Australia’s Duplicated Temperature and Rainfall Data: What the Bureau Missed

By Patrick Lloyd

In a statement issued on 22 October and updated on the 26th, the Australian Bureau of Meteorology answered Tom Berger’s audit of Australia’s raw temperature record. It confirmed “a small number of duplicated historical daily temperatures” in four post-1910 months relevant to ACORN-SAT, its adjusted national series: “fewer than 200 daily values”, which it said it had corrected. It added:

“Further investigation has detected no further duplicate months in the entire bureau network other than those quoted in the report and then confirmed by us.”

I keep a full copy of the Bureau’s public daily data: every station’s raw maximum, minimum and rainfall, downloaded from Climate Data Online. I took one copy in May and another on 29 and 30 October. That let me check two things: whether there are other copied months, and exactly what the Bureau changed.

There are more copies

I searched every station’s raw daily maximum and minimum for stretches that repeat another stretch of the same record, day for day, exactly or (in one case) to within rounding. Then I checked each one against neighbouring stations to see which block was the original and which was the copy.

The result is 44 copied stretches at 15 stations, 978 days in all. They run from 1861 to 1981. Thirty-two of them, 640 days, are still in the files the Bureau publishes today. Some examples, all downloaded from the Bureau on 29 October:

  • Cairns: December 1950 maximums are a copy of January 1950, and the minimums match too.
  • Toowoomba: February 1981 maximums repeat February 1982.
  • Charleville: August 1914 maximums repeat September 1914.
  • Weeaproinah (Victoria): February 1975 maximums repeat February 1974.
  • Inverell: April to June 1875 and the same weeks of 1878 are identical.
  • Bathurst Gaol: January 1862 minimums repeat December 1861.
  • Sydney Observatory Hill: 13 days in October 1890 are identical to the same days in November 1890, maximum and minimum.

None of these is in Tom Berger’s audit, so the Bureau’s exception for duplicates “quoted in the report” does not cover them. “No further duplicate months in the entire bureau network” is not true of the data the Bureau publishes. It may be true of ACORN-SAT, the adjusted record, which takes in only part of the raw record. If that is what the Bureau meant, it should say so.

What the Bureau actually changed

Between my May and October downloads, 593 temperature values disappeared from the raw files. Twenty-two of them are routine revisions to 2025 and 2026 data. The other 571 are at just two stations: Sydney Observatory Hill (515) and Charleville (56). No other value before 2000 was removed. One was added: a maximum of 0.0°C for Sydney on 25 June 1865, flagged as quality-checked, in a month the Bureau had just emptied. The copies at Cairns, Toowoomba and the rest are still there, and so are the ones at the two stations it fixed: Sydney’s October 1890 and Charleville’s August 1914.

Where the Bureau deleted one month of a copied pair, it deleted the right one: the copy, by my neighbour test. But for seven of the eight Sydney pairs before 1910 (the eighth, October/November 1890, is untouched), it deleted both months, the copy and the original. If one month in each pair is genuine, as one would expect, roughly 200 genuine readings went with the copies. For two of them my neighbour test can tell which month is genuine: May 1883 and November 1905. Both are gone.

The Bureau also says it “does not overwrite or delete original temperature observations when producing ACORN-SAT”. That may be so, but the published raw record has now had 571 values removed, and the statement doesn’t list them. The only way to find out was to compare downloads, as I did.

A seven-day match still inside ACORN-SAT

Sydney’s minimums for 25 to 31 January 1910 are identical to those for 1 to 7 February 1910, seven values to a tenth of a degree, with the days either side different. Tom Berger’s audit identified it. It is not among the 44 above because seven days is too short to clear the statistical bar I set for a national search, but it has every appearance of a copy. That week is still in the raw file, and ACORN-SAT keeps both weeks. ACORN-SAT adjusts January and February by different amounts, so in the adjusted record the two no longer match exactly. Apart from the last five days of Charleville’s copied August 1914, where ACORN-SAT’s record resumes after a gap, it is the only such match I have found inside ACORN-SAT. Seven days at one station make no measurable difference to any trend. If it is a copy, the Bureau’s check of ACORN-SAT missed it.

