Four Million Sinking Homes

The rainfall data behind it shows no drying trend. The geology behind it has been stable since before the Romans. And the number the press ran was the one from the dead scenario.

Charles Rotter

“Millions of homes in London, Essex and Kent at risk of sinking as climate crisis worsens,” said the Guardian. AOL ran it. The story bounced around the usual outlets, all of them leading with the same number: more than four million British homes at risk from climate-driven subsidence by 2070. The source is the British Geological Survey, which is a serious institution, or used to be, and that is what makes this one worth a few minutes.

Paul Homewood already did the legwork on the rainfall trends, and I will not repeat all of it. He pulled the Met Office’s own spring rainfall series back to 1840 and the summer rainfall for South East England back to 1875, and the short version is that there is no trend. Dry springs were more common a century ago. The last really dry summer in the South East was 1995. If the South of England is drying out, the South of England has not been told. Go read his piece for the charts. They are the kind of charts that end an argument.

What I want to walk through is the foundation the four million number sits on, because once you see it, you cannot unsee it, and it is the same foundation holding up half of British climate policy.

The BGS figure comes from a product called the GeoClimate Shrink-Swell dataset. Shrink-swell is a real thing. Clay soils absorb water and swell, then dry out and shrink, and the ground moves, and houses built on clay crack. London sits on London Clay, which is about as shrink-swell as clay gets. This has been true since before there was a London. It is the reason the Victorians had subsidence and the Edwardians had subsidence and your great-grandmother’s terrace in Camden has a crack over the front door. Subsidence is made worse by the weight of buildings, by water extraction, and by the large trees people insist on planting next to their houses. None of that is new, and none of it is climate.

To turn an old geological fact into a 2070 headline, you need a forecast. And to get the forecast, the BGS took its geological maps and combined them with climate projections. Specifically, per the BGS’s own announcement, climate data derived from the Met Office’s UKCP18 projections.

And there it is. UKCP18.

UKCP18 is the Met Office’s 2018 set of UK climate projections, and its headline-grabbing high-end scenario was built around RCP8.5. Regular readers know where this is going, because we have covered it at length. RCP8.5 is the emissions pathway that assumes a fivefold expansion of global coal use through 2100, no meaningful climate policy, and technological stagnation, none of which is happening or has happened. As of the new ScenarioMIP framework for CMIP7, published this April, RCP8.5 and its successor SSP5-8.5 have been formally retired from the scenarios that feed the IPCC’s next assessment. The climate community itself has stopped using it. We have run several pieces on this in the last few weeks.

So here is the actual structure of the four million homes story. The BGS took its geology, fed it through the Met Office’s UKCP18, which is built on RCP8.5, which the IPCC retired three months ago as implausible, and produced a forecast for 2070.

If this were a single overcooked press release I would not bother. What makes it worth writing about is that it is now the house style of British climate institutions, and it arrives the same week as a related example worth holding up next to it.

Consider sea level, which is the other great engine of British coastal doomcasting. The accelerating-sea-level story rests almost entirely on the satellite altimetry record, which began in 1993 and now runs about thirty years, stitched together across several satellite missions, each handoff requiring a calibration adjustment. The long tide gauges, some running well over a century, tell a quieter story. The Battery gauge in New York has measured a steady rise of roughly 2.8 to 3 millimetres a year since 1856 with no statistically significant acceleration across more than 160 years. Where the short satellite record and the long tide-gauge record diverge in character, there is a real and live argument about which one deserves the greater weight, and it is not the settled question the headlines imply. David Burton has been documenting the tide-gauge side of this at sealevel.info for years, patiently, gauge by gauge.

The two stories rhyme. In both cases a long, boring, directly observed record shows a modest, roughly linear trend that has been going on for as long as we have measured it. In both cases a shorter, model-flavoured construction is used to project an alarming acceleration into the future. And in both cases the alarming version is the one that reaches the public, gets attached to a policy, and becomes the thing “everyone knows.”

