From the House Appropriations Committee: Summary — Final Fiscal Year 2011 Continuing Resolution: PDF
Page 2: Commerce, Justice, Science: “This section of the CR also prohibits funding for: the establishment of a Climate Service at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.”
Here is the dream website of the NOAA Climate Service.
Now, NOAA can get back to essential services like severe weather warnings, hurricane hunting, and fisheries.
Hopefully people won’t die, as Bill Hopkins, the NWS Employees Organization vice president predicted last month (WUWT post link) if the House’s original budget cuts were implemented:
Bill Hopkins, vice president of the NWS Employees Organization, said the public may be in real danger a House bill is passed that would slash The National Weather Service’s budget by $126 million.”It could potentially lead to a loss of lives, not necessarily in San Antonio, but it could in other parts of the county,” Hopkins said.Local NWS offices would likely deal with rolling closures and furloughs, leaving the Corpus Christi NWS office to take over issuing warnings for the San Antonio area.”Not only will they be watching your area, but they will also be watching their area, and there will be no increase in personnel to do this,” Hopkins said.The national NWS office said President Obama has opposed to such harsh cuts. Hopkins said the cuts would significantly affect those along the Gulf Coast.”The National Hurricane Center would be reduced to 32 hours a week,” Hopkins said.There would also be far fewer hurricane hunter flights, which are often vital parts of hurricane forecasts.According to Hopkins, large amounts of weather data would be lost.”Can you imagine flying into an airport and they lose all their surface data? There’s really drastic impacts in this cut,” Hopkins said.
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Well now if NASA can get back to Space , it would be great too.
I’ll be happy if they’re forced to stick with observing and reporting climate, and not trying to influence policy or public opinion. Happier yet if they aren’t allowed to try and scare people.
Climate change observations will continue under the NOAA, they just won’t call it the “Climate Service.” It’s quite important that they continue this research. These institutions are not going to roll over to a group of anti-science politicians, I’m sorry.
And what about Goddard Institute of Space Studies? Weren’t they to be told to get out of climate and back into space? That would entail a complete restaffing (starting with Hansen) since they have no one left who knows space as anything more than a sink for OLW!
“Hopkins said.There would also be far fewer hurricane hunter flights, which are …”
Does not flying produce CO2 there by increasing the GHE they want to avoid? So isn’t this a good thing? Or is this Bizarro World?
In private business, to do something more efficiently and effectively translates to saving money, reducing costs, improving quality, etc. In government, it ususally translates to “needing more money.”
[snip – excessive vitriol ]
Anthony,
If the NOAA weather warning services are cut, I would imagine there would be more business opportunity for you. Strange and morbid as that may sound, I actually hope that happens. I think technology has evolved enough where distributed data collection could be used to generate warning services. Kind of like an every-mans weather-service, everyone contributes, and everyone makes use. The internet would of course be a major conduit of information.
If this really does impact NOAA’s basic services, it would be a bad thing. … but it might be a good learning experience. The people are tired of the scam, and anyone who participates in the scam can now expect to suffer just a bit.
Do the climatology, do the timatology.
Thank you Congressman Ralph Hall, (R) Rockwall Texas.
…what was that sound..I thought I just heard? It sounded very much like a gravy train hitting the buffers. Now that is a sound I could get used to hearing. Its merely a start on the long road to cutting the flood of money being directed at climate ‘science’ at the very least but damn good to hear for all that.
[snip – can be misconstrued, feel free to resubmit – Anthony]
If they’re short on personnel, maybe they should ask everyone to stop blogging on RC during work hours.
As someone who has lived in San Antonio for 16 out of the past 22 years I can honestly say that most of the time San Antonio and the rest of South Texas does not need any weather forecasters. (The forcastYes, on about 20 days or so a year we had interesting weather, but the rest of the time it is boring and predictable… I think that there is some fat that can be cut. Look at the current forecast, how many guys do you need to say…
“Today it will be sort of cloudy with a high around 80.”
“Tonight mostly cloudy with a low around 60.”
“Tomorrow it will be partly of cloudy with a high around 81.”
“Wednesday night will be mostly cloudy with a low around 60.”
“Thursday will be partly sunny with a high around 83.”
“Thursday night will be mostly cloudy with a low around 62.”
It goes on and on and on until the next front or dry-line forms or there is a tropical system. You can see those coming for days, only the govt pays for people to sit on their hands and wait for something to happen.
These institutions are not going to roll over to a group of anti-science politicians
They seem quite quick to roll over for a group of pseudo-science and non-science politicians and activists.
Brian says:
April 12, 2011 at 11:48 am
Climate change observations will continue under the NOAA, they just won’t call it the “Climate Service.” It’s quite important that they continue this research. These institutions are not going to roll over to a group of anti-science politicians, I’m sorry.
One wonders how one makes ‘climate change observations‘ ? Surely, an observation can only be of weather?
Perhaps these politicians are actually pro-science and want to keep a separation between the ‘climate church’ and State.
Brian says:
April 12, 2011 at 11:48 am
“Climate change observations will continue under the NOAA, they just won’t call it the “Climate Service.” It’s quite important that they continue this research. These institutions are not going to roll over to a group of anti-science politicians, I’m sorry.”
Explain why, exactly, one wants known fraudsters doing important research?
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“Brian H says:
April 12, 2011 at 11:52 am
And what about Goddard Institute of Space Studies? Weren’t they to be told to get out of climate and back into space? That would entail a complete restaffing (starting with Hansen) since they have no one left who knows space as anything more than a sink for OLW!”
And this would be a bad thing, how, exactly?
“Here is the dream website of the NOAA Climate Service”
Hahaha….you mean, wet dream….as in it rained on their parade, we threw water on the idea, we quit carrying their water, or perhaps more appropriately, the well ran dry.
This news just made my day.
Make the staffing cuts mostly in administrative personnel and re-think your business model to change some aspects to contract services delivered via private contractors.
Joe and Joe at Weatherbell would be happy to make you some sort of offer that could cut out a chunk of inefficient public servant with pension plan liabilities and replace it with a tailor-made package, and make a tidy profit in the process.
Other outfits would also bid on any possible contract, competition is good for the taxpayer, and contracts can be written with penalty clauses for non-performance to agreed standards of service.
Just saying, “there’s more than one way to skin a cat”.
Matthew;
Where do you get the inference that I implied it was bad? I was gloating, actually.
mitchel44 says:
April 12, 2011 at 12:52 pm
As far as I am concerned, Joe & Joe @ur momisugly Weatherbell could replace a large portion of NOAA and do a better job for far less, specifically the front end of it (forecast).
Actually, I think your URL is wrong.
The real dream website of NOAA Climate Service is http://www.climate.gov.
You’ll all love the Global Climate Dashboard.
page 4. “climate change funding bill-wide is cut by $49 million (-13%)”, well at least its something.
While I think that Nasa has a role in remote sensing, it would be about time for Hansen to take a walk too.
Let’s get real….
thirty flights and the cone of death is from Rio to New York….
…..ten flights, and the cone of death is from Rio to New York
Flying into a hurricane more often does not help one bit…………
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“Now, NOAA can get back to essential services like severe weather warnings, hurricane hunting, and fisheries.”
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I’ve worked for one of those for over 30 years…..
….it’s an even bigger mess and just as crooked