The rainfall is worse

The Bureau’s statement was about temperature. So I ran the same kind of search on every daily rainfall record on Climate Data Online, all 17,898 stations, looking for stretches that repeat another stretch of the same station’s record exactly, to the 0.1 mm. To make sure I wasn’t counting chance matches, I ran every search again on control data built to contain no real copies (the same series shifted by a few days, or read backwards). Nothing in those controls passed the bar.

The result: 1,337 copied stretches at 1,191 stations, in every state. Together they cover 61,877 days, 13,964 of them with rain. The rain days alone are about 70 times the “fewer than 200 daily values” the Bureau reported for temperature. They run from the 1860s to this year, peaking in the 1970s and 1980s, and 60 are from 2000 or later. The Bureau put its temperature copies down to hand-digitised records from before 1946. Copies from this century can’t be explained that way.

Some of them are long. At Muresk in WA, 381 of the 402 days from January 2007 to February 2008 are identical to the corresponding dates six years later. At Iawakia, also WA, most of 1984 matches 1981. At Bagdad in Tasmania, August to December 1903 matches the same months of 1904.

The copies are marked as checked. More than 97% of the copied stretches carry nothing but the Bureau’s “Y” (quality-checked) flag, the same rate as genuine data. Its quality control didn’t catch them.

Repeated rainfall across batches of stations

One group stands out. At 22 stations in six states, rain from 1998, 1999 and 2000 has been written into 1980, 1990 and 1997: onto the same dates for the first two batches, and onto February to April 1997 for September and October 2000. Several stations share one exact offset in each batch, across state lines. That is not an observer copying the wrong page. It looks like a database operation.

Checking against neighbouring stations shows which block is real. Wherever it can be placed, it is the late-1990s rain that fits its own dates’ weather, and the earlier years that don’t. At Pokolbin in the Hunter, September 1980 now holds September 1998’s rain, including 24.2 mm on the 6th, when four nearby stations average about 0 mm. The earlier years sit inside otherwise continuous records. Whether genuine readings were overwritten or gaps were filled with another year’s rain, the public file no longer holds what fell on those days.

Other stations’ rain

Rainfall also turns up under the wrong station. 1,649 pairs of stations carry identical stretches on the same dates. Most are one gauge published under two numbers, or a return filed under a station number one digit off. But 47 pairs at least 50 km apart have no explanation I can find. Waterloo in Queensland and Krambach in NSW, 821 km apart, are identical for 358 of the 366 days of 1964. The rain fits Waterloo’s district, so Krambach’s 1964 record is Waterloo’s rain.

1,334 of 1,337 unchanged

I downloaded every rainfall station again on 30 October (17,896 of the 17,898 came through) and compared each, day by day, with my May copy. 1,334 of the 1,337 copies are still published unchanged. The other three are all recent and look like routine revisions. Nothing at all before 2000 has changed. The Waterloo–Krambach pair and the overwritten batches are still there.

Does it matter?

The copies touch a small fraction of the archive: by a neighbour-based estimate they carry a net excess of about 4,180 mm, against some 59 million mm held in the records of the 1,191 stations concerned. I have not quantified their effect on national rainfall trends. They don’t target droughts or floods, and they run backwards in time as often as forwards. Like the temperature copies, they look like data handling errors, not anyone’s agenda.

But for anyone who uses a single station’s record, it matters a great deal: farmers, flood and drought studies, insurers, water allocation. At those 22 stations, the 1980, 1990 and 1997 rainfall is another year’s rain, and the Bureau’s own flags say it has been checked.

What this is, and what it isn’t

To be fair to the Bureau: these look like clerical and data handling errors, not tampering. The temperature copies show no measurable lean warm or cool (15 warmer, 10 cooler, where the direction can be told). None is more recent than 1981, and ACORN-SAT, the series that carries Australia’s warming trend, excludes all of them bar the Sydney week and five Charleville days. The rainfall copies are a small fraction of the archive, and I have not quantified any effect on national trends.