What this is for

The BGS announcement is candid about what the dataset is for. It is designed, in its own words, to help local authorities, developers, planners, mortgage lenders and insurers assess their exposure to climate-related risk. In other words, it is intended to flow into planning rules, lending decisions, insurance premiums, and house prices. A forecast built on a retired emissions scenario is going to be used to decide whether your bank will lend against a terrace in Barnet.

And that is the part that should bother people who do not care one way or the other about climate politics. UKCP18 has not been withdrawn. The Met Office still serves it across its web pages. The BGS has now built a property-risk product on top of it. The scenario underneath has been declared implausible by the body that invented it, and the British institutional response has been to carry on as though nothing happened, because the projections are load-bearing. They hold up the Net Zero policy architecture, and you cannot pull the bottom scenario out without the upper floors getting nervous.

So the British Geological Survey, an organisation with a genuinely distinguished history of mapping the actual rocks under actual Britain, has published a forecast of four million sinking homes built on a climate scenario that the climate community retired in April. The rainfall data behind it shows no drying trend. The geology behind it has been stable since before the Romans. And the number the press ran was the one from the dead scenario.

If a graduate student turned this in, the supervisor would hand it back. But it was not turned in by a graduate student. It was published by the BGS, printed by the Guardian, and is now, somewhere in Whitehall, being quietly folded into the case for a policy that was decided long before the homes were counted.

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conrad ziefle
June 17, 2026 6:31 pm

I live in California. My front hall has a huge crack, and my pantry and back doors don’t latch. It happens every year. because California has a wet winter and a dry summer (like no rain for 6 months) and our house is build on clay. Eventually, we will fill the crack, and next winter, the doors will again latch on their own.

Victor
Reply to  conrad ziefle
June 18, 2026 4:06 pm

It is Glacial Isostatic Adjustment (GIA) or post-glacial rebound that is the reason why some land areas are sinking.
The ice sheet during the ice age created a bulge some distance from where the ice sheet ended. It is this bulge that is now sinking back.

Even the strongest materials (including the Earth’s crust) move, or deform, when enough pressure is applied. So when ice by the megaton settled on parts of the Earth for several thousand years, the ice bore down on the land beneath it, and the land rose up beyond the ice’s perimeter—just like the mattress did when you lay down on and then got up off of it.

That’s what happened over large portions of the Northern Hemisphere during the last ice age, when ice covered the Midwest and Northeast United States as well as much of Canada. Even though the ice retreated long ago, North America is still rising where the massive layers of ice pushed it down. The U.S. East Coast and Great Lakes regions—once on the bulging edges, or forebulge, of those ancient ice layers—are still slowly sinking from forebulge collapse.

Forbulge collapse is one of the larger causes of ground movement in the United States. Many places in the Eastern U.S. have been sinking for thousands of years and will continue to sink for thousands more.

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/glacial-adjustment.html

Robertvd
Reply to  Victor
June 19, 2026 1:25 am

That is also the reason Scotland is still getting bigger as more and more land rises out of the sea.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
June 17, 2026 7:53 pm

They’re still trying to scare people into compliance with the AGW narrative but don’t realize they are losing listeners.

Mr.
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
June 17, 2026 8:30 pm

They are losing listeners because people are saying –

we doan need no sinkin’ homes”

George Thompson
Reply to  Mr.
June 18, 2026 5:34 am

Ah, a “Blazing Saddles” fan. Love it.

Mr.
Reply to  George Thompson
June 18, 2026 7:29 am

Actually, it’s from the 1948 movie “The Treasure of the Sierra Madre” starring Humphrey Bogart

George Thompson
Reply to  Mr.
June 19, 2026 6:09 pm

Also in “Blazing Saddles” when the bad guys-including Klansman, indians, Nazis are getting togather-if I remember right. It was a good line that deserved repeating.

Reply to  George Thompson
June 18, 2026 9:01 am

At least two (or three) of us.

