MOSCOW, April 23 (UPI) — A Russian scientist says the Arctic may be getting colder, not warmer, which would hamper the international race to discover new mineral fields.
An Arctic cold snap that began in 1998 could last for years, freezing the northern marine passage and making it impassable without icebreaking ships, said Oleg Pokrovsky of the Voeikov Main Geophysical Observatory.
“I think the development of the shelf will face large problems,” Pokrovsky said Thursday at a seminar on research in the Polar regions.
Scientists who believe the climate is warming may have been misled by data from U.S. meteorological stations located in urban areas, where dense microclimates creates higher temperatures, RIA Novosti quoted Pokrovsky as saying. “Politicians who placed their bets on global warming may lose the pot,” Pokrovsky said.
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Da! (Sorry, just wanted to be first up)
Scientists who believe the climate is warming may have been misled by data from U.S. meteorological stations located in urban areas
These russians are well informed! They are reading WUWT, and the great work of http://www.surfacestations.org is trascending all frontiers.
If anybody knows cold, it’s the Russians.
As best I know, the Russians don’t have a dog in the AGW fight, other than a strategic interest in how the rest of the world can wreck their economies by taxing carbon, so I think their researchers are probably less likely to be looking for a predetermined outcome.
What irony! The Russians have embraced empirical scientific standards, while our elites have embraced the scientific standards of Lysenko!
Do you have the link on the original story?
While consensus never has been a good proxy for scientific reality, it is good to see some sensible observations coming in to verify the good work you and others have done to highlight the observational bias that appears to be at best slipshod and at worst political manipulation.
These guys are right at the whiplash end of the weather/climate variations and as such should be taken seriously IMO
Caption competition
Scientists who believe the climate is warming may have been misled by …
…METAR data
or
…hidden decline
Well Enneagram (12:40:58), I was going to comment, but you put it pretty succinctly there already.
Several comments:
1. Arctic temperatures coming down; CO2 levels increasing. It’s all caused by Polar SUVs.
2. Check out the last sentence. Politicians soon will not have a “pot to pee in”. I love Russian humor.
I recall a scientist from the Russian Academy of Sciences said in a news conference back in 2005 that the world was in for a protracted cooling trend lasting 20-30 years, contrary to the popular opinion forwarded by things like “An Inconvenient Truth.” I wonder if this report is from the same or different researchers.
God bless the Russkies! They’ve been saying, “Nyet!” for quite a while now… And the warmistas ignore them at their peril just like they ignore India and China. Consensus? Not on this planet and not on Lenin’s Birth/Earth Day either…
I’m sorry, I simply don’t believe it. After all, Al Gore, the famous inventor of the Internet, told us that the Arctic would be ice free within five years. Those Russians simply don’t know what they are talking about.
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Ray:
here it is in german;
http://de.rian.ru/science/20100423/126040500.html
Which I summed up in ENGLISH here:
http://pgosselin.wordpress.com/
Note how the UPI left out some inconvenient parts
…an Arctic cold snap that began in 1998…
Buh-buh-but what about the melting muskeg releasing all that methane? And the vanishing ice cap, and polar bears bursting into flames?
Darn pragmatic Rooskies, looking at actual temperatures instead of computer models!
With the coming economic recovery, we will see an increase in the rate of growth of CO2 emissions. Since some folks think that the temperature increase is proportional to the rate of increase of CO2, I am betting that we will see warming again.
When a Russian says its going to get a little cold its time to pack your bags and fly South (well, as far as the Equator;-)
You don’t think he’s just trying to scare us do you?
Anyone know the exchange rate for Peso’s?
I don’t see any indication that Arctic temperatures are coming down significantly.
Russians are smart. They have a lot of icebreakers and experience. This in not armchair stuff for them. They were not joking when they accused some warmists of fudging data and temps that came from Russia.
Our carbon crisis cartel will not regain their trust.
They may have more than one northerly station and they probably don’t use METAR.
Lon Hocker (13:15:31) :
With the coming economic recovery…
Thus I immediately knew your post was meant to be humorous.
“Politicians who placed their bets on global warming may lose the pot,” Pokrovsky said.
No, they won’t lose their pot – they’ll just have to grow it further south.
The quiet Sun of 2009, the late stuttering start to Solar Cycle 24, the cold winter of 2009/2010 with the record negative Arctic Oscillation off the scale for December, January and February points to a long, cold retreat from COP-16 that Stalin would appreciate. The Russian report is a suitable portent to mark Lenin’s birthday.
An unrelated comment.
See link below for the latest global warming attributed crisis. We are all doomed. Again. Watch that fungus.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63L66H20100422?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a49:g43:r4:c0.117647:b33256336:z0
With better economic times, will concern for climate change rebound? Will people see Cap And Trade as more affordable and therefore less objectionable when jobs recover? Or has skepticism really taken hold?