THIS that will bring more numerous tornadoes if it continues, as it seems is upon us in the coming years. That tornado formed just a few miles south of my home… look at the radiosondes yesterday… it was the -20 to -40°C air just above that made this one a monster, not “global warming”. I’d love to slap that lady silly, tell her to get back into reality and to stop lying to the public from here bullypulpit.

  75. And they’re campaigning on moral grounds to stop tax avoidance? It’s surprising that anyone pays any taxes at all!

  76. The nonsense coming from Boxer and others really annoys me.

    I lost my home, a classmate, several other kids my age (9), the hospital my father worked in, and the town high school (which had just opened that year) in a tornado in Belvidere, Illinois. The school busses with the younger kids were lined up in front of the high school to pick up their older siblings when a huge tornado ripped across the south side of town and made a direct hit on the school and the busses. That was 46 years ago on April 21st, 1967.

    It wasn’t climate change that did that to me and my town – it was just bad luck. It is utterly pathetic for people like Boxer to use a tragedy like this to promote their vision of a restructuring of the planet’s economy. Shame on her for ignorance and gall.

    I pray that more people see the kind of data presented in this post so that they are not victims of the panic-mongers.

  77. Kev-in-Uk says:
    May 21, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    I have a question for those in such high risk USA locations – and that is, do you get insurance for Tornado(or Hurricane) damage? How much does it cost relative to the value/sums insured? How are the premiums/risk calculated?

    No one else has answered, so I’ll do what I can. Wind damage, including tornadoes, is covered under a regular household insurance policy. Flood insurance is separate and covered under a special policy subsidized by the Federal Government. When there is a hurricane there are usually numerous disputes between owners and insurance companies whether the damage was wind or flood: they are different policies and the owners frequently do not have flood insurance.

    The cost of the flood insurance varies according to flood zone: since I avoid living there, I don’t know the cost. When I was in school, the first thing we were told in hydrology class was to be very careful where we live, as it is very embarrassing if a civil engineer gets flooded.

    A couple decades ago I lived in a town that was hit with a tornado; just a couple blocks from my home, though I had no damage. The mayor talked to the affected homeowners and decided not to seek a disaster declaration. Everyone was insured so the declaration would have no value to anyone.

  78. Darren Potter says:
    May 21, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Something to keep in mind, the entrance. In Oklahoma tornadoes, there has been two reports where the steel doors on underground bunkers were not strong enough.

    They need -now listen to me close- “a bigger boat” (dealing with EF5 rated beasts!)

    .

  79. Manfred says:
    May 21, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    And they’re campaigning on moral grounds to stop tax avoidance? It’s surprising that anyone pays any taxes at all!

    A pronoun without a predicate, and then you do loop-DE-loops with multiple negatives so I have no idea what you’re trying to say.

  80. “We need to protect our people” so sayeth Barbara Boxer. Excuse me; ‘Senator Boxer.’ And, how does Madame Boxer (excuse me; ‘Senator Boxer) expect to do so? “The least we could do is put a little charge on it (carbon) so people move to clean energy.”

    Oh, I feel quite comfortable now! When the tornadoes come, well I’ll just tape my carbon tax forms to the windows and retreat to my carbon tax form wallpapered cellar. Hurricane? What hurricane? I’ll just ride it out on my carbon tax form paper mâché boat. Golf ball sized hail? You guessed it; a carbon tax form hard hat. Forest fire? Yeah, you just try to burn that carbon tax form. C’mon try.

    See what I mean? A carbon tax form will be the most durable thing on the face of this Earth. Possibly in the whole damn galaxy. You won’t be able to drown it, bury it, beat it, burn it, destroy it by any means whatsoever. Of course you won’t be able to transfer squat of that indestructible nature towards anything remotely resembling personal security.

    BTW: I worked damn hard to get to be a Senior Designer in the art department where I worked. I want to be called Senior Designer TomJ from now on.

  81. Climate change hysteria is the best example of group psychosis, but on a global scale.

  82. WELL SAID, Anthony! I am a former Ohio boy, and I remember the 1974 tornado that hit Xenia, Ohio, it really did a job on the city. Extreme weather my foot!

