Climate Craziness of the Week: The Weather Channel on crack

No, really, they must have been on crack when they came up with this one. I have no other explanation that works.

First a primer. What is “Space Weather”?  Wikipedia (agreed not the best source but humor me, at least they understand the basics) says that it is:

Space weather is the concept of changing environmental conditions in near-Earth space or the space from the Sun’s atmosphere to the Earth’s atmosphere. It is distinct from the concept of weather within the Earth’s planetary atmosphere (troposphere and stratosphere).

You can see what that’s all about at NASA’s spaceweather.com

Note the “distinct from the concept of weather”.

Now, try to wrap your mind around that and this image below and figure out how they managed to get space weather to burn down the Empire State Building.

Yes that’s right, Space Weather. They ask the question “Ever thought about what would happen if Earth’s temperature reached 900 degrees like on Venus? Chances are it won’t be a good day! Buildings are reduced to dust in moments! Watch Deadliest Space Weather only on The Weather Channel, Thursdays at 9″

TWC_space_weather

When I first saw this, I thought to myself “this has to be some sort of spoof“. Sadly, no. Here it is on TWC’s website:

http://www.weather.com/tv/tvshows/deadliest-space-weather/video/deadliest-space-weather-hotter-than-hot-33288

But wait, there’s more! Space Weather causes acid rain and two-eyed cyclones too!

TWC_space_weather_more

The descriptions:

- A bad day on Earth is nothing compared to a day on Venus! Winds create a massive cyclone with two eyes and rain that turns life forms into a pillar of carbon! Find out more on Deadliest Space Weather, only on The Weather Channel, Thursdays at 9pm!

- Imagine acid rain that can eat through solid steel! This isn’t the plot of a Hollywood disaster movie, it’s weather happening now in our solar system! See more extreme weather on Deadliest Space Weather, Thursdays at 9 on The Weather Channel!

Do they even hire science or meteorology majors at TWC anymore?

I’m just stunned. This has to be the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen.

UPDATE:

John Coleman says in comments:

January 3, 2013 at 4:19 pm

As founder of The Weather Channel I am deeply saddened by what has become of my life’s work. I poured everything I had at the prime of my life into creating a basic channel that was focused on a mission to provide accurate and complete weather information for their location and the rest of our nation within a few minutes to everyone who tuned in. As televsion whiz kids have replaced adults and dedicated meteorologists the channel has been reduced to a hodge podge of silliness. Nothing against the many fine people who work there. But, a curse upon their leaders.

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108 thoughts on “Climate Craziness of the Week: The Weather Channel on crack

  1. Arts majors.
    And no sub-editor at all.

    I worry about the magma – thousands of degrees – boiling the oceans – as that would mean my cod and chips will feature boiled fish – not fried!
    Catastrophe.
    And very un-English!
    [Right - Sarc, and Sars, off].

    Anthony – it looks like ‘crack’ might be right!

  2. The best part is I *just* saw an ad for this on television. It’s going to be a TV series! I do hope they do the one about “what would happen if space aliens attack us with their freeze ray”, and “what would happen if the earth simply disappeared.”

  3. OK, just to be clear; the website http://www.spaceweather.com isn’t run by NASA, doesn’t run kooky stuff like that, and is clearly focused on astronomy; the only thing Earth-related that they do is auroras, meteor showers, eclipse photos and the like. VERY informative and reasonable.

  4. This set appears to be focused on Venus. So the comparisons are what if we had Venusian conditions on Earth? I assume the series will move through the solar system and then perhaps to extra solar plants.

    Maybe it will conclude with a show on the “weather” at the event horizon of a black hole.

  5. If a large coronal mass ejection from the sun struck earth, what would be the result? In a case like that I would suspect both space weather and earth weather phenomena would be the result.

  6. Two eyes. Really? These people need to get out a little more often. Or at least use their computers for something besides running climate models.

  7. Unfortunately cataclysmic earth centered disasters seem to be the only way to get Americans interested in science. But some of them are fun.

  8. I prefer the more cerebral “Finding Bigfoot” on Animal Planet. The Weather Channel is smelling kind of “squatchy” lately!

  9. I would have thought that the aurora borealis would qualify as an excellent example of an earth weather and space ‘weather’ interaction? At least good for some more pretty photos….

  10. LOL. Well, technically in a few billion years, when our Sun goes Red Giant, I guess some of that will be true. But I doubt the Empire State building will be standing.

    To be accurate “space weather” is really the offshoot of Solar Activity like CME, etc. The term was developed to keep lay people from getting confused – guess that failed.

    Space Weather is best visualized as the Northern Lights – which is of course ions traveling down the EM paths to the poles.