Mr.
Reply to  Phil R
June 18, 2026 10:56 am

We could have a contest to identify the lines from now-banned un-woke movies that “deplorables” like us still find hilarious.

Reply to  Mr.
June 18, 2026 11:22 am

There are several from Blazing Saddles. “Where are the white women at?”

And don’t get me started on Monty Python..

Mr.
Reply to  Phil R
June 18, 2026 8:27 pm

Yes, John Cleese recently said that M. Python could still make their comedy today, but no outlets would broadcast it.

I'm not a robot
Reply to  Phil R
June 20, 2026 6:29 am

The line from BS that kills me every time is Clevon Little’s “Nobody move or the….”.

THAT’s comedy.

Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 8:08 pm

So the British Geological Survey, an organisation with a genuinely distinguished history of mapping the actual rocks under actual Britain, has published a forecast of four million sinking homes built on a climate scenario that the climate community retired in April.”

What they actually said was:

The dataset forecasts that, by 2070:

  • over 4.2 million properties could be affected under the high emissions scenario RCP 8.5, which is the most pessimistic scenario
  • around 500 000 properties could be affected under the low emissions scenario RCP 2.6, which is the emissions scenario aligned to the Paris Agreement
  • over 1.8 million properties could be affected under the medium emissions scenario RCP 4.5; current global emissions trajectories are closest to this intermediate scenario 

And that is the proper use of scenarios. It covers the range of what it is envisaged that future actions on emissions might bring. We don’t know. And yes, if you replace the RCP8.5 by the current RCP7.0, the upper end of the range is a bit less.

The Battery gauge in New York has measured a steady rise of roughly 2.8 to 3 millimetres a year since 1856 with no statistically significant acceleration across more than 160 years. “

Just wrong. It shows statistically significant (and substantial) acceleration.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 8:20 pm

In fact, the Guardian said
The GeoClimate dataset forecasts that, by 2070, about 500,000 properties could be affected under a low emissions scenario aligned to the Paris climate agreement. This rises to more than 1.8m properties under a medium scenario, closest to current global emissions trajectories.”

It didn’t mention the high end scenario at all.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 10:57 pm

Here’s the link to the AOL article, but it’s quoting the Independent (same BGS study), stating 4.2 million homes in a high (which ever one they’re all quoting) scenario.
edit: https://www.aol.com/articles/millions-homes-london-essex-kent-101933000.html

Mr.
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 8:29 pm

We don’t know.

That’s the most accurate & honest observation you or anyone else promoting AGW has ever made, Nick.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Mr.
June 17, 2026 11:12 pm

It’s obvious. Scientists can’t predict future human decisions. So there are at least 4 scenarios If they could predict, there would be one.

Mr.
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 4:37 am

So if they admit they suck at prediction modeling, why don’t they revert to just getting a proper handle on explaining what natural phenonema ACTUALLY HAPPENDS (observations), and leave the televangelist “repent! repent! you sinners” exclusively to those more qualified in promoting such ooga-booga?
Divinity studies graduates such as AL Gore make suitable candidates for such propandising pursuits, surely?

DD More
Reply to  Mr.
June 19, 2026 9:00 pm

Algore never got to graduate in Divinity.

At Vanderbilt divinity school, Algore, over the course of three semesters, failed five of his eight classes.
But looks like he did pass “Hellfire & Damnation Preaching.”

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 7:10 am

Scientists can’t predict the future climate when the entire basis for said “predictions” is false.

CO2 does not drive the Earth’s temperature, so all “predictions of human decisions” are irrelevant.

Explain the glaciation that occurred 450mya with 10x today’s atmospheric CO2. Same planet orbiting the same star and the basic physics have not changed. Where was the supposed “climate driving power” of atmospheric CO2 then?!

“On holiday,” perhaps?

Reply to  AGW is Not Science
June 18, 2026 7:53 am

We currently have sufficient data to resolve a functional description between CO2 and temperature. The fact that there isn’t one kind of proves that CO2 is not the control knob.

