Am I a Conspiracy Theorist?

From THE DAILY SCEPTIC

By Tom Forrester-Paton

I ask this because of a recent email exchange with a person of considerable significance to me, who has wondered whether my opposition to climate catastrophism, and the anger I feel at the damage it is doing to our societies, have so obsessed me that I have become slightly detached from reality. It’s a good question.

Just as even paranoiacs can have enemies, so not every conspiracy theory is false. To give one recent example that less disagreeable people than I would prefer to forget: in the early weeks of the Covid epidemic, the idea that it resulted from a leak in a Wuhan lab engaged in gain-of-function research was dismissed as ‘conspiracy theory’, with an extra topping of ‘raycism’ thrown in for good measure. Half a decade on, nobody of any consequence seriously doubts the lab-leak theory of Covid’s origin, and Anthony Fauci, who acted as the high priest of Covid hysteria, finds himself in contempt of Congress after pleading the 5th no fewer than 111 times. He’s done so in response to questions aimed at clarifying his role in directing US funds towards gain-of-function research in the Wuhan lab – the very lab which, back in 2020, he had vehemently denied could be responsible for creating, and allowing the escape of, the Covid virus. Vehemently denied in public, that is, though thanks to the Washington hearings, his private email correspondence now reveals that he shared with confidantes his fear that a lab leak was indeed the source of the epidemic.

Still, my belief in the existence of a vast conspiracy of silence, encompassing the IPCC, most of the mainstream media, Google and the commanding heights of the political classes of the EU, the UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand to suppress any information, however authoritative its source, that might cast doubt on the need to ‘decarbonise’ their societies is certainly a big one, and it’s fair to question it.

So is my belief that climate alarmism began with a plausible hypothesis, but one which has since been emphatically disconfirmed. Not, however, before it had spawned an entire industry of grant funding, renewables grifting and organisational groupthink. And not before a culture had arisen to protect that industry, within which academics are rewarded with funding and peer approval, while dissidence is punished with ‘cancellation’ and penury.

Which brings me to the first reason to suspect that I may, after all, be quite sane. Because there are literally no social rewards for being a climate sceptic – and plenty of penalties. I can count on the fingers of one hand the people I know who share my scepticism about climate alarmism, let alone my anger at the damage it is doing. The sole reward for my position is the rather solitary one of being able to live with myself. Which is a good thing, because it’s certainly no way to make friends.

People’s reactions vary when they are confronted with my doubt that man-made ‘emissions’ are causing such damage to the planet that it makes good sense to impoverish our people, ruin our economies, hand the People’s Republic of China an industrial sword of Damocles with which to threaten us at a future time of its choosing, and to top it all off, deny the developing nations the finance they need to build the power infrastructure required to bootstrap their economies the way we, their erstwhile colonists, bootstrapped ours – because we have decided that we know better than they do what is best for them.

  • The true believers, and those with vested interests – for instance in the bottomless trough of renewables – are visibly angry, and accuse me of ignorance, or of being a habitué of something called Q Anon. (I’ve heard of Q Anon, but never quite fathomed what it is.)
  • The inner-city progressives, who haven’t a clue about the science underlying the supposed warming effect of CO2, but have been schooled to believe that adherence to the cult is a mark of civic virtue, tend to respond with that look of pity which the latter-day pharisee reserves for those he considers his moral inferiors.
  • Slightly less vexatious are those who pretend to engage with one’s arguments, but invariably fall back on the argument to authority – that is, that the overwhelming majority of the scientists to whose opinions they have been exposed think the alarmist hypothesis is sound. Of course the key words here are “to whose opinions they have been exposed”; few seem ever to have heard of Ian PlimerRoy SpencerRoger PielkeJudith Curry or William Happer, let alone the legion of less prestigious scientists who do not, in the main, reject the hypothesis that man-made contributions to atmospheric CO2 have a warming effect, but insist that this is mild, declines logarithmically with increasing concentration, poses no threat to planetary habitability, and may, in fact, enhance it, just as Svante Arrhenius, the physicist who first hypothesised that increasing CO2 levels, whether or not of anthropogenic origin, could warm the planet and increase its fertility, predicted. And why would they have heard of these scientists, when their most likely sources of news and information are dedicated to ensuring that their voices are never heard?

And it has to be said that the week in which Jason Arday has resigned his professorship at Jesus College, Cambridge is not a good one in which to try to persuade me that the academy is a place of irreproachable intellectual purity, committed to the dispassionate pursuit of truth. Trying to argue with these people is to be constantly reminded of Mark Twain’s aphorism that it is easier to fool a man than to convince him that he has been fooled.

  • A tiny minority greet my scepticism with a literal or metaphorical high-five, but precious few of even this meagre cohort are of a mind to join me in declaring the Emperor naked. As I said above, there are many penalties for doing so.

But why, the least unsympathetic of my interlocutors ask, am I so angry about all this? Why, their question implies, do I not just do what most people do – go along with the consensus, settle for a quiet life, and enjoy the social rewards of tribal membership that ensue? I’ll try to answer that question, but it’s a difficult one, since the more I think about why the climate hoax angers me, the angrier I get, and I don’t particularly enjoy being angry.

Most obviously, there are the direct costs of Net Zero. I’m not an economist, so I’m far from able to calculate the amount of money it is proposed to spend on ‘decarbonising’ the world economy. However, Bloomberg suggest that around US$200 trillion will need to be spent to achieve Net Zero by 2050. Since Bloomberg are noted cheerleaders for climate woo-woo in general, and Net Zero in particular, it’s likely that that is a substantial underestimate – but let’s play their silly game and just imagine what that figure, which equates to an annual expenditure (depending on the discount rate you use) of around $2.75 trillion per annum, really means.

$2.75 trillion per annum? What’s that to get angry about? I suppose it is, literally, an unimaginable sum of money – but let’s try and imagine it, by looking at what it could buy if it weren’t being simply evaporated on the altar of climate alarmism.

According to ChatGPT, it costs about US$5 million to design, build and equip a medium-sized hospital in Zimbabwe. Let’s take that as a rough-and-ready guide for the whole of sub-Saharan Africa. If that’s so, our $2.75 trillion would buy us 550 such hospitals. This exercise was fun, and to some extent made up for the mounting anger I experienced in performing it, so I continued, and came up with a short table of Stuff We Could Buy if the Greenies Weren’t Wasting All Our Money.

All costs in approximate US$.

I could go on, but you must surely get the picture. I had to check and recheck these numbers to make sure I wasn’t overstating them by a factor of ten. Please do the same, and tell me if I’m wrong. Frankly, even if I was, the numbers would still be staggering. And these are just the direct costs of Net Zero, estimated by an organisation with an avowed belief in climate catastrophism; to paraphrase Groucho Marx, if you don’t like them, much higher estimates are available. And don’t let’s kid ourselves that the major emitters of CO2 like China and India are going to cough up any of it.

But then there are the indirect costs.

Those economies which have most assiduously pursued Net Zero have all seen the cost of their energy soar, and their economies have paid the price. They have experienced growth, in per capita terms, barely distinguishable from zero. Such anaemic GDP growth as they have enjoyed is almost entirely acquitted by their immigration.

But the consequences of energy costs bloated by renewables subsidies, together with the exorbitant costs of taming all that free wind and sun so that it doesn’t crash the grid every ten minutes – oh, and did I mention the cost of paying renewables generators not to feed their electricity into the grid when there’s too much of it? Or the cost of keeping under-utilised (and therefore over-priced) fossil-fuel generation capacity in existence and on standby for the cold, still nights when there isn’t any renewable power at all? If I didn’t, I ought to have, even if it has the disagreeable effect of making me angrier than I already am.

This extraordinary self-harm project has had the effect of steadily eliminating what vestiges of heavy industry remained in Australia and the UK, and indeed wherever it is being seriously attempted, while handing to China the job of producing what we used to produce – something it does by burning coal – while cultivating a Potemkin renewables infrastructure with which to deceive the useful idiots of the West’s green movement into believing they are on board with this stuff. And to keep buying their solar panels and windmills, all of which were supposed to be made in the West as part of the preposterously named green revolution – remember that? But then, as my interlocutor implies, maybe this is all in my deranged head.

Of course, the Net Zero zealots will insist that not spending these scarcely credible sums will result in ‘climate damage’ that exceeds them – but then they would, wouldn’t they? Bjorn Lomborg, who goes significantly further than I do in acknowledging the damaging effects of anthropogenic CO2, and who, just as much to the point, has forgotten more about economics than I’ll ever know, has laid out in exhaustive detail why the money spent on Net Zero could be much better spent on adaptation to whatever climate changes actually eventuate (as opposed to those that exist only in the computer models of the climatariat), with oodles left over for some of those hospitals, schools, submarines, etc. (see above).

Lomborg’s pretty angry about it. Just think how angry he’s going to be when he bones up on a bit of atmospheric science and realises that there really is no ‘climate crisis’, and so the costs of adaptation will be no higher than they have been throughout the history of mankind.

So that’s one source of my anger. But it’s far from the only one.

The history of human betterment is essentially a story of people obtaining usable energy from increasingly dense forms of carbon. With the sole exception of hydro – a renewable of which I thoroughly approve – there are no examples of societies becoming richer, let alone attaining the sort of prosperity we in the West have come to expect, by adopting less energy-dense fuels. None. And as my mother was fond of saying, anyone who thought pre-industrial society had a lot going for it should imagine having toothache in the 17th century.

By the 19th century, Britain, the country where I was born, had become ‘the workshop of the world’ by successfully harnessing the energy density of coal, and was beginning to discover, thanks to the efforts of that much-maligned American titan John D. Rockefeller, the even denser energy to be had from oil. It had also developed institutions that safeguarded property, enforced contracts and rewarded merit. As a consequence, it was wealthier than any country in history. Its people enjoyed an increasing lifespan, and its Navy, nourished by a proto-meritocratic culture and supplied by a chandlery, armaments and victualling infrastructure that anticipated the standardisation and mass-production techniques that would come to define the industrial revolution, enabled it to project power globally. It was therefore all but inevitable that it should become the most successful coloniser in history.

This is not the place to debate the merits of the resulting British Empire, but it is, I think, vain to deny that those of its former colonies that most closely adhered to the model of governance it bequeathed to them have enjoyed the most favourable post-colonial outcomes. Compare New Zealand with Zimbabwe, or Singapore with Sierra Leone, if you want to see what I mean. With that said, though, no society, as I’ve said earlier, has ever attained the sort of prosperity we take – at our peril – for granted, without access to abundant, on-demand energy of the kind that only fossil fuels (with the sole exception of hydro) have been shown to deliver.

Climate alarmists flatter themselves that their neo-Malthusian Gaia-bothering is saving the planet, and by extension the people who inhabit it. They are the sort of people who wring their hands at the plight of sub-Saharan African countries. They can even be heard muttering about various forms of restorative justice, involving handing over huge sums of cash to the supposed victims of British Imperial rule.

Yet these people enthusiastically abet the policy of denying World Bank finance for fossil-fuelled energy projects in those countries – most of them in sub-Saharan Africa – which most need them. “Burning carbon gave us the prosperity you crave,” they say, “but now we have discovered that our wealth was built on two centuries of ecological vandalism, and have decided to repent. And you must repent with us, by seeking your own wealth on the back of this nice, shiny, but entirely theoretical and unproven renewables technology we’ve got for you. Well, when we say ‘we’, we mean some friends of ours. Connections are so important, don’t you know?”

Not only is this a futile ploy, since China, which has no qualms about burning coal, will happily build the power stations the pious West eschews, and will thereby extend yet further its baleful geopolitical influence – it is also insufferably condescending to the Africans concerned.

Cue more anger.

Because it seems to me that if you are going to try to stifle the economic development of a large number of people less fortunate than you, you ought to be damn certain of your reasons for doing so. To persist in such a policy when your hypothesis has been repeatedly disconfirmed, and with utter disregard for the wishes of the people upon whom you are imposing it, is staggeringly unethical – and that angers me. Greatly. I suppose that’s a conspiracy theory, in strict terms, but it’s not as though these bastards are shy about it – heck, they brag about it!