    It has NOTHING to do with weather UNLESS you subscribe to the cosmic ray impact on cloud formation. Which of course is the theory which challenges C-AGW and CO2 driven climate/weather changes.

    So look at this way, at least the alarmists are now getting all alarmed over something probably more real than CO2/H20 forcing run amok.

  11. Are you sure it’s crack? Acid seems to be more appropriate. Regardless, I want some of their drugs. Fantasy land seems to be a lot more interesting than reality.

  12. Auto says:
    January 3, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Arts majors.
    And no sub-editor at all.

    I worry about the magma – thousands of degrees –

    Al Gore said it is millions of degrees dude – you are way off,… /sarc

  13. Well you just ensured their traffic peak of the year.
    I think someone over there got a certain type of mushroom for Christmas.
    Or is there really a cool-ade which causes cataclysmic weather disorder?

  14. What I want to know is, where can I buy a camera robust enough to take a picture of that quality at 900 degrees ? Seriously, you’d never know when you might fall into an erupting volcano and feel inclined to take some pictures for posterity whilst on the way down.

  15. John Coleman must be spinning in his grave. Oh wait – he’s not dead. Maybe he will wish he were when he sees what his programme has devolved into.

  16. I saw some photo panels over on Fox yesterday that were just as goofy. Claimed the next glacial wouldn’t start until 50,000 years from now. It started 5,000 year AGO.

  17. Oh my Gaia! They told us global warming was going to be hot. But, no, it’s gonna be even hotter than hot! [sarc/]

    It kind of reminds me of the way alien invasion movies became popular during the cold war. Whether they were simply tapping into genuine and justified fear within society or actively trying to whip up paranoia and hysteria is much debated. But at least they never purported to be anything other than fiction.

    This on the other hand …

  18. Like the series what would happen if people disappeared, lots of silly conjecture interspersed with occasional interesting observations. I can’t wait for their next series “what would happen if you used a hand grenade as a suppository”

    Larry

  19. Unfortunately, even the names of the networks are misleading — “The History Channel” no longer has any programming about history and “The Learning Channel” is only accurate for a certain value of “learning”. (Is there such a thing as having knowledge sucked out of your brain? Apparently.) Why should we expect “The Weather Channel” to be any different?

    I do have to stand up for Wikipedia, though. Although there is no editorial board, per se, that also means that there is no agenda-driven group controlling the content. If you want to try an experiment, go to an article in Wikipedia and edit one small paragraph (anyone can edit an article) to insert a blatantly false statement. See how long it takes before it is corrected. I assure you that it will not take long. Having written articles for mainstream encyclopedias as well as contributing to Wikipedia, I can state from experience that the Wikipedia model, while flawed, is no more flawed than the editorial-driven encyclopedias.

  20. Hansen was right! Earth’s … er … Man-made CO2 levels are going to cause a Greenhouse Effect on the Sun which will cause it to become a Super Sun so that when the next Super Moon comes around the Empire State Building will be lit like a candle which will release even more CO2 which will cause … er … Maybe they should rename the series “Spaced-Out Weather”?

    A side note: I remember a some time ago watching one of the familiar veterens in a segment with one of the new pretty talking heads. I wish I had it recorded or remembered it better but they were talking about the weather and he started to ask her questions. She didn’t have the answers. She shuffled some papers, put on a forced smile, and said, “All these questions!” They went to commercial or another segment. I always hoped he retired. It wasn’t long after that I didn’t notice him anymore.

  21. The Weather Channel has just become another quick stop on the channel flipping. Seldom is there weather reporting actually on the channel; air freight lines, airplane deliveries, life guards and coast guards around the world are the main “reality TV programs.” Combine that with the new ploy of naming winter storms and the name should be changed to NBC-wc because it is no longer about the weather, just another different type of light weight entertainment.

  22. And then there was our Canadian craziness, where one weathercaster earlier this week, told us that Alberta had “23 thousand” hours of sunshine a year. Wow! A simple misreading error I suppose, as there are just over 8,000 hours in a year.

  23. Based on the little bit of it seen above, I think you *might* be over-reacting here a bit, Anthony. This looks like a bit of mildly enlightening what-if scenarios that depict weather conditions on other planets as they’d appear on earth. You can talk about thousand-mile-an-hour winds or atmospheric temperatures of 900 degrees, but these days it’s relatively easy to actually depict it and to do so on a gloriously catastrophic scale (to satiate the appetites of those Mayan calendar dooms-dayers who are still probably sulking).

    It isn’t ‘check your numbers’ science — it’s more like Nova’s Science Now program; dumb, but good to watch when there’s nothing else on and you’re looking for yummy eye candy to go with your popcorn.

  24. And people can still keep a straight face while they tell us it’s worse than they thought ?

    If any of this is even remotely related to science I’m sending my degree back !

