By Robert Bradley Jr. — December 2, 2025
“The fact that Roger Hallam wants to use coercive government to impose his ‘solutions’ on others is a bulls-eye refutation that he is more of a megalomaniac than a clear-eyed scholar. His fringe views should be rejected and his proclivity for violence condemned.”
Roger Hallam, cofounder of Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil, as well as a jailbird from his disruptive climate protests, is ready to throw in the towel on Net Zero. Regarding UK climate politics, he posted:
If there is one article to read to understand why the present economic and political arrangements are going to collapse then this is it. There are only two alternatives:
1. The Labour government keeps with the net zero target for 2030, bills rise, Reform gets in and ensures the target is trashed.
2. The Labour government trashes the target itself so bills don’t rise and so creates a chance that Reform won’t get in.
Either way the target is trashed – the world goes over 2C in the 2030s and social/ecological collapse gets locked in. Either way suicidal short term-ism wins, either in its neoliberal version or its fascist version.
But there is an alternative we cannot speak about – which is to tax the rich who created the mass death project in the first place.
The reality is that net zero by 2030 is expensive and that by dashing flat-out towards it, the result will be even higher costs. The price is not coming down; it is going up.
What a depressing — and errant — analysis and outlook. Neo-Malthusianism lives despite the evidence and without a theoretical basis. There is little reason to believe in doomism. The Julian Simon et al. rejoinders are on the shelf and await an open mind.
The fact that Roger Hallam wants to use coercive government to impose his ‘solutions’ on others is a bulls-eye refutation that he is more of a megalomaniac than a clear-eyed scholar. His fringe views should be rejected and his proclivity for violence condemned.
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Roger Hallam describes his story:
As an organic farmer for over 20 years, I could no longer sustain my vegetable growing. The impacts of climate change were decimating the livelihoods of farmers such as myself. Something was very wrong with the world; I could feel it, I could see it and I knew that something had to be done about it as our entire food production system was at stake.
I studied the science and realized beyond unequivocal doubt that the extinction crisis was upon us and that our impending annihilation was being perpetuated by psychopathological criminals who have no interest in the wellbeing of the average human being or the natural world.
Never in doubt, he continues:
Something needed to be done; I gave up everything I had and left for Kings College where I spent the next 4 years sleeping in my car in order to complete my studies in the science of mass mobilization in the tradition of Martin Luther King and Gandhi. I found the answers to the questions I had been seeking. I discovered the actions that we need to take in order to buy ourselves as much time as possible and mitigate indescribable suffering that awaits us as most of the planet becomes uninhabitable and we risk unspeakable horrors such as mass slaughter, starvation and rape, and the rise of fascistic regimes as the scramble for water and land takes off.
Remember the Club of Rome in the early 1970s? “Limits to Growth”? Roger Hallam is in a time warp where he believes that what he believes is real–and sober reality is not.
Tax Nanci Pelosi and Joke Biden and all these left wing billionaires….they have millions and the little children have nothing…give it up Nanci ……for the little children……they are hungry and cold.
Exactly the one % of the one %.
Joe and Nancy never had a real job, therefore a 100% tax would be justified.
But we need to at least acknowledge Pelosis extraordinary trading skills that made her the most successful independent stock traitor in history.
She easily beats legions of topexpers,supercomputers and algorithms combined.
And it must be all fair and square – otherwise the left that is so much about justice,fairness and transparency would protest the hell out of her 🙂
None of the great socialists, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, ever actually had a job of any kind. Stalin’s only job was as a leader of a criminal gang specializing in bank robbing.
Benito Mussolini was a journalist for Avanti the official voice of the Italian Socialist Party.
Then there’s Hollywood…
My favorite post on x regarding Nancy.
”Shut up Nancy and just give us stock tips.”
Why would you only tax left wing billionaires? Right wing billionaires exist too. In fact they’re in the majority: https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasavchuk/2014/07/09/are-americas-richest-families-republicans-or-democrats/
Biodynamic (organic) agriculture was very
popular in the Third Reich. It is appropriate Hallam was an organic farmer.
It apparently took him 20 years to figure out that he was better at scamming than growing vegetables in shit.
X 97 (:-))
You left off that “%” sign.
Yep, and my observation of organic produce is that is a really, really, really niche market.
In many cases, only elite households can afford to buy them at stores.
I enjoyed a Billy Bob Thornton type moment recently when the teenage daughter picked up a 2lb bunch of organic carrots to put in their cart.
Mum looked at the price and said-
“$9 for a small bunch of skinny carrots with dirt still all over them?
Ya gotta be shittin’ me!”
Climate change being responsible for making organic vegetable farming unviable 20 years ago is delusional fiction.
