Lucia drops some reality on the Gorebots – Update: The astroturfing is from Skeptical Science

UPDATE: Apparently, they didn’t like Lucia’s version of reality, she writes:

They suspended my account. And I wanted #1 on the leader board. Dang!!

UPDATE2: Apparently this is an Astroturfing project by the Kidz at “Skeptical Science”:

The Money Quote from http://climaterealityproject.org/press/ (see Feb 28th release):

Developed through a collaboration with the website Skeptical Science, Reality Drop curates hundreds of online news articles daily for articles that demand a response—whether it’s a misleading quote from a climate denier or a heated debate raging in the comments section.

So, it seems John Cook is not only in the conspiracy theory business, but also now in the comment spamming business for websites worldwide. Not only that, but it appears they were trying to involve the Met Office through a “Special Thanks” statement, though the Met Office says they’d never heard of it. Barry Woods says in comments at Lucia’s:

I asked Met Office’s Chief Press officer about it, (Dave Britton) he rang me back and said he had not heard of it, they are not officially involved in it, and he will be enquiring why they get a special thanks for their supposed ‘contribution’.

I have an email into John Cook asking him how much Al Gore paid him to make this Astroturfing software. I’ve been given a number by somebody who should be in the know, but I want to confirm with Cook. [Update: Cook responded that he was not paid anything and that the content he provided was given for free under a Creative Commons license. When I pointed out that his website has a Copyright John Cook 2013 on the bottom of each SkS webpage, he stated that he’ll make a change to the entire website. – Anthony]

UPDATE3: For anyone with websites, the simplest way to block these auto-bot SPAM faux comments from Al Gore and John Cook is to put “clmtr.lt” as a blocked web address in your system SPAM filter. I’ve done that for WUWT and recommend all other climate blogs do the same. These aren’t comments from real people, they are bot-generated, so there’s no moral issue with automatically sending them to the bit bucket IMHO.

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I had been given some insight into Al Gore’s relaunched “Reality Drop” this weekend and planned to write an additional article beyond the initial chuckle here: Al Gore’s Reality Drop – Climate Change to Destroy Music? where one of the promoters is laughably worried that global warming will unleash some sort of Don Maclean-Al Goreian music killing vortex, and we’ll see a global Day the Music Died. No pie for you!

Apparently the first Reality Drop campaign was such a major dud that Gore personally had to “re-release” it last week on February 28th:

Lucia at The Blackboard, ever curious, decided to try it out.

Hilarity ensued, and there’s no way I can improve upon what she has already done, so I direct WUWT’s readers to: http://rankexploits.com/musings/2013/reality-drop/

She notes:

Wanting to see the raging comment wars between “denialists” and “reality comment droppers”, I scanned for comments. The article does not support comments. At. All.

Major fail.

Heh.

I note that Gore has still kept his fake Bill Nye narrated Climate 101 video front and center, which I recreated and factually demonstrated to be so fraudulent in premise that they had to fake the results in post production because the experiments couldn’t ever possibly work as demonstrated.

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Yet, they keep pushing that version of their distorted reality. There’s no shame with Mr. Gore it seems as long as it brings in money, anything goes.

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Henry
March 5, 2013 11:23 am

One has to wonder what self-respecting warmists honestly think of Reality Drop. Seems like it would be an embarrassment at the very least. Gore has no shame whatsoever.

Gary
March 5, 2013 11:24 am

Al has dropped reality so many times it’s undeniably broken by now.

March 5, 2013 11:28 am

Mind numbed robots. If you think, do not apply.

cui bono
March 5, 2013 11:31 am

Endless fun! Confuse people with:
“2005 was hotter than 1998, and the ten hottest years on record have occurred in the last 15 years. http://alturl.com/ragco “.
The link is quite…recursive.

March 5, 2013 11:35 am

Here are more comment/link combinations. I got them off the “hot topic”

Ask any climate scientist: Man-made carbon pollution is the cause of the global warming we’re seeing now. http://clmtr.lt/cb/pwX0OD

2005 was hotter than 1998, and the ten hottest years on record have occurred in the last 15 years. http://clmtr.lt/cb/pFw

is suggested for “Obama’s Pick For EPA Head The Most Likely To Cause Controversy”

Barrel for barrel, tar sands oil is even worse for the climate than conventional oil. http://clmtr.lt/cb/pE9

They suggest

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/03/passover-approaching-plague-locusts-descends-upon-egypt/62712/

for
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/03/passover-approaching-plague-locusts-descends-upon-egypt/62712/
The level of relevancy is pretty funny. Also, people are allowed to vote on whether the “myth” is a “myth” and whether the quote and link are relevant to the post. I suspect they intend that everyone will give an accurate assessement on relevancy. Can’t see what could go wrong with that. . .