  25. Can you imagine if Venus did the same thing?

    “Imagine liquid falling from the sky that can dissolve salt! Imagine temperatures so cold, H20 turns SOLID!”

    Are they writing articles for The Onion now?

  26. The bottom line is always the same. A person, a business, a TV channel, a college science department, the IPCC, et al will do whatever is necessary to exist. If a TV channel wants to exist it must have viewers. The public likes violence, sex, and anything weird and dramatic. So they are just giving the public want they want. We have seen results of studies claiming more violence. The next will probably be more sex, thus more humans creating more CO2. I wonder if one could call that a positive feedback?

  27. What if a cereal-specific, micro-miniature Black Hole of a sudden drained everyone’s oatmeal breakfast into Zombie Land? Would that be Global Weather, Space Weather, or Whether Weather, and absent oatmeal how would the undead survivors know?

  28. @Bryan

    “I do have to stand up for Wikipedia, though. Although there is no editorial board, per se, that also means that there is no agenda-driven group controlling the content.”

    I wish………
    You obviously have not heard of the Green Party activist named William Connolley who rewrote 5,428 unique Wikipedia articles. As Wikipedia a website administrator, he also removed and barred over 2,000 Wikipedia contributors who he disagreed with.

  29. @TomE,

    Seldom is there weather reporting actually on the channel; air freight lines, airplane deliveries, life guards and coast guards around the world are the main “reality TV programs.” Combine that with the new ploy of naming winter storms and the name should be changed to NBC-wc because it is no longer about the weather, just another different type of light weight entertainment.

    Actually, it’s about money. Reality shows came into being after Robin Leach proved in the late 80s and 90s he could produce a winning show (“Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous”) with a $10,000/episode cost. Robin told me that he was vicious about keeping costs down in order to produce massive profits. When the networks found out about it–he kept it secret for a long time–they realized that they could use real people with a 15-minutes-of-fame addiction–think the “Housewives” series–to produce product that let them dump their $200,000 to $500,000 per episode cost of producing regular dramas and documentaries. The networks counted on one thing: Americans wouldn’t object because they were too dumb and uneducated to catch on.

  30. Gentlemen,

    I have been worried for some time now about what would happen if the Earth just stopped spinning on its axes one day. Now don’t tell me that can’t happen, I saw it in a movie once in the 50s. (or maybe I dreamed it) So there!

    We need to get Federal money to study how to prevent this from happening! (well, I do at any rate since I have a theory already of how to stop this horror from occurring)

  31. Anthony, you just made me glad I do not watch TV. Every decade or so I give it a shot. It is about time to try it again but I think I’ll pass for another ten years.

  32. Is it climate change, or the attack of Ming the Merciless? It’s ambiguous from the pictures…

  33. psion (@psion) says:
    January 3, 2013 at 3:21 pm
    Based on the little bit of it seen above, I think you *might* be over-reacting here a bit, Anthony. This looks like a bit of mildly enlightening what-if scenarios that depict weather conditions on other planets as they’d appear on earth. You can talk about thousand-mile-an-hour winds or atmospheric temperatures of 900 degrees, but these days it’s relatively easy to actually depict it and to do so on a gloriously catastrophic scale (to satiate the appetites of those Mayan calendar dooms-dayers who are still probably sulking).
    =====================================================================
    OK … but such things belong on “The Fantasy Channel”, not “The Weather Channel”. TWC used to the weather, not surreality TV.
    Somebody already mentioned it, but The History Channel has gone the same route. It used to be they had some good shows with good info. Not always accurate (In “Blood and Iron” I could have sworn they called the Tirpitz a “pocket battleship”.) but good. If they did a show on “Big Foot” it would be about exploring the legends and aleged sitings etc. Now they go out to try to find the da*m thing! Most of the show would be about them setting up their cameras and what they thought just might have been Big Foot was really just a coyote. But maybe next time ….

  34. Yes but, it is not about science or weather or rational or anything other then entertainment, viewers and ratings. Want to see it change, boycott the sponsors, all of them, but do it quietly so it generates no further publicity.

  35. It’s become horribly apparent that the human race will never evolve beyond the gullibility to the scary-weather-boogy-man. The ‘expert’ kings, high-priests and shamans made their living on it thousands of years ago. And still do.

  36. Two eyed cyclones? Nothing new. Check out:

    http://dx.doi.org/10.1175/1520-0493(1982)1102.0.CO;2

    for the abstract, or for a pdf of the whole paper go to:

    http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0493(1982)1102.0.CO;2

    Right – two eyed cyclones occur in the Pacific when they form on both sides of the equator. It’s a big factor in the growth of el Nino. They do not set buildings on fire.
    I confess, I wrote this paper back when we used electric typewriters. Note the hand drawn figures. Figure 3 is a two eyed cyclone. Figure 4 shows ten years of them – not common, but not “unprecedented”.