As for the politics or taxation regimes of a small nation with a tiny contribution to CO2 emissions affecting global temperatures in any meaningful way, well, that is complete fiction too.
I think there is a pattern here.
Yes, veggie farming in the UK is just not viable, especially with reefer transport from southern Europe being available. He should have raised cattle or sheep.
Some climate warming might help.
I have the same problems with this because (I’m in Washington State, not the UK) there is much more “organic” produce in markets now than 20 years ago. Many have figured out how to “do organic” while it took Hallam 20 years to determine he couldn’t. Astounding.
He seems to be good at getting involved in non-useful enterprises. Who is paying for this life of uselessness?
{Above, there are comments about Joe B and Nancy P. I don’t think the UK has taxing power over them.}
He is correct about “psychopathological criminals” seeking to doom humanity. Being one, he certainly has insights in that regard that most of us do not enjoy.
It is ironic that Hallam talks about “psychopathological criminals” when, in my mind anyway, he has psychopathological issues himself.
A while back, a psychotherapist on Fox News was interviewed and said he was treating patients with TDS. They admitted to suffering, and one patient said he couldn’t enjoy the vacation he was taking because of his TDS.
Like the TDS sufferers who decided to seek help, Hallam needs to be convinced that the problem is in his head rather than in the world around him. The question is whether anyone around him in the UK will take on the task of trying to convince him.
A degree warmer since 1850 should improve his veggies’ growth. “…Climate change decimating the lives of farmers”…but production of every crop is up, admittedly mostly due to fertilizers….he obviously missed something sleeping in his car while attending King’s College.
What if he had devoted his efforts to mastering organic farming? Others make a good living on this niche method of agriculture, which provides produce at a premium price. There is little evidence that the mild warming we have experienced has damaged crop productivity. Indeed, warmer nights probably helps extend growing seasons and lessens risk of frost damage. He sounds like a poor farmer who is frustrated by ineptitude.
And higher airborne CO2 helps as well.
Per one Russian proverb, a bad dancer is hampered even by his own testicles. Rude, but true, isn’t it…
Reminds one of a certain frustrated painter..
This is very hard-to-grasp economic theory for most of us. But in reality, in the modern western world, “The Rich” have almost NO MONEY. They have GIVEN their money to their bank or investment fund. The bank has lent it out to people who needed it for whatever and promised to pay it back. The bank simply sends a monthly statement to the “rich person”, really an IOU, stating how much money the bank might consider giving back, if the rich person should happen to want it.
This should cause you some concern, if you feel you are reasonably rich as result of those bank statements….because when various countries have become economically strapped, the first thing they do is restrict bank withdrawals to only a couple of hundred dollars per day. This is equivalent to confiscating people’s money and giving them a basic monthly income, while allowing them to feel good about how rich they are based on the monthly IOU statements…..”you’ll have nothing and be happy”….we are much further along this road than we realize.
I believe “restrict bank withdrawals” is how the USA is going to pay down its debt. The government will “freeze” (strip) our IRA and retirement accounts, use the money to pay down the debt and issue us a monthly stipend. Essentially a supersized MRD. Just my thoughts.
Think about it…they already have ALL your money in the “system”…you have nothing but a monthly IOU statement. It’s all good as long as everyone believes everyone else can pay back the loans…it’s all actually worthless pieces of paper that you believe you can get paid back….
What?!?!? You mean they do not have Scrooge McDuck Money Bins!
Outrageous!
No, no money pits…and the ‘rich’ paid about 50% income tax (in most countries) on the money they gave to their banks (that the bank lent out to others a few times over but sends an IOU statement to the “rich” person, who really has nothing left of his money but a monthly stated credit limit). So increasing taxes on the “rich” reduces the amount banks can lend out to deserving borrowers by a multiplying factor (around 10).
And the ‘rich’ often got to be ‘rich’ by supplying goods or services that were so beneficial to the public at large…such that the public was willing to pay part of their hard earned salary to purchase. So calls to tax the rich can be very short sighted….as I said…since the ‘rich’ don’t actually have Scrooge McDuck money pits…their money is in bankers hands…and bankers put it to good use lending it to people with dreams of a house, car, business…And we are actually well past a crossroads where the banks lend out just depositors’ money. That is very old school. Now the banks create tranches of loans and mortgages, and sell them to the government (and each other), and then lend out that money too….since spinning only rich people’s savings through the economy is no longer enough…..
So as a politician, if you decide to tax the rich more…you need to make sure you are going to do something better with it…than the rich guy’s investment banker would have done. Since money is supposed to be a measure of stored up human toil, it needs to be used wisely….lest contributors start noticing that their monetary return on confiscations is not beneficial.
The 1% in this country paid a reported 70% of the taxes collected.