So where are we up to? We’ve covered the deindustrialisation of our spavined economies. We’ve covered the stifling of developing economies by artificially depriving them of the finance they need to, er, develop. We’ve covered the eye-watering rivers of cash being doled out in pursuit of these ridiculous goals. What’s left? I know – the complete absence of any democratic mandate. I mean, if all this were really such a good idea, you’d think its advocates would have the confidence to plead its case in Parliament. But no. Both in Australia, the UK and a dozen other countries, the climatariat so captured the governing elites that swathes of sociopathic legislation passed into law without effective parliamentary scrutiny.

Whatever you think about the case for decarbonisation, you surely must have misgivings about committing such vast sums of taxpayers’ money without the semblance of a debate. A good example of this occurred in the UK, when Theresa May, desperate to leave something on the statute books that would constitute a ‘legacy’, and draw some of the attention away from her otherwise catastrophic premiership, signed Britain up to ‘Net Zero by 2050’ using secondary legislation – that is, law-making by means not of a parliamentary vote, but by the exercise of powers conferred upon her by earlier legislation.

That pretty much wraps up my catalogue of conspiracy theories or, as I prefer to think of them, reasons for being incandescently angry at the whole shoddy business of climate alarmism. There is, however, just one more point I’d like to make, and it concerns the trashing of science.

Way back in 2009, when the world learned – but tried to pretend that it hadn’t – that a group of ‘scientists’ were conspiring to evade attempts to replicate their work by a number of means, including rigging peer review to exclude from major journals any papers which cast doubt on the alarmist narrative, Professor Michael Kelly, who served on the Oxburgh Committee investigating what became known as Climategate, wrote the following:

(i) I take real exception to having simulation runs described as experiments (without at least the qualification of ‘computer’ experiments). It does a disservice to centuries of real experimentation and allows simulations output to be considered as real data. This last is a very serious matter, as it can lead to the idea that real ‘real data’ might be wrong simply because it disagrees with the models! That is turning centuries of science on its head.

He went on to write:

My overall sympathy is with Ernest Rutherford: “If your experiment needs statistics, you ought to have done a better experiment.“

Despite this trenchant criticism, the Committee felt able to exonerate the UEA scientists of any ‘intentional’ scientific misconduct – the word ‘intentional’ doing some pretty heavy lifting, it seems to me.

In truth, the scientific principles with which I was schooled have been comprehensively flouted, and the scientific academy has suffered as a result. It’s perhaps worth rehearsing just one or two of those principles.

Data beats theory, every time. To quote the great Richard Feynman: “It doesn’t matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn’t matter how smart you are. If it doesn’t agree with experiment, it’s wrong.” The so-called ‘climate scientists’ – remember when we had a discipline called climatology, practised by climatologists? – didn’t get the memo.

The Climategate scandal revolved around a piece of scientific deceit used by Michael Mann (whose evidence in a recent defamation case against Mark Steyn was described by the judge as constituting “bad-faith trial misconduct” and “an affront to the Court’s authority”.) to conceal the fact that the dendrological evidence, upon which he was relying to construct his famous ‘hockey-stick’ graph of temperature trajectory, having corresponded with the instrumental record quite well since instrumental records began back in the days of Newton, started to go rogue just when Mann wanted it to agree with the upward tick in temperatures that began after the Little Ice Age ended – the ‘blade’ of his ‘hockey stick’.

In defiance of Feynman, Mann simply truncated the dendrological record at the point where it parted company with observations, and spliced onto it the instrumental record for the missing years, before submitting it for publication in Nature. This was known among Mann’s cronies, prominent among them those working at the UEA, whose server contained the emails that revealed the misconduct, as ‘Mike’s Nature Trick’. The resulting graph, paired with the IPCC’s now-discredited (i.e., the IPCC has now declared it to be “implausible”) RCP8.5 model, became parents to countless pieces of climate-bothering, sociopathic legislation.

Speaking of the IPCC, here’s another of my wild-eyed conspiracy theories: it was set up to wrangle a problem that was presupposed to exist. The idea that it might at any stage in its lamentable existence have concluded that anthropogenic CO2 emissions were not really a problem, so it could wind itself up and allow its contributors to do something useful with their lives, is simply preposterous. Turkey, Christmas, etc. It is, I suppose, important to observe that the IPCC generates two reports:

  1. the Assessment Report (AR), containing the results of the lucubration of the IPCC’s academic participants. Nobody reads the AR, apart from dastardly deniers looking for errors or, more commonly, findings which are at odds with what is to be found in
  2. the Summary for Policy Makers (SPM). Supposed to be a simplified, but truthful distillation of the AR, comprehensible to the lay reader, and so, allegedly, suitable for informing policy-makers.

The problem with this structure is that it allows the compilers of the SPM to misrepresent aspects of the AR which they find insufficiently alarming, and to be reasonably confident that their enhancements will pass unnoticed. Conversely, it provides cover for the AR academics. If challenged by dastardly climate deniers to explain the failure of some aspect of a past SPM to agree with observations, they can point to the relevant section of the corresponding AR and say “look, we may have mentioned outcome x in our report, but we did so with ‘low confidence’ – shame that detail didn’t make it into the SPM, but the SPM’s not our responsibility, so…”

Well, I think the AR contributors are responsible for the way their work is represented in the SPMs. They were aware, year after year, that their ‘low-confidence’ (I prefer ‘garbage in, garbage out’) model RCP8.5 was being brandished as the Business as Usual (BAU) case by the activist journalists of the legacy media to persuade legislators to take ever more expensive ‘action on climate’. Even if professional etiquette did not compel it, it was a matter of simple civic duty to point out that RCP8.5 was shot through with gross exaggerations, and quite unsuitable for policy-making purposes. But that would have imperilled the increasingly lucrative climate cult, of which the IPCC was the Vatican. So instead, and despite numerous complaints (that’d be those dastardly deniers with their ridiculous conspiracy theories, again), they did nothing to correct the record.

Michael Mann’s peccadillos, and those of the British and New Zealand cronies whom he suborned, were waved aside by the closing of the ranks which has characterised climate ‘science’ ever since. Academics, having no more courage than any of us, and rightly sensing that there was little to gain but much to be lost by speaking out, have tended, if they have not joined the chorus of doom, to stay silent. One of the consequences of this browbeating of dissidents has been to create the misleading impression of an ‘overwhelming consensus’ of scientific opinion backing the alarmist narrative.

And even if such a consensus did exist, so what? Science advances by challenging consensus, not by bending to it. From Galileo, insisting that the earth was in orbit around the sun and not the other way round, to Barry Marshall, infecting himself with helicobacter pylori to test his hypothesis that it, and not stress, was the cause of peptic ulcer, the history of science is all but the history of cranks proving themselves right – overturning the prevailing consensus.

A few academic scientists, some of whom I have named above, have taken advantage of their tenured status to express their disapproval of the shenanigans necessary to keep the increasingly lucrative bandwagon on the road, but the absurdly counter-scientific notion that the science was ‘settled’ had so captured the mainstream media that organs such as the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, the BBC and the Guardian, if they admit the existence of these heretics, do so only to disparage them as ‘deniers’.

But then I suppose that could just be another of my conspiracy theories.

This article was originally published on the author’s blog Harrumpf.com.

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Scarecrow Repair
August 16, 2026 10:25 pm

I sometimes look at all the rich powerful interests slagging for the existential global warming crisis, and wonder why I am not of their persuasion. I grant that there is some minuscule chance they are correct, but that would fly in the face of several obstacles:

  • They lie too damned often. No one lies that much, commits that much fraud, or covers up their history of lies and fraud, if they have truth on their side.
  • If any of their predictions over the last 50 years have come true, I do not know of them. Yet they refuse to admit any predictions have failed and keep making new predictions along the same lines. Science is built on testing predictions; they are not practicing science.
  • They have used their power and their resources, especially government, to silence critics and skeptics, instead of refuting or debating them. That is not science either.

I don’t have to know the field itself when proponents behave that badly. They are behaving as badly as Jason Arday, and when I first saw his claims (illiterate until age 18, ran 9 marathons with a broken leg, starred in a documentary made before he was born), there was no need to try to understand his professional work to know he was a fraud. The same applies to global warming proponents, but they have been doing so since before Jason Arday was born.

When good cops refuse to expose bad cops, they are bad cops too, and the same applies to the good climate scientists who don’t expose the liars and frauds.

Phillip Chalmers
Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
August 17, 2026 12:17 pm

If you deny warming completely, you are just as wrong as the flat-earth believers.

Reply to  Phillip Chalmers
August 17, 2026 7:16 pm

‘If you deny warming completely, you are just as wrong as the flat-earth believers.’

Does ‘deny warming completely’ mean denying that any increase in CO2 emissions must result in some amount of warming?

Mario Barbafiera
Reply to  Phillip Chalmers
August 18, 2026 4:17 pm

The warming is neither consistant nor ubiquitous. Although Europe had heatwaves, as it has in the past, the area north of 80deg N was experiencing colder than usual conditions. Antarctica has experienced some of its coldest (-84degC) temperatures. South Africa has had significant snow. During the Eemian the poles evidently warmed more than the tropics ( and that beleive it or not, had nothing to do with human emissions of CO2.) The terrsitial temperature record is so bedivilled by issues, its virtually worthless. The satelite measurements show modest warming of about 0.5deg C. So yes, some warming is ocurring. But no one can with absolute certainty point to what’s causing it. Enjoy it, as some maintain that we are in for a prolongued cold period, and the few extra molecules of CO2 are going to do nothing to ameliorate that.

August 16, 2026 10:36 pm

I can relate entirely to this article, and to its author’s frustration. A frustration which, if it comes across too vehemently during a conversation with convinced alarmists, will inevitably make you appear angry, crazy, a nutcase, etc. Obviously, alarmists have every right to shout as much as they like. They can feel like Leonardo DiCaprio in that terrible turkey that was Don’t Look Up (whose title, incidentally, has become a “hashtagable” slogan).

It is quite true that there is nothing to be gained from expressing climate-skeptic views (I prefer the term climate realism). Except discredit, social exclusion, anathema, being sidelined — all things to which no one would willingly submit, even in exchange for a fat check signed by the vile oil companies (which, as far as I know, decidedly prefer to invest in renewables, knowing that oil, coal, and natural gas consumption is not going to decline anytime soon), especially when it is so easy simply to go along with the crowd, enjoy institutional prestige, media visibility, be received by governments, and be treated like a hero.

As for me, I have given up trying to present climate-realist arguments to people who are incapable of accepting contradiction. I have better things to do with my breath and my energy.

Keitho
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Reply to  Charles Armand
August 17, 2026 12:31 am

I note with no surprise that the icons of the Racism® industry are saying it is racist to question any claim made by Jason Arday no matter what the evidence shows. There are many shibboleths in this world, most of which are propped up by the progressive left; climate catastrophe, DEI, socialism etc. Those of us with opposite viewpoints are always demonised as conspiracists. Sad really.

Reply to  Keitho
August 17, 2026 2:11 am

Racism and anti-Semitism are often used by extremist to discredit any criticism. Unfortunately, while I agree with you about climate catastrophe and DEI, you have done it yourself by dismissing “socialism” as a shibboleth. There are many forms of socialism. Social Security is the best and most popular pension program in the US. It is not a government entitlement program, but is paid for by the recipients. It has problems right now because more people (baby boomers) are retiring than are coming into the workforce and the real income of the workforce has been stagnant for decades while the very rich and billionaires’ skyrockets, especially when one considers the marginal utility, sales taxes and property taxes.

Scissor
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:43 am

I think your intentions are good, but you come here and spout nonsense about things you don’t seem to know much about.

Contribution to social security by employees AND employers is mandated. Employers are not recipients and even some employees pay into it and will not receive any benefit whatsoever. Further there are recipients whom never paid into it either but do receive benefits. Yes, it is a social program that redistributes wealth.

The claim that it is the “best” pension program is easily disproven. Many people will not get back what they and their employers were forced to contribute. It’s computed annual rate of return falls short of what could be earned in even conservative private bond funds or insurance policies/annuities.