  37. Pure alarmism, scaring people like that, because everyone knows the weather on other planets is just like it is here in earth. After all how would those Venetians and Martians survive in weather they describe?

  38. The title “Weather in Other Places in Space and Depicted on Earth Too” seems a little long; unfortunately the shorter “Space Weather” is also a specific term that probably didn’t cross their minds. Unless they start claiming this is where we’re going unless you stop burning fossil fuels (etc.) then I don’t have a problem with it on an individual piece basis except for the unfortunate title. I do have the more than casual concern over the ”entertainmenting” of science in general that if memory serves began in the late 80’s. I can remember when I was growing up watching documentaries with my father; they weren’t so much entertaining as they were informative, not that it’s impossible to be both (James Burke). I just fear something important is being lost in this process, that perhaps information is being sacrificed for entertainment instead of the other way around (kind of like when a shorter title unwittingly uses terms in a nonsensical manner).

  39. As founder of The Weather Channel I am deeply saddened by what has become of my life’s work. I poured everything I had at the prime of my life into creating a basic channel that was focused on a mission to provide accurate and complete weather information for their location and the rest of our nation within a few minutes to everyone who tuned in. As televsion whiz kids have replaced adults and dedicated meteorologists the channel has been reduced to a hodge podge of silliness. Nothing against the many fine people who work there. But, a curse upon their leaders.

  40. Let me try again with the correct links, hopefully….
    Two eyed cyclones? Nothing new. Check out:

    http://dx.doi.org/10.1175/1520-0493(1982)1102.0.CO;2

    for the abstract, or for a pdf of the whole paper go to:

    http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0493(1982)1102.0.CO;2

    Right – two eyed cyclones occur in the Pacific when they form on both sides of the equator. It’s a big factor in the growth of el Nino. They do not set buildings on fire.
    I confess, I wrote this paper back when we used electric typewriters. Note the hand drawn figures. Figure 3 is a two eyed cyclone. Figure 4 shows ten years of them – not common, but not “unprecedented”.

  41. ‘Deadliest weather identified on other planets and arbitrarily applied to Earth’ hasn’t got the same ring to it…

  42. If the weather channel is on Crack then what are they taking at the MET office?

    April 2012 the MET office says:
    “SUMMARY – PRECIPITATION:
    The forecast for average UK rainfall slightly favours drier than average conditions for April May June as a whole, and also slightly favours April being the driest of the 3 months.”

    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/p/i/A3-layout-precip-AMJ.pdf

    December 2012 the MET office says:
    “The exceptionally wet year was characterised by a dry start which quickly gave way to very wet weather, with April and June both being the wettest on record.”

    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2013/2012-weather-statistics

  43. Gads, one more try. I think the WUWT server removes some characters, like brackets, from the link, so I’ll use different spellings.
    Two eyed cyclones? Nothing new. Check out:

    http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/1520-0493%281982%29110%3C1405%3ATROCET%3E2.0.CO%3B2

    for the abstract, or for a pdf of the whole paper go to:

    http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0493%281982%29110%3C1405%3ATROCET%3E2.0.CO%3B2

    Right – two eyed cyclones occur in the Pacific when they form on both sides of the equator. It’s a big factor in the growth of el Nino. They do not set buildings on fire.
    I confess, I wrote this paper back when we used electric typewriters. Note the hand drawn figures. Figure 3 is a two eyed cyclone. Figure 4 shows ten years of them – not common, but not “unprecedented”.

  44. But wait, it’s even grodier than we thought! Not only will Space Weather make the earth as hot as Venus, it will make stone – y’know, like that stuff on the outside of the mall? – like totally boil away at only 900 degrees (is that Farenheit or Celsius? Oh well, whatever; Mr. Heinlein’s always ragging on us about those nits, like I’m shurrr it rilly matters) and, um, wait . . . is stone steam the same as, like, dust? Whatever; it will be rilly, rilly heinous and we’ll all have to wear those shiny metal suits like Devo. Gag me with a spoon!

  45. Guys, give the Weather Channel a break. How would you like to try to fill 24 hours a day, 7 days a week of a blank screen, when all you had was bog-ordinary everyday weather, and only girls three ax handles across the beam (or continuously pregnant) to present it? You would get desparate for content too!

    REPLY: Oh please, John Coleman and Joe D’Aleo did it in the early 80’s with what would be considered ancient technology now – and they succeeded and had a greater audience, because they stayed on factual information, not fluff. – Anthony

  46. @Gail Combs says:
    January 3, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Anthony, you just made me glad I do not watch TV. Every decade or so I give it a shot. It is about time to try it again but I think I’ll pass for another ten years.