  83. “That tornado formed just a few miles south of my home… .” [Wayne at 1:38PM]

    Glad you are okay, Wayne. Hope you have a place to take shelter if, strike that, when another tornado comes. Take care.

    ***************************************
    Tom Moriarty, thank you for sharing a painful memory with us. Thank you for reminding me that what matters most is people.

    The AGW profiteers and high priests care about: #1 Money — #2 Power/prestige.

    The Truth in Science (therefore, anti-AGW) coalition cares about: people.

  84. Reblogged this on Public Secrets and commented:
    “Stunning ignorance” and “Barbara Boxer” are, of course, redundant. She really is dumber than a box of rocks. And what an embarrassment for California… that we keep inflicting on ourselves. :/

  85. Dear Manfred,

    I understood you. Keep on posting!

    Janice
    ************************************************************
    Okay, you got it!: Mr. Thomas J., Senior Designer, sir! #[:)]

  86. In 1925 the Tri-state tornado clobbered Missouri, Illinois and Indiana. 3.5 hours on the ground, 219 mile long path,over a mile wide at its’ largest, nearly 700 dead. The Weather Channel has it listed in its’ top ten of all time storms. Let’s hope CO2 doesn’t drop to the 1925 level again.

  87. Good grief!

    The BBC News (22:09) have just broadcast this in their main news programme.

    There is no increase in the number of tornados: just more people living in the areas affected.

    Times, they are a changin’

  88. [Boxer] also plugged her own bill, cosponsored with Sen. Bernie Sanders that would put a tax on carbon. “Carbon could cost us the planet,” she said. “The least we could do is put a little charge on it so people move to clean energy.”

    Sorry Babs but the US already has.

    Last year, CO2 emissions in the US fell to an 18-year low, the lowest level since 1994, and C02 emissions from coal fell to a 26-year low, the lowest since 1986. … Compared to the last time that CO2 emissions were at 2012′s levels — back in 1994 — real GDP in 2012 was 55% higher and the US population was 17.5% larger, making the drop in greenhouse gas emissions to an 18-year low in 2012 even more impressive. Adjusted for the population, CO2 emissions per capita last year were the lowest since 1964, almost 50 years ago

    http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/04/energy-fact-of-the-day-us-co2-emissions-per-capita-in-2012-were-the-lowest-since-1964-main-reason-shale-gas/

    All without passing your little tax, but you cannot spend that. The US is not participating in the recent rise to 400 ppm.

  89. Mark Bofill says:
    May 21, 2013 at 2:16 pm
    Well, Trenberth was glad to support this crap:

    http://news.yahoo.com/role-does-climate-change-play-tornadoes-163100822.html

    Can’t say I’m particularly surprised.
    =====================

    That silly old doofus doesn’t know if he’s having a shit or a haircut !!!

    Your dumb-ass models say the heat is hiding in the deep ocean Kevin you two-faced prat. Did it sneak out to kill some children just so you could gloat about being right – you A-hole.

  90. What a bunch of clueless ignoramuses. Of course, their anti-science balderdash is not surprising. After all, what does one expect from left-wing statists. They aren’t very smart to begin with.

    The global warming alarmists appear more asinine (and desperate) with each passing day. Only a few AGW True Believers take them seriously any more.

  91. I submitted the following related comment to the Tom Nelson site, just a few minutes ago:

    These are activists in a political, ideological cause, not a scientific one. They accept the false climate consensus as given, as have all of the supposedly authoritative institutions I hasten to add, and the political war that has been going on increasingly between Left and Right for decades, has effectively driven them insane. They understand the political “debate”; what they cannot begin to understand, it seems, is that two generations of incompetent climate science have failed all of us, and that is what is behind the “conspiracy of denial” they imagine they are seeing now. Put another way, they were effectively kidnapped by bad science many years ago, and made to identify with their kidnappers, and do their bidding. They have made themselves the victims so many of them believe themselves to be, but the force that bedevils them is their own cult, not the “skeptics” and “deniers” of the false science.

