The other embarrassing AGW story this week

Of course, the big news this week had to do with the unbelievably vile and stupid video produced by the carbon reduction activist group 10:10 this week. But in its shadow, was another embarrassing news item the you’d think the green crowd would also want to denounce and distance from. Joe Romm and Bill McKibben have announced they detest the 10:10 video. Good for them, that’s the right thing to do, and I applaud them for doing it.

But Joe couldn’t resist his urges to get some licks in with his usual flaming rhetoric, making sure that his readers get reinforced with the message: 10:10 video bad, Watts bad. That’s not a surprise, as it is his standard predictable MO. Mr. Romm is as easy to forecast as DC summer weather; hot, muggy, with a chance of storms.

Due to the uproar over the 10:10 video, this story got rather buried in the climate news cycle. It is almost as embarrassing as the 10:10 video, because, well, who would want this guy to align with their cause?

An audio recording attributed to the al-Qaeda leader and broadcast on the internet yesterday expresses concern about the devastating floods in Pakistan and calls on Muslims to provide relief for the victims.”The number of victims caused by climate change is very big… bigger than the victims of wars,” says the recording.

If genuine, the recording would be Bin Laden’s first since March 25.

It was not clear when the tape was made, but Bin Laden congratulated Muslims on the holy fasting month of Ramadan which ended September 10.

“The catastrophe (in Pakistan) is very big and it is difficult to describe it,” the recording says.

“What we are facing… calls for generous souls and brave men to take serious and prompt action to provide relief for their Muslim brothers in Pakistan.”

The recording makes a series of recommendations to deal with climate changes namely preventive measures that should be taken by governments in the face of disasters.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world/osama-bin-laden-concerned-about-climate/story-e6frfkyi-1225933068301#ixzz11DEnKFBB

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Given the events of this week, do the proponents of AGW really want to have OSBL, a man who kills people for having a differing view than him, as an ally for their cause? Do they really want an ally with a world voice that confuses weather with climate?

Note and update: Some people misunderstood my intent, that’s my fault for not writing clearly in the first place, and I accept the criticism for that and offer my apology if I unduly offended anyone. This was simply a case of writing something, then realizing that people were seeing it completely differently than I intended. I’ve removed the lines above that caused the issue and added this clarification below:

In case somebody misunderstands, it should be clearly understood that it is not my intent to compare these AGW proponents to OSBL in any possible way. I only want to point out that like with the 10:10 fiasco, AGW proponents that don’t want this sort of bad publicity connected with their movement, IMO should distance themselves and their organizations from OSBL.

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PJB
October 2, 2010 6:11 pm

This could be spun either way so it will end up being a non-issue.
Besides, the rabid attack dogs do not need any meat on the bone to gnaw away….

Douglas Dc
October 2, 2010 6:14 pm

Ironic- this is a man who has no problem to blow people up who disagree
with him….
I was hoping he was reduced to a greasy spot on the side of a cave
in Tora Bora…

Jimash
October 2, 2010 6:16 pm

“What we are facing… calls for generous souls and brave men to take serious and prompt action to provide relief for their Muslim brothers in Pakistan.”
Well usually in this world, when people ned such help the generous souls are the US & UK, and the brave men the Marines and Sailors and Soldiers of said initialed countries .
But…
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/10/01/outrage-intensifies-pakistan-nato-strikes-militants-attack-fuel-trucks/

So if he is so charitable, let HIS troops do the work.
Vote vote vote vote, these idiots out of our house.

Owen
October 2, 2010 6:17 pm

This is about as ridiculous a reach as any I have seen. A little bit like Sarah Palin and her “palling around with terrorists.” I would expect more from this site.

Jantar
October 2, 2010 6:19 pm

Perhaps this story should be kept in the public arena by referring to OSBL as a “Climate Change Spokesperson”.

Andrew W
October 2, 2010 6:20 pm

Good on you Anthony, we need to get a link going in peoples minds between Bin Laden and the likes of Romm and McKibben.
REPLY: It is not my intent to compare them, I only want to point out that like with the 10:10 fiasco, AGW proponents that don’t want this sort of bad publicity, should distance themselves. I’m going to add that to the body of the story so it is clear. – Anthony

DJ Meredith
October 2, 2010 6:22 pm

OSBL wants to disrupt western civilization at any cost. He’s very intelligent, and he kn0ws what a farce AGW really is, and what an economic disaster it will deliver if western governments implement expensive and unproductive climate related policies.
What better way to help us destroy ourselves than endorse the climate change fearmongering? It is fearmongering, and that’s what OSBL is best at.
The greenies will squeel for joy with this pronouncement…They’ll all proclaim!”See? Even terrorists are worried about climate change!”

Daniel M
October 2, 2010 6:27 pm

You’ve got to hand it to Osama for being wily; he’s positioning his people for a piece of the BIG REAPPORTIONMENT.
The precursor of this was Obama’s apology tour and his constant support of the (wealthy) polluters reparations to the victims of climate change. Obama is ready to lead the rest of the Western World in paying for the shame of their wealth production. The dinner bell is ringing, and Osama is simply showing that he’s not bashful enough to lose his place at the feeding trough.