    I share your attitude and currently, I’ve ditched the cable/tv portion of my service. I needed a break; I watch youtubes instead (currently doing the James Burke series). But I would urge you, if you can afford it, to start watching even if it causes you great pain ;-). Society needs smart observers, and if all the brains abdicate their responsibility to comment on what the hoi polloi is ingesting mindlessly, society’s cancer deepens. There are lots of names for this: the tipping point, the hundredth monkey, whatever. But a cogent comment from you–and I am assuming you are a scientist from your postings here–may change a life as a result of the trajectory of your expressed accumulated wisdom. But you need the bridge of what’s feeding them. Just a thot. Also, could make you more fun at the local bar where everyone is doing mortal combat with their soul watching Fox. ;-)

  47. When I read this, there were a few things in the descriptions that jumped out at me. “Winds that create a massive cyclone with two eyes and rain that turns life forms into a pillar of carbon!” If you were an average person reading that, you might note “pillar of carbon” and think of “carbon pollution.” Then the next paragraph: “Imagine acid rain that can eat through solid steel! This isn’t the plot of a Hollywood disaster movie, it’s weather happening now in our solar system! See more extreme weather…”

    Think as an average person might think. They have heard that weather is gettting more extreme, acid rain exists, carbon is bad, cyclones and tornadoes are increasing, ad nauseaum. We live in the solar system, therefore these things must be happening to us!!

    The Weather Channel is just laying some groundwork for the newest buzzword: SPACE WEATHER. I am sure that it is even worse than Extreme Weather. After all, those nice people at The Weather Channel know all about weather, don’t they? ( sarc for last paragraph)

  48. I don’t think I have encountered a more clear cut call for drug testing at any organization.

    ;-)

  49. TomE says:
    January 3, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    “The Weather Channel has just become another quick stop on the channel flipping. Seldom is there weather reporting actually on the channel;”

    Absolutely right. I do not use them for my weather information, either on line (directly) or on cable. They have become too infantile and extreme for me to stomach anymore, much like the Weather Underground…

  50. Space weather is a serious matter. There are people who continuously watch the sun for events like coronal mass ejections so they will know when high energy particles might reach the earth. This is very important because satellite operators as well as some terrestrial equipment operators (i.e., communications and electrical grid operators) must know what’s coming so they can mitigate potential problems before they occur. The US Air Force has five observatories located around the world so they can continuously monitor the sun/space weather in order to protect DOD assets in space.

    http://www.afweather.af.mil/units/spaceweatheroperations.asp

  51. The Weather Channel has been off the rails for years.
    I stopped watching it, even before I came here.

  52. Ohs noes. And on Pluto with its various moons, the weather is so extreme that we don’t know what it is. It rains ethane on Titan too. Imagine what would happen if you struck a match. Actually, nothing would happen, there is no oxygen even if you could get it hot enough to vaporize, it would not burn.

  53. It sounds to me like some kids having fun with computer graphics. It might actually be fun to watch. Perhaps they could have chosen a slightly different name than ‘Space Weather’ and it should probably be on the comedy channel instead, but if they portray it as ‘tongue-in-cheek’ it has potential.

  54. Daniel says:
    January 3, 2013 at 4:35 pm
    Ummm, can’t ALL RAIN eat through steel? Isn’t that what CORROSION is?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    OK buddy, you gotta take responsibility for your comments. Do you want to come over and clean my keyboard or shall I send it to you in the mail?

  55. They’ll do a monumental grand expose’ on the Global Catastrophe that is Venus with lots of graphics, pseudoscience, speculation and what-if’s pointing at the runaway climate possibilities here on Earth, “If Earth were 21 million miles closer to the sun, blah, blah, blah.” You know they have a fear/tax/control agenda behind it.

    Do you think big Al is on the producer list? I think this is a last ditch effort to scare the few remaining sheeple that get all their news from the MSM.

    This makes me glad I kicked the Weather Channel to the curb in favor of real forecasting so I’d know what to sort of anticipate the next couple of days.

    Dave

  56. DBD says:
    January 3, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    I’d say meth, not crack.

    Anthony, technically, literally, I’ve got to agree with all who are criticizing the title …

    The Weather Channel, and all of its CACA-derived (depaved) theists who religiously follow the CAGW meme-song condemning millions to an early death by denying them cheap energy, cheap heat, clean water and clean rivers and clear air, and more food, is NOT “high” on coke, meth, pixy dust, or drunk on alcohol.