  92. I have lived in Texas most of my 67 years, which I daresay Ms. Boxer has not. Climate change, my patooty. This is what this part of the country looks like. Every year that I can remember, Spring has been marked by the onslaught of violent weather, and it hasn’t changed a bit.

  93. Politicians have to be the stupidest people the world, and the people that believe the crap the ones like Boxer spew, aren’t far behind. They make it sound like we never had weather before global warming!

  94. Chris4692 says:
    May 21, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    thanks for the response. my main query is whether your insurers are as bad as ours in ‘moving the goalposts’ on policies as soon as a claim comes in! (whether there is any statistical likelihood of a repeat event or not!).

  95. Does this mean that global warming is reducing the frequency and strength of tornadoes by combating global cooling? The chart you have seems to suggest this.

  96. So we already have cap and trade in this dying state we call California, yet this ninny still wants to pass her own carbon tax on top of it? Brilliant.

  97. Well.. if California attacks my bottom line with their left wing weather tax I will attack their bottom line by canceling my TV cable subscription.. Media and the very worst type of politics is the only thing they export.. Starve the media will also starve the politics.. No money, no power..

  98. “how could you have changed the outcome yesterday?”
    A tax would take money away from individuals and reduced their ability to prepare for potential disasters which in turn would lead to more injuries/deaths. Meanwhile, more gov’t “friends” could have received funding for non economically viable “green” jobs in politically sensitive jurisdictions. That’s how they could have changed the outcomes

  99. It’s it their red/green propaganda handbook. Don’t let a good climate crisis go to waste!!

  100. Excuse me Ma’am, but did you say snow in the summer? Well that changes everything. Can I get me one of those Obama-snow-blowers?

  101. “Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars’ worth of damage in thirteen states,” Gwynne wrote.”

    Without putting too fine a point on it, Gwynne may not have been hopelessly wrong. The record of major tornado frequency does seen to indicate more in cooler times. His hysteria was the belief that it was going to continue getting colder, just like the alarmists of today who believed it would get ever warmer. It would be interesting to review the news following 1974 alarm to see how they rationalized the onset of warming and how long they hung onto their fantasies. I suppose the big story here is how stupid people like Boxer (and Obama) are to swallow up the rationalizations, twists and turns of the CAGW set in the face of 17 years of no warming. I think schools need a major retuning of curriculum, retraining of teachers and a policy of excellence. The so-called “dumbing down” of several decades ago is putting its product into the government.

  102. Boycott California, cancel your TV subscription.. They will replace / retire the present crop of idiots with a new bunch faster than you can download a pirate movie :)..

    Its their only weakness.. I suggest we exploit it..

  103. Since we are talking about correlation instant of causation, I could make the argument that up stream wind mill farms disturbs the air current enough to cause more tornadoes and is the fault of Progressive Socialist for pushing “clean energy”.
    And, I bet, I could back up my claim with a computer model.

  104. The only thing that is true is every western government is flat broke and deeply in debt..
    The leftists cant cut and win elections because big government and handouts is how they win elections.. So their political survival absolutely depends on generating new revenue streams..

    They may act like idiots but they are not.. Their short term political future depends on getting their hands on what little money you have left after our traditional tax burden.. The entire leftist ecosystem expects to be rewarded with raises, promotions and indexed pensions..

    This is why non existent global warming and all of its side show spin offs refuse to die..
    Follow the money, right into their pockets..

    What else do you think they plan on doing with this stolen money?

  105. Helps prove what I’ve always said: You don’t need any brain cells to be a successful politician.

  106. Eve Stevens says:
    May 21, 2013 at 11:15 am
    Senator Whitehouse is upset because people will be asking the government for money. News for Senator Whitehouse – It is their money, All the money the government has, has been taken from the people!
    ——————————————————————–
    Well, not quite Eve.
    You see all of the money people get from the government will need to be taken from other people. But worse is in today’s economy the money doesn’t come from taxpayers at all, it is borrowed from other countries with interest or our government just prints more dollars and causes more inflation which devalues all currently circulating dollars.
    So you see it’s not as you say “their money.” Congress has to borrow it first.
    Our government really has no money.
    It’s not that the government is broke, it never had the money…..
    congress just spends like it does.
    cn

  107. 1228 inundations of rivers in Dec Jan and Feb –in Worcester- such that no one then living had ever seen the like in their time

    1236 great floods in Jan, Feb and part of March that no one had seen the like before.