But the Bureau’s statement is wrong on the facts:

  • There are further duplicate months, and most of them are still published.
  • “Fewer than 200 daily values” describes only the four post-1910 months relevant to ACORN-SAT. Correcting two stations removed 571 values from the published raw data, most of them pre-1910.
  • In fixing Sydney it deleted genuine nineteenth- and early twentieth-century readings, without saying which ones.
  • It fixed two temperature stations and left the rest. In rainfall, 1,334 of 1,337 copies are still published.

The raw record is the evidence everything else rests on. If errors are found in it, the Bureau should fix them all, in temperature and rainfall, publish a list of what it changed, and restore the genuine readings from the paper ledgers rather than deleting them.

Run it like an open-source project

There is a better way to look after a national record, and the software world worked it out decades ago. Open-source projects publish everything: the code, every change ever made to it, who made it and why. Anyone can find a bug, report it, and propose a fix. Fixes are reviewed in public, and nothing is quietly deleted.

Australia’s weather record could work the same way:

  • Scan and publish the originals. Every observation book, ledger and register the Bureau holds, as images anyone can download, so any digitised value can be checked against what the observer actually wrote.
  • Keep a public change log. Every value added, altered or removed, with the date and the reason. Right now the only way to find out what changed is to download the whole record twice and compare it, as I did.
  • Take corrections from anyone. A farmer with a family rain book, a historian with a newspaper weather column, a retiree with a spreadsheet. Give them a way to flag a problem, show their evidence, and see it resolved in the open.
  • Never delete, supersede. When a value turns out to be wrong, mark it and replace it, but keep the old one visible with a note. A record that can be silently edited can’t be trusted, even when the edits are right.

None of this is new. Scanning the ledgers is real work, but the tools for the rest already exist: Wikipedia, OpenStreetMap and Linux are all maintained this way, by thousands of volunteers, and they are better for it. Every copy described here was found by people working from home, using data anyone can download, and the Bureau’s own quality flags mark almost all of the rainfall copies as checked. Give them the original records, and they will help the Bureau reconcile and repair the rest.

I’m happy to share the full lists of copies, temperature and rainfall, with dates and stations, with the Bureau or anyone else who wants to check it.

Thanks to Tom Berger and Geoff Sherrington, whose audit started this.

Sources: the Bureau’s statement, bom.gov.au/news-and-media/the-science-and-truth-of-australias-long-term-temperature-record; Tom Berger’s audit, elastictruth.com/2026/07/a-forensic-analysis-of-systematic-data.html; the raw data, Climate Data Online, bom.gov.au/climate/data.

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November 1, 2026 2:36 pm

I agree that it looks like process error, not agenda. But if I recall correctly, didn’t it have one major impact, where a recent temperature was incorrectly called as a record high, with fanfare?

Patrick
Reply to  Mike Jonas
November 1, 2026 5:02 pm

Mike, not that I can find. None of the 44 temperature copies or the 1,337 rainfall copies falls on a record, and the copies go cool as often as warm, so they don’t move a trend. The one record-related casualty runs the other way: when the Bureau fixed Sydney, it deleted the genuine August 1907 minimums along with the 1867 copy, the month The Australian had verified from the ledgers. But the trend isn’t the only use of these records. Farmers, insurers, engineers and councils use the daily values at particular stations, for frost risk, design rainfall, flood studies and the like, and for them a copied month at their station is simply wrong data, whatever it does to a national average. That’s why I’d rather the originals were opened than the copies quietly deleted. If you have a particular record claim in mind, tell me which and I’ll check it against the list.