Mr.
Reply to  Jim Gorman
June 18, 2026 11:00 am

and even if there was a knob for CO2, it wouldn’t have an “11” setting, as alarmists make out 🙂

I'm not a robot
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 7:40 am

Or, human behavior has no effect on climate, and all of the scenarios are just masturbation.

Reply to  I'm not a robot
June 18, 2026 11:23 am

You spelled “mathturbation” wrong…

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 8:31 pm

Just wrong. It shows statistically significant (and substantial) acceleration.

No different from other short term accelerations during the entire record.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
June 17, 2026 9:10 pm

A common WUWT response. It didn’t happen and anyway, it has happened before.

The quoted statement, from an earlier WUWT post, is just wrong.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 9:38 pm

Who said that? The tide data show short-term fluctuations up and down no long term acceleration:

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Nick Stokes
Reply to  Chris Hanley
June 17, 2026 9:53 pm

Here is the plot with data averaged annally, to reduce noise, and with the trend since 2000 added.

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Chris Hanley
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 10:20 pm

Cherry-picking.
Prof Humlum at climate4you -> oceans has a series tide gauge plots showing 12 month and 10 year trends, the plot for New York (The Battery) shows a linear trend since ~1910.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Chris Hanley
June 18, 2026 12:07 am

I don’t think Humlum does show that.

Here is a plot with linear trends fitted to 2026 starting at 1980,1985,1990,1995,2000,2005. Starting date makes little difference.

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Leon de Boer
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 4:22 am

If that graph is your strong evidence then you are in a world of grief 🙂

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 9:07 am

By eyeball, I could cherrypi…er…select the datapoints from approx. 1930-1950 and get the same trend.

MarkW2
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 2:54 pm

Heavens, is that it? No serious scientist would dream of saying that graph revealed anything remotely close to what you’re claiming, Nick. Frankly, it’s farcical. Embarrassing, even.

Reply to  MarkW2
June 18, 2026 5:59 pm

Nick’s a mathematician, not a scientist.

MarkW
Reply to  Chris Hanley
June 18, 2026 3:12 pm

It’s only cherry picking when it doesn’t support the narrative.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 12:07 am

Here is the plot with data averaged annally, to reduce noise, and with the trend since 2000 added.

You know you’ve just fitted the data, dont you?

Science hasn’t predicted or even identified a tipping point that would lead to acceleration. You’ve arbitrarily claimed a change point without the slightest bit of evidence or even analysis.

Science hasn’t identified accelerating radiative imbalance at the TOA.

From a scientific point of view, your claim is garbage.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  TimTheToolMan
June 18, 2026 1:32 am

No tipping point is expected. There has just been gradual warming.

We can barely measure the TOA imbalance at all.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 4:04 am

No tipping point is expected. There has just been gradual warming.

Gradual warming is not acceleration. Acceleration, especially of the alarmist kind that ends with millions of homes underwater, implies faster and faster. The TOA imbalance says gradual warming. You’ve just drawn an acceleration in.

Denis
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 12:59 am

Hmm. Acceleration at the end? Why not draw a green line between 1930 and 1950? It seems even steeper. Or 1870 and 1900, steeper still perhaps? Or the really steep decline just after 1900? Pick a data set, ignore most of the data and you can get any answer you want. That’s not science, its deceit.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Denis
June 18, 2026 1:35 am

The WUWT claim is of no recent acceleration. It’s wrong. What to make of other accelerations is another matter.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 4:07 am

The WUWT claim is of no recent acceleration. It’s wrong. 

Its consistent with the science.

Its not consistent with alarmist science that uses extrapolation (ie fits) to create alarm.

Reply to  Denis
June 18, 2026 6:56 am

It is called data dredging.

Reply to  Denis
June 18, 2026 9:09 am

I just commented on that and picked the same years (1930-1950). So obvious. I guess I should have read through the comments first. Anyway, I guess it’s obvious to anyone except Nick.