March 5, 2013 11:45 am

They suspended my account. And I wanted #1 on the leader board. Dang!!

March 5, 2013 11:50 am

Lame.
The struggle is to maintain the morale of the troops, not to increase the size of the army. The attacks by the warmists on the MSM, Obama and others for being anti-climate are interesting: these are supposed to be on their side by the skeptics. So who are the warmist supporters by the warmist position? If you define the warmist friends by those they don’t attack, there would seem to be very few of them.
The governments of many nations, unfortunately, have so little talent in budgeting that they need to increase government revenue in a way that does not make it appear to be incompetence following inability. That’s where the carbon taxes come in: we don’t do this because we want to, but because we HAVE to. And for that story to fly, there has to be a threat of CAGW.
Regardless of political or scientific belief, the governments have an interest in pushing the CAGW story. Not in doing anything constructive about reducing carbon emissions, but in a story that justifies increased taxation.

Mark Bofill
March 5, 2013 11:54 am

This is great fun. Spamming sites like Mother Jones with mindless comments, getting points for it, and seeing how close I can walk the line to outright mockery in my segues.
Don’t click on that Lucia Liljegren’s persons links, she-uh gotz no warmy-green cred! Follow philfree’s C.R.A.P. drops instead! Droppin’ reality like a dead head drops acid!
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/forward-on-climate-change-protests

Brezent
March 5, 2013 12:11 pm

I thought Gore sold all his green investments. What’s his angle now?

DR. Bob
March 5, 2013 12:11 pm

I had to laugh at the comment someone that someone made that oil sands were 86% worse in terms of GHG emissions than conventional oil. That is about what they said about coal. Having worked in this area for 14 years, I have studied the GHG emissions for numerous fuel production pathways. Literature generally agrees that the additional production energy and process energy for oil sands add 20% more CO2 emissions to that pathway. Argonne NL, NREL, and MIT sources for this if you are interested. The really bad fuels though are those derived from palm oil. Some palm plantations carved out of rainforests can have GHG emissions 8X those of conventional fuels. So the environmentalists can be their own worst enemy.
And with wind and solar energy also causing more harm than good, when are people going to realize that you have to have control on these activities if you want to not harm the environment more than with alternatives than with fossil fuels and energy.

Robert of Ottawa
March 5, 2013 12:14 pm

Read Lucia’s page on this; if you have the energy, help her become the Master of Reality, or whatever.
Al Gore is engaging in a modern propaganda effort employing all media, including Bot-on-Bot action. It’s quite stunning how, despite the most intensive and well funded propaganda campaign since a certain H. Dooorbells, the Warmistas just can’t seem to get it done.
But, remember they have already scammed hundreds of billions, so their program is successful in one way.

Mark Bofill
March 5, 2013 12:19 pm

lucia liljegren (@lucialiljegren) says:
March 5, 2013 at 11:45 am
They suspended my account. And I wanted #1 on the leader board. Dang!!
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Ooohoohooh!! They haven’t got me yet apparently, it’s my chance to steal a march on Lucia!
Support philfree27’s C.R.P. dumps! Click here, find the comment, and click the link!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/mar/05/us-russia-unite-polar-bear?commentpage=1

Rujholla
March 5, 2013 12:19 pm

Do we do the cause of open scientific research any good by stooping to their level and trying to game an admittedly idiotic system?

Old England
March 5, 2013 12:22 pm

What absolute rubbish this “drop reality” site is.
If anyone wants to try it out you can try the username and password I just registered:
User rabidgreenie
password greenrabbit

Mark Bofill
March 5, 2013 12:27 pm

Rujholla says:
March 5, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Do we do the cause of open scientific research any good by stooping to their level and trying to game an admittedly idiotic system?
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Aw, I don’t look at it like that. It’s supposed to be a game, isn’t it? I admit, it’s juvenile for me to take such glee in it, sure. If I can’t laugh at stuff like this I’d go insane. I mean, worse than I already am. 🙂

Editor
March 5, 2013 12:39 pm

Ah!! Bill Nye!
He clearly understands the subject.
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/which-facts-does-piers-not-understand/
And then of course the real meteorologists tore his explanation about blizzards to bits.
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2013/02/11/bill-nye-shown-to-be-clueless-again/
You might be able to fool the kids, Mr Science Guy, but it shows the weakness of the Warmists arguments these days when they have to wheel you out on the Piers Moron show.