By any definition, legal or otherwise, social security IS a government entitlement program.

You deplore stagnant wages but you must also realize that the proportion of a worker’s and employer’s contribution to social security has not been stagnant. Yes, over the years the government has taken more from employees and employers to fund this program that has Ponzi characteristics as you seem to recognize at least with regard to the boomer situation.

You appear to love taxes. Your only complaint about taxes is you’d rather take more from the “very rich and billionaires.”

At the current rate of government spending, we are on the road to all of us becoming billionaires. Then I presume your argument will switch to “trillionaires,” and the “very rich,” of course.

No, the better approach would be to limit the size of government, to make it more closely function according to our original constitution. I’m afraid it’s too late for that.

Reply to  Scissor
August 17, 2026 5:57 am

I agree that the government should be limited. Our original constitution was written by people, 70% of which were slave owners, and who gave slave owners more votes, while denying women and the poor any vote. To deify them is ridiculous.
You are correct about employers having to pay into social security. But they just pass that cost along to their customers, like Trump’s tariffs are pass along to us, not the foreign countries. The vast majority of most companies’ customers are not billionaires or even millionaires, so that is a regressive tax that the billionaires and millionaires do not pay.
You claim that some employees will pay into it and not receive anything. That is true of those who die before retirement age. Those that live not long after retirement age will not get fair value. But this is equally true of all private pension plans. SS is the best because it has the least overhead and no profit for those running it – and it forces people to have a pension plan which most companies, like restaurants, do not have at all.
According to the SS website, what you get our of SS depends on how much and when you paid into it. If that is false, prove it.
It is not a Ponzi scheme since no one is raking in money, personally, and it has existed for nearly 100 years without collapsing. I give you, on the other hand, that the politicians mismanaged it and took advantage of it to justify more spending.
Attacking me is ad hominem, illogical and irrelevant.
here is more info on SS, which I have read, that I think you would be better educated if you did read
https://crr.bc.edu/does-the-government-steal-from-social-security/

Scissor
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 9:10 am

My insult to you was not an ad hominem attack. It had nothing to do with my arguments against your points, most of which you did not address.

I insulted your thinking because it is faulty, contains much nonsense. Just the other day you spouted something similarly crazy and when challenged you immediately conceded, “I misspoke.”

You would do better to focus on some subset of what you wish to convey. As it is, you throw everything and the kitchen sink at the wall hoping that something will stick. Instead, it rots and stinks.

In your reply, one point you argue is a red herring. You responded like I said something contrary to SS benefit not correlated to how much one paid in. I said no such thing, and I am well aware of that fact.

In my case, I and my employers paid in over a half million in SSI taxes over my career and I’m not done yet, but I’m closing in on it.

Compared to even just a simple annuity, my SS monthly benefit will be almost one half of what I could do on my own. If those funds had been invested in an aggressive tech fund, I would have earned at least 5 times, more likely at least 10 times.

George Thompson
Reply to  Scissor
August 17, 2026 10:19 am

Look to Singapore to see how to properly handle SS-seriously. I wish we had that approach here. BTW, I think Singapore executed some crooked banker types some years back for thievery. I might be mistaken, but what a good idea.

Reply to  Scissor
August 17, 2026 11:14 am

Insults, by definition are ad hominem attacks. You said,
Further there are recipients whom never paid into it either but do receive benefits.” that is false to the facts, as I proved
Prove what you say

Derg
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 3:43 pm

We agree, you are not thinking clearly.

Reply to  Derg
August 17, 2026 9:01 pm

Who is “we” and exactly what and how am I not thinking clearly. Slurs are not logical and are irrelevant

Derg
Reply to  Derg
August 18, 2026 4:24 am

Why do other countries charge tariffs to the US?

Scissor
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 5:10 pm

My AI disagrees with you on both counts. It says:

“Not all insults qualify as ad hominem attacks, as they my not necessarily relate to the argument being made.”

“Social Security provides benefits to individuals who have not paid into the system under certain conditions, such as spousal benefits, survivor benefits, and benefits for dependent children.”

I will add that if I die before collecting any benefit, I and my employers for me, paid into the system for basically nothing.

Reply to  Scissor
August 17, 2026 8:28 pm

AI is not facts nor logic.
Ad hominem translates to “against the man”. Moreover, an insult is not pertinent to the argument.
The wife and survivors deserve the benefits which were paid for by person who is survived. Again, your argument is specious.
Like all pension programs, if you die first, you do not collect. But your spouse and children might, as you point out above.
Hundreds of millions of people have benefited greatly from Social Security. They are forced to pay in. But, otherwise they would have nothing in their old age. Is that what you want? What is your alternative?

drh
Reply to  Scissor
August 17, 2026 11:25 am

Spot on.

If 10 or 15 years ago I was told I could opt out of paying in to SS if the government got to keep all of what I put in, I would’ve jumped at it. Then I would have invested the money I would’ve otherwise been forced to contribute to SS.

Now that I am approaching retirement age, I want my damn money.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:16 pm

Funny how those who have no trouble insulting those who disagree with them, are always quick to whine when some of their insults are returned.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 5:57 pm

Find that mirror buddy. Quick…..

paul courtney
Reply to  Simon
August 18, 2026 5:56 am

Mr. Simon: I don’t recall seeing Mr. W whining about insults. Buddy.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
August 18, 2026 3:52 pm

Poor Simon, even when he tries, he can’t keep up.
When have I ever complained about people casting insults?

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:37 pm

I have insulted not one person in this discussion

Reply to  Scissor
August 17, 2026 7:24 pm

I’m sure you know this, but you’re attempting to reason with a troll, if not an AI-fueled ‘bot’. Better to ignore him, her or it.

Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 5:24 am

Social Security was always set up as a Ponzi scheme. It is dependent on newer accounts paying for older accounts.
The system cheated the working populace especially since the proceeds were deposited into the general fund. It is a dangerous place to put yourself in the way between a politician and money.
A more reasonable Social Security system would have individual accounts invested in treasury bills where politicians don’t have access to it.

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  Brad-DXT
August 17, 2026 6:10 am

Even better would be depositing into indexed mutual funds, owned by the pensioner and inheritable. The FICA deductions would only need to be 1/2 or 1/4 what they are now for a better pension.

Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
August 17, 2026 6:22 am

I agree, it would be even better with indexed ETFs but, I think it would not be politically feasible due to a large contingent of citizens opposed to anything to do with investments related to the greedy capitalists.

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 5:54 am

Socialism is seizing the means of production. Social Security is welfare. They are different things.

Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
August 17, 2026 5:59 am

No, communism is the seizing of the means of production. Socialism regulates it and helps those in need

Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 6:26 am

Socialism is communism lite and it still distributes wealth to people that didn’t earn it – government theft.

Reply to  Brad-DXT
August 17, 2026 6:58 am

Capitalism is theft through fraud. How can anyone truly “earn” billions of dollars? What service did they do for all of mankind? Using the system, legally, does not mean they “earned” it.

Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 7:06 am

AOC, is that you?

John Hultquist
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 8:30 am

With this comment and emphasis on “earned” you demonstrate a lack of understanding of how Bezos, Job, Knight, Benioff, Sinegal & Brotman, Schultz, and Musk, and others created their wealth and that of many collegues. 

Reply to  John Hultquist
August 17, 2026 11:18 am

So educate me on how they “earned” it. You merely list the overpaid.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:13 pm

Note that I used the word “created”, you use “paid”.
When you understand the difference, it will be like the cartoon of a light bulb bursting in your brain. Do this if you can, no one can do it for you.

Reply to  John Hultquist
August 17, 2026 8:58 pm

Tell me how they “created” wealth. And they were overpaid for whatever they created. Business is just a game to them. They can’t spend the money. They don’t care about people.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:22 pm

Nobody who bought the products sold by any of the individuals listed, was forced to buy said products.

That alone refutes your hatred towards those who have experienced the success in life that you long for.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:42 pm

I do not hate them. I feel sorry for them, in fact, since they get their self worth from money.

My Mind To Me a Kingdom Is
by
Sir Edward Dyer
1540 – 1607

My mind to me a kingdom is, 
Such present joys therein I find 
That it excels all other bliss 
That earth affords or grows by kind: 
Though much I lack which most would have 
Yet still my mind forbids to crave. 
No princely pomp, no wealthy store 
No force to win the victory, 
No wily wit to salve a sore, 
No shape to feed a loving eye 
To none of these I yield as thrall 
For why? My mind doth serve for all. 
I see how plenty surfeits oft, 
How hasty climbers soon do fall; 
I see how those which are aloft 
Mishap doth threaten most of all; 
They get with toil, they keep with fear: 
Such cares no mind for long can bear
Content to live, this is my stay; 
I seek no more than may suffice; 
I press to bear no haughty sway; 
Look, what I lack my mind supplies: 
Lo, thus I triumph like a king, 
Content with that my mind doth bring. 
Some have too much, yet still do crave; 
I little have, and seek no more. 
They are but poor, though much they have, 
And I am rich with little store: 
They poor, I rich; they beg, I give; 
They lack, I leave; they pine, I live. 
I laugh not at another’s loss; 
I grudge not at another’s gain; 
No worldly waves my mind can toss; 
My state at one doth still remain: 
I fear no foe, I fawn no friend; 
I loathe not life, nor dread my end. 
Some weigh their pleasure by their lust, 
Their wisdom by their rage of will; 
Their treasure is their only trust 
A cloaked craft their store of skill: 
But all the pleasure that I find 
Is to maintain a quiet mind. 
My wealth is health and perfect ease; 
My conscience clear my chief defense; 
I neither seek by bribes to please, 
Nor by deceit to breed offence: 
Thus do I live, thus will I die; 
Would all did so well as I. 

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 3:55 pm

Now you are claiming that you know the souls of those you hate.
How do you know that any of the people listed define themselves based on how much money they make.
Or is that just your simple mind trying to explain the world that is beyond your grasp.

Reply to  MarkW
August 18, 2026 4:30 pm

I would like to know how much he thinks they should pay. Let’s do Elon: how much should Elon pay in taxes this year? In dollars.

George Thompson
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 10:30 am

Service to mankind? Space program advances for one thing and other tech advances, to start, and probably more we don’t know about.

Reply to  George Thompson
August 17, 2026 11:01 am

Space program advances? He only puts more money in his pocket. The poor and middle class get nothing. Tech advances? He pays employees pennies while he collects billions

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:23 pm

Wah, wah wah.
What you hate is the fact that there are people who have more than you do.

Does Musk force people to work for him?
Do you have any idea how the wages in his companies compare to industry averages?
Or do your complaints just boil down to your jealousy?

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:41 pm

Actually, I am rich. You make up things to try and prove your point. I feel for my fellow humans.

starzmom
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 11:33 am

Since when does earning money require that one performs a service for all of mankind, or that you should be the judge of whether someone has earned their pay? Last I looked, I was paid for the service I provided to my client/employer, not anyone else. I would like to think the service was worth the payment, but that is between me and my client.

Reply to  starzmom
August 17, 2026 12:29 pm

If you have clients and work for them, then you probably do earn your money. But no one “earns” billions. Musk, for example, hires people for peanuts and rakes in billions off their genius and efforts. And as for genius, why should people earn more just because they were born smarter, prettier, richer, etc.? Shouldn’t everyone be able to earn enough for a decent house, decent clothes, decent food and health care? Many people work harder and longer and don’t.

starzmom
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 12:54 pm

Yeah, I guess you are right. People will pay just as much to watch a 5’2″ klutz throw short interceptions in an NFL game, as they pay to see Patrick Mahomes throw amazing passes. Why should Patrick get paid millions, just because he is bigger and more talented than the 5’2″ klutz? Ditto for Taylor Swift. Just because she is pretty and a good singer doesn’t mean she should make millions, and the less talented and not as pretty singer work harder and make less.

If you believe that people don’t get paid for their talents, well, I can’t help you. You are too far gone.

Reply to  starzmom
August 17, 2026 1:58 pm

I can’t help you. You are too far gone.

This was made clear early on in this “discussion”.
JW is either amazingly and uncorrectably ignorant, or (more likely) a troll. Either way, he is not worth the effort to engage.

