Josh of cartoonsbyjosh.com writes:
See Judith Curry’s great post about what looks like an interesting new book by David Weinberger Too Big to Know: Rethinking Knowledge Now That the Facts Aren’t the Facts, Experts are Everywhere, and the Smartest Person in the Room is the Room.
Feels like familiar territory.
Here’s the cartoon:
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I just heard an interview with him on CBC radio on Sunday. Not bad, but nothing struck me as new.
Sorry Josh, but one Mann is too many. The idea that there’s a room somewhere full of them is just too creepy.
Not to mention Embigenning the English Vocabulary.
I’m going to steal that one from you fair and square.
George
There’s nothing novel about “embiggening” George…it’s a perfectly cromulent word.
All in purple. Are they, sorry,is he a David Icke fan?
Seeing that cartoon reminded me of one of my favorite old brain teasers…”If you were in a room and all four sides were facing south…and a polar bear walked by…what color is the bear?”
The answer…white, because you are at the North Pole…and it would have to be a polar bear.
I am not sure what the point of all this is, but it’s kinda funny. Because in Mann’s World not only will there not be snow in England for all kiddies of tomorrow (non specific time frame – double sarc). My dumb joke will really confuse feeble minds, because there won’t be any polar bears, nor any ice because the North Pole will be a Tropical Paradise…which is kinda like Military Intelligence… I think…
His eyes are drawn too big. He looks much more like Mole Mann to me, in real life.
The only thing green about Mann is his shoes, because everybody knows what he repeatedly steps in.
Now MM the surgeon wearing purple scrubs and green crocks. That’s exactly what the surgeon that did my wife’s biopsy looked like except for the surgical doo rag.
MM holding something sharp is a frightening thought.
Another cautionary tale about the dangers of human cloning…
In Burrito says:
January 10, 2012 at 12:32 pm
There’s nothing novel about “embiggening” George…it’s a perfectly cromulent word.
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I didn’t know those were words until I moved to Springfield !!
“Bloke down the pub says:
Sorry Josh, but one Mann is too many. The idea that there’s a room somewhere full of them is just too creepy.”
Not really – so long as the room has nice padded walls and is on a large estate surrounded by unclimable walls and staffed by lots of nice nurses, orderlies and doctors.
“”””” In Burrito says:
January 10, 2012 at 12:32 pm
There’s nothing novel about “embiggening” George…it’s a perfectly cromulent word. “”””
my German is crappy, beyond belief, specially when it comes to those umlauts; well all louts really.
Is “em” a short form of “in dem”, so we have ” in dem beginning “”
Nope; got some typos there; that is biggening, and not beginning; and I think the Prussian part is actually “im” rather than “em”.
Damn, I thought I already had it decoded !
I’m sure I read that “in dem beginning” somewhere; some old book. I know it’s not “A tale of Two Cities” that’s something like: ” It was the best of times; it was the worst of times” Well make up your mind; which book you are going to write.
Well that “cromulent” izzat something to do with Tamale husks; they are pretty cromulent, if you try to eat the Tamale, in the husk; put me off the damn things for years, before someone told me to discromulate them first. Now I can’t stand them but MIL still makes the world’s best ones; so I eat them just to please her.
Andrew says:
January 10, 2012 at 12:41 pm
That must be the modern, politically correct version. The one I read in Scientific American’s Mathematical Games was “A hunter heads one mile south, then one mile east, then one mile north and finds himself where he started. He shoots a bear, what color is it?”
While there is only one place in the northern hemisphere where that path works, there are an infinite number of latitudes in the southern hemisphere. The northernmost one is one mile north of the latitude circle that has a one mile circumference. (Of course, the next path will include the latitude circle half a mile in circumference.)
There won’t be any bears there, so the question as stated has only one correct answer.
What was the topic? Oh multi-Mann. No problem going off-topic in this thread, then. 🙂
And now for something completely different…
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/10/smoking-pot-in-moderation-wont-damage-your-lungs-u-s-study/
George E. Smith; says”:…..yada yada yada….”
George, I think you have it all wrong. “In dem beginning”…is a reference to some old baseball movie about the Anaheim franchise or something.
The Best of Times is a song from a rock band called Sticks…or something.
…and I think “A tale from Two Cities” was written by the same guy that wrote about catching that big fish…I think it was a Dolly Varden, Salvelinus malma malma, but I might need to check my facts.
I am amaized you can call MIL’s Tamales the Worlds Best, when you are clearly a Tamale Denier…but I digress…and who is MIL? Now I am confused…I am just an ordinary average guy, not some super smart science guy.
Polar Bears aren’t white.
http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/polar-bears/bear-essentials-polar-style/characteristics/fur-and-skin
George E. Smith; says:
January 10, 2012 at 2:31 pm
“”””” In Burrito says:
January 10, 2012 at 12:32 pm
There’s nothing novel about “embiggening” George…it’s a perfectly cromulent word. “”””
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No, think more “low brow”
The Simpsons”!!!!
I see Josh has the same issue as climate modellers – he never takes account of the clouds.
They are obviously the most intelligent ones in the room since nobody understands them.
Yes, we knew that already. We’ve know this for years. And, in regards to our climate, it will always be so. We don’t, we can’t, know what we don’t know. All of the questions lead back to the original question. And the answer to the original question requires faith before one can know it.
I found this Bloomberg article today interesting in that I was unaware that Barack Obama had an initiative in consideration that implores publicly-funded scientists to share their data and their code or lose their funding.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-10/scientists-share-secrets-or-lose-funding-stodden-and-arbesman.html
“”””” Andrew says:
January 10, 2012 at 3:22 pm
George E. Smith; says”:…..yada yada yada….”
George, I think you have it all wrong. “In dem beginning”…is a reference to some old baseball movie about the Anaheim franchise or something. “””””
Well MIL is my Mother in Law. and now that you tweaked my memory, it was Satchel Paige wot said “in dem beginning.”, and as old as that old coot was, he had to be there in dem beginning.
Actually got to see old Satch play for the St Louis Cardinals circa 1964-67 in STL I figure he was 137 years old even then.
How can you tell the difference between a really good new PhD climate scientist and a bad one? If it walks like a Mann, acts like a Mann, and talks like a Mann, it is a bad one. Sorry guys, but just had to say it.
This is the reason I got into this debate.
Having had experience in complex systems where, at the end of the day, it just became the most reasonable position to take to say we have to measure what “actually happens” after the fact because the projections almost never matched what actually happened at end of the day, it was clear to me that the theory and the climate model projections were too theoritical (and too dogmatic in that theory) while measuring what actually happens was almost disregarded. This is not science and I also had a strong interest in good science.
The Earth receives 1.1 X 10^38 solar photons each day and emits 6.7 X 10^38 IR photons each day and the energy represented by these photons spends time in 8 billion different molecules before they escape from the Earth and the delay in this absorption and emission produces the 2 metre air temperature that we experience.
We are NOT going to be able to model that system. The numbers and the interactions are just far too complex and far too large. 10^38 times too complex.
We have to measure what actually happens after the fact and then we will know a billion (or 10^38) times better what will happen in the future rather than relying on some dogmatic theory.
Only one Mann has a smile. Is that the one who can see the hockey stick? 😉