DipChip
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 5:35 am

Do a linear trend from 1925 to 1950. It’s happened before so it can happen again.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 6:52 am

Nick, your definition of noise is actually “statistical noise”. It is values that your model cannot predict. Averaging is a statistical procedure to arrive at a single value and has no built-in significance that describes the variance of the data from which it is derived. The variance in the data is simply hidden. You should quote the variance that is derived and propagated from each measurment.

Measurement noise is actually the variance in the measured data, both repeatable and reproducible among other influence quantites.. In other words, measurement uncertainty.

Unless there is an environmental condition that is superimposed on top of sea level change, the measured data has no noise that needs to be removed.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 9:05 am

That’s “just wrong.” taking two datapoints at the end of the series, which themselves might be outliers, creating a short-term trend with them at the end and calling it a significant acceleration is just a pornographic abuse of statistics.

MarkW
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 3:12 pm

If you pick just the last two years, the plot is plumetting.

Reply to  MarkW
June 19, 2026 3:02 am

The very opposite of acceleration..

That is what happens with oscillating data.

It goes up, then it goes down…..

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 9:52 pm

A common WUWT response. It didn’t happen and anyway, it has happened before.

When in fact the best argument is that the extrapolated “acceleration” is not supported by the science. A fit of “acceleration” is not “scientific”, its mathematical and maths is Nick’s strength.

Leon de Boer
Reply to  TimTheToolMan
June 18, 2026 4:20 am

Now that was funny right there.

Reply to  Leon de Boer
June 18, 2026 4:37 am

Yes, by the negative votes, its clear my meaning is beyond most.

Nick claims its a tired old “seen it before argument”. I countered with an argument pointing out the acceleration has no scientific backing and is a mathematical construct which Nick is good at.

Reply to  TimTheToolMan
June 18, 2026 6:58 am

It is called data dredging where parts of data are emphasized in order to “prove” a predetermined conclusion.

Reply to  TimTheToolMan
June 18, 2026 9:13 am

I understood your comment and offset at least one of the negatives. 🙂

Nick is a mathematician.

Mr.
Reply to  TimTheToolMan
June 18, 2026 11:35 am

Yes, Nick frustrates me a fair bit too at times.
For a bloke with such high-functioning numeracy and tech skill levels, Nick often comes out with positions that bear little resemblance to practical real-world conditions, events & observations.

(Mind you, I’ve worked with a few Nicks over my years in the corporate world of commercial IT systems development, implementations & support, and they’ve been geniuses at producing structured program routines for which there were no real-world uses.
One guy earned his PhD for a labor costing system that bore no resemblance to what actually went on in the clients’ operations.
Kinda reminds me of the “wind & solar are so effective, efficient & economical” LCOE claims.)

Nick Stokes
Reply to  TimTheToolMan
June 18, 2026 12:47 pm

Well, I guess it may be tired and old. But my main point was the inconsistency. “it’s happened before” is not support for a claim that it isn’t happening now.

Reply to  Leon de Boer
June 18, 2026 9:12 am

LdB, TTTM is absolutely correct. Nick is a mathematician and math is his strength. Common sense seems to be his weakness.

Most people believe math is a tool to help understand reality. Nick thinks math creates reality.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Phil R
June 18, 2026 12:49 pm

The WUWT claim was that there is no statistically significant acceleration in the Battery record. That is a mathematical claim, and it is mathematically wrong.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 1:37 pm

NO, your cherry-picked trend is mathematically incorrect because it is part of an oscillating system.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 1:39 pm

In my world acceleration is an energy claim. In your world it’s a mathematical one.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 2:27 pm

It’s a statistical claim and your statistics are wrong. And the points made above stand. you could cherrypick any number of short time periods in the long-term data and find acceleration. You can also find deceleration. None are significant compared to the long-term trend.