Reply to  starzmom
August 17, 2026 9:32 pm

People pay trillions for drugs. Does that make them ok and the price justified? The trills from the delusion that “your team” is somehow you or watching some porn light singer, sing are drugs.
And it is not their pay that I protest. It is the lack of health care, enough food and adequate housing for the poor. Taxing part of Mahomes’ or Swift’s wealth won’t affect how they live or what they enjoy. Cutting health care or making it unaffordable certainly does hurt, deeply the poor-

starzmom
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 5:55 am

A non-sequitur. Not sure what Taylor Swift or Patrick Mahomes have to do with drug addicts. I expect they pay an awful lot in taxes as well. Nor are they responsible for legislation like Obamacare that has made health insurance unaffordable.

Reply to  starzmom
August 18, 2026 6:07 am

Not a non-sequitur, just your mistake. You implied that just because people paid Mahomes and Swift huge amounts it was ok. People pay trillions to use drugs. That does not make taking drugs ok. Taxing them more won’t take anything they need or reasonably want. And taxes are NOT awful, in any amount. The things that taxes are used for, bombing women, children, old men and non-combatants, destroying their homes, churches, hospitals and schools, that is awful,
Not paying people enough to live on, have health care, get an education, have to work 3 jobs at one time to get by, that is bad.

starzmom
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 6:27 am

So how much do you think people like Mahomes and Swift should pay in income taxes? I will settle for a percentage. How much in taxes should anybody pay? Why should people who work hard to advance themselves pay for other people’s homes, food, health care or any other need?

Reply to  starzmom
August 18, 2026 7:52 am

Because they got that money for doing easy things. Yes they practiced, Even long and hard. But the people at the bottom work hard and long too, but get a pittance, cannot afford healthcare, a car, decent food.
 a ProPublica study looking at the 25 wealthiest people in America found that they only paid a tax rate of 3.4% between 2014 and 2018. The key point is marginal utility. The top earners get huge amounts of money they do not need or even can use.
The aggregate income measures the combined income earned by all persons in a particular income group. In 2018, the total personal income earned in the United States was $17.6 trillion.[36] In 2008, all households in the United States earned roughly $12,442.2 billion.[36] One half, 49.98%, of all income in the US was earned by households with an income over $100,000, the top twenty percent. Over one quarter, 28.5%, of all income was earned by the top 8%, those households earning more than $150,000 a year. The top 3.65%, with incomes over $200,000, earned 17.5%. Households with annual incomes from $50,000 to $75,000, 18.2% of households, earned 16.5% of all income. Households with annual incomes from $50,000 to $95,000, 28.1% of households, earned 28.8% of all income. The bottom 10.3% earned 1.06% of all income.

So lets make the top 8% which earned 1.3 Trillion pay 20% more, the rest of the top earners pay $1,000 more and let the bottom 10% pay nothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States#Aggregate_income_distribution

starzmom
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 11:28 am

Nowhere in there do you tell me how much those high earners are paying in taxes. Either as a percentage of all income taxes paid, or as a percentage of their income. Who are you to decide what other people need, want or “can use”? How arrogant of you! PS The bottom 10% already pay nothing. In fact, not too long ago, the bottom 49% paid nothing in income taxes.

Reply to  starzmom
August 18, 2026 11:32 am

The articles I quoted certainly did

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:00 pm

In other words, everyone else needs to pay more in taxes because you can’t yet afford all the free stuff you want.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 3:59 pm

That has got to be the lamest analogy I’ve ever seen.
Because some people pay for drugs, therefore no prices are justified and nobody has free will in terms of what they decide to buy.

The only people making health care expensive, has been the government.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:26 pm

Poor little socialist, can you prove that nobody earns billions, or is that just your envy based ideology whining again?

If you want to earn more, make your labor worth more.
If you have no skills, don’t expect people to pay you more than your labor is worth.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:40 pm

Prima facia that no one EARNS billions. To earn, you have to give value for value received. Prove any of the billionaires gave billions in value. Legal yes, equal value, impossible

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:02 pm

I love how you substitute unsubstantiate falderal for reasoned discussion.
Nobody earns a billion dollars, because you say so.

You are the one making outlandish claims, now you want me to prove you wrong.

Since a grand total of nobody was forced to buy from Musk or any of the others, then by basic logic, they all felt that what they bought was worth the price.
Ergo, the money was earned.

George Thompson
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:41 pm

Many people don’t work and won’t work and are on the Government tit…so cry me a river. Those folks eat better than I do.

Reply to  George Thompson
August 17, 2026 8:33 pm

Proof of your assertions? Malnutrition in children is a big problem in the US.

starzmom
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 6:29 am

Yes, it is. It is awful when parents spend money on fancy nail jobs, fancy cars, fancy hair and/or drugs, and even trade their EBT cards for cash to pay for those things, instead of putting food on the table. For what it’s worth, when I worked in a legal aid office, this was common practice. Don’t tell me it doesn’t happen.

Reply to  starzmom
August 18, 2026 7:36 am

I never said it did not happen. But fraud from the rich is very common, especially on income taxes. Musk feeds at the public trough for his space program. Financiers create ponzi schemes. That is no reason to punish those in need who do not.

starzmom
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 11:32 am

Who is punishing people in need?? I just point out to you that many people get welfare and choose not to spend the money feeding their kids. So those people should be given more money? For what? The fact that Musk has government contracts in his businesses is completely irrelevant to the welfare programs that are misused and mismanaged in this country.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:05 pm

Malnutrition is not a problem in the US, mis-nutrition on the other hand is rampant.

We live a country where poor people are fat.

Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 1:32 pm

How can anyone truly “earn” billions of dollars?”

Hmm … They invented\made\bought and sold stuff people wanted but they didn’t give it away for free?
Maybe, even after hiring people to help, they still made a (Horrors!) profit from it?
Maybe they invested some of that profit into expanding their business (whatever it is)?
Maybe they sold it or left it to their kids and it further expanded?
And after hiring even more people to fill even more jobs, they still made a profit!!!
All involved still made money.
Gosh! Some of those people up and down that growing chain of producers, might have even had enough to voluntarily contribute to charities to help the less fortunate or other causes they wish to support!
There might be a middle-class shop owner a millionaire, multi-millionaire, billionaire at the top of that chain.
But, so what?

PS You do realize that there will always be “The Rich” and “The Poor” and those in between.
But the names of those in those groups change. They “shift levels” all the time.

Reply to  Gunga Din
August 17, 2026 9:26 pm

I said they probably acquired it legally.
I never said it was wrong to make a profit. It is excessive profits and wealth that cannot be justified, or even spent. And some then use those excessive profits to warp the laws to benefit themselves.
Charities are a joke to big business people-insignificant, to them, a PR stunt. I know. I grew up on the inside of big business. I heard CEO’s say exactly that.

Funny how in your book it is ok for them to give it to people who did not earn it but bad for the government to help those in need. IF they weren’t cutting health care, SNAP and housing support, I would not care that they were rich. I am not advocating making them poor. I am saying it is evil to worship money and ignore the unfortunate.

Derg
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 3:44 pm

Comrade put down the crack pipe

Reply to  Derg
August 17, 2026 8:59 pm

Capitalist, quit smoking opium and pushing fentanyl

Derg
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:25 am

I am a happy Capitalist and non drug user.

Reply to  Derg
August 18, 2026 6:01 am

First, sorry I descended to your level. I should have not let you get to me: you accused me smoking crack and being a totalitarian. But are you saying you don’t drink alcohol? Coffee? Use sugar? All addictive drugs. I was also referring to Capitalist drug pushers, from opium to China and fentanyl from China, hillbilly heroin. Your pride is a drug you love as well. You put me down so you will look better to yourself.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:20 pm

And now we get to the gist of it.
It’s not so much that you love socialism, it’s that you hate people who have more than you do.

Can you prove that billionaires can only get that way through theft?

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:44 pm

I am rich.
Theft was too strong a word. I apologize for using it. They do get it by gaming the system, not for value given.

paul courtney
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 6:12 am

Mr. Walter: Again, you say you’re rich, but the malnourished children exist, why not walk your talk? You want to control other people and their money, and you don’t get to do so. Please reply, prove me right.

Reply to  paul courtney
August 18, 2026 7:32 am

I do give money to the poor. I have helped homeless and welfare people get jobs.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:09 pm

This seems to be a pattern with you. Making claims you can’t back up and then letting your emotions rule your responses.

You made the claim, prove that the only reason why these people are rich is because they are gaming the system.
Constantly evading straight answers, constantly changing the subject and constantly insulting those who have been more successful than yourself.

That is all you’ve got.

paul courtney
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 6:00 am

Mr. Walter: Thanks for letting us know.

Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 7:06 am

It is actually fascism. That is where private ownership of the means of production still exists. However, the government controls what, how much, and where production takes place. If you think the New Green Deal isn’t fascism, then you need read.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
August 17, 2026 8:00 am

Not sure to whom you directed your comment, but I totally agree that the Green New Deal, Biden, Democrats, Trump, Republicans are all fascists. Mussolini defined Fascism as the merger of the state with the government. But I disagree that the government decides anything. They are just the minions of the corporations, especially since Citizens United decision by the Supremes

Mr.
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 9:31 am

There IS a stark difference between Crony Capitalists, Communists, Socialists, Fascists, Dictators and the like, and TOTALITARIANS –
those psycho narcissists who just use the political systems and organizations as suits them to secure total personal power & control over populations, resources, treasure and the real estate they occupy.
They are political chameleons.
Their only real political alignment is with those who at any given moment are “useful idiots” they can manipulate in their quest for absolute domination of everybody, and indulgent self-aggrandizement.

Think Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Mugabe, Idi Amin, Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein – you get the picture.

George Thompson
Reply to  Mr.
August 17, 2026 10:25 am

…and the Democratic party-you missed that one.

Reply to  Mr.
August 17, 2026 11:06 am

Think Trump, Biden, George W Bush, George H Bush, Clinton, Teddy Roosevelt, Herbert Hoover, et. al.

George Thompson
Reply to  Jim Gorman
August 17, 2026 10:24 am

Obviously he can’t read-must be a graduate of the US educational system…which is run by socialists.

George Thompson
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 10:21 am

When was the last time you saw a Russian worker with his own dacha?

Reply to  George Thompson
August 17, 2026 11:02 am

When was the last time you saw an American Worker with his own dacha? They have to work 3 jobs to keep their houses and feed their families

Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 2:00 pm

Where do you get the stuff you are full of!?!?
True, I don’t have a “dacha”. Though we live in our second house.
I’m a (now retired) American Worker. I do admit I’ve have more than 3 jobs, but never more than 1 at a time. And when our kids were little, my wife stayed home till they started school. Then she did part-time stuff until she retired.
We paid off the 30 year mortgage on our current home 13 years early.
Never short of food (though we couldn’t always buy all the treats we’d like or eat out every night.)

PS The collar of my work shirt was blue. (Though in the summer we only had to wear a T-shirt. Most of the years that was “safety green”.)

PPS So as not to sound misleading, I didn’t dig ditches. I was a water treatment plant operator. I studied and passed the OEPA test to become certified.

Reply to  Gunga Din
August 17, 2026 9:17 pm

There used to be good, blue collar jobs. The US labor reform laws made that happen. But even then there were more minimum wage jobs, and today that percentage is even higher. The US financial system and greed for greater profit shipped manufacturing jobs to China were worker pay was much cheaper and rights, safety and real environmental concerns are ignored.

starzmom
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 2:42 pm

Please define “American worker”. I know a blacksmith who makes a 6 figure income, and goes on out of state hunting trips regularly. Dunno how many houses he has.

MarkW
Reply to  starzmom
August 17, 2026 4:31 pm

Jimmy strikes me as one of those graduates of liberal arts education, who has never actually worked a day in his life, yet is PO’s over the fact that even with his fancy degree, he still isn’t as rich as he wants to be.

Reply to  starzmom
August 17, 2026 9:05 pm

I am talking about the ones that make minimum wage or less or even more, not some guy who owns and works at a blacksmith business.

starzmom
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 6:31 am

So who are these folks? In my area, no one makes minimum wage.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:29 pm

Actually I have seen lots of American workers with good homes as well as vacation homes.

