From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Ian Cunningham
Just in time for COP30 – what a coincidence!

The Great Barrier Reef is headed for a “grim future” and will suffer a “rapid coral decline” by 2050 but parts may recover if global warming is kept below 2C, a new study has found.
Researchers at the University of Queensland (UQ) used modelling to simulate the lifecycles of certain coral species and found that some were better at adapting to warmer oceans and could help new coral grow.
Reefs near cooler-water currents were also more resilient, giving a “glimmer of hope” to the natural wonder, which has suffered severe climate-induced heat stress in recent years.
The study warned that curbing carbon emissions was crucial to allow coral to recover and avoid a “near collapse” of the reef.
Dr Yves-Marie Bozec, who led the research, said the modelling of more than 3,800 individual reefs that make up the Great Barrier Reef looked at their “eco-evolutionary dynamics”. This included how corals interact with each other, how they deal with warmer water and corals in naturally cooler areas.
“We ran all of those factors with the most up-to-date climate projections – and the news was not good,” he said.
“We forecast a rapid coral decline before the middle of this century regardless of the emissions scenario.”
The Great Barrier Reef is one of the world’s most biodiverse ecosystems, stretching more than 2,300km (1,400 miles) off Australia’s north-east coast.
It has suffered four significant marine heatwaves between 2016 and 2022, causing much of its coral to expel the algae which gives them life and colour – a process called bleaching, which is often fatal.
A recent report found that parts of the Great Barrier Reef had suffered the largest annual decline in coral cover since records began nearly 40 years ago.
Dr Bozec said some parts of the reef “may partially recover after 2050, but only if ocean warming is sufficiently slow to allow natural adaptation to keep pace with temperature changes”.
“Adaptation may keep pace if global warming does not exceed two degrees by 2100. For that to happen, more action is needed globally to reduce carbon emissions which are driving climate change.”
Dr Bozec said: “The window for meaningful action is closing rapidly but it hasn’t shut”.
Under the Paris agreement, almost 200 nations have pledged to limit global temperature rises to 1.5C and to keep them “well below” 2C above those recorded in pre-industrial times, generally considered to mean the late 19th Century.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx274lj661lo
Now I wonder why 2C has so much significance? Or 2050? Could it be that they are crucial elements of the Paris Agreement?
Why not 2060, or 2070, or 2045?
And given that we have supposedly already has 1.5C of warming since the 1800s and the world’s coral remains as abundant ever, I hardly think another half a degree will make the slightest difference.
This new study, as seems to be the case with every alarmist study these days, does not analyse historical data. Instead it, in its own words, simulates coral eco-evolutionary dynamics across 3800 reefs of Australia’s Great Barrier Reef under current climate projections. In other words, good old computer modelling!
You might have though that if the world’s coral, or the Great Barrier Reef itself, was already under so much stress, the data would be readily available to prove it. After all, we have supposedly had four significant marine heatwaves in the last decade alone on the GBR.
But the study does attempt to analyse or present this data, because the authors know full well the answers would destroy their agenda – not to mention the chance for more grant money.
The whole basis of their argument is, in any case, illogical. The world’s coral has been in existence for thousands of years. The GBR, for instance, is believed to have started growing about 8000 to 10000 years ago, as sea levels rose at the end of the Ice Age. It actually sits atop older limestone platforms from Pleistocene-era reefs.
The reef is remarkably resilient, having endured multiple cycles of bleaching and recovery and climate swings. The same of course applies to reefs elsewhere in the world.
Corals would in fact thrive in a warmer world, spreading to seas that are currently too cold.
But this study misunderstands the science of ocean warming. Seas are not warmed by the atmosphere, but by the sun. That is why tropical seas are warmer than the North Sea – because the sun’s energy is more concentrated in the Tropics. Indeed seas warm the atmosphere not the reverse.
Also the higher sea levels predicted would offset higher sea temperatures. Corals are most affected by heat when exposed to the sun when sea levels drop, which occurs during El Nino on the GBR. Higher sea levels would therefore protect the reef from excessive exposure to the sun.
I’ll leave it to Dr Peter Ridd to summarise the facts, rather then the myth the BBC peddles:



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BBC apparently unaware that Indonesia has better coral than GBR (subjectively) and is significantly warmer. The warm species will migrate south to pastures anew, and the current GBR species will extend southwards and/or dive deeper. Corals were here long before us and will long outlive homo sapiens. nice paper on reefs adapting https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-45188-x
Abstract
Effects of combined rising sea temperature and increasing sea level on coral reefs, both factors associated with global warming, have rarely been addressed. In this ~40 y study of shallow reefs in the eastern Indian Ocean, we show that a rising relative sea level, currently estimated at ~11 mm y−1, has not only promoted coral cover but also has potential to limit damaging effects of thermally-induced bleaching. In 2010 the region experienced the most severe bleaching on record with corals subject to sea temperatures of >31 °C for 7 weeks. While the reef flats studied have a common aspect and are dominated by a similar suite of coral species, there was considerable spatial variation in their bleaching response which corresponded with reef-flat depth. Greatest loss of coral cover and community structure disruption occurred on the shallowest reef flats. Damage was less severe on the deepest reef flat where corals were subject to less aerial exposure, rapid flushing and longer submergence in turbid waters. Recovery of the most damaged sites took only ~8 y. While future trajectories of these resilient reefs will depend on sea-level anomalies, and frequency of extreme bleaching the positive role of rising sea level should not be under-estimated.
I’m more concerned about rising seas sinking boats, or that islands like Guam will capsize.
Oprah is about to land in Guam next week,
so the Island will capsize for sure.
But I’m more concerned about the following tsunami.
GBR absolutely LUVS warm water.