Reply to  Phil R
June 18, 2026 4:20 pm

Sea level is actually dropping “recently” at Battery Park

Battery-since-2023
Reply to  Phil R
June 18, 2026 4:21 pm

Just as it was between 2010 and 2017.

battery-tide
Reply to  bnice2000
June 18, 2026 6:02 pm

🙂

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 7:59 pm

In the ENTIRE record, not little bits here and there.

paul courtney
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 19, 2026 4:24 am

Mr. Stokes: Your graph may show “acceleration”, but if it’s not “significant”, then the article is mathematically correct. If the “acceleration” you found has been seen before (as many here show, but you deny the relevance) and it wasn’t significant then, it’s relevance becomes so obvious, I wonder why you must brush it off.

You get so much mileage out of a simple word play. Again.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
June 17, 2026 11:43 pm

In fact , If you look at 30 year linear trends, you will see that the period ending in mid/late 1950’s have a larger trend.

But as show elsewhere it is just part of an oscillation..

Here is a study done for Battery Park.

(PDF) Absolute and relative sea-level rise in the New York City area by measurements from tide gauges and satellite global positioning system

The actual real sea level rise at Battery is something like 0.7mm/year, with a very small acceleration.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
June 17, 2026 11:44 pm

Here is the 30 year linear trends graph.

Battery-PArk-30-year-linear-trends
leefor
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 9:02 pm

Ah yes. Homes could be affected, not will be.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 9:32 pm

Would you agree the clay shrinkage could also be due to a growing population extracting more water from the ground?

And to put things in perspective, the BGS find most of the UK to be just fine by 2070:

https://www.bgs.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/BGS_GeoClimate_National_45.webp

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Redge
June 17, 2026 9:47 pm

That would contribute.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 10:29 pm

I think you know what the next, unanswered, questions are, Nick.

By how much and why doesn’t the BGS mention this?

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 11:36 pm

It DOES NOT show any acceleration

Your cherry-pick is part of an oscillation.. in which the trend is now decreasing.

Battery-7-year-linear
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 17, 2026 11:37 pm

A definitive study was done on Battery Park,,,

(PDF) Absolute and relative sea-level rise in the New York City area by measurements from tide gauges and satellite global positioning system

The actual real sea level rise at Battery is something like 0.7mm/year, with a very small acceleration.

““The absolute and relative rates of rise of the sea level are computed for the New York City area by coupling global positioning system records of the position of fixed domes nearby tide gauges, with the tide gauges’ records. Two tide gauges are considered, one long-term trend, more reliable, The Battery, in lower Manhattan, and one shorter, less reliable, Sandy Hook, in New Jersey. The relative rates of rise of the sea level are +2.851 and +4.076 mm/yr. The subsidence rates are -2.151 and -3.076 mm/yr. The absolute rates of rise of the sea level are +0.7 and +1.0 mm/yr.

The relative sea-level acceleration, reliable only in The Battery, is about +0.008 mm/yr².”

Denis
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 12:52 am

The “acceleration” is calculated as 0.008 mm/yr, much too little to be measured in any way. Nick, don’t you get tired of misleading you readers?

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Denis
June 18, 2026 1:36 am

Your units are wrong.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 5:08 am

+0.008 mm/yr² ………… read the paper.

Reply to  bnice2000
June 18, 2026 6:44 am

Exactly, obviously Nick did and Denis didn’t!

Victor
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 4:18 pm

Glacial Isostatic Adjustment (GIA) or post-glacial rebound is the cause of some land areas sinking.
The ice sheet during the Ice Age created a bulge some distance from where the ice sheet ended. It is this bulge that is now sinking

The ice sheet during the Ice Age created a bulge in the crust that is between 50 and 90 meters high in some areas. This bulge causes land subsidence when the bulge sinks back to the original shape of the earth.