Your jealousy is causing you to see only what the party tells you to see.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:37 pm

I am not jealous. Give me the facts and figures. Saying you have seen lots of American workers is vague and unsupported. Were they waitresses, hand laborers, janitors, who, how many, where?

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:19 pm

Socialism is communism light as well as the inevitable result of trying to run a socialist economy.

The only way to implement socialism is by constantly growing government.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:46 pm

Your words are meaningless and unproven. Communism is the complete takeover of the means of production. Socialism is the control of production through regulations and redistribution of the inequalities of excessive wealth.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:13 pm

Even Marx wrote that socialism was the path to communism.
The only way to get socialism to work is by increasing the power of government.
Socialism can never work so long as individuals have the option to opt out.
That’s why, over time, government always grows, until you reach the point where the government does control everything.

Reply to  MarkW
August 18, 2026 1:27 pm

And a driver of socialism is envy and greed.
If someone is worth more, it doesn’t encourage others to become worth more themselves. It tells people they are entitled and justified to take what others have.

MarkW
Reply to  Gunga Din
August 18, 2026 4:14 pm

It’s amazing how many people are able to convince themselves that the rich never earned their money, which is why it’s OK for government to take most of it and spend it on free stuff for them.

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 6:07 am

You should also know that Social Security is a lousy pension program. I downloaded my FICA premiums and the Dow Jones and S&P 500 annual yields, and ran them thru a clunky calculator for every starting year since 1926, when the S&P 500 started, and compared them to what SSA said my pension would be. I did not account for inflation or taxes.

If I had invested those FICA premiums into those two indexed mutual funds, when I retired I would have had a lump sum to withdraw 5% from regularly as my pension. I chose 5% because the 10 year average yield of the two indexes were 10% and 13%, leaving 3% and 6% beyond the 2% inflation target for continued growth.

That 5% annual withdrawal would have provided 96% of the SSA pension in the worst starting year, easily made up within a year or two from that 3%/6% cushion. It would have been 2x and 4x in average years, and I forget how much more in the best years.

In other words, I could have a better pension on 1/2 or 1/4 the premiums sucked out of my pay now by FICA, and the capital would have been mine to pass on to my heirs or available for emergencies, not a fictitious SSA account. SS is a lousy pension scheme.

Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
August 17, 2026 6:25 am

You are a smart and savvy person. Do you think the average and below average person is capable of doing what you suggest?
I agree with you, as my reply to this elsewhere stated, that the government could have done much better than just putting the money into government bonds. But even most investment firms and banks believe in a balanced portfolio which includes some government bonds.
And the government and Fed are responsible for all the inflation which is another reason the value of the returns is so low.

starzmom
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 2:39 pm

You do understand that the social security receipts were not exactly invested in marketable government bonds, don’t you? More like a stack of IOUs in a lockbox someplace just waiting to be cashed in. If they had been invested in real government bonds, where they could have been bought and sold at market prices, they might have ended up earning more money, like the real investments and portfolios you refer to.

Reply to  starzmom
August 17, 2026 9:08 pm

You are right. The investment program by the government was far from the best. But that does not make social security, itself, bad. Being forced to pay into a pension program is the only way most of the poor would do it.
Here is an important discussion about it
https://crr.bc.edu/does-the-government-steal-from-social-security/

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:33 pm

You don’t need to be a genius to invest intelligently. At a minimum, just invest in mutual funds and the like.
The absolute worst thing you can ever do with your money, is to hand it over to the government.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:35 pm

You really think waitresses, hand laborers, janitors and other low paid people are going to invest in mutual funds. Yes, the Social Security system could be improved. But without being forced to put money in, these people would have nothing.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:16 pm

Can they, yes. Do they, unfortunately not.
Like you, they are convinced that they don’t need to, because SS will take care of them when they retire.

Then when they reach retirement age and find out they have been lied to, they turn to government to save them from themselves.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:15 pm

Dismissing a social theory that has destroyed every country that has employed it and resulted in the deaths of millions, is invalid?

SS is going bankrupt in a few years after which it will be largely funded from the general purse, as the “conspiracy theorists” have been pointing out since the scam was founded.
The money was never stolen, it was invested in T-bills, it is those who claim otherwise who are pushing shiboleths.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:48 pm

Roosevelt introduced socialism in the US and the US then experienced its greatest rates of growth, ever.
It was the Fed, capitalists, that caused the stock market boom of the 20’s and then caused the Great Depression by shrinking the money supply 3 times. Read Milton Freidman

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 9:35 pm

The stock market was recovering just fine after the crash. The Great Depression occurred AFTER government tried to fix what was already healing itself.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 18, 2026 12:38 am

Wrong!
The Great Depression was a severe global economic downturn from 1929 to 1939. The period was characterized by high rates of unemployment and poverty, drastic reductions in industrial production and international trade, and widespread bank and business failures around the world. The economic contagion began in 1929 in the United States, the largest economy in the world, with the devastating Wall Street crash of 1929 often considered the beginning of the Depression. Among the countries with the most unemployed were the U.S., the United Kingdom, and Germany.
The Depression was preceded by a period of industrial growth and social development known as the “Roaring Twenties“. Much of the profit generated by the boom was invested in speculation, such as in the stock market, contributing to growing wealth inequality. Banks were subject to minimal regulation, resulting in loose lending and widespread debt. By 1929, declining spending had led to reductions in manufacturing output and rising unemployment. Share values continued to rise until the October 1929 crash, after which the slide continued until July 1932, accompanied by a loss of confidence in the financial system. By 1933, the U.S. unemployment rate had risen to 25%, about one-third of farmers had lost their land, and 9,000 of its 25,000 banks had gone out of business. President Herbert Hoover was unwilling to intervene heavily in the economy, and in 1930 he signed the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act, which inadvertently worsened the Depression. In the 1932 presidential election, Hoover was defeated by Franklin D. Roosevelt, who from 1933 pursued a set of expansive New Deal programs in order to provide relief and create jobs. In Germany, which depended heavily on U.S. loans, the crisis caused unemployment to rise to nearly 30% and fueled political extremism, paving the way for Adolf Hitler‘s Nazi Party to rise to power in 1933.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:19 pm

So many things you know, have no basis in fact or reality.
The new deal not only created the great depression but prolonged it.
Once WWII started, most of the new deal regulations were gotten rid of so that industry could create the weapons needed to win the war.
After the war, the US had the only functioning, first world economy left on the planet. So it’s hardly surprising that the economy boomed.
It had nothing to do with socialism.

starzmom
Reply to  Charles Armand
August 17, 2026 4:39 am

The discredit and social exclusion of climate realists is only exceeded by the discredit and social exclusion of gender/sex realists.

Mario Barbafiera
Reply to  Charles Armand
August 18, 2026 4:25 pm

Agree, and as I am a teacher (with a Masters degree in Palaeoclimatology), I am faced by alarmists teaching impressionable children the Climate Change mantra. Unfortunatly, in New Zealand, most of this is done by Social Studies teachers who have no background in Climatology. Even the Geography teachers lack Climatology studies, and the curriculum is bereft of decent climate studies. Challenging this is too hard, but its very frustrating. Fortunatly there are some enlightened teachers who are open to discussion on this. I wait eagerly for the next Maunder Minimum type event that may start in the 2030s….

August 16, 2026 10:48 pm

“they can point to the relevant section of the corresponding AR and say “look, we may have mentioned outcome x in our report, but we did so with ‘low confidence’ – shame that detail didn’t make it into the SPM, but the SPM’s not our responsibility, so…”

Anyone who has complained to the BBC about a climate change artivle will be familiar with this line of defence.

August 16, 2026 11:04 pm

Good article.. most of it spot on ! 🙂

August 16, 2026 11:19 pm

I largely agree with the author. What resonates with me is not necessarily the idea of a grand conspiracy, but the reality that a vast climate-industrial complex now exists, with enormous influence across politics, academia, the media, international institutions, and finance.
To me, his central points are valid and should be obvious to any open-minded person willing to examine the evidence and the incentives at work:

  • Climate alarmism is often exaggerated and presented with far more certainty than the evidence warrants.
  • Powerful institutions frequently marginalize or dismiss dissenting voices rather than engage seriously with their arguments.
  • Net Zero policies carry enormous economic costs that are rarely discussed honestly.
  • Developing countries are harmed when access to affordable and reliable fossil-fuel-based energy is restricted by wealthy nations and global institutions.
  • Scientific and political institutions, like all human institutions, can become captured by ideology, groupthink, self-interest, and career incentives.

None of this requires believing in a secret conspiracy. Large institutions with aligned interests and shared assumptions can produce remarkably uniform outcomes without anyone needing to coordinate in a smoke-filled room. History is full of examples where prevailing orthodoxies became resistant to challenge.

What concerns me most is not climate science itself, but the growing unwillingness to allow genuine debate about climate policy, costs, trade-offs, and unintended consequences. When trillions of dollars, energy security, industrial competitiveness, and the future development of entire societies are at stake, skepticism should not be treated as heresy. It should be welcomed as an essential part of both science and democratic decision-making.
In short, I don’t see this as a debate between “science” and “denial.” I see it as a debate about evidence, incentives, power, economics, and the right of people to question policies that will profoundly affect their lives and the future of their countries.

Mario Barbafiera
Reply to  John Pabst
August 18, 2026 4:35 pm

Biggest problem is the “science is settled” and “97% of climate scientists agree”… arguments. Science is never settled. James Webb created major questions about the age of the Universe. This is debated civilly. Dark matter vs Modified Newtonion Dynamics is debated civilly, String Theory is ( mostly) debated civilly. The crux of the CO2 impact on temperature hinges mostly on the debate on the saturation of the atmosphere wrt to CO2’s ability to absorb energy. Here it gets interesting. ….Happer seems to have a good explanation for this, but even he is accused of being a Big Oil shill..

Tom Forrester-Paton
Reply to  John Pabst
August 22, 2026 4:35 am

Thanks, but I was careful to call it a conspiracy of silence. I don’t that is what is meant by a ‘secret conspiracy’. It’s a conspiracy hiding in plain sight, between people who know which side their bread is buttered, and need no prompting to say and do what is needed to make sure they keep receiving it.

trafamadore
August 16, 2026 11:21 pm

Nobels have been awarded for science for more than a century, and they delineate the best of the best.

Three Nobel prizes for climate change (2007, 2018, 2021) makes it petty sure that that not just scientists but most people think the science is quite solid.

Only two Nobels were given for work later not to be correct. One in 1902: Hendrik Lorentz won his Nobel in 1902 for his theory of electrons, which turned out to be wrong in some of its details. But he laid the foundation for Einstein’s Relativity in 1905. Antonio Egas Moniz won the Medicine Nobel prize in 1949 for inventing the lobotomy, not popular now, but at the time was useful (I guess) for certain mental disorders.

I am thinking that three Nobels for climate change means that it’s solid, and skeptics are probably outmatched in their race to get their Nobel.

Reply to  trafamadore
August 17, 2026 12:23 am

I strongly suggest that you listen to this video, and realise that the very basis of climate models is based on really bad science.

Roy Clark: A Nobel Prize for Climate Model Errors | Tom Nelson Pod #271

It is unfortunate that Nobel prizes have more recently become a political tool in some areas, because it has greatly devalued their worth.

Oh and let’s not forget.. Mickey Mann got a climate Nobel prize 😉 … as did Al Gore.

Add a few others who got Nobel Peace Prizes, and the worth of Nobel Peace Prizes becomes that of used toilet paper.

John Hultquist
Reply to  bnice2000
August 17, 2026 8:37 am

Were you thinking of the great peace maker Yasser Arafat?
Or perhaps Barack Obama — for what I’m not sure.

Mr.
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 17, 2026 9:35 am

at least Obama admitted he was embarrassed by the Nobel Peace prize award for having done s.f.a.

Reply to  Mr.
August 17, 2026 2:27 pm

If I remember correctly, he hadn’t even been sworn in yet!
(Did he return the money?)

PS It only live on TheWayBackMachine now, but a socialist (DSA?) site in Chicago listed his election win in a local election as one of their’s winning.
That entry was scrubbed when he ran for President.