    1241 drought from March 25 to Oct 28 drought and intolerable heat. Pastures withered, herds pined away from hunger and thirst
    December very cold and bitter weather the like of which no one had seen before, binding the rivers killing large numbers of birds

    I’m sure they asked everyone, right? I mean, they wouldn’t write it if they hadn’t, right? Or was it a lot of hyperbole?

    Maybe Johnathan Cooke set up a poll on ye olde Intrenet asking if there was a consensus about anyone seeing anything like this before?

    Looks like alarmism has always been alive and well.

  108. When the President calls a special session of Congress, members of the Senate and House are notified by letter, e-mail, and phone. To get Barbara Boxer’s attention, the President stands on the White House lawn and yells SOOOOOOOOOOOOOEY.

  109. Acting on CAGW as it has ben set up by UNFCCC(UNEP and WWF etc) who benefits and what is the benefit?
    International Marxism ?

  110. Reed Coray says:
    May 21, 2013 at 11:14 am
    “…
    The most accurate description of Babs I’ve heard is that she’s the only person alive that makes Senator Feinstein and governor Moonbeam look good.”

    Let’s not overlook that other paragon of California’s intelligentsia, Congresswoman Capps; she fits right in with the two Senators and governor.

  111. Boxer’s beyond “stunning ignorance.” She exhibits the full intellectual vacancy, dishonesty and cowardice — as well as the moral bankruptcy, social divisiveness, psychological bent and party-above-all-things — that the politicized “scientists,” full practitioners of “Cargo Cult Science,” have done, are doing and will do in their rejection of the scientific method and jettisoning of any apparent common sense.

    They’re intellectual and moral behavior is vulgar and damaging — and, yes, a security threat to our country and the world.

  112. Here in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills, we can’t afford to fix the roads any more, so we have to drive SUVs … or just fly wherever we need to go.

    No really, no Sarc tag !!!

  113. RE: Randy says:
    May 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    That tri-state tornado of 1925 is a good one to study up on.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri-State_Tornado

    When Alarmists start to babble stuff about “worst ever,” it helps if you’ve done your homework, and can calmly hit them with some history.

    RE: climatereason says:
    May 21, 2013 at 10:53 am
    Jeff Alberts made me chuckle, when he teased you about Alarmism being alive and well back in the year 1241, but I really appreciate you gathering that historical data. To me it sounds like a rough time to live through, as cooling set in after the Medieval Warm Period.

    There does seem to be evidence we go through a time of what Joe Bastardi dubbed “climatic hardship” as weather cycles move from warm to cold. For example, as the heat of the Dust Bowl times gave way to the chill of the 1970’s, (when there was the alarm about an “ice age” returning,) there was a spike in the number of hurricanes up the east coast, and also in tornadoes.

    Because the PDO has turned cold, and the AMO is likely to swing cold in the next 5-10 years, we “might” (hate that word) see a repeat of east coast hurricanes and F-5 tornadoes, in which case the political hyenas and vultures like Babbling Boxer will gather, drooling.

    Hit ‘em with the history.

  114. Wouldn’t it make more sense to build safety bunkers in tornado alley? Then people could stay safe regardless of the cause of the tornado? Otherwise people will bake themselves half to death in the summer and chill half to death in the winter because of a carbon tax and still find themselves wiped out by a tornado caused by Mother Nature all by herself.

  115. I have no argument with the viewpoint that B Boxer is stupid, balanced perhaps by M Bachman from the other ‘side’.

    But is there anyone here who can credibly claim that recent climate change, increased land and surface temps, increased humidity, changes in jet stream path etc had absolutely NO effect on the incidence and severity of tornados?

    There seems to be some evidence that AGW has reduced incidence, but perhaps like hurricanes the fewer events are more severe?