For the large ice sheets that covered northern Europe and North America during the last glacial period, state-of-the-art numerical models show that the crest, or the highest point, of the forebulge has a maximum height of approximately 50 meters and 90 meters in these areas, respectively. Additionally, the crest can be one or two hundred kilometers away from the ice margin’s maximum extent around 20,000 years ago.

https://eos.org/editors-vox/how-glacial-forebulges-shape-the-seas-and-shake-the-earth

KevinM
June 17, 2026 8:16 pm

The two stories rhyme. In both cases a long, boring, directly observed record shows a modest, roughly linear trend that has been going on for as long as we have measured it.

This has me wondering about SLR as a dimension-vs-volume problem, like where a birds wing area scales up with the square of an increase but the bird’s weight scales up with the cube of an increase, so the bigger a bird gets the more of its body must be wing and the less of its body can be organs- the reason why there can be no flying whales on Earth. The related idea is that ice melts from its top surface (linear), reducing land coverage area (squared), to produce ocean volume (cubed). It seems to me that SLR, measuring the height of a volume of water, should be less than linear. I need to make a clunky 1990’s VBA script for this. Then I can accuse myself of basing science on models? Of spherical flying whales?

KevinM
Reply to  KevinM
June 17, 2026 8:19 pm

Point is, accelerating melt rate might be required to support linear SLR. I don’t know, need to code it.

Reply to  KevinM
June 18, 2026 6:11 pm

On a volume/ volume basis, it takes approximately 362 km^3 of meltwater to raise global sea level by 1 mm. Glacial melting at the surface over time produces a volume of glacial meltwater. If you can estimate the volume a glacial melting and assume it all ends up in the oceans you can estimate the resulting sea level rise. Bottom line, it’s small (unless, of course, the Greenland ice sheet melts as all of the globoloonies are predicting).

Chris Hanley
June 17, 2026 9:00 pm

somewhere in Whitehall, being quietly folded into the case for a policy

It’s hard to know what more those sad UK folk can do to arrest that sinking feeling, they could cover their entire island with windmills and PV panels and it wouldn’t make the slightest difference.

Robertvd
Reply to  Chris Hanley
June 19, 2026 1:40 am

Or they could move to rising Scotland. Also they tell us the south will become to hot to live. So a win win. Also more daylight hours in Scotland in summer.

June 17, 2026 9:21 pm

The link seems to be broken for me.

This one works.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Redge
June 17, 2026 9:50 pm

Thanks. Yes, it was broken for me too. But the Guardian says nothing about 4 millon homes, or indeed, the high end scenario (whether RCP 8.5 or 7)

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 18, 2026 7:45 pm

But the quoted BGS article, which Charles refers to…. DOES.

bGS-forecast
Reply to  bnice2000
June 19, 2026 3:24 am

I’m glad you pointed that out. I was going to but decided not to waste my time. Nick seems to forget, or ignore, that information in a reference is included by reference.

Reply to  Phil R
June 19, 2026 2:57 pm

Nick was the first one to post that reference to the BGS article, two days ago!
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2026/06/17/four-million-sinking-homes/#comment-4207541

Neil Pryke
June 17, 2026 10:37 pm

We are being lied to, all the time, about the weather…Because it is nominally summer, we are being told to expect a heatwave by the end of June…Considering that there is less than a fortnight until that date…and the figures are for temperatures of unexceptional range…the gullible will fall for it, and forget it within a month…



Robertvd
Reply to  Neil Pryke
June 19, 2026 1:52 am

If you look on a 700hPa weather map you will see that there is air on the move from the Sahara over Spain towards France and the South of Britain. That’s what will bring the warmer weather not CO2.

Mike Larkin
June 17, 2026 11:06 pm

A couple of water level tales from Australia.

Fort Gellibrand, in Port Jackson, aka Sydney harbour, was build in the mid 1800s and a high water mark was noted and marked. It’s still the same mark.

Meanwhile, the Melbourne suburb of Brighton was settled in the early 1840s, a few years before Ft Gellibrand was built, and a number of property boundary fences of the ~ 4′ high post and rail variety were built down the the high tide mark. By the end of the century the tops of the outermost fence posts and sections were under water at low tide.