Rhoda R
March 5, 2013 12:43 pm

” Rujholla says:
March 5, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Do we do the cause of open scientific research any good by stooping to their level and trying to game an admittedly idiotic system?”
Oh yes! Gore’s latest lunacy has NOTHING to do with scientific research.

Skiphil
March 5, 2013 12:47 pm

Reality Droppings
An exiting new conception of information sharing!
Mama Bird Gore is busy reGORgitating ill digested chunks to the nest full of fragile baby birds…. Who learn to fly off to bombard the webscape with ther messy bird droppings.

Greg
March 5, 2013 12:50 pm

Gore’s grasp on reality is already at rock bottom, why does he keep trying to make it go lower?
Oh, Bill Nye , the science lye. That vid. was a beauty.

clipe
March 5, 2013 12:59 pm
March 5, 2013 1:06 pm

lucia liljegren (@lucialiljegren) says: March 5, 2013 at 11:45 am “They suspended my account.”
Predictable, those Gorebots are. But we wonder how much more of that it takes before one of them loses all faith in their system and marches over to FoxNews or TheDailyCaller or WUWT and spills the beans on the amount of reality they were directed to suspend in order to keep Gore’s efforts afloat.
You’d think that they would have at least erased the material on their Twitter page https://twitter.com/RealityDrop/ prior to Feb 28 before announcing their “exciting new tool”, lest anyone obviously see it was not new at all.

Jim Kress
Editor
March 5, 2013 1:16 pm

Dr. Bob
Did you take into account the fact that burining hydrocarbons produces H2O which is vastly more efficient at absorbing IR radition? But, since there is so much H2O in the atmosphere already that the increase is just damped out. Thus the entire effect of burning hydrocarbons on climate = zero. The only possible bad actor is coal since it has so little hydrogen associated with it.

mikemUK
March 5, 2013 1:22 pm

I’d like to have read Lucia’s take on it too, but sadly I am being blocked again from her site; it has happened several times over the last two years or so, for no reason that I can imagine, so have removed her site from my bookmarks.

alan neil ditchfield
March 5, 2013 1:24 pm

ALIENISTA: recommended reading for environmental alarmists
Speculative thought, not shored up by experimental evidence, is not science. Policy should never be based on it.
The history of the 20th century shows the mischief that comes from public policy based on pseudo-science. Examples are: the geopolitics that explained a German March to the East as a natural Darwinian process; the eugenics of Nazis; the Marxist planned economy that misruled Russia for seven decades. Brazilians have a saying that intellectuals would have exterminated mankind, were it not for a ballast of common sense possessed by ordinary folk.
This feeling is illustrated in a parody, Alienista, written long ago by Machado de Assis, the greatest of Brazilian writers. Mistaken policy takes course in Itaguai, an obscure community, 75 km west of Rio de Janeiro, where a renowned medical doctor has a practice. Devoted to medical research, he becomes interested in psychology, a popular topic at a time (1880s) when German researchers (Wundt et al) claimed to have based it on empirical evidence, as an exact science. The doctor persuades city hall to support an asylum for the insane. It would lock up dangerous people and would treat mental disorders of others; the doctor would gain guinea pigs for his experiments in the worthy cause of the advancement of science. Over time, a great number of citizens get interned on doctor´s orders, but the authorities do nothing. Scientific judgment should not be questioned by laymen. A rebellion led by a barber is crushed. The doctor changes his mind and discharges all patients. His new doctrine holds that most people have some degree of insanity, a condition that should be rated as normal; the perfectly sane are the abnormal ones who should be interned. Again, the authorities do nothing; politics should not trump science. In the end, the doctor frees all patients, declares himself the only sane man in town, and becomes the sole dweller of the asylum. The vicar was right; he had always noted that the doctor was the only madman in the parish.

clipe
March 5, 2013 1:24 pm

From the link I posted earlier
But while temperatures would have been far more forgiving on Ellesmere Island island in the mid-Pliocene, the region’s high latitude means that the camels, along with other plants and animals, would have had to have endured nearly six months of darkness each year through the winter months.
Caribou move. Why not “other plants and animals”?