  116. Newsweek science editor Peter Gwynne warned of tornadoes as a consequence of “global cooling,”

    That sounds like the plot of “The Sixth Winter”.

  117. izen says:
    May 22, 2013 at 4:07 am

    But is there anyone here who can credibly claim that recent climate change, increased land and surface temps, increased humidity, changes in jet stream path etc had absolutely NO effect on the incidence and severity of tornados?

    There seems to be some evidence that AGW has reduced incidence, but perhaps like hurricanes the fewer events are more severe?
    —————————–
    Go do a study on it Izen. Stuff like ‘perhaps .. the fewer events are more severe’ is speculative crap. Perhaps they’re less severe. We can speculate all day long, it doesn’t go anywhere. Unless the goal is PR instead of science.

  118. @- Mark Bofill
    “Unless the goal is PR instead of science.”

    Rejecting the obvious fact that there is clearly some type of teleconnection between climate and tornado magnitude and incidence is definitely PR instead of science.

  119. There may well be some physical connection between climate, ie weather averaged over thirty years, and tornado frequency and strength. On shorter time frames, oceanic oscillations like ENSO, the PDO and AMO also may affect tornado characteristics. The human component in the effect of natural climatic cycles on tornado traits is however trivial.

    Central Oklahoma and northern Texas remain the meanest corners of Tornado Alley. However, a spring tornado in 1917 traveled 5about 350 miles across Illinois and Indiana, lasting well over seven hours. Here are the ten deadliest tornado events in the United States (of course additional factors besides strength determine the fatality toll, but population has also grown a lot since 1840):

    Date; Location; Deaths

    March 18, 1925; Missouri, Illinois, Indiana; 689

    May 6, 1840; Natchez, Mississippi; 317

    May 27, 1896; St. Louis, Missouri; 255

    April 5, 1936; Tupelo, Mississippi; 216

    April 6, 1936; Gainesville, Georgia; 203

    April 9, 1947; Woodward, Oklahoma; 181

    April 24, 1908; Amite, Louisiana and Purvis, Mississippi; 143

    June 12, 1899; New Richmond, Wisconsin; 117

    June 8, 1953; Flint, Michigan; 115

    May 11, 1953; Waco, Texas; 114

    Clusters are apparent, suggesting cyclicality not apparent in frequency data, but that record is skewed by lack of reliability and full coverage in earlier decades. In any case, evidence of a human signal is also lacking, except of course from improved warning and possibly construction.

  120. To izen:

    Re-read the top of the post. Violent tornadoes have been lessening. As to
    the cooling starting to breed more violent ones, I’m going to quote you right
    back at yourself: “It takes more than {3,5,10,12,15,take your pick}
    years to make a trend.”–izen, on many occasions.

  121. Sadly Queen Barbara keeps being re-elected by the “majority” of my state. She will say anything to get her way much like many of her cohorts.

    ~Steph

  122. All, please get the name of the Golden State correct, it’s not California, it is the People’s Republic of California.

    The few conservative left in the state are indeed ashamed of our representation, but when you have people like Maxine Waters representing your district, getting them out is harder than getting water out of a rock. For over 20 years I have tried to vote her out – but, alas, I am the 1% not on the dole.

  123. Izen, if you have a brain I’d suggest using it … it has been a cool spring in the plains all the way into Canada. The Gulf is below average in SST. Exactly where would global warming have influenced the storm systems? Or, maybe you meant the storms were less severe than they might have been otherwise.

  124. It is not possible to “educate” our dear “Babs” Boxer. Been dumber than a fence post as long as I’ve known of her (I live out here and been subject to her profound level of stupid for decades…).

    Like our other local dead wood heads, including our present Governor Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown, they have no connection to reality nor to data. They are driven 100% by appeals to emotion.and any B.S. that “sounds good” via being aligned with whatever is held to be “appropriate” by folks who set The Agenda of the far Looney Side Of Left. (As opposed to the more middle-of-the-road left…) Given a choice between thinking that absolute proof of something as natural was the cause of “Some Bad Thing” and making political hay out of embracing the most incredibly ignorant and physically impossible causalities, they will embrace “stupid but feels good” every time.