Otherwise it wouldn’t grow so near the equator.
Water in the region near the GBR is currently significantly cooler than it has been for most of the last 10,000 year..
No need for alarm, the Great Barrier Reef corals have all been eaten.
The WWF in 2015 said –
“Right now the Great Barrier Reef is being eaten alive by a crown-of-thorns starfish outbreak”
10 years later, anybody claiming to see live coral is obviously imagining things.
The World Wildlife Foundation employs experts, don’t they? Experts are never wrong, if they’re promoting doom, gloom, and despondency.
Fake News: The BBC Pushes Reef Scare Again
There’s no need to elaborate when you mention “BBC” and “fake news”.
We all know.
There is no need to mention fake news when you mention BBC ( or any other 3 letter institution) .
It’s redudant
Coral reefs have seen ice ages come and go over the millions of years. Humans, like being sea lice riding a polyp, will just get flicked off as we become extinct and corals will just keep on keeping on… hopefully, BBC will become extinct first…
Well, it’s CON30.
And everytime the COP is going on it is being complemented by looming catastrophies.
It is essential part of their AGW sales and shock&awe strategy.
Then the climate catastrophy is everything,everywhere all at once
and we get hammered by inconvenient truths(that’s enough cheap movie puns for today)
The fake news promulgated by the Beep has now migrated from the biased reporting of bad weather events and fantasy models to the political scene. There the fakers will discover that people take notice of falsehoods. And it will bite them in a place where it really hurts.
The planet Earth is currently in an Ice Age, with prolonged glacial advances and shorter glacial retreats. The GBR started 8,000 to 10,000 years ago, ie, when the planet entered a glacial retreat phase (sounds like the GBR likes warm seawater), and 40 years of human records allow some sectors of Science (maybe the Political Science sector?) to know everything about the GBR future?
Of course a few years of records is enough.
They only had a handful years of ozone layer data, yet they instantly knew that CFC’s are punching holes into the ozone.
They never really bothered about stuff like :
Why does the damage happen thousands miles away from the points of release.
Why is the antarctic Ozonehole way bigger though only a fraction of CFC’s have been released in the southern hemisphere ?
“The Great Barrier Reef is one of the world’s most biodiverse ecosystems, stretching more than 2,300km (1,400 miles) off Australia’s north-east coast.”
Most biodiverse systems are biodiverse because they have successfully lived through changes in their ecosystem. Warmer may hurt a few species, but others will thrive.
Shock horror.
A model designed to give a scare story, gives a scare story.
In reality:
… The GBR spans temperature regimes from warm to cool.
… Red Sea corals live in much warmer waters, than the GBR.
If they truly think the GBR is threatened by warmth, they should transfer Red Sea corals to the northern GBR region.
RE
“But the study does attempt to analyse or present this data, because the authors know full well the answers would destroy their agenda – not to mention the chance for more grant money.”
Should be –
“does NOT attempt . . . “
?
“And given that we have supposedly already has 1.5C of warming since the 1800s and the world’s coral remains as abundant ever, I hardly think another half a degree will make the slightest difference.”
This temperature is an average of all the temperature readings around the globe which are also not uniformly spaced and cover temperature ranges from -80C to +50C with the added characteristics of varying amounts of moisture along with varying wind speeds from 0 mph to 200 mph. A half a degree ‘increase’ in a global average temperature tells us nothing about what that means, if anything.
If corals fear heat , how come the chose to grow in the warmest seas ?
“Dr Bozec said: “The window for meaningful action is closing rapidly but it hasn’t shut”.
That is the story they have been telling us for decades now. Will that story survive another 10?
Of course they can never have that ‘window’ shut because there would be no point. That is what ‘on message’ means.
And we have had warmer periods before without consequences.
So, the question is: show me the data when warming progressed and coral reefs diminished?
Tough one, innit?
I am Australian and old. The Great Barrier Reef over the years has had continual reports about its demise it got so bad at one stage that tourism interests complained about the fact it was affecting their business. I first memory was a diving couple who claimed it was being eaten by the crown of thorns this was a diving couple who I think actually were using this to get publicity. The fact is there is far more coral reef around the equator than off the coast of Queensland even though it is very large I think there are nearly 3000 reefs. The alarmists will pick one or two and use their condition to predict for the whole reef. The whole eastern seaboard of Australia I understand long time ago rose I’m not sure what the mechanism was. Coral reefs occur at sea level so a layman such as I thinks the best thing that could happen as far as the compressed barrier reef is concerned is a rise in sea level and an increase in temperature. This would enlarge is the reef significantly. I have been seeing things about its demise for at least 50 years a bit like those of the we are all doomed fraternity. Also as I understand it Ridd was cast out for asking for more rigor in the University he was employed by! It seems for the University that it was more about funding than fact.
“But this study misunderstands the science of ocean warming. Seas are not warmed by the atmosphere, but by the sun. That is why tropical seas are warmer than the North Sea – because the sun’s energy is more concentrated in the Tropics. Indeed seas warm the atmosphere not the reverse.”
Doesn’t this statement seem to be one of the more important concerning CAGW? If the atmosphere doesn’t warm the ocean then CO2 in the atmosphere can’t warm the ocean. For me it would seem this single statement counters much of what the CAGW fanatics are harping about.
Amen
So where was the great coral reef extinctions during the past three optimums (Roman, Medieval, Holocene)?
Having just gotten back from a scuba diving trip to the Flynn, Thetford, Milln, and Pellowe reefs off Cairns, I can confirm from first-hand evidence that there is nothing wrong with any of them. That’s only 4 reefs, but if the corals were generally having problems with the CO2 levels or sea temperatures, these reefs should have shown it, and they didn’t. Case closed!