Windsplode in Scotland – plus some turbines can't handle 50mph

I wonder what the incident frequency is for wind turbine fires versus say coal, hydro, or nuclear plants?

From STV Scotland:

Mr McMahon, who captured the spectacular fire in photos, added: “I didn’t hear any explosion or anything, but my wife shouted for me to come down and see the fire.

“There are around 13 or 15 wind turbines in the farm above Ardrossan. They were all off today because of the high winds, so something has obviously shorted out and gone on fire.

h/t to WUWT reader Gordon Daily

UPDATE: BBC reports in the south of Scotland the 50mph winds are knocking down turbines:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-16084013

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Interstellar Bill
December 8, 2011 11:02 am

Can all of those damn bird-slicers do the same?
And then, please fall over and decompose rapidly.

hum
December 8, 2011 11:07 am

Obviously global warming caused this fire, something both warmists or a skeptic could probably agree on. For the skeptic the windmill would probably not have been there except for global warming and for the warmists GW caused the high winds.

Peter Miller
December 8, 2011 11:08 am

An ideal photo to commemerate the current Durban jamboree.
The crashing and burning of climatology.

Jace
December 8, 2011 11:09 am

Some of those things are next to roads, didnt a smaller one blow up in a school?

December 8, 2011 11:14 am

But let a nuclear reactor facility develop a leak in a men’s room urinal or some other non-essential process and watch the enviros come out of the ground to protest the risk.

vboring
December 8, 2011 11:15 am

Gas plants occasionally have explosions during construction of the gas connection, but coal plants are a long since mature technology and don’t involve any explosive materials.
This wind turbine is an odd failure. The only reason I can think of why it would fail during a storm is from an overspeed condition overheating the transmission or overheating of the brake, but they say that the turbine was stopped to avoid this. And usually mechanical failures result in overspeed failures like the blades spinning out of control and flying to pieces. I guess it could be something like an unsecured electrical cable rubbing it’s insulation off because of the nacelle moving in the wind, but the backfeed protection should have prevented it from turning into a fire.

Neo
December 8, 2011 11:19 am

So this is the “wind energy” equivalent of the “China Syndrome” ?

H.R.
December 8, 2011 11:20 am

Wind power. No wind, no good. Too much wind, no good. Need power? Hope for breezes.
On a positive note, they make a good cigar lighter.

ROM
December 8, 2011 11:26 am

In March 2011 the John Muir Trust, a UK wild land conservation group, put out a report “Analysis of UK wind Power Generation” which instead of the generalised data published by the wind power industry broke the performance of wind power down to the real actual power generation figures.
http://www.jmt.org/assets/pdf/Report_Analysis%20UK%20Wind_SYoung.pdf
Executive Summary; Principal Findings.
The following five statements are common assertions made by both the wind
industry and Government representatives and agencies. This Report examines
those assertions.
1. “Wind turbines will generate on average 30% of their rated capacity over a year.”
2. “The wind is always blowing somewhere.”
3. “Periods of widespread low wind are infrequent.”
4. “The probability of very low wind output coinciding with peak electricity demand is slight.”
5. “Pumped storage hydro can fill the generation gap during prolonged low wind periods.”
This analysis uses publicly available data for a 26 month period between November
2008 and December 2010 and the facts in respect of the above assertions are:
1. Average output from wind was 27.18% of metered capacity in 2009, 21.14% in 2010, and 24.08% between November 2008 and December 2010 inclusive.
2. There were 124 separate occasions from November 2008 till December 2010 when total generation from the windfarms metered by National Grid was less than 20MW. (Average capacity over the period was in excess of 1600MW).
3. The average frequency and duration of a low wind event of 20MW or less between November
2008 and December 2010 was once every 6.38 days for a period of 4.93 hours.
4. At each of the four highest peak demands of 2010 wind output was low being respectively 4.72%, 5.51%, 2.59% and 2.51% of capacity at peak demand.
5. The entire pumped storage hydro capacity in the UK can provide up to 2788MW for only 5 hours then it drops to 1060MW, and finally runs out of water after 22 hours.
The crazy drive by governments everywhere towards the grossly over rated and hideously expensive and grossly inefficient wind power is one of the main reasons for the increasing fuel poverty being experienced by the poor and oldest particularly in the UK and other parts of Europe.
As an un-named Australian Cabinet Minister has supposedly been quoted as saying “Alternative power generation is one of the most efficient ways of transferring wealth from the poor to the rich”.