The “Rich” is anyone who even has any money beyond today’s beans and rice allowance.
Your chocolate ration will be increased from 30 grams a week to 15 grams a week.
DM:
Yep!
And we all should very afraid of a CBDC [Central Bank Digital Currency].
It would make government control of your finances much, much easier.
Without a CBDC [here in the US] the government would have to strong-arm the banks
to do their dirty work.
Just look at what Premier Justin Trudeau of Canada Feb 2022 did to the truckers
[froze their bank accounts for protesting Covid vaccine mandates] by declaring
an “Emergency”.
I see I am not the only one concerned about digital currencies.
Who built the factories, the industries, that employ directly or indirectly the population in this and any other country?
The rich.
It was wrong to call it trickle down economics. It should have been called flow down economics aka an economic engine.
You don’t understand banking at all..
I am guilty of simplifying it so that the true essence of the fractional reserve banking system is more apparent as far as “taxing the rich”. Catch up Bally…
Haven’t people outside the UK heard that farmland is earmarked for solar and wind..?
Is that what drives Roger, that his farmland was not bought at exorbitant prices for solar panels or wind turbines?
Global organic land area in 2023 had reached nearly 99 million hectares, up from 74.9 million hectares in 2020, and 14 million hectares in 2000.
The compound annual growth rate in value is expected to climb over 11% towards 2029.
This will last as long as some people are willing to pay premium prices for “organic” produce. I never have.
Indeed, it lives or dies on the fashionable choices of the privileged, not climate change.
Personally ive never eaten an inorganic/ synthetic vegetable although i had once mistaken fake plastic fruit for real. That grape was awful..
That just proves that Hallam is totally incompetent …… also at organic growing.
“Organic” is how I know I need not check the price tag to see how expensive it is, nor check the produce itself for low quality. I now know that poor, poor Roger Hallam was part of that ongoing scam and have even less use for him.
The thing is that he is the fascist.
Part of the fascist manifesto 1919
For this WE WANT:
On the political problem:
On the social problem:
WE WANT:
The reason why organic farmers had trouble surviving is because very few people are willing to pay more for inferior products.
Total fruitcake, or grifter?
I don’t think they’re necessarily mutually exclusive. In fact, they often go hand-in-hand.
I meant my examples as endpoints, there is a spectrum in between.
See Bernie Sanders
Tax the rich? Labour thought of that and they all upped and went.
FFS.
Those who get others to run saying “Tax the Rich!” just want to live in the farmhouse themselves. (Animal Farm reference)
They appeal to the greed and envy of their minions.
Yes, they picked a new boogyman now that AGW has failed. The object is to get other people’s money and nothing more. They will keep trying, and trying, and trying to separate the successful from their money to give it to the unsuccessful. Eventually there will be no successful people to steal it from except other party members who helped move the scam. Those people will be slowly whittled away until there is a core that will control people’s lives and live off the booty. They will become the new ‘elites’, untouchable but always looking over their shoulders.
For some reason, to me «organic farmer» suggests that a full greeting may sound like «I am an unremarkable organic farmer creature. Welcome to our very typical hyu-man domicile, my co-homo sapiens!»
In his screed, Roger states, “As an organic farmer for over 20 years, I could no longer sustain my vegetable growing. ”
A much simpler explanation, and thus more likely to be the case, is that Roger is just a dismally incompetent farmer. LIke all the great socialists, Lenin, Marx, Hitler, he wants to blame someone else for his problems. Perthaps, he’s just lazy and wants the state to look after him. Again, like all the above examples.
An alternative possibility is that he convinced himself the vegetables would grow without any personal effort on his part.
The language used by Hallam describing his epiphany is the language of a crackpot. Swollen prose – I could see, something had to be done, I found the answers – and the use of terminology to impress – unequivocal, indescribable suffering and unspeakable horrors. Meet the half-educated dilettante.
Is Hallam halal?
He’s more haram I think.🦀🦐🐚🐖
Watermelons. Green on the outside. Red on the inside.
Losing is an ugly thing, the ugliest part is not taking responsibility. He is a failed organic farmer yet others are successful, how do they do it maybe you should spend more time with them and stop blaming others. Then he sacrifices it all to get a degree from Kings College in the science (?) of mass mobilization. What the hell is that? I didn’t know you needed a degree to be an agitator. Then he admits he has joined the church of government, a faith that has resolved exactly nothing. Giving more money and power to government has never had a positive outcome. Like I said it is an ugly thing to witness.
In schools, they ban red ink so as to not hurt the kid’s self-esteem.
Why do we fall down? So we can learn how to get back up.
Self-esteem comes from knowing one can overcome obstacles and challenges. Facing your mistakes and learning from them builds self-esteem and self-confidence and self-reliance.