Derg
Reply to  Mr.
August 17, 2026 3:49 pm

Obama didn’t mind droning brown people in the middle east for his peace prize.

Reply to  trafamadore
August 17, 2026 12:25 am

ps.. I think this says all that needs to be said about the current status of modern Nobel prizes.

Event information – NobelPrize.org

Reply to  trafamadore
August 17, 2026 1:20 am

I dare hope that this comment is meant ironically.

The date 2007 corresponds to the consecration of Al Gore and the IPCC, who received the Nobel Peace Prize (a political prize if ever there was one). Al Gore, for his catastroph(i)c film, An Inconvenient Truth, which, in retrospect, is a remarkable work from an epistemological point of view. The enormous influence of this feature film is proportional to the level of error it contains.

The IPCC, for its part, received the prize as a legal entity, which did not prevent various scientists who contributed to IPCC reports (Michael Mann and Jean Jouzel, for example) from claiming to have “received” the Nobel Peace Prize, or part of it. Let us note that this is not a Nobel Prize in science, but a Nobel Peace Prize, I repeat. It is therefore extremely political. The way the conclusion about the “discernible” nature of anthropogenic responsibility for warming since 1850 was adopted in the Second Assessment Report is quite something.

The date 2018 refers to the Nobel Prize in Economics awarded to William Nordhaus for his modelling work on adaptation to climate change. He is hardly an alarmist and would rather be classified among the pragmatists. If you are looking for people running around a bonfire shouting about the imminent end of the world, William Nordhaus is not where you should look.

Finally, the date 2021 refers to the Nobel Prize in Physics awarded jointly to Manabe, Hasselmann and Parisi (half to the first two, the other half to the third). Manabe and Hasselmann were rewarded for their modelling work, on which the models still used in climatology are based. These models are not without flaws, to put it mildly, and the way contemporary modellers cling to them without ever questioning the slightest bit of the underlying assumption is rather appalling. Models are disposable products; we are supposed to take the best from a series of models and use what we have learned to build more sophisticated models, in order to understand the systems being modelled more effectively. That is not what has been happening for decades. The predictive capabilities of the models have been undermined by reality. There is nothing wrong with that, provided that the appropriate lessons are drawn from it and we do not simply stand still. One may also wonder whether the invention of these computer models really ranks alongside the revolutions brought about by Einstein, Heisenberg, Rutherford, etc.

Reply to  Charles Armand
August 17, 2026 1:22 am

About lobotomy : NO, three times, a thousand times NO, this “therapy” has never helped anyone. It is an atrocious operation whose effect was to calm the “insane,” as they were called at the time, quite simply because poking around in people’s brains with a trepan makes them stupid. Who would have thought! Seriously, I did not expect to see anyone rehabilitating Moniz anytime soon. I hope this is your ignorance speaking, or else a particularly ill-placed attempt at irony.I dare hope that this comment is meant ironically.

atticman
Reply to  Charles Armand
August 17, 2026 4:51 am

As the saying goes, “I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than have a frontal lobotomy.”

Phillip Chalmers
Reply to  Charles Armand
August 17, 2026 12:48 pm

This collection of rants if very much USA centred and hard to relate to from the rest of the world, the major proportion of humanity. We feel your pain. Sad.
You are quite correct that brain surgery for mental illness was a mistake and has been abandoned; you are wrong about the motive for trying it in the first place. Genuine compassionate doctors with patients in torment thought that a drastic measure might help people who were suffering in a way that you cannot imagine.
The procedure was done very infrequently, those who had it were kept closely monitored and the results were very quickly heeded, and the procedure was seen to be both useless and damaging and never became a widespread, orthodox treatment.

starzmom
Reply to  Phillip Chalmers
August 17, 2026 3:04 pm

Brain surgeries (lobotomies and other similar procedures) were done to women who had the temerity to get pregnant out of wedlock, like JFK’s sister in the mid-1900s. Other women, like my great grandmother, were committed to insane asylums for the same crime. I am not sure those practices were all that uncommon.

Reply to  starzmom
August 17, 2026 8:19 pm

They are not. After reading Philip Chalmers’s rather dismissive comment (“We feel your pain. Sad.”, he says), I put a query to ChatGPT. Here’s what it tells me:

“In the United Kingdom, the commonly cited historical estimates are around 15,000 to 17,000 lobotomies. One British historical source gives 17,000 procedures in England, while a Norwegian historical overview cites around 15,000 for the United Kingdom. However, this figure should be treated with caution: British statistics sometimes distinguished between ‘lobotomy,’ ‘leucotomy,’ and other forms of psychosurgery, and the series do not necessarily cover exactly the same territories or periods.

For example, official British statistics are available for England and Wales: between 1966 and 1972, there were still between 170 and 380 psychosurgical operations per year. Depending on the year, these figures included leucotomies, lobotomies, topectomies, and tractotomies.

In Norway, the figure is much better documented: at least 2,500 people were lobotomized between 1941 and 1974. Some historical sources speak of around 3,000 operations, particularly for the period 1940–1960. The last Norwegian lobotomy is said to have been performed in 1974.

Norway is, moreover, a particularly striking case. Relative to its population, the use of lobotomy there was extremely high: Store norske leksikon states that the country had the second-highest proportion of lobotomized people in the world, behind Denmark. The procedure was often used as a coercive treatment for psychiatric patients considered agitated or difficult to manage.

As for Japan: psychosurgery—a broader term than ‘lobotomy’—was indeed used on children displaying behavior considered extremely aggressive, hyperactive, or uncontrollable. A historical review of psychosurgery explicitly states that in Japan and the United States, children who were ‘uncontrollably aggressive and hyperactive’ were treated with psychosurgery in the 1950s and 1960s. These practices were gradually abandoned in the face of growing opposition from child psychiatrists during the 1970s.

The notion of a ‘difficult patient’ was sometimes extremely broad. Lobotomy was not reserved solely for people suffering from schizophrenia or severe psychiatric disorders: it was also used as a means of making patients more docile, less agitated, or easier to care for. In Norway, historical sources specifically highlight its use as a coercive intervention on patients who were ‘urolige og utagerende,’ that is, agitated and aggressive.”

My great-great-aunt has a story similar to that of your great grandmother. She became pregnant out of wedlock, was ostracized and dragged to the mud (unlike today (in West), patriarchy at that time was really horrific), sank into a depression that worsened to the point of becoming melancholic, before developing Cotard syndrome. She was institutionalized and subjected to electroshock treatment. She died in the asylum, and her body was thrown into a pauper’s grave. Not even a grave of her own for that poor woman.
I am absolutely not anti-psychiatry, I should make that clear. I take a large dose of antidepressants every day to eliminate horrible anxiety. A matter of life and death, in other words. Medicine has made enormous progress in a few decades (thanks to capitalism, technological progress, and fossil fuels!), but it has to be said that in terms of treatment precision, diagnostic accuracy, and even respect for patients, psychiatry has advanced much less than other medical specialties.

oeman50
Reply to  Charles Armand
August 17, 2026 5:28 am

Models are disposable products

Amen to that. At one time, modelers were prone to say the outputs of models were not predictions, they were outcomes to help us examine the assumptions that went into them. Which means ALL of the assumptions that go into them are there to be questioned for validity! To say that one variable (namely CO2 concentration) cannot be doubted is contrary to the purpose of a model.

“The science is settled” my Aunt Fanny.

SwedeTex
Reply to  oeman50
August 17, 2026 7:15 am

Models are based on the biases and assumptions of those programming the model.

drh
Reply to  SwedeTex
August 17, 2026 11:37 am

And ALL models are wrong, some models are useful.

Reply to  oeman50
August 17, 2026 12:54 pm

I drew this lesson from reading the series of seven articles on climate model biases written by Andy May. It’s honestly an excellent piece of work, very educational. I would recommend it to anyone who wants to learn more about the capabilities and shortcomings of climate models.

Reply to  Charles Armand
August 17, 2026 6:54 am

Excellent summary, Charles.

I have nothing to add. 🙂

On second thought, I do have something to add: A British judge took exception to the accuracy of Al Gore’s film, and required that corrections be explained to any British school children exposed to Gore’s propaganda.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 17, 2026 12:57 pm

Thank you very much.

I hope the warning that preceded Gore’s film in schools prevented some kids from having nightmares.

A better solution would probably have been not to show it at all…

1saveenergy
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 20, 2026 12:10 am

[“A British judge took exception to the accuracy of Al Gore’s film, and required that corrections be explained to any British school children exposed to Gore’s propaganda.“]

But rarely implemented.
They are still preaching this tripe to kids & wondering why depression in school kids is on the rise.

NHS statistics suggest that 20.3% – one in five – children and young people aged from eight to 16 years in England had a probable mental disorder in 2023. This a huge rise from 2017, when 12.5% had a probable mental health disorder. 

https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/publications/statistical/mental-health-of-children-and-young-people-in-england/2023-wave-4-follow-up/part-1-mental-health

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Charles Armand
August 17, 2026 9:24 am

I dare hope that this comment is meant ironically.”

You’re fairly new to the site, this person doesn’t mean anything ironically, but it always ends up that way.

Reply to  trafamadore
August 17, 2026 2:14 am

And the Nobel Prize for Peace given to Obama before he took office? He started many wars. Ended none.

Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 7:02 am

Yes, that award to Obama, for him doing nothing, pretty much killed the credibility of the Nobel committee for me.

It was a plainly political virtue signal. Obama did not deserve a reward for anything yet they gave him the award. Completely divorced from reality.

George Thompson
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 17, 2026 10:38 am

We all know why Obama got the Prize; we just can’t say it out loud.

Reply to  George Thompson
August 17, 2026 6:54 pm

Because he was Kenyan ???

George Thompson
Reply to  bnice2000
August 17, 2026 7:35 pm

Unhuh, yeah, you bet. Are you an American? If so, you already know the answer. If not, just you think about it for awhile. OK, time’s up-figured it out yet? But, seriously, I love your irony…God, I love this site! Have a good nite.

1saveenergy
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 20, 2026 12:30 am

[” He started many wars. Ended none.“]

History shows that’s what most US presidents do … including Trump.

“The United States has been at war or engaged in significant military conflict for approximately 225 of its 249 years of existence — over 90% of the time. Of the 46 presidents and governing bodies in our dataset, 34 presided over military conflicts while only 12 served without major military engagement.”

https://www.warcosts.org/analysis/presidents-war-record

Reply to  1saveenergy
August 20, 2026 1:58 am

One thought on “The Nerd Reich Author Gil Duran: “People Are Waking Up to This Fascist Threat.””

  1. Plato/Socrates warned us about Democracy.
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato's_political_philosophy#Criticism_of_democracy
  3. “He also argues that, in a system in which everyone has a right to rule, all sorts of selfish people who care nothing for the people but are only motivated by their own personal desires are able to attain power. He concludes that democracy risks bringing dictators, tyrants, and demagogues to power. He also claims that democracies have leaders without proper skills or morals and that it is quite unlikely that the best equipped to rule will come to power.
  4. Plato asks us to imagine a ship whose owner surpasses all those on the ship in height and strength, but is slightly deaf; his vision is similarly impaired, and his knowledge of navigation is just as bad. He then asks us to imagine the sailors, all of whom are arguing about which of them should have control of the helm while none have studied navigation. The sailors don’t even know that the craft of navigation existed.”
  5. https://medium.com/@spmishrais/platos-warning-why-democracy-feels-broken-now-across-the-world-56567f0aa9eb
  6. “In the United States, Donald Trump is back in the White House, once again energising crowds with sharp slogans and emotional appeals. In India, Narendra Modi continues to dominate politics with powerful narratives around identity, pride, and nationalism. Behind both systems stands a small group of extremely wealthy individuals — billionaires who shape policy, influence elections, and often operate far from public scrutiny. And elections themselves seem endless, turning governance into a permanent campaign. And the story is similar across the world in other democracies also.
  7. Plato once described democracy as a system “full of variety and disorder.” In 2025, it feels less vibrant and more exhausted — rewarding spectacle over solutions.
  8. Trump’s return has been driven by emotionally charged rallies, viral clips, and sharp attacks on “elites” and migrants. Internationally, he aligns with leaders like Viktor Orbán and Javier Milei, who similarly frame politics as a battle between “the people” and “the system.” Complex issues — jobs, education, healthcare — are reduced to slogans.
  9. In India, Modi has mastered mass appeal like few others. His speeches blend religion, nationalism, and personal storytelling, creating a strong emotional bond with supporters. Large public events — from election rallies to religious gatherings — become political spectacles. Critics argue that this approach sidelines minorities and weakens institutions meant to question power.
  10. Plato warned that when charm replaces restraint, leaders stop governing and start dividing society. We can see the consequences clearly: polarisation, social tension, and occasional violence — both in the US and India.”
  11. In the Republic, Plato argues that the people tire of the continual bickering and compromise that do not work so they end up giving power to a dictator or group of oligarchs. Exactly what is happening now. Our Nerd dictators are smart and skilled at propaganda.
  12. Trump is mentally ill (dementia and narcissism) and will lose big in the midterms. Will Thiel, Musk and company be able to get Vance elected or will the Republican disaster be so big that the Democrats, corporate party B, as Nader correctly calls them, win. Jon Ossoff looks good, speaks well and strikes Trump’s jugular.