    It
    IS however, simultaneously and continuously overdosing on coke (burnt coal), and methane, cement dust, and ethanol (subsidies). 8<)

  57. Michael Dingley, Senior VP of Content and Development for the Weather Channel, had the pleasure of announcing the new show to the entertainment press. Here’s an article from Variety magazine. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118062216/?refcatid=4154&printerfriendly=true

    When he was hired by TWC the network had this to say,
    “Dingley has more than 20 years experience in multi-platform, non-fiction content management in local, national and international markets, including 11 years at HGTV. There, he held roles of increasing responsibility including senior vice president of programming and content strategy. During his tenure at HGTV, he established an extensive lineup of shows including House Hunters, My House Is Worth What? and Design Star. Prior to that, Dingley worked at Discovery Communications where he was an executive producer developing non-fiction programming for both the Discovery Channel and Learning Channel.”

    Mr. Dingley has been very busy since he joined the network. From BassAnglerMag.com,
    “Reel Rivals” joins an ever-growing slate of original series for The Weather Channel, including recently announced “Deadliest Space Weather” (2013), “Coast Guard Alaska,” “Iron Men,” “Lifeguard!,” “Ice Pilots,” “Hurricane Hunters,” “Hawaii Air Rescue,” “Coast Guard Florida,” “Plane Xtreme,” “Prospectors” (2013), “Tipping Points” (2013), “Turbine Cowboys,” “Pyros,” “Iceberg Hunters” and “Reef Wranglers” (2013).”

    Mr. Dingley attended University of Rochester and Boston University. My bet is that his degrees were a B.A. and an M.A. But he’s certainly Summa Cum Laude for his honorary BS.

  58. it’s got to be acid or LSD, not crack or meth. Only acid or LSD can cause such intriguing hallucenations.

  59. I rather like the topic. It catches the attention of viewers by hooking into something they know to explore something maybe they don’t know. Classic segway. I have no problems with the way this was presented to consumers.

  60. You obviously have not heard of the Green Party activist named William Connolley who rewrote 5,428 unique Wikipedia articles.

    No-one disputes that WIkipedia has some bad areas.

    What you ignore is that traditional encyclopedias are no better. Back in the “good old days” Thor Heyedahl wrote whole sections for Encyclopedia Britannica. And full of rot they were too.

    Do you think Encyclopedia Britannica would be any less warmist than Wikipedia? If anything it would be worse, because errors of fact would creep in too. And it would be out of date rubbish.

  61. The only time I “consume” the Weather Channel anymore, is during blizzards and hurricanes.
    They do produce, in those conditions.

  62. My take is that the station must have run out of daily weather catastrophes to run for 24 hours and now must place our earth’s civilization on other planets. Rude on its surface, but surely so far beyond the pale, that people would realize that we have the climate that we have because we are where we are. Meaning we are not scorchingly close to the Sun like Mercury and Venus and not freezingly distant like Mars etc.

    I agree with Anthony. This is surprisingly poor sense for a supposed scientific channel operation (just the facts, Mamm) as opposed to science fiction based scare-fare.

    Hopefully TWC will make that clear. If so everyone can then rejoice that our climate is defined by our physical location with respect to the Sun and all interactions with it.

  63. Y’all realize that when you have weather anywhere its gonna establish a climate and, wherever you have a climate you’re gonna have ‘climate change’ and, when you have ‘climate change’ you’re going to need a federal program to combat it. Hey, so how about few $billion to combat galactic climate change? We’re already $trillions in debt so who’s gonna care?

  64. I seem to remember hansen saying Earth was going to turn into Venus at some point.. and when our sun goes giant, I suppose it will. Of course we could just fry, but as far as we know that has never happened before, what we do know is that we are prone to ice age.. maybe we should stick to what we do know instead of wild flights of imagination. Correct me if Im wrong but wasn’t space weather originally started to monitor the satellite environment?

  65. The Weather Channel, like the rest of the Malthusian MSM, has a death-wish agenda for everyone but the Weather Channel, MSM elite. But there’s too many people who refuse to believe their scare tactics. I think they should name their next American “winter fear-mongering for weather progressives” storm El Stupido, in honor of our leftist fear-mongerers in American academia. Any excuse to keep in fear those un-normal people smart enough to realize the sun rises and sets, the seasons come and go, and that mankind will never be powerful enough to set aside the normal order of God’s creation. Oh, by the way–did you hear that Algore just made $100 mil by selling Current to the bad guys who didn’t even have a chance to invest in the Chicago Climate Exchange with him, Soros, and Barack Hussein? Just askin’

  66. It’s all aimed at playing with people’s subconscious and extreme weather speculation.

    “Some thresholds that all would consider dangerous have no support in the literature as having a non-negligible chance of occurring. For instance, a “runaway greenhouse effect” —analogous to Venus–appears to have virtually no chance of being induced by anthropogenic activities…..”

    http://www.ipcc.ch/meetings/session31/inf3.pdf

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/climatic-phenomena-pages/extreme-weather-page/

  67. Um— wouldn’t this be “Weather On Other Planets”…. or, WOOP! There’s their catchy title… much more hip and edgy than “Space weather”…. yawn… see? Even typing it here is boring.