sherro01
November 1, 2026 3:13 pm

As a scientist observing BOM data since 1992 and as the lesser co-author of the report with Thomas Berger that has contributed to current press and public interest, I concede that demonstration of erroneous data generates interest but can have little effect on understanding of past climate and weather. That is the case for errors that have been discovered.
BOM should be criticised and asked to explain why these errors were discovered by members of the public in unpaid and voluntary capacities and not by BOM. In other branches of science, it has long been practice to do validation tests on the input data before using the data for outcomes such as to inform new political policies and legislation. The tests that we have publicised are easier to perform with a BOM supercomputer than with a personal computer. The methodology has been known for decades. Why did BOM not find these errors – or if BOM did find them, why did it not publish them and their management of them?
Questions arise as to motives. I have no insight into BOM motives. A big part of my career was in geochemistry, where validity of data is high in importance. If we knowingly used wrong data in some ways, like salting an emerging gold mine to raise money, we expected a jail term as a possible punishment.
I am concerned that after receiving the seminal Berger/Sherrington article, BOM failed to discern or admit that thousands of deficiencies described in the article were narrowed down in BOM public statements to less than 200 data days of insignificant effect on the record. I do not know exactly how many days of wrong data exist. This is because many of the errors like cop/paste duplications can be either natural or human made; statistics cannot always tell. But 31 consecutive days starting on the first day of a calendar month (Nature does not do calendars) exactly repeated in another month or year has high odds of being human. Ten days of copy also are likely human, but with lower odds of proof. By 3 days of copy, we stopped counting, though there were thousands of them. Not below 200. Also, most of my work was with only the 112 weather stations that BOM selected as among their best quality. Patrick Lloyd analyses many more stations and so his total counts are different.
BOM reaction to evidence of many errors can be read as if it is in damage control with BOM articles written by public relations people whose motive is to bury the matter with minimum harm and embarrassment. But that is my personal reaction, not that of colleagues.
In Science, it is traditional to use new information to advance the understanding of Science.
BOM should consider that path.
Geoff S

Reply to  sherro01
November 1, 2026 7:26 pm

I have no insight into BOM motives.

I do Geoff. A couple of years ago I listened to a talk from the CEO of the Bom.
It could just as easily have been from the president of the Greens, rife with fantasies about our glorious renewable future. One would presume that the BOM would not and should not be concerned with political issues but they were, and are, a huge motivation at that putrid organization.

Patrick
Reply to  sherro01
November 1, 2026 8:21 pm

Geoff, thanks, and the credit for getting this in front of the public is yours and Tom’s. On the counts: the difference isn’t the number of stations so much as where we draw the line. A 31-day block that starts on the 1st is human, no argument. At 3 days, a synthetic series with the real record’s day-to-day persistence and its rounding produces most of them (at Sydney, roughly 2,200 of the 2,700 three-day repeats), and I can’t tell which of the rest are human, so I don’t count any of them. That is why I report 44 temperature copies and 1,337 rainfall copies: each is longer than chance produces, and I’d defend every one individually. Counted that way they still cover more than 60,000 days, about 14,000 of them with rain, so “under 200 days” is the wrong answer from the Bureau either way, and nobody has yet explained why they were found on a laptop rather than a supercomputer.

Phillip Chalmers
November 1, 2026 4:03 pm

Call out to all you proud citizens of other states, nations, regions of the world – do your public records also contain evidence of alteration?
I suggest first looking at what the IPCC and others have used to “prove” their fossil fuel origin for modern warming; then go back to the raw data in the detailed and systematic way that the author here, and the previous whistle-blowers have done.
Recall, Tony Heller has for decades posted images of the reports in the press of the day from the relevant locales to contradict “crisis” and “extreme” media claims.
He has shown sufficient data for the folk in the local pub to smell a rat, wherever the pub may be!

November 1, 2026 7:08 pm

Harold The Organic Chemist Says:
For an Australia temperature check, I went to:
https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/countries/australia/average-temperature-by-year. The Thi and Tlo data from 1901 to 2024 are displayed in table. Here is a summary of selected data:
Year——-Thi——-Tlo——-Tav Temperatures are ° C
2024——29.7——15.9——22.9
1901——-28.6——14.5——21.6
Change—+1.1——+1.4——+1.2
Range Thi: 27.5–30.1
Range Tlo: 13.8–15.9
CO2 Concentration Data
2024: 423 ppm, 0.83 g CO2/cu. m of air
1901: 297 ppm, 0.58 g CO2/cu. m of air.
Increase in CO2 concentration: 43%

After 123 years the slight warming in Australia is within the natural temperature variation as shown the Thi and Tlo range data. Although the concentration of CO2 increased by 43%, this not cause any significant warming of the air. Note how little CO2 there is in the air.