SxyxS
Reply to  trafamadore
August 17, 2026 4:06 am

Interesting logic dude.

The USA is the country that makes war after war, destroys country after country, committs genocide after genocide, where literally every president is a war criminal –
yet its politicians get by far the most Nobel Peace Prizes in the world.

Be Al Gore who has no clue about science nor filmmaking, yet got a Nobel Prize and an Oscar
for 100 minutes full of lies.
Obama who was not even in the top 1 billion Nobel Prize candidate list before he got the prize
(I can only imagine how the Nobel-committee looked at an empty piece of paper with all of Obamas achievement before they voted him)
and who got the Nobel Prize preemptively so he can go on a global killing spree with impunity

Serial mass murdering globalist and Bilderberg – Boss and man mandatory advisor of several US president(successor of Bernard Baruch) Heinz Kissinger
and Jimmy Carter.

I can only imagine how high the Orwellian standards of the Nobel committee are.

But how corrupted, controlled and politicized is the Nobel Prize actually?

Let’s take a look at the globalists favorite war tool and origin of all Agendas,New Values and Wars – the US Deep State

Who is/was on the US – to do list in this decade
2021
Duterte(the CiA is trying to get rid of me) – Phillipines
Nobel Prize Winner – Maria Resa, Filipino CiA journalist

Russia/Putin
Nobel Prize Winner – Dimitry Muratov, Russian Journalist

Next Year, same shit
2022

Belarus/ Lukashenko ( the NED/Gershman invested a shit ton of money to create a Ukraine Style nationalist movement to make some revolution)
Nobel Prize Winners

Ales Bialiatski – Belarus Presstitute

Memorial – international human rights organisation in (surprise) Russia

Center of Civil Liberties – Ukraine

2023

Iran on Americas to do list
Here we go

Narges Mohammadi – Iranian activist

2025 –
Has anyone said Venezuela?

– Maria Machado – the worst Presstitute one can imagine:
Here is your Nobel Prize.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  SxyxS
August 17, 2026 9:26 am

Idiot.

MarkW
Reply to  SxyxS
August 17, 2026 4:41 pm

Yea we get it.
If it’s bad, the US is behind it.
Heck, the heart break of psoriasis was the result of gain of function research funded by the US military as a way to decrease the morale of enemy troops.

Reply to  trafamadore
August 17, 2026 4:42 am

You need to distinguish between the Nobel Peace Prize and Nobel Prizes awarded for science, they are two different things, administered by two different bodies based in two different countries. The Nobel Peace Prize (based in Norway) is not a scientific award, whereas a Nobel Prize for science (administered in Sweden) is.

MarkW
Reply to  trafamadore
August 17, 2026 4:36 pm

Yet another appeal to authority.
How predictable.

August 16, 2026 11:21 pm

What a truly awesome essay. Unfortunately, not enough people will get to read it. The depth of lying by the so-called mainstream media is unbearable and I have no idea why they still do it. If Arrhenius, in Arrhenius (1896) had formulated his paper as a falsifiable hypothesis, they would still be lying about it. We can watch this live in the next few days, as these vile people will blame anyone but themselves for the tragic death of Jason Arday.

Reply to  philincalifornia
August 17, 2026 3:45 am

What a truly awesome essay.

A comprehensive tour de force.

Mr.
Reply to  worsethanfailure
August 17, 2026 9:38 am

Yep.
And it was also a feat demonstrating brilliance or mastery in a field.

August 16, 2026 11:21 pm

The alarmists are all too ready to accuse those they smear as “deniers” of being in some grand conspiracy, obviously in the payroll of “big oil”. The psychological phenomenon of projection comes to mind, as we often discover that they have actively conspired to silence or demonise those who don’t tow the line.

It’s really easy. If they want me to stop being a conspiracy theorist, all they need to do is stop conspiring.

August 16, 2026 11:31 pm

Story Tip: I would highly recommend featuring this in an upcoming post.

Tree from the Morteratsch tells of over 10,000 years of climate history. Glaciers. Ice age & warm…

In June 2025, a tree was discovered on the shoreline of the Morteratsch Glacier in the Engadine Valley. Under the direction of Professor Christian Schlüchter, the tree was uncovered and excavated, then airlifted and examined. 

This video has just been released about the discovery of a 10,000-year-old tree stump found at the top of a glacier in Switzerland. It is known that the glaciers in the Alps have retreated several times since the end of the last ice age. Research has been ongoing since the glaciers started retreating 170 years ago. Naturally, there has been a lot of opposition to this research, with critics often claiming that European climate change is only a local phenomenon and has nothing to do with today’s global warming. It was sad to see the efforts to discredit Professor Christian Schlüchter and his research. Good research being attacked simply because it doesn’t fit the narrative.

In the attached video, you can follow the discussion with English subtitles to better understand the findings and their importance in showing that this isn’t the first warming trend we’ve experienced since the end of the last ice age. 

I personally met Christian a few years ago when I was conducting my own research on CO₂ and climate change. He is a softly-spoken person with an in-depth understanding of geology and glaciers in Europe.

https://youtu.be/JFIMEyH073w?si=_uYFIUuIyvDMn7OK

August 17, 2026 1:47 am

climate woo-woo 
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First chuckle of my day

4000 words and were all the failed predictions pointed out? Yesterday John Hultquist’s post leads you to a very nice run down going forward from the “Global Cooling” scare of the ’70s.

WattsUpWithThat Failed Prediction Time Line

August 17, 2026 2:23 am

Satire coming
I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My preferred pronouns are I, told, you, so.
and this music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-gngBsA_DI
I Told You So – Conspiracy Music Guru (BANNED on Spotify!)

YouTube labeled my video on 911 as “Hate Speech”. For exposing the inside job that 911 was, I and my secretary received death threats, physical attacks on my car and myself, and Penn & Teller told people that if they saw me, “throw him down the stairs”. The lawyers, FBI and the police said there was nothing I could do unless someone did attack me and I could prove they got the idea from Penn & Teller.
Here is my 6 minute video proving the official story is bull, which YouTube took down claiming it was hate speech
https://rumble.com/v4s3gt3-recap-of-videos-proving-september-11-was-an-inside-job.html

Here is my satire of Bibi from over a decade ago
https://rumble.com/v4s3ep2-bibi-rap-parody-of-hitler-rap-by-mel-brooks-staring-netanyahoo.html

Scissor
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:51 am

Good music video. I can see why Youtube doesn’t like you. I like some of what you bring.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 9:30 am

If your 9/11 video was meant as something serious, you’re an idiot.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 17, 2026 11:08 am

Ad hominem attacks prove you have nothing important to say. They are illogical and irrelevant. My 911 video was factual and proof positive that hijackers could not have brought down the Towers, Building 7 nor hit the Pentagon

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 1:36 pm

Ad hominem is the only valid response to your nonsense.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 17, 2026 9:18 pm

Apparently you do not know the definition: against the man instead of the argument. All of what I have said is for or against an argument, never the man or woman saying it,

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 2:29 pm

AI is smarter than you.

Grok:

No. There is no credible evidence that the September 11, 2001 attacks were a U.S. government conspiracy or “inside job.” Extensive official investigations, engineering analyses, and independent reviews have consistently attributed the attacks to al-Qaeda terrorists who hijacked four commercial airliners. Claims of controlled demolition, missiles, advance government knowledge used for orchestration, or similar plots do not hold up under scrutiny.

Official Findings and Evidence

The 9/11 Commission Report (2004), based on review of millions of pages of documents and interviews with over 1,200 people, concluded that 19 al-Qaeda operatives carried out the attacks under the direction of Osama bin Laden and associates such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Bin Laden publicly claimed responsibility. Intelligence and law-enforcement failures (poor information sharing, underestimation of the threat) are well-documented, but these reflect incompetence and systemic issues rather than complicity.

The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) conducted multi-year technical investigations of the World Trade Center collapses:

– Aircraft impacts severed and damaged core and perimeter columns and dislodged fireproofing.
– Subsequent multi-floor fires (fed by jet fuel and building contents, reaching high temperatures in places) weakened the unprotected steel. Floors sagged, pulling perimeter columns inward until buckling initiated progressive collapse from the impact/fire zones downward.
– For WTC 7, debris from the North Tower ignited fires that burned for hours (with compromised sprinklers); thermal expansion and failure of a critical column led to progressive collapse. NIST explicitly found no corroborating evidence for explosives, controlled demolition, or missiles.

These conclusions align with structural engineering principles (steel loses significant strength well below its melting point), photographic/video evidence, recovered debris, seismic data, and first-responder accounts. Independent experts (including structural engineers and materials scientists) have supported the fire-and-impact explanations and rejected demolition hypotheses.

Common Conspiracy Claims and Why They Fail

Popular claims have been repeatedly examined and refuted by engineers, investigators, and fact-checkers (e.g., Popular Mechanics investigations drawing on dozens of specialists, FEMA reports, Snopes, etc.):

– “Jet fuel can’t melt steel” / controlled demolition: Steel does not need to melt to fail structurally; it weakens substantially at fire temperatures. Collapse initiated at the damaged/fire floors and progressed downward (opposite typical bottom-up controlled demolitions). “Puffs” of dust are explained by air compression and debris ejection as floors failed sequentially (“pancaking”). No credible seismic signatures of explosives, no residual explosive residues matching claims, and no practical way to pre-plant and conceal the necessary charges in occupied buildings without detection.
– Pentagon hit by a missile: Plane debris (including parts with airline markings), DNA identification of passengers/crew, wing marks on the building, and eyewitness accounts confirm Flight 77.
– Flight 93 shot down: Cockpit voice recorder shows the passenger revolt; the plane crashed under hijacker control.
– Insider trading / foreknowledge: Unusual options activity occurred but was traced to ordinary institutional investors and newsletters with no al-Qaeda links; investigations found no evidence of advance knowledge used for profit.
– Other claims (e.g., “no Jews reported for work,” thermite residue proving explosives, stand-down orders): These have been shown to rest on misreported numbers, misidentified materials, or misinterpreted orders amid the chaos of the day.

Groups promoting alternative theories (sometimes called the “9/11 Truth” movement) continue to argue for re-investigation, often focusing on perceived inconsistencies or selective data. These views remain fringe; they lack support from the broader scientific, engineering, and investigative communities and have not produced reproducible evidence overturning the official accounts.

In short, the physical, forensic, intelligence, and documentary evidence converges on al-Qaeda responsibility. Government failures in prevention are real and were examined critically, but they do not equate to orchestration. Conspiracy claims require extraordinary evidence that has never materialized despite decades of scrutiny.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 17, 2026 9:13 pm

AI is NOT intelligent. It is pattern matching and theft of ideas from what real people have written. And in this case, fed to it by people covering 911 up.
Above, you make allegations without citations to the actual, alleged dis-proof. Even the members of the 911 commission admitted the official story was bogus.
Did you actually watch my video?
https://rumble.com/v4s3gt3-recap-of-videos-proving-september-11-was-an-inside-job.html
Watch that and tell me exactly what is wrong.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 9:51 pm

Right, all those independent investigators are covering the whole thing up.