  68. Wait I’ll try.

    The remarkable thing about the “hotter than hot” SpaceWeather is that you get it just from mixing air, a tiny bit of CO2 and a little water vapor. As soon as ordinary sunlight hits this devious concoction, a weird thing happens, called positive water vapor feedback or thermal runaway. It can melt steel in seconds and doesn’t go away for 1,000 years! And all of this has been discovered by a weird Swede in 1906, called Svante Arrhenius!

    how was that? If Pachauri wants my details, tell him I’ll be back later.

  69. Funny, looks like the weather channel is suffering its own form of Sci Fi Tech Escalation. This is when you get to series 7 of anything and it makes the tech in Series 1 look like pea shooters & sharp sticks in comparison…

    Next, what the weather will be like if the Earth gets sucked up by a Black Hole!

  70. “A bad day on Earth is nothing compared to a day on Venus! Winds create a massive cyclone with two eyes and rain that turns life forms into a pillar of carbon!”

    They really have missed this one. Look at the picture and you’ll see Venus’ head with eyes, and right underneath, her shoulders. So then what TWC says are twin cyclones must be Venus’ ….

  71. TWC has become more interested in ratings than in providing real information. As proof, the show mentioned here, Coast Guard ________, Ice Pilots, etc.

  72. Just watch the Weather Channel the next time a hurricane comes our way. Soap operas should be this dramatic and expert at promising impending doom. Reminds me greatly of the old SCTV spoof “Horror Chiller Theater” which promised scary movies by Count Floyd, which always turned out to be duds. The Weather Channel is all about ratings and no one on the set will EVER offer reassuring words- it’s always doom ahead, so stay tuned. TWC could hardly be more transparent
    or unethical.

  73. I’ve almost quit watching The Weather Channel as it has largely turned into sensationalist dreck.

    I want weather reports on the weather channel. That’s been reduced to an (automated?) scan of a weather map ‘on the 8s’ or something like that. Oh Great, I get to read my own weather map and puzzle it out… How about “Large storm due in a week” or even “snow up to 2 feet likely over the next two weeks in Iowa”. Something you can use.

    Instead they have endless shows ABOUT old weather. Feh. Watching someone chasing tornados a decade ago is just not helping me decide if I need to pack a coat and umbrella. Or if I can have a picnic next week. Or should I plant cool or warm things in the garden…

    Now they’ve gone even further off the deep end.

    And naming all the winter storms? It’s an endless gab fest of kaleidoscopic name changes. There are so many storms in winter that naming them all is just silly. We’ll have 3 or 4 stacked up out to sea headed in one some occasions. “Name of the week”?

    So now I mostly just skip it. Hit the computer for weather information. Hit the History Channel if I want endless fantasy stories about improbable events ;-)

    IMHO, both are examples of a kind of Marketing strategy taught in my MBA Marketing class. We were taught that you do market surveys and look at sales and cut the lowest 10% and add to what’s moving. Fine for a grocery store. Not so fine for a news or information theme channel.

    You see the result of this in drug stores that slowly became small grocery stores and just about ANY kind of store that slowly mutates into a clothing store. (Clothes have a higher markup than rope, nuts, bolts, etc. so the local hardware store is slowly turning into a cloths shop as they add more clothes and sell less hardware…) Substituting an algorithm for a theme may boost profits in the short run, but eventually everyone will end up selling clothes and coffee. Then what happens? (Or they all end up showing soap operas and scary movies at 8th grade level… then what…)

    Oh Well. Just means there’s a niche for someone else to start a real weather TV channel again.

  74. I’m sorry but I think the graphic of the “Two Eyed Cyclone” is really a self portrait of the producers, a couple of boobs !

  75. The weatherchannel is disgusting, mawkish PCism. Turn it on & invariably someone interviewed is crying…

  76. As several others have pointed out, “Space Weather” is defined as the electromagnetic
    interaction between Earth’s magnetosphere and the changing interplanetary magnetic
    field and energetic particle environment dominated by the Sun. Their title simply
    confuses matters.

    What their series SHOULD have been called was “Planetary Weather”. Then they
    could have done their nice little sensationalist CGI stuff. “Imagine acid rain that would
    eat steel”–and convey to people a scientifically correct picture of how marvelously
    GENTLE the weather on Earth actually is, compared to other locations in the Solar
    system.

    John Coleman, you have my sincere sympathy.