The challenge is to use this empirical data to convince Premier Anthony A. and the Canberra Climate Cartel to abandon their draconian climate agenda and their goal of Net Zero by 2050.

NB: At the EWW website homepage, there are links in light blue to all of the weather station data in the NOAA and CRU databases.

sherro01
Reply to  Harold Pierce
November 1, 2026 8:27 pm

Harold The Organic Chemist,

I concentrated more on Physical Chemistry in undergrad years.
But we can be friends.
….
Question: Why are you advertising historic datasets when all or most are probably derived ultimately from the Australian CDO dataset curated by BOM which we discovered earlier this year to be not “raw, unaltered” but factually, inarguably, riddled with human adjustments?

An estimate today of the number of days in question is about 80,000.

So far as I am aware, these CDO temperatures are part of the chain of records that end up in NOAA and CRU datasets, so they are contaminated and NOT as written down by observers in the pre-electronic era. If your preferred datasets do not originate from CDO, what is their origin?

If you read the Berger/Sherrington article linked here, you will see why it appears unlikely that any existing dataset is uncontaminated and that this is deliberate work by people adjusting data from hundreds of weather stations, not occasional, sporadic observers bored on a bad day and filling in data gaps for something to do to justify their pay.

Geoff S

https://www.geoffstuff.com/V14_fullBOM.pdf

Reply to  sherro01
November 1, 2026 11:58 pm

As I mentioned, EWW use data from the NOAA and CRU databases, and I assume it has been checked it for quality. The comment I posted is written for lay people and politicians, and I try to keep it simple. Unfortunately no politician will ever read it.

I forgot to mention that the temperature data falsifies the claims by the corrupt IPCC and the unscrupulous collaborating scientists that CO2 causes “global warming” and is the “control knob of climate change”. Look what the fraudulent claims by IPCC have done the economies of the UK, Germany, Australia, the EU countries, and the states of California and New York. When are the scientists of your country going to come forth and explain to the people and politicians that CO2 does cause global warming?

November 1, 2026 8:40 pm

Harold The Organic Chemist Says:
ATTN: Patrick, Geoff and the Ozians
RE: No Warming At Alice Springs Since 1879!
For an Alice Springs temperature check, I went to:
https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/alice-springs/average-temperature-by-year. The Thi and Tlo data from 1879 to 2025 and from two weather stations are displayed in a long table. Here is a summary of selected data:

Alice Springs Intl. Airport: 1942–2025
Year——-Thi——-Tlo Temperature are °C
2025——30.3——13.4
1942——29.5——13.9
Change–+0.8—— -0.5
Range Thi: 27.0–30.6
Range Tlo: 9.7—15.7

The Old Post Office at Alice Springs: 1879–1941
Year——-Thi——-Tlo
1941——-27.5——12.7
1879——-28.8——11.9
Change— -1.3——+0.8
Range Thi: 30.1–30.9
Range Tlo: 21.1—22.2
CO2 Concentration Data
2025: 424 ppm, 0.83 g CO2/cu. m. of air.
1879: 280 ppm, 0.55 g CO2/cu. m of air.

After 146 years there has been only very slight warming at Alice Springs that is well within the natural variation as shown by the Thi and Tlo range data. The airport is warmer than at the Old Post Office as might expected since there is much concrete at the air port and jet plane traffic. Note how little CO2 there is in the air. Alice Springs is located in a semi-arid desert.

This empirical data should convince Premier Anthony A. and the Canberra Climate Change Cartel to abandon their climate agenda and goal their goal of Net Zero by 2050.

NB: At the above URL temperature data for each month of a year is available.