    Which is truly odd, since “feels good” usually depends on an assertion of humanity as evil and feeling terrible about being a living human being…. and has a certain hostility toward life in general and a tendency to brooding depressive mind set. Then again, Those Folks don’t ever ever let logical consistency enter what passes for a brain…

    But as long as they keep the abortion mills open, the drug laws loosely enforced, and the money flowing to the dependent class, while denigrating the people who make the society function and provide all the goods and services they all lap up to great excess (compared to their productivity); they will keep on getting elected… and that seems to be the only thing they know.

    “California, the land of Fruits and Nuts!”… Same motto as during our agricultural past… but with a bit different “spin” now…

  125. izen says:
    May 22, 2013 at 8:21 am
    “Rejecting the obvious fact that there is clearly some type of teleconnection between climate and tornado magnitude”

    “Some type of teleconnection”, that’s good. I like that. Can we have that in the IPCC report? Maybe in the summary for policymakers? Please.

  126. Boxer has no idea of what EXTREME weather really is:

    “Abrupt Climate Change – Inevitable Surprises”, Committee on Abrupt Climate Change, National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences, 2002, ISBN: 0-309-51284-0, 244 pages, Richard B. Alley, chair:

    Recent scientific evidence shows that major and widespread climate changes have occurred with startling speed. For example, roughly half the north Atlantic warming since the last ice age was achieved in only a decade, and it was accompanied by significant climatic changes across most of the globe. Similar events, including local warmings as large as 16°C, occurred repeatedly during the slide into and climb out of the last ice age….

    http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309074347

    In his book, The Two-Mile Time Machine: Ice Cores, Abrupt Climate Change, and Our Future Richard Alley, one of the world’s leading climate researchers, tells the fascinating history of global climate changes as revealed by reading the annual rings of ice from cores drilled in Greenland. In the 1990s he and his colleagues made headlines with the discovery that the last ice age came to an abrupt end over a period of only three years….

    A change of 16°C WITHIN A DECADE as the solar insolation nears the tipping point between glacial and interglacial conditions is what I define as EXTREME. A switch from glacial to interglacial within three years is what I define as EXTREME.

    Our climate has been very stable and we should be thanking water vapor and CO2 for keeping it that way.

    The real debate seems to be:
    1. Is glacial inception “…a sharp threshold, which must be near 416 Wm2…” or at the “… weak summer insolation minimum (474Wm−2)…” with “… today’s value of 428 Wm2…” and “…the onset of significant bipolar-seesaw”

    2. Even if the earth stays above the threshold for glacial inception how stable is the climate near that threshold?

    ….the June 21 insolation minimum at 65N during MIS 11 is only 489 W/m2, much less pronounced than the present minimum of 474 W/m2. In addition, current insolation values are not predicted to return to the high values of late MIS 11 for another 65 kyr. We propose that this effectively precludes a ‘double precession-cycle’ interglacial [e.g., Raymo, 1997] in the Holocene without human influence….

    http://lorraine-lisiecki.com/LisieckiRaymo2005.pdf

    ….The onset of the LEAP occurred within less than two decades, demonstrating the existence of a sharp threshold, which must be near 416 Wm2, which is the 65oN July insolation for 118 kyr BP (ref. 9). This value is only slightly below today’s value of 428 Wm2. Insolation will remain at this level slightly above the glacial inception for the next 4,000 years before it then increases again…..
    http://www.particle-analysis.info/LEAP_Nature__Sirocko+Seelos.pdf

    LEAP = A late Eemian aridity pulse in central Europe during the last glacial inception.

    Abstract

    Investigating the processes that led to the end of the last interglacial period is relevant for understanding how our ongoing interglacial will end, which has been a matter of much debate … Here we present an annually resolved, layer-counted record of varve thickness, quartz grain size and pollen assemblages from a maar lake in the Eifel (Germany), which documents a late Eemian aridity pulse lasting 468 years with dust storms, aridity, bushfire and a decline of thermophilous trees at the time of glacial inception. We interpret the decrease in both precipitation and temperature as an indication of a close link of this extreme climate event to a sudden southward shift of the position of the North Atlantic drift, the ocean current that brings warm surface waters to the northern European region. The late Eemian aridity pulse occurred at a 65 degrees N July insolation of 416 W m(-2), close to today’s value of 428 W m(-2) (ref. 9), and may therefore be relevant for the interpretation of present-day climate variability.

