As reported this past weekend, we had a hilarious case of Mann overboard! Since then, it has become the #1 story on WordPress worldwide. It stems from a $10 calendar from COSTCO I sent Dr. Mann, Dr. Gavin Schmidt, Dr. Peter Gleick and Dana Nuccitelli of “Skeptical Science” as Christmas gifts. As I said then, a little good humor didn’t work on the humorless.
Not content to simply stay quiet or just admit he went overboard in his claims while the world laughs at his reactions, he goes further with this latest Tweet:
A few notes for Dr. Mann:
1. I never received $88K. The project it was for was to be funded in two stages, only the first stage has been funded. The second stage never materialized, mainly because I haven’t asked for it, I’m still working on getting phase 1 finished so I can show results. Note that the money didn’t come from Heartland per se, they only found a private donor for me.
See this (in comments for the original story via Roger Knights who explained it well):
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Here’s the background on the Anthony/Heartland deal, which has been posted in one form or another widely enough that warmists ought to know about it. Watts isn’t paid for his blogging. A Heartland document describes a request he made last year for funding for a different project:
“Anthony Watts proposes to create a new Web site devoted to accessing the new temperature data from NOAA’s web site and converting them into easy-to-understand graphs that can be easily found and understood by weathermen and the general interested public. Watts has deep expertise in Web site design generally and is well-known and highly regarded by weathermen and meteorologists everywhere. The new site will be promoted heavily at WattsUpwithThat.com. Heartland has agreed to help Anthony raise $88,000 for the project in 2011. The Anonymous Donor has already pledged $44,000. We’ll seek to raise the balance.”
Watts later reported on the progress of this project. Most of the money, apparently, will go to a contract programmer and for equipment and internet fees:
“Using the funds provided with the help of Heartland’s private donor, I hired a specialist programmer familiar with NOAA systems to trap and convert the NOAA sat feed data to look like any other hourly station (like ASOS hourly stations at airports etc) so that we’d be able to start the visualization and comparison process. This is just one phase of the project before it is ready for public consumption. When finished, there will be a website free and open to the public that will allow tracking and visualization of temperatures from the CRN right alongside that of the regular surface network”
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And the fabricated documents (which Dr. Mann apparently still thinks is factual) which lead to the sort of misinformation Dr. Mann uses, are here: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/02/global-warming-alarmists-resort-to-hoax.php
Some early output from the data visualization of the project are here:
and here:
Note that’s not a complete output, just two samples of many. The project is still not complete as any technical person who has done such projects knows, monkey wrenches and hurdles abound in the best made plans.
2. Dr. Mann, as a scholar of this debate, you should know by now that facts surrounding the Koch involvement with Heartland (stolen by his own admission and leaked by your buddy Dr. Peter Gleick) was $25K, and it was designated for a health care project.
See this via Megan McArdle at The Atlantic, emphasis mine:
But not a full understanding of those documents, because the memo made curious errors. Most notably, it claimed that the Koch foundation had given $200,000 in 2011, when the actual number was $25,000 ($200,000 is what Heartland’s fundraising document indicates they hoped to get in 2012)–and since that money was donated for Health Care News, Heartland’s health care newsletter, it’s hard to see why it would show up in the climate strategy document, rather than, say, a document about their health care strategy. Given other anomalies surrounding the document, it seemed to me very likely that whoever had phished the authenticated board package had been disappointed by the lack of sizeable contributions from Big Oil and the Kochs, and so had written the memo to make sure that the documents told a nice, neat story about corruption and secrecy, rather than a boring, equivocal story about an issue advocacy organization with a spot of budget trouble.
Dr. Mann, please do show how this Koch donation for health care somehow found its way to me or kindly shut your π hole.
3. As for the money from the calendar itself, it came from my personal credit/debit card as I previously demonstrated:
In essence, all WUWT readers funded it, because that debit card has a balance on it from previous calendar sales. It is used to pay COSTCO for producing and shipping the calendars, something that was obviously beyond Dr. Mann’s comprehension based on his initial reaction.
4. As Tom Nelson pointed out, similar questions could be asked of you:
Twitter / MichaelEMann: #WUWT minions out to defend …
#WUWT minions out to defend #Watts against having spent any of his 88K from #Heartland (i.e. #Koch et al) on calendar. So how did he spend?
Hey Michael: How did you spend the income from your climate hoax books?
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MAC says:
December 22, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Flashy? Widely distributed? LOL.
Mann: “We know Anthony Watts received $44K/yr from Koch-funded #Heartland Institute….
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WOW a one time grant for a surface station study for a mind boggling $44,000!
So how does that stack up to Mikey’s Moola?