Reply to  Harold Pierce
November 2, 2026 10:40 am

Correction for the Thi and Tlo range data for the Old Post Office weather station. The correct values are:
Range Thi: 26.6–30.7
Range Tlo: 11.6–14.7

Posted data are for a weather station in Indonesia.

sherro01
November 1, 2026 10:09 pm

Another thought.
Many researchers since year 2000 have published scientific papers about climate change in Australia as reflected by historic daily temperatures like thesevin CDO

A substantial number m

sherro01
Reply to  sherro01
November 1, 2026 10:26 pm

Sorry – start again.

Many researchers since about year 2000 have published scientific papers about climate change in Australia as reflected by historic daily temperatures like these in CDO.

A substantial number of days – estimates today of 80,000 are provided above – are under question. It appears plausible that some of these papers used an inferior dataset when a better one was known but not known to the public.

What is to be done? In a more collegiate world, would BOM use its supercomputer to recalculate all of these papers using the better set? I do not know if papers based on the worse set would lead to different conclusions. This casts a cloud over much of the popular public understanding of climate change. Surely this test must be done, because until then public policy and legislation about Australian warming and cooling is based on an unsafe dataset.

Geoff S

cementafriend
November 2, 2026 4:19 am

Thanks Patrick and Sherro,
I have looked at some temperatures. I have noted a change when BOM moved to electronic measurements from the liquid in glass thermometers. That to me was a jump to higher temperatures. I believe that temperature (min & max) is not an indicator of climate even if measured properly (due to daily & seasonal variations). By definition of climate areas precipitation is required eg defining a desert or tropics. Rainfall is much easier to measure by anyone and can not be easily fudged by political operators. What BOM has done is drop out stations to concentrated on newer stations at airports which need some weather measurements. That way they can easily claim a new record such as recently for October claiming a new record since 2017. I have 134 years of rainfall records in the area I live. An official station closed in 2000 and I copied the record in a spreadsheet. I checked records from surrounding stations (Sunshine Coast) of which there were many. I found in the month of October 1898 there was one day missing. This meant there was no total for that month and no total for the year. I estimated a value for the day which resulted in the year 1898 having a record year total of close on 4 metres. Since 2005 I have been making my own daily measurements and made daily and monthly estimates from surrounding stations between 2000 & 2005. I have made a statistical comparison been two official stations over about 40 years to find averages and standard deviations of monthly rainfall were identical. Then for the 134 years did a statistical check to find there is no trend and therefore no change in climate.
BTW as a chemical engineer with experience in heat transfer and thermodynamics I have proved that CO2 in the atmosphere can not warm the Earth’s surface and it can not act like a blanket.

Reply to  cementafriend
November 2, 2026 10:32 am

Harold The Organic Chemist Says:
The reason CO2 cannot cause any warming of the air is quite simple: There is very little CO2 in the air. At the Mauna Loa Obs. in Hawaii, the concentration of CO2 in dry air is currently 426 ppm. One cubic meter of this air has a mass of 1,290 grams and contains a mere 0.84 grams of CO2 at STP. This small amount of CO2 cannot absorb enough out-going long wavelength IR light to heat up such a large mass of air.

You should checkout the late John L. Daly’s website:
“Still Waiting For Greenhouse” available at http://www.john-daly.com. From the home page go to the end and click on: “Station Temperature Data”. On the “World Map” click on “Australia”. There is displayed a list of stations. Click on
“Adelaide”.

The chart show a plot of annual mean temperature from 1857 to 1999. In 1857 the concentration of CO2 was 280 ppm (0.55 g CO2 per cu. m. of air), and by 1999 it had increased to 368 ppm (0.72 g CO2 per cu. m. of air), but there was no increase in air temperature in this port city. Instead there was a slight cooling which began in ca. 1940. Brisbane had a similar cooling. In 1858 the annual mean temperature was 17.4° C and by 1999 it had declined to 16.7° C.