Jimash
October 2, 2010 6:33 pm

The greenies will squeel for joy with this pronouncement…They’ll all proclaim!”See? Even terrorists are worried about climate change!”
They might. I say propagandizing population intimidators seek their own level.
And Osama’s conversion the AGW is somehow not surprising.
And hey, y’all can mod out my previous comment if deemed too harsh.

rbateman
October 2, 2010 6:34 pm

10:10 did not escape Fox News:
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/10/02/climate-change-group-apologizes-violent-video
and in the comments for that page neither did OSBL’s climate change stance.
Word gets around. People know what’s going on.

rbateman
October 2, 2010 6:39 pm

btw… I believe this isn’t the first time OSBL has endorsed climate change.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/29/osama-bin-laden-climate-change

barbarausa
October 2, 2010 6:41 pm

Well, there IS one thing both seem to have in common: a sincere desire to return to a medieval condition, by any means they deem necessary.

Tim
October 2, 2010 6:42 pm

As confirmed by both Bhutto and Musharraf, OSBL apparently died in December, 2001 from natural causes. He remains ‘alive’ as a convenient PR weapon, in this case connecting weather to AGW. I’ll be convinced only when he makes a personal appearance on camera.

Andrew W
October 2, 2010 6:43 pm

DJ Meredith says:
October 2, 2010 at 6:22 pm
The greenies will squeel for joy with this pronouncement…They’ll all proclaim!”See? Even terrorists are worried about climate change!”
I’m not a greenie, but, in your wet dreams.

David Davidovics
October 2, 2010 6:44 pm

First reaction is to laugh but thinking closer about it…….
All crazed movements were popular at one time in their history. Eugenics was popular around the world for many years before it was finally used as a political tool and taken to it’s “logical end” (rather, one of many possible interpretations). Granted there could have been other ways as well but genocide was still the result and likely it was only a matter of time before some one else did it. History makes note of what hitler did, but often glosses over what other nations did before war broke out. Eugenics was a global, popular movement and continued to quietly influence policy well into the post war era.
What global climate alarmism needs right now is a single voice or nation to unite the bafoons like the ones that made the “no pressure” video into a true powerful, and calculated movement. Al Gore was supposed to be that person but as it turns out he has the leadership and political reflex talents of an egg plant when not under supervision of his handlers, so he is out.
Bin Laden is not the one to lead a holy war against global warming either. The reaction from alarmists will probably be dead silence. Actually I do still find it a little funny that some one is trying to keep the torch burning for al qaeda by playing the global warming card. Its pathetic.

Andrew W
October 2, 2010 6:54 pm

Anthony, I’m trying to work out what sort of comment you expect from Romm etc.
“OSBL is a baddie, we don’t endorse his concerns about AGW”?
Well, that wouldn’t make sense as obviously Romm is concerned about AGW.
“OSBL is a baddie, we share his concerns about AGW, but we don’t endorse his terrorist attacks”?
Do they really need to say that? If they don’t make such a statement are sceptics going to suspect that they do endorse OSBL’s terrorism, or at best, that they are indifferent to such acts of terrorism?

Jimash
October 2, 2010 6:57 pm

” He remains ‘alive’ as a convenient PR weapon, in this case connecting weather to AGW. ”
Absurd . What purpose would that serve ?
Greening up the Truthers ?
Get silly, that would be an improvement.

Pamela Gray
October 2, 2010 6:59 pm

Non story. Dozens and dozens of people make stupid comments about floods. That Osama adds his voice makes him one of the dozens you can buy for a dime.

Theo Goodwin
October 2, 2010 7:00 pm

PJB said it already, but it bears repeating. The pro-AGW crowd is packed full of attack dogs. That fact does not speak well for people who claim to be scientists. The chief character trait of the true scientist is humility. The late Richard Feynman is a good example. But, as we all know, the pro-AGW crowd consists almost entirely of people who are interested in policy and who will sacrifice science for the sake of policy. They would make good communists.

Henry chance
October 2, 2010 7:05 pm

OSBL is all for something that will damage the west. He did want the attack of Wall Street to be a financial pain.

tats
October 2, 2010 7:05 pm

In my opinion Tim is right. OBL has been gone a long time. Maybe even longer.

Traciatim
October 2, 2010 7:08 pm

W:
Don’t be so quick to dismiss the greenies embracing that “Even terrorists are worried . . .”
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/10/bin-laden-floods-climate.php
and I quote:
“Even a guy in a cave can tell that climate change is happening now and that it is having horrible effects. In this case, the guy in a cave is Osama Bin Laden . . . “

Brian G Valentine
October 2, 2010 7:10 pm

Perhaps if Joe Romm considered becoming a Democrat challenger to Obama’s nomination for the next Democratic Party Presidential candidate, then Osama might consider giving Joe an endorsement.
Alarm ringers like Hillary who connected Pakistani flood devastation with AGW seem to be rather rather mum about the fact that they that they managed to convince Osama.
I’m not real sure if she would take pride in this achievement or not.

October 2, 2010 7:12 pm

Anthony, notwithstanding your objection, Andrew W correctly gets your intention when he writes in a comment above:
“Good on you Anthony, we need to get a link going in peoples minds between Bin Laden and the likes of Romm and McKibben.”
As I remark in my post, both you and Romm have no problem playing the guilt-by-association card:
http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2010/10/02/bin-laden-and-anthony-watts/
REPLY: And Keith Kloor thinks he knows exactly what people were thinking when they wrote something. Congrats on creating a problem for yourself Keith. – Anthony

R. Craigen
October 2, 2010 7:12 pm

Anthony, I have an OT concern about ad activity on your site. [snip, yes OT, and I have no control over Google Ads, wordpress.com provides links with them through a cooperative agreement – Anthony]

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