    A newer paper from last fall disagrees:

    Thus, glacial inception occurred ~3 kyr before the onset of significant bipolar-seesaw variability… [bipolar-seesaw = Arctic ice decreasing while Antarctic Ice increases. GC]

    …Given the large decrease in summer insolation over the Last Interglacial as a result of the strong eccentricity-precession forcing, we suggest that the value of 3 kyr may be treated as a minimum. We thus estimate interglacial duration as the interval between the terminal occurrence of bipolar-seesaw variability and 3 kyr before its first major reactivation….

    Comparison [of the Holocene] with MIS 19c, a close astronomical analogue characterized by an equally weak summer insolation minimum (474Wm−2) and a smaller overall decrease from maximum summer solstice insolation values, suggests that glacial inception is possible despite the subdued insolation forcing, if CO2 concentrations were 240±5 ppmv ….
    Can we predict the duration of an interglacial? (Tzedakis et al., 2012)

    Lesson from the past: present insolation minimum holds potential for glacial inception (2007)

    ….Because the intensities of the 397 ka BP and present insolation minima are very similar, we conclude that under natural boundary conditions the present insolation minimum holds the potential to terminate the Holocene interglacial. Our findings support the Ruddiman hypothesis [Ruddiman, W., 2003. The Anthropogenic Greenhouse Era began thousands of years ago. Climate Change 61, 261–293], which proposes that early anthropogenic greenhouse gas emission prevented the inception of a glacial that would otherwise already have started….

    Since Warmist love models here is another paper using models. (rolls eyes)

    Transient simulation of the last glacial inception. Part II: sensitivity
    and feedback analysis

    Abstract
    The sensitivity of the last glacial-inception (around 115 kyr BP, 115,000 years before present) to different feedback mechanisms has been analysed by using the Earth system model of intermediate complexity… We performed a set of transient experiments starting at the middle of the Eemiam interglacial and ran the model for 26,000 years with time-dependent orbital forcing and observed changes in atmospheric CO2 concentration (CO2 forcing). The role of vegetation and ocean feedback, CO2 forcing, mineral dust, thermohaline circulation and orbital insolation were closely investigated. In our model, glacial inception, as a bifurcation in the climate system, appears in nearly all sensitivity runs including a run with constant atmospheric CO2 concentration of 280 ppmv, a typical interglacial value, and simulations with prescribed present-day sea-surface temperatures or vegetation cover—although the rate of the growth of ice-sheets growth is smaller than in the case of the fully interactive model. Only if we run the fully interactive model with constant present-day insolation and apply present-day CO2 forcing does no glacial inception appear at all. This implies that, within our model, the orbital forcing alone is sufficient to trigger the interglacial–glacial transition, while vegetation, ocean and atmospheric CO2 concentration only provide additional, although important, positive feedbacks. In addition, we found that possible reorganisations of the thermohaline circulation influence the distribution of inland ice….

    Discussion

    ….In particular, Porter (2001) reports an increased mineral dust concentration in the Northwestern Pacific during glacial inception, which supports our approach. Our model does not account for the radiative effect of dust (Claquin et al. 2003)….

    In our model, glacial inception is triggered by a decrease in boreal summer insolation. Once a critical threshold is crossed, the snow-albedo feedback pushes the system from a interglacial to a glacial state (Calov et al. 2005)….

    With this as the real area of debate Warmists are complaining that the weather is warm???

  127. @John from the EU –
    I don’t think it is possible to educate ideologues who won’t listen to anything but their own Nazibabble. You can show them all the facts in the world and they will just ignore you.
    Somehow, we need to get the word out to the lower-income people who are being screwed over the most by the policies advocated by nematodes like Boxer and Whitehouse and get them removed from office.

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