Grants = Michael Mann brought at least $4,166,168 to Penn State
Rank and file “..atmospheric, earth, marine, and space sciences teachers, postsecondary” earn considerably more than the average university teacher ( @ $70.61 per hour)…. [normal] university lecturers and professors earn an average of $49.88 an hour From Salaries for all US Scientists by field – A Full Professor in Science $129,818
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5. Since turnabout is fair play, one could ask the question of Dr. Mann if any of the grant money he’s brought to Penn State went to Christmas gifts this year, or perhaps expenses for his “Flashy, widely distributed” book, or other expenses?
The disparity of funding between Dr. Mann’s endeavors and my project for CRN data visualization is laughable, yet Dr. Mann is worried about $15.84 spent on producing and shipping a calendar gift to him, something people regularly give away, just as I did. His fixation on this seems almost like a line from The Caine Mutiny.
6. Dr. Mann and others who continually insist that climate skeptics such as myself are recipients of huge “big oil/big coal” funds as Dr. Mann is often fond of saying:
“There has been, for years now, a very well-organized and frankly well-funded effort to confuse the public about climate change.”
He (and others that think this) should really take a moment to read this essay: Notes From Skull Island – why climate skeptics aren’t ‘well funded and well organized’
Within his multi-million dollar funded cocoon of academia, it must be impossible for Dr. Mann to understand that many climate skeptics are motivated by individual patriotism and concern for their country and the future of science, rather than the almighty dollar. In my conversations at AGU with Steve McIntyre, we both compared notes about how much better off we’d be financially if we didn’t have this climate issue diverting us. Steve has finally moved on to spending more time with his mining consulting business, and I’m likely to spend more time on my own business in 2013. We both have to work for a living, we don’t have tenure that allows us to take sabbaticals.
I sympathize with Dr. Mann’s plight, since by his reaction he obviously doesn’t understand COSTCO, likely never having shopped there. We all find it humorous. But, alas, Dr. Mann spins entertaining tales from his ignorance, much like the fabled (and false) claim that a U.S. president didn’t know what a grocery scanner was. It makes for a good story for people who want to believe you, but in the end, just like Dr. Mann’s hockey stick graph, when you examine the details, things aren’t as they seem.
7. In any event, now that Dr. Mann is on factual notice (since we know by his actions he monitors WUWT), any further emanations from him on this subject should now be factually based, otherwise they’ll just be purposely mendacious.
8. Right now, given the reactions, I think Dr. Mann and others in his climate clique are suffering from a “rat-hole problem”. Please note that is not a derogatory term. The meaning of “rat-hole problem” will become clear in the next posting (on Christmas day) and I think we should find a way to help him and others.
9. As before, I wish Dr. Mann, and the other recipients of the Josh/WUWT 2013 Calendar a very merry Christmas, and best wishes for the coming new year. I hope he’ll take a moment of respite from the “climate wars” to enjoy this most joyous of holidays.
(Posting and moderation will be light/nonexistent for a while, comments may go unpublished for an extended period of time during this holiday. )
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If he can’t be honest with something as transparent as a calender, where the history is known (never mind a Nobel), then why should he expect anyone to believe him when it comes to his tree-ring science?
This is what you get for associating with crazy people. 🙂
REPLY: Yes, many consider all skeptics crazy, worthy of putting to death ahead of mass murderers:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/12/23/beyond-bizarre-university-of-graz-music-professor-calls-for-skeptic-death-sentences/
– Anthony
“WUWT minions out to defend”
Ah, such a goodwill response is of course manndatory.
Merry Xmas to one and all.
Usually when people use the phrase “The gift that keeps on giving.” it’s as a figure of speech. Not literally true but it communicates the idea better than the literal truth. But in this case ….
DJ, that’s three ring science
Politics today is nothing more than the acquisition of Slush Funds. And Mr. Mann is nothing more than a politician, not a scientist.
I’m beginning to wonder if Dr. Mann is as intelligent as he thinks he is since he has so consistently gotten this one issue wrong (and it is really very simple). If he demonstrably cannot handle as issue as simple as this, is it any wonder that he so consistently is wrong in his more complex projects?
Reblogged this on Climate Ponderings and commented:
Hey! Mr Mann So how did YOU spend?
The $541,184 grant is for three years and was initiated in June 2009.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703657604575005412584751830.html
The Mann is just sad I am really struggling to find a polite way to describe him.
Here are his latest tweets
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann
Anthony #Watts still hasn’t told us (a) how he spent his 88K from #Heartland (#Koch et al) or (b) full $$$ he’s gotten from front groups…
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how about this
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann
Wow loonies out in force this morning. Guess #Heartland Institute attack dog Anthony Watts released his attack dogs for holidays #YuleTrolls
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By the way Mann if I had the money, I would sue you, but since I am not paid by the government for producing fake reports. You have no right to call me a loony. It is so typical of people like you, when you lost the argument, if can call it that. You have to resort to name calling. I am not Mr Watts attack dog either, don’t even know the guy.