  77. policycritic says January 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    I share your attitude and currently, I’ve ditched the cable/tv portion of my service. I needed a break; I watch youtubes instead (currently doing the James Burke series).

    James Burke (“Connections” series); a great resource and a good place to ‘jump start’ the historical thinking process (followed up by looking-up the resources he cites) … he can get a bit preachy towards the end of each series, but overall 9-out-of-10 on the rating scale …

    For instance, James Burke’s reference to De re metallica “On the Nature of Metals/Minerals” book published in 1556 was a treat to read, and is available translated here:

    http://www.farlang.com/gemstones/agricola-metallica/page_001

    and

    http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/38015

    .

    • James Burke has had five different series; “Connections”, “Connections 2″, “Connections3″ and “The Day The Universe Changed”, all of which were excellent. The fifth, “After the Warming”, was at the very beginning of the AGW hysteria, alas, and suffered accordingly.

  78. This MBA drive for more money will sink them in the end as they pursue the Sears-Kmart management style to ruin. Look for some sweet golden parachutes and buyout provisions to cushion the blow.

  79. Gail Combs says:
    January 3, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Anthony, you just made me glad I do not watch TV. Every decade or so I give it a shot. It is about time to try it again but I think I’ll pass for another ten years.

    *

    Right with you there! I gave up watching television about twenty years ago. First I gave up the daily dose of human misery (the news) and when my mood, attitude and health all swung towards positive, the rest went very quickly. When I do catch a glimpse of it now, the only highlights are some of the adverts, simply because I haven’t seen them before. Overall, TV is too annoying to stay with generally, never mind with this kind of ‘Oh-let’s-all-be-scared-together’ type of “science”.

    Now I’m a DVD person. I watch what I want to watch, when I want to watch it, and I get news about imprtant things from certain blogs. :)

    As for this latest craziness of the week… I was about to say, “How many would take it seriously?” Unfortunately, probably quite a few in certain circles.

  80. John Coleman says:
    January 3, 2013 at 4:19 pm
    As founder of The Weather Channel I am deeply saddened by what has become of my life’s work. I poured everything I had at the prime of my life into creating a basic channel that was focused on a mission to provide accurate and complete weather information for their location and the rest of our nation within a few minutes to everyone who tuned in. As televsion whiz kids have replaced adults and dedicated meteorologists the channel has been reduced to a hodge podge of silliness. Nothing against the many fine people who work there. But, a curse upon their leaders.
    ===================================================================
    This may be small consolation but, what you built was good. You knew what you wanted to do and you did it. You may be saddened by what others have done with it but that doesn’t change what you did when you called the shots. What others have done with what you did with TWC doesn’t have to change you unless you let it.
    Those of us who are old enough to remember using it for up-to-date info to help us are grateful.
    PS When my son was born and would wake up in the middle of the night there were times when the only thing that would stop him from crying was turning on TWC. If I changed the channel, he’d start crying again. I’d switch back to TWC and he’d calm down. Believe me, I was GRATEFUL! 8-)

  81. DSW says:

    January 3, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Auto says:
    January 3, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Arts majors.
    And no sub-editor at all.

    I worry about the magma – thousands of degrees –

    Al Gore said it is millions of degrees dude – you are way off,… /sarc

    =============
    Apologies if I have not assiduously followed the latest prognostications of the Planet’s greatest ever scientist – per Wikipedia (the MOST authoritative Source in the Known Universe – and beyond [Sarc off] -“Although he was an avid reader who fell in love with scientific and mathematical theories,[23] he did not do well in science classes in college, and avoided taking math.)”

    Plainly fully qualified to judge statistics, mathmatics, physics, chemistry and so on.

    DSW – sorry if I missed this stellar intellect – a brain the size of a planet – and so on . . . . .

  82. John K. Sutherland says:
    January 3, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    And then there was our Canadian craziness, where one weathercaster earlier this week, told us that Alberta had “23 thousand” hours of sunshine a year. Wow! A simple misreading error I suppose, as there are just over 8,000 hours in a year.<<
    ————————————————————————————–

    I got a good laugh out of this. I suppose someone thought they could get an arbitrarily large number of hours simply by counting the hour between 12PM and 1PM as 1 hour, and then the hour between 12:01 and 1:01 as another, and 12:02 to 1:02…

    How much sunshine do you want?

  83. The Rothschild family is involved in weather modification, which means that they also need to control weather forecasts. In order to accomplish this, they have recently acquired a 70% interest in Weather Central, LP. With the necessary modeling and lovely graphics they will provides for the constant visual conditioning that makes the population more likely to accept the spraying and manipulation of our weather as “normal”. In other words, there is no point relying on “The Weather Channel” anymore. By the way, Congress has approved obscene amounts of our tax dollars for these aerosol programs. For more info check http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

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