I started watching your video. There was too much nonsense for me to bother with it. I could give you all sorts of citations, but you would just say the government made them cover it up. You can’t be reasoned with.

As for what was wrong with it, the AI compilation I posted explains all of it.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 18, 2026 12:35 am

Cite any nonsense. Be specific. Your blanket dismissal only proves you have nothing concrete. You refuse to believe your own eyes.
Everything the AI says has been proven the opposite.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 6:07 am

You haven’t proven anything. Just because you see windows blowing out from floors collapsing and call those “controlled explosions” is not proof.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 18, 2026 7:53 am

Steel beams are blown 200 yards from the building. That is proof of explosions. Building 7 falling straight down into its footprint, is proof of a controlled explosion.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:26 pm

If you watch the tower on the top of the building, you can see that it did not fall straight down.

As to launching steel beams 200 yards, do you have any idea how large an explosion to do that?
One large enough that they would be no doubt about there being an explosion.

On the other hand, explosions leave very specific types of damage, none of which has ever been found in the Trade Center wreckage.

This subject has been hashed and re-hashed. There has never been a shred of evidence that the collapse was the result of anything other than crashing airplanes followed by an intense fire.

1saveenergy
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 20, 2026 12:39 am

[“AI is NOT intelligent. It is pattern matching and theft of ideas from what real people have written.“]

That’s absolutely correct; it is a consensus engine. Rely on it at your peril.

Reply to  1saveenergy
August 20, 2026 1:52 am

Thank you.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:45 pm

The fact that you will take anything as proof of what you want to believe says nothing good about your intelligence nor those who pretended to educate you.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:31 pm

False to the facts. Ad hominem. Illogical and irrelevant

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:27 pm

When you believe things that have been thoroughly disproven, it says nothing good for any claims of intelligence.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 4:43 pm

Is there any nut job theory that you haven’t fully bought into.
9/11 an inside job? Sheesh.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2026 8:30 pm

Is there any government war you have not bought into? Did you watch my video? Watch it and then tell me what in it is wrong.
https://rumble.com/v4s3gt3-recap-of-videos-proving-september-11-was-an-inside-job.html

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 17, 2026 9:52 pm

You’re not worth the effort.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 18, 2026 12:33 am

You prove you have nothing that proves what you claim.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 6:06 am

Nope. I prove that you’re not worth the effort.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 18, 2026 6:09 am

You have not proven anything. You continue to make assertions without facts or logic

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:30 pm

Now that thar is funny.

MarkW
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 4:30 pm

That’s fascinating, I ridicule your claims regarding 9/11, therefore I’m a war monger.

Your making less and less sense as time goes on.

I haven’t seen your video, but it is no doubt just a rehashing of the same tired trash that those who have trouble dealing with reality have been clinging to for decades, all of which have been adequately explained.
It’s just that you are so desperate to believe that the government is out to get you, that you will cling to anything.

paul courtney
Reply to  Jimmy Walter
August 18, 2026 7:38 am

Oh my…… Mr. Walter thinks it’s “satirical” when he says he’s a conspiracy theorist, then throws out wildest theory from the kingdom of Conspiracyville. This, in one final flush, explains all of his comments here.

jchr12
August 17, 2026 2:50 am

You clearly are not (or no longer), a conspiracy theorist, but sadly may still be a little gaga if you still hold to the notion that Covid was ever a real ‘thing’.

Reply to  jchr12
August 17, 2026 3:52 am

Covid was as real as the Russian ‘flu in 1977, which was real enough, and I am fairly convinced was what wiped out most of my first year of university that year. (No, it wasn’t the drinking; that came much later!)

The hysterics and overreach in response to Covid were real too.

August 17, 2026 4:10 am

Thought provoking and wide-ranging article. I can relate to it.

I have adopted a pragmatic approach to “renewables. Using the offered grift in the full knowledge that it is highly regressive government sanctioned theft while watching much of my life’s work improving Australia’s productivity being anhilated by the radical left kleptocracy now in government in much of Australia.

I was instrumental in the automation of the iron ore industry and coal industries in Australia. I worked hard to established nonunion workforces with everyone employed under the same merit based conditions. I worked hard to reduce bloated State bureaucracies with monopoly control of our electricity generation, transmission and distribution. That effort reaped its greatest result in 2003 with base load power costing just $23/MWh. and a decade of unprecedented productivity growth that followed.

Then the insidious spread of United Nations influence through our governments and taxpayer supported leeches . The Climate Change™ hoax, no borders, First Nations apartheid and gagging of free speech. I have become a lot more politically active and strongly support the rise of Pauline Hanson who has a very sound BS detector if not the most eloquent leader in history, She is no Trump but she started a long time before Trump and is only now gaining momentum. Basically POTUS Trump is singing from her song book but she had to build a new party. It was encouraging to see her at the Mar-a-largo gathering last October with her biggest backer, Australia’s wealthiest individual. Pauline ‘has built the One Nation party and that says it all. We should not be jumping in line with the UN radical left agenda.

George V
August 17, 2026 4:12 am

“The true believers, and those with vested interests – for instance in the bottomless trough of renewables…”

Add to the list of those with vested interests: Those who want control of societies, such as Marxists and others of their ilk. Control of energy is control of economy is control of society.

Some years back I recall reading an excerpt of an interview with the first chief of staff of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, the US congressional rep. According to what I recall, the chief of staff was the actual author of the original Green New Deal bill. In the interview he stated to the effect that the purpose of the legislation had nothing to do with environment, it was to control the economy.

Reply to  George V
August 17, 2026 4:51 am

The UN has been quite open that it regards the CAGW meme as a means of money transfer from richer countries to poorer ones. Christiana Figueres stated this explicitly when she was involved with the UN, did she not?

Reply to  DavsS
August 17, 2026 4:04 pm

Here is quote from Ottmar Edenhofer: “Climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth”. For more of his quotes about world wealth redistribution see: http://www.azquotes.com/author/30831-Ottmar_Edenhofer.

This guy and his ilk are sour grapers who believe the world owes them a living.

Scissor
Reply to  George V
August 17, 2026 4:59 am

Yeah, we’re not conspiracy theorists. We’re reality theorists.

August 17, 2026 6:59 am

“…the history of cranks proving themselves right – overturning the prevailing consensus.”

GreenHouse Effect theory says with it Earth’s Global Mean Surface Temperature would be 288 K or 15 C, while without it GMST would be 255 or -18 C, a difference of 33 C (not K) and Earth would become a -18 C ball of ice.
That is simply wrong.
There is no consensus that 288 K is the GMST & 255 K is the result of a 30% albedo also no consensus. GMST was 15 C in Arrhenius’ 1896 paper (walked back in 1906) and no GHE means no 30% albedo. Without GreenHouse Gas water vapor there is no GHE and Earth would become much like the Moon, barren, 400 K lit side, 100 K dark.

 The GHE energy balance graphic found in TFK_bams09 and a plethora of clones does not in fact balance and violates both 1st & 2nd laws of thermodynamics.

The kinetic heat transfer processes of the contiguous atmospheric molecules render “extra” surface energy upwelling as a calculated 396 W/m^2 black body impossible.

The GHE is failed science and Catastrophic Anthropomorphic Global Warming a fear mongering political and social power grab.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
August 17, 2026 7:35 am

For many “conspiracy theories” the more they are being attacked means they are right on the target. If the “conspiracy theory” is far fetched it would be ignored.The difference between a conspiracy theory and truth is often time.

John Hultquist
August 17, 2026 8:15 am

Three comments:
a) I am supportive.
b) The list of things that could be purchased for $2.75 trillion should include a couple of things the average citizen can relate to, such as a cheeseburger or a Mac&Cheese dinner for a family of 4;
c) Galileo Galilei should be remembered as an amazing scientist (“called the father of observational astronomy“), but he shot to fame for championing Copernican heliocentrism that contradicted the Biblical interpretations. Giordano Bruno was brutally punished and executed for this and other views in 1600, 30+ years prior. 

Randle Dewees
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 17, 2026 9:19 am

At $5 for a modest MD cheeseburger that is 5.5E11 (550 billion) units. I didn’t find that relatable, but then I looked up how many McDonalds is estimated to have sold so far – 330 billion! I relate now.

starzmom
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 17, 2026 11:43 am

It took the Catholic Church nearly 400 years to un-excommunicate both Galileo and Copernicus.

Bruce Cobb
August 17, 2026 8:49 am

If you want to know all about the “Scientific Consensus” on climate, and the idea that in order for said “scientific consensus” to be wrong, there would have to be some sort of gigantic “conspiracy”, just ask any climate caterwauler. They will be happy to oblige.

Petey Bird
August 17, 2026 8:51 am

It seems like you don’t believe that the government can control the weather or that solar panels and E-bikes make the weather colder.
You are obviously a conspiracy theorist.

William Cuell
August 17, 2026 8:56 am

Every conspiracy theory starts with a fact. That is why so many of these conspiracy theories turn out to be true. They turn from fantasy to fact after the consensus is scrapped and real science is allowed to happen and takes over.

WBWilson
August 17, 2026 9:05 am

Excellent article.

Just want to point out one typo. In about the twelfth paragraph you state:

“If that’s so, our $2.75 trillion would buy us 550 such hospitals.”

That should be 550,000 such hospitals. The correct number does appear in the accompanying table.  

Tom Forrester-Paton
Reply to  WBWilson
August 21, 2026 6:35 pm

Thanks, and you are correct. I did this calculation before I started creating the table in Excel. I got my trillions an order of magnitude out, corrected myself in the spreadsheet, then failed to go back and correct the earlier text. I could have used a good proof-reader – I now see there’s at least one fragmentary sentence.

Anyway, nice to know someone paid close attention!

Beta Blocker
August 17, 2026 9:18 am

Back in late 2020, I was accused by my progressive left relatives of being a Q Anon style of conspiracy theorist for believing that global warming wasn’t a real problem; that the COVID pandemic was the result of a lab leak of an engineered virus; and very worst of all, that clear evidence demonstrated that the 2020 presidential election had been stolen by massive in-your-face vote fraud.

Six years ago, these folks were constantly harping on these two themes: ‘We trust the science‘ and ‘We don’t listen to Q Anon conspiracy theories‘.

At the time, my response to these people was this:

— Q Anon is a psychological warfare operation run by Deep State operatives which supplies a convenient target for the progressive left to criticize as being the Internet’s primary source of conspiracy theory misinformation.

— ‘We trust the science’ and ‘We don’t listen to conspiracy theories’ are merely slogans which allow a groupthink true believer to ignore any and all evidence contrary to their own opinions and which relieves those true believers of the time-consuming task of thinking for themselves.

Six years later, Q Anon seems to have disappeared from the Internet. But their sloganeering still continues with regard to AGW scam topics and ongoing election fraud topics.

August 17, 2026 9:33 am

This is article doesn’t present as a conspiracy theory at all. The description of how climate alarmism came into existence, alongside all the industry and political posturing it has spawned, is clearly evident. As alluded to in the article, it’s quite simply a classic case of the “naked emperor”!

The media love it because it’s sensational. Politicians love it because they believe …(or they once believed), it would win them votes – especially from the younger, trendier sections of the electorate. And pseudo-scientists love it, because it means they don’t have to get their hands dirty doing real science – instead just playing about with CGMs.

It’s a well written article, which would be very amusing, if it wasn’t just so alarmingly true!

Mary Jones
August 17, 2026 10:09 am

Speaking of the IPCC, here’s another of my wild-eyed conspiracy theories: it was set up to wrangle a problem that was presupposed to exist.

Aka “begging the question.”

Phillip Chalmers
August 17, 2026 12:14 pm

There does not exist something called science.
People look at things and stuff that happens and try and work our where, why, whence …
A vast array of different methods have in the past been successful in revealing some more understanding of some things. There is no one method in ANY discipline, the answers are seldom totally correct and lacking any need for deeper or wider understanding