Phillip Bratby
December 8, 2011 11:28 am

World-wide statistics on wind farm accidents are maintained by the Caithness Wind Farm Information Forum. Fires, collapse, blade failure – it’s all there. Fires are very frequent and impossible to put out.
http://www.caithnesswindfarms.co.uk/page4.htm

Neil Turner
December 8, 2011 11:31 am

OK, the warmists had their picture of the polar bear on the shrinking ice flow.
Now, we sceptics have our icon.
A picture paints a thousand words….

Ray
December 8, 2011 11:31 am

They should add a KY pump to reduce friction during high winds… /sarc

pat
December 8, 2011 11:32 am

Don’t work when its still, don’t work when it blows. But it makes crony capitalists money any way.

cui bono
December 8, 2011 11:38 am

Gales of laughter.

P Wilson
December 8, 2011 11:40 am

Wind turbines that get taken out by wind.
Excellent

crosspatch
December 8, 2011 11:44 am

This was exactly the first thing that came to mind when someone posted a link in the UK media that a major winter storm was about to hit the UK. “There go to turbines” was, I think, my first thought.
THIS is the primary argument against wind power (and solar). We can not have a power supply subject to having the generation capacity destroyed by bad weather. Sure, we are used to having distribution system damage due to weather and power lines can be repaired in relatively short order, but when the generation capacity is destroyed, we do not have a robust source of power for the country.
Solar is even worse in areas that regularly experience large damaging hail. Imagine making an investment for a solar generation infrastructure only to see it destroyed in a hail storm and have to be replaced … maybe every single year!

RHS
December 8, 2011 11:45 am

Hope they have the equivalent of HazMat on scene, rare earth magnets release toxic fumes with temps above 350’ish. This is the main reason they cannot/should not be machined.

Steve Oregon
December 8, 2011 11:46 am

FYI Dams are wind proof.
Regulators Tell Bonneville Power Administration to Stop Pulling the Plug On Wind Farms, in the December 7 Oregonian link at http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2011/12/regulators_tell_bonneville_to.html ,
begins with the following statements,
“Federal energy regulators told the Bonneville Power Administration Wednesday that it can no longer discriminate against wind farm owners by cutting off their transmission during periods of excess electricity generation in the region.
The decision is a rare defeat for the federal power marketing agency, which sells electricity generated at 31 federal hydroelectric projects in the region to 140 public utilities. BPA also controls three quarters of the high voltage transmission system in the Northwest.
During last spring’s massive runoff, BPA adopted a policy of curtailing generation by wind farms in the region when there was too much power going into the grid, and substituting its own hydropower for free to satisfy those winds farms’ contracts with customers.
BPA contended that it couldn’t dial back hydroelectric generation because sending excess water over the dams’ spillways rather than through turbines would create too much turbulence and violate dissolved gas limits established to protect salmon.”

DRE
December 8, 2011 11:47 am

Maybe they should design these things so they can be retracted into the ground when the wind gets too high.

Geoff Shorten
December 8, 2011 11:50 am

Just updated my wallpaper from a previous picture (posted here?) to this one…
…and another one bites the dust!

MangoChutney
December 8, 2011 11:50 am

Now if those damn birds happened along at the same time, we could have a ready made BBQ 🙂

Sparks
December 8, 2011 12:06 pm

Climate Change proponents push the BS that we’ll have more frequent storms due to a rise of Co2, and we should pay millions extra on our utility bills to build more wind farms to help reduce Co2.
Hmm… (scratches chin) they didn’t put too much thought into that argument!

December 8, 2011 12:06 pm

EU Referendum had a great idea: Solve climate change–burn wind turbines.

Mac the Knife
December 8, 2011 12:08 pm

Is the black pall of smoke, molten debris ejecta , and spray of transmission oil all part of ‘reducing our carbon foot prints’? Hmmmm????
How’s that working….. other than creating another hazardous waste clean up site? And potentially setting the surrounding countryside ablaze, with 160mph winds to drive the conflagration!!!

kwik
December 8, 2011 12:15 pm

Strange they cannot feather the blades…..

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