Accept responsibility for you decisions and actions is the only positive way to address the future. You mess up, admit it, do what is needed to correct, learn, and try to not repeat the mistake.
Now adays, no need. The government will bail you out.
Now adays, you do not need to get the correct answer to a math problem as long as you know how it works.
The ugliest part is not taking responsibility. Unfortunately, that is exactly what they are and have (for decades) been teaching kids.
I better stop else I will write an essay.
Now I am depressed. I need a climate change mental health session.
(I just read a different article.)
So, with a nod and a laugh, SARCASM.
Per Roger Hallam as cited in the above article:
“Either way the target is trashed – the world goes over 2C in the 2030s and social/ecological collapse gets locked in. Either way suicidal short term-ism wins, either in its neoliberal version or its fascist version.
But there is an alternative we cannot speak about – which is to tax the rich who created the mass death project in the first place.”
Such humor is not available from even paid career comedians!
1) It’s not clear if Hallam actually has a scientific understanding of atmospheric temperature or not, but I’ll be gracious and just assume he meant that the world’s average temperature would increase by 2°C from an undefined reference point—perhaps the oft-cited “temperature before the Industrial Revolution” (hah!)—by the end of the 2030s. The current average temperature of Earth’s surface atmosphere is about 15°C (59°F). At the UAH scientifically-established linear rate of rise of global average lower atmospheric temperature of +0.16°C/decade, the next 15 years until the end of the 2030s should result in adding an additional 0.24°C (0.43°F). WOW, I never realized the world was so close (temperature-wise) to collapse.
2) There is ZERO objective evidence that the world’s lower atmosphere reaching an average temperature if even 17°C would result in “social/ecological collapse” . . . it’s just so much CAGW alarmist hand-waving.
3) Suicidal short term-ism (assuming that phrase actually has meaning, as opposed to being gobbledygook) would imply that mankind rather than nature is responsible for ALL global warming . . . but there is no evidence to support that, and a lot of objective evidence to refute that, such as the fact that Earth naturally warmed up from its last glacial period starting about 12,000 years ago and yet mankind did not contribute any significant amount of CO2 or other greenhouse gases into Earth’s atmosphere until, at most, 300 years ago.
4) “. . .suicidal . . . either in its neoliberal version or its fascist version . . .” Gee, I have been led to believe that suicide is suicide . . . never knew it came in different versions.
5) If there is “an alternative we cannot speak about” (as Hallam claims), then why does he go forward to mention (“speak”) about it?
6) What-the-eff is the “mass death project” that Hallam says we cannot speak about . . . or can’t he or his compatriots say because they are under double-secret probation? /sarc
7) Finally, the typical liberal response to any perceived problem, “tax the rich”, once again fails to offer any definition of “rich”.
There may be no definition of “rich” from these idiots but one thing is certain: the amount one has to have to qualify for this appellation is coming down all the time. Soon they’ll be taxing themselves. Roll on the day!
He spent 20 years failing to grow vegetables, then was homeless pretending to go to some leftarded college. Why did anyone listen to this failure moron?
So his organic farming failed. Perhaps not enough fertiliser?
Ironic that having near-minimum CO2 level in air might have contributed to his organic farming failures.
C3 plants—about 95% of today’s plants by species, the rest being mostly C4 plants which came later—evolved with atmospheric CO2 levels well above 1000 ppmv, perhaps higher than 5,000 ppmv, during the mid-Ordovician (~470 million years ago) to mid-Devonian (~390 million years ago) periods of Earth’s geologic history.
C3 plants have have a “CO₂ starvation threshold” of around 150 ppmv. During the last glacial period of Earth’s current Quaternary Ice Age, when CO₂ dropped to 180 ppm, C3 plants were under severe stress and Earth was near catastrophic failure of the majority of land life. So, even today with troposphere CO2 concentration of about 420 ppmv, C3 plants are “underfed” compared to levels they are genetically “accustomed to”, which is one of the primary reasons that many major greenhouse growers add supplemental CO2 to greenhouse inside air to increase it to the range of 800-1200 ppmv so as to maximize their greenhouse yields.
Perhaps Roger Hallam was ignorant of this fact?
Perhaps he is just, simply, ignorant.
“The impacts of climate change were decimating the livelihoods of farmers such as myself. Something was very wrong with the world; I could feel it, I could see it and I knew that something had to be done about it as our entire food production system was at stake.”
Wales had a few wet summers, pretty normal for a centennial solar minimum, it was wetter around 1880 in the Gleissberg Minimum. The summers are wetter during warm AMO phases.
“I studied the science and realized beyond unequivocal doubt that the extinction crisis was upon us…”
That’s odd, the Met Office models predict warmer drier UK summers with rising CO2 forcing.