This headline in the Sunday Daily Mail is quite something:
People often note strange ad placement from the Google adwords at WUWT. Seems it’s a global problem.
WUWT readers may recall another prominent climate scientist who mentions “no statistically significant warming since 1995”. See this previous WUWT story:
A note from Richard Lindzen on statistically significant warming
It is quite interesting that Jones says the same thing.
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are you kidding me!?!?!?!!!!!
what will the trolls do now??
I thought there was no MWP? Now the debate is if the MWP was as warm as today or not?
Does anyone remember what the reaction was to Richard Lindzen claiming “no significant rise in temperature since 1995”? I’m willing to bet that Jones won’t get the same reaction…
The truth shall out.
All we need now are the true temps for 1900-1978.
Phil Jones – If you tell the truth and truly repent of your sins – I forgive you.
The rest of you bloody hypocrites please follow suit.
Yesterday (13 Feb), the BBC published a question and answer session between Harrabin and Jones at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8511670.stm . To me, the most interesting exchange was this:
Q – If you agree that there were similar periods of warming since 1850 to the current period, and that the MWP is under debate, what factors convince you that recent warming has been largely man-made?
A – The fact that we can’t explain the warming from the 1950s by solar and volcanic forcing . . .
I find this amazing. Jones appears to be saying that the only reason for accepting the idea of AGW is that he can’t think of anything else. Apart, presumably, from the basic physics of CO2, he suggests no theoretical mechanism, no observed processes, no testable hypothesis at all.
No prosecuting counsel would dare to appear in court with a case founded on such an inadequate idea – essentially, ‘the accused person must have done it because we haven’t been able to find anyone else who might have’.
Is this really a fair summary of the AGW case?
Beautiful!
Climategate is simply the gift that keeps on giving. 2010 is the year we finally get to stick a fork into the AGW scam.
Congratulations Anthony, and all the other voices of reason. It was a long and closely-fought battle, but victory is sweet….
It’s a wonder what contemplating suicide will do to bring one to their senses.
Maybe the December gardening time has brought home the truth Chez Jones.
🙂
I think you’ll find the Google adsense was triggered by “stick” and “warmer”, and ironically warmists will be wanting to take a stick to poor old Phil for making that concession…
Looks like the crumbling AGW dam is about to burst.
Jones seems to have come to the conclusion that his only alternative to admitting fraud is to adopt the defence of the absent minded professor. “I could prove that to you, I think, if I could just find my notes. If only the dog hadn’t eaten the data. The code? Well you would have to ask Harry about that. I’m a scientist, not a computer mechanic.”
Abandon hope, all ye who enter here.
As you read through the DailyMail Online you’ll see
there’s the bullet points, and then there’s some following “take back” to
keep the disappointed Real Climateers and Warmistas from screaming
threats at Mr. Jones as some activists did to Mr. Hansen in January.
It appears the good Dr. Jones would rather been seen boardng the bus
rather than wait to be tossed under the proverbial wheels of justice and
the opinion of history.
No matter how the story is softened, lot’s of folks are left holding the
one-cat-lighter bag.
Has Government lost control of The Masses ?.
Anthony, if there was an olympic event for finding flaws in scientific reasoning, you would be a contender.
Meltdown of global warming! Read all about it!
Any bets that over at “The other field post office” (RC, Tammy-boy, etc, etc), any mention of this heresy will be firmy censored?
Especially after their great statistician, Tamino himself, posted that it wold need 11 years to be statistically significant.
Is it April 1st in England?
Could this be the end of the global warming scam? Will we see some people go to jail? Will Al Gore return his con money?
David M
What can one say? One desperately hopes that a few others ‘fess up to their respective parts in this corporate stupidity, too. But I won’t hold my breath. BBC, are you there? A little back-pedaling, if you please. I thank you…
>>People often note strange ad placement from the
>>Google adwords at WUWT. Seems it’s a global problem.
Romantic dates powered by KY eh? Well that should lubricate the romantic evening a little !!!
On a more serious note, I have tried to add my comments to the Mail page, but with no luck after 3 hours. They must have a lot of comments to moderate.
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Yowza!
I wonder if he’ll get called a flat-earther, the way I got called a flat-earther for saying, four years ago, exactly what he is saying now.
Truly this is a defining moment in history. Hats off to you and all the other dogged sceptic bloggers to take on the might of the UN, Western Governments, and the so-called scientific orthodoxy, to bring down this hoax.
I should really like to see the e-mail back and forth amongst the CRU/NASA crowd that this piece has no doubt provoked.
Yes. Now that Jones has pronounced that the four periods of modern warming are statistically indistinguishable, we have a real problem. We cannot give the explanation of rising CO2 for the first three, so there’s no reason to invoke it for the last. But it gets worse. Each such previous episode was followed by cooling, and we cannot explain that either.
We know that its not warming, we know that extreme weather events are not getting any more common, we know that droughts are not increasing, we know the ice is not melting, ocean heat content is not rising, sea levels are not rising any faster than they have for 100s of years, glaciers are not shrinking at any rate which was unusual in the last warming episodes.
Then, if we look further back, and again from the Jones interview, it gets worse still. We now have a re-admitted Medieval Warm Period to contend with, on which it turns out that the science is not after all settled. And what is yet worse still, a cooling after it which the models have no way of explaining. And then there is an RWP…
If you look at the history of the last 2,000 years, you have to choose between two explanations of periodic warmings. During these warmings we get rising temperatures, some Arctic melt, some glacier retreat, increased crop yields, longer hotter summers.
One explanation would be that climate fluctuates about a rough mean, for reasons that we do not understand. But it is either random or caused by something we have not yet discovered. The second would be that the current warming episode is caused by the combination of CO2, and also of positive feedbacks which did not manifest themselves earlier in response to the earlier warmings.
The second explanation could be true. It could be true that this time its different. But it needs a bit more than wild rants about denialism to convince anyone, in view of these concessions.
If you are trying to think of an analogy, think medically. If we had a well documented historical account of outbreaks of some disease a couple or three times a century, we did not know why, and someone gives an explanation in terms of a factor which we know for sure was only present during the last and most recent one. What would it take to show he is right? An awful lot. He really would have to show that ‘this time its different’. Pretty tough.
Go to jail.
Go directly to jail.
Do not pass go.
Do not collect 200 million in grant money.