So why has Port Jackson stayed pretty much constant, but Port Phillip Bay increase more than 4′ in 60 years but stayed stable since?

Leon de Boer
Reply to  Mike Larkin
June 18, 2026 4:40 am

Cautionary tale when using fence posts of old farms … farmers move them because you will amazed how many extra acres you can get by doing so. So my question is are you sure the posts haven’t moved?

We have an old family property that has been in the family since 1850 that backs into a state forest. About 10 years ago we had reason to re-survey the block and we got a good laugh as the boundary fence has been pushed about 35m into state forest land by old ancestors. The amusing part was all the next door blocks had done the same and it was deliberate because we found the original corner markers. It was obviously an attitude that public land was fair game to “Sequester by stealth”.

Reply to  Leon de Boer
June 19, 2026 6:31 pm

farmers move them

Not if they were already at the high tide mark. But even if they were actually a bit above the high tide mark and moved down towards it, there’s still a local 4′ sea level increase if they’re underwater at low tide.

Clearly that’s more than sea level rise, though. There must be subsidence involved and probably a lot of it.

Mr.
Reply to  Mike Larkin
June 18, 2026 4:55 am

Interesting.
Any studies done of say, changes in the contours & sizes of Port Philip tidal channels, sandbanks, deposits of earth fill from urban development, etc etc?

June 18, 2026 6:28 am

Unfortunately lots of houses are being lost on the East coast due to subsidence. Here’s a photo showing the result of a 10m erosion last winter.

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Sorry the images from Google Earth didn’t show up, checkout the images for Hemsby, UK

Reply to  Phil.
June 18, 2026 7:38 am

Building your house along a shoreline cliff…means you were oblivious to how the cliffs formed to start with….

Reply to  DMacKenzie
June 19, 2026 6:31 am

Sorry my reply from yesterday hasn’t shown up, if you look at the Google Earth images you’ll see that the houses which are now on the cliff edge were 60m away with another road between them and the cliff in 1999.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Phil.
June 18, 2026 8:18 am

That coastline has been eroding for many many years. The book ‘Outrageous Waves’ lists 217 named villages destroyed by the sea around the coast of Britain over the last 2 millenia and concedes there are probably many many more for which there are no historical records.

The Humber Estuary, North Lincolnshire , Norfolk and Suffolk and the Broads together have lost 50 villages in the past. Hemsby is on the Norfolk coast.

Robertvd
Reply to  Phil.
June 19, 2026 2:01 am

Where are those happy days that you could walk from Hemsby to the Netherlands.

Edward Katz
June 18, 2026 2:10 pm

The fact that The Guardian ran this story is a virtual guarantee that the information cited is either inaccurate, distorted, exaggerated or an outright lie—end of commentary.

Victor
Reply to  Edward Katz
June 18, 2026 4:34 pm

Some believe that the decline of the ice age is due to humans’ influence on the climate. Humans burned wood at the edge of the ice sheet so that the entire ice sheet melted.

Areas that were depressed by ice are rising. Canada, Scotland, and Scandinavia all have risen 4 to 6 inches over the past century.

Areas that had bulged outward at the edge of glaciers are now sinking, back to pre–Ice Age levels, around 4 inches per century. This can be seen in southern England and Ireland and the northern and middle U.S., including many cities like Chicago, Milwaukee, and Cleveland.

In low-lying near-coastal cities like London and Washington, D.C., falling land levels combined with rising seas from continued glacial melt are making those cities more prone to flooding.

In low-lying near-coastal cities like London and Washington, D.C., falling land levels combined with rising seas from continued glacial melt are making those cities more prone to flooding.

We can expect rising and falling land masses, and associated shoreline changes, as Earth continues its slow motion Ice Age rebound.

https://www.earthdate.org/files/000/001/939/EarthDate_129_C.pdf