To obtain recent Adelaide temperature data, I went to:
https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/adelaide/average-temperature-by-year. The Thi and Tlo data from 1887 to 2025 are displayed in a table. The computed annual mean temperature was 17.4° C. After 167 years there has been no warming of the air in Adelaide. This empirical data falsifies the claims by the corrupt IPCC and the unscrupulous collaborating scientists that CO2 causes “global warming” and is the “control knob of climate change”.

If you the chart for Adelaide on screen, click on the back arrow to redisplay the list of stations. Check out the charts for all the stations. Click on the back arrow again for display of the “World Map”. John Daly found over 200 weather stations whose data showed no warming upto 2002.

Be sure to go the EWW home page at https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com. There are links in light blue to the weather and climate data from a great many weather stations located around all around the world. Use this URL for display of weather and climate data for a station:
https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/adelaide.

Reply to  Harold Pierce
November 2, 2026 10:46 am

CO2 cannot cause any warming 

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Reply to  Charles Rotter
November 2, 2026 12:58 pm

LOL! Why do you get to post a graphic and I can’t. Not fair!

There is chart of temperatures in Death Valley at John Daly’s website that I like to post when I explain the saturation of the absorption of IR light by CO2. Can I have back the attach image icon to comment? You kidnapped it awhile back and are holding it at an secret location in the Mojave desert.

BTW: Can you remove the “Waiting for Approval” tag?

Reply to  Harold Pierce
November 2, 2026 1:51 pm

Let me think abou…no.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
November 2, 2026 4:58 pm

Think harder!

Patrick
Reply to  cementafriend
November 2, 2026 12:47 pm

cementafriend, thanks. On the switch from mercury to probes I’ve measured it, on raw daily data, and found the opposite of a jump up. At 89 stations with a dated probe install, the maximum fell by 0.13 C against the stations still on mercury over the ten years after the switch (0.11 on the minimum), with no drift in the five years before it. Probe and mercury stations within 3 km of each other on the same days, 82 pairs and 218,000 days: the probe reads 0.12 C lower on the median day. The Bureau’s own 29 comparison sites, old manual screen beside the new AWS: 0.09 lower. Days at or above 40 C: 4,514 on the probes against 4,682 on the mercury beside them. Hottest day of the year: the probe read higher in 52% of 537 pair-years, a coin toss. And from 1996 to 2025 the stations that went to probes warmed at the same rate as those that stayed on mercury, or slower: 0.32 against 0.30 C a decade on the maximum, 0.21 against 0.25 on the minimum. Where a site move is documented within two years of the install the step runs from -1.2 to +0.4 C, so a jump seen at one station is usually the move, the screen or the observing time rather than the sensor. What the switch did do is strip the decimals: at 33 ACORN stations the AWS feed was archived as whole degrees for its first years, 78 windows and 80,000 days, most ending together in 2003. That inflates repeats and degrades the extremes, but they rounded rather than truncated (+0.02 C against neighbours), so the mean is untouched. If you tell me the station where you saw the jump I’ll run the same tests on it.

Fran
November 2, 2026 9:37 am

I had a student who could look at a column of numbers where one was a factor of 10 different from others an not notice. She was completely blind to the values of numbers in the same way that individuals can have dyslexia. Fixing the problems only took a week’s work doing chart reviews.

A colleague also had an innumerate student, very bright and headed to medical school. He recommended she consider radiology or pathology as a career path.

Correcting out of range and missing values is another way that error is introduced into data sets – ie, “My best guess is it was like ‘such and such'”

November 2, 2026 12:09 pm

While these changes may not affect the mean value, i. e. the center of gravity, of the distribution much, they can affect the variance significantly if they are in one of the tails. Especially if the distribution is skewed instead of Gaussian. Same for affecting the mode of a skewed distribution. This needs to be investigated as well.

I’m still not convinced that efforts to create ‘long records” aren’t more trouble than it’s worth. If the sampling density is sufficient then dropping a few records shouldn’t have a huge impact.

And it still doesn’t make temperature a good metric for “climate”.

John V. Wright
November 2, 2026 1:19 pm

Can we stop pussyfooting around the people responsible.

1: What is the name of the CEO of the BOM?
2: What does he/she say about this?

Thank you.