What I don’t like is a person like you that can’t separate fact from fiction. Except I forgot you just like fiction
By the way I got twitter account back. Thank you Mann for your suppression of free speech.
We don’t seem to understand the tactics of the alarmists. How is it that people like Mann can continue to repeat the meme of big oil funding?
The answer is simple. They know sceptics are NOT funded by big oil or big anything. Having vigorously denied this funding for so long now, what hope is there of EVER GETTING ANY MAJOR FUNDING FROM BIG ANYTHING should sceptics really need it in the future?
Sceptics have continually fallen for the alarmists tactics and we will continue to do so, so long as we play the game by the Neville Chamberlain Rules.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_for_our_time
It’s time to wake up, Czechoslovakia, Poland and France (universities, science societies and government departments) have been invaded, yet our side is still waving around a gentlemans’ agreement of peaceful diplomacy.
Sounds like Manns on the ropes and wiiling to grasp anything…throw enough mud and some will stick.which why i think the calendar was and is a bad idea Anthony, you know what sort of person Mann is he’ll use anything to muddy your namesimply because you are a threat to the Cause 2013 will be an interseting year.lets no make it so for the wrong reasons keep them on the back foot
Merry Yule and Happy Newy Year to you and yours Athony and all WUWTers
Anthony,
I think Merovign was referring to you associating with Mann by sending him a Christmas gift. 🙂
Oh that Mikey’s such a card.
Just smile back at him, wish him a Merry Christmas, and hope he gets what he deserves from Santa.
That also goes for all of you boys and girls.
The tactic of the “Big Lie” is alive well and practiced by any and all who have only propaganda to spin for the that big PR effect. Ignore him. These bullies deflate like a balloon as soon as no one is looking at them.
6. Dr. Mann and others who continually insist that climate skeptics such as myself are recipients of huge “big oil/big coal” funds as Dr. Mann is often fond of saying:
“There has been, for years now, a very well-organized and frankly well-funded effort to confuse the public about climate change.”
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“Very well-organized”, reminds me of something Gail Combs once said about herding goats …..
“Frankly well-funded effort to confuse the public about climate change.” I was once accused by a commenter here of having a “fossil fuel agenda”. Why do I still have a mortgage?
Confused? I just paid attention to the record highs and lows for where I live. (This was before I found WUWT.) Most of the record highs were before 1950 and most of the record lows were after 1950. It didn’t take a hit on the head with a hockey stick to realize that where I live is part of the globe and temperatures must have something to do with “Global Warming”. (They were still primarily calling it “Global Warming” rather than “Climate Change” back then.)
Keep digging Mr. Mann, your already up to your neck in you know what. In the meantime I wish you all a Very Merry Christmas.
And a Lump of coal for ALL [out]liers and cheats!
The Josh/WUWT 2013 Calendar – the gift that keeps giving. 🙂
Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but my patience with this guy has worn completely through, it was thin, but is now non-existent. Obviously, I would not condone violent behaviour but I think it’s fair to point out that the man is almost daring for somebody to put him straight with that kind of ‘aggresion’. When I was a lad, we used to encourage those kind of folk (bullies mainly) behind the bike sheds at school, where the issues would be duly sorted out.
Clearly, some of the distorted elements of Man need similarly sorting out………
Well even with a ten foot pole, I’d hesitate to touch the likes of Mann and consorts. See what happen to good people when they rub to close with Connolley of Wikipedia. Come on Anthony, it was pure provocation from your part. Moreover, they did not need a calendar since they worked with the Mayan one, and will discover and publish in the next issue of Nature that in fact the Mayans meant next year plus or minus the following upcoming years, after having merged datasets from Manned and automatic stations showing today’s apocalypse is always for tomorrow. /sarc
Merovign says:
December 24, 2012 at 1:21 pm
This is what you get for associating with crazy people. 🙂
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Actually, I am crazy, crazy about good science, as I think all who enjoy this site are. Good one, Merovign.
Merry Christmas to all and particularly to you, Anthony!
In summary Dr Mann , shut up while you’re behind…
When you are as universally discredited as Mann, there is only one option left open to you: Attack and smear.
This is just another example of the above.
Perhaps a full disclosure of his travel expenses for the year would be a start from him.
He must be having a bit of fun, really. He must be. Right?
Quite frankly, I think mann is too stupid to understand what we’re trying to tell him here.
I also think, once mann has been trounced and humilated by Dr. Ball and Mr. Steyn, Anthony et al ought to take it back to him, for defamation of character. By then even his government pals will have abandoned him.
REPLY: I’ll have to defend Dr. Mann here by saying that my impression is that he is not stupid, but simply caught up in a trap of his own making and is lashing out. He needs an escape hatch, as does climate science in general – Anthony