From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Philip Bratby
The wind industry must be getting really desperate now!
From the Guardian:

Wind power has cut at least £104bn from energy costs in the UK since 2010, a study has found.
Users of gas have been among the biggest beneficiaries, the research suggested.
Research by University College London found that from 2010 to 2023, energy from windfarms resulted in electricity bills being lower by about £14.2bn than they would have been if gas had been needed to generate the same amount of power.
However, the reduction in the cost of gas that could be attributed to wind generation – owing to the cut in demand and not needing to build new infrastructure – was much greater, at about £133.3bn.
Over the same period, consumers paid about £43.2bn in green subsidies, levied on electricity bills rather than gas bills. The net result was a reduction of £104.3bn in UK energy bills over the 13-year period, according to the researchers.
Surging renewable energy generation across Europe made demand for gas – and thus gas prices – lower than they would otherwise have been, and meant electricity companies had less need to build costly new gas-fired power stations, according to the analysis. The way that the UK’s energy market works also means gas-fired power stations are in effect allowed to set the price of electricity.
Believe our computer models, not your lying eyes!
I’m sure the British public, suffering under the highest electricity bills in the world, know in their hearts that they are actually £100 billion better off!
Pull the other one, it’s got bells on!
The report itself is here. Let’s go through the numbers.
It claims that wholesale power costs would have been £14.2 billion lower for the 2010 to 2023 period. This is because of what is known as the Merit Order Effect.
In essence, day-ahead power prices are set by highest accepted bid, normally gas plants. The more wind power there is on the system, the less gas there is, meaning that the marginal price tends to be slightly lower.
We can accept in principle the saving of £14.2 billion they have calculated. Over 14 years it is insignificant against the £70 billion + cost of the electricity market. And as they admit, direct subsidies for wind add up to £43.2 billion for the same period.
However, it is important to note that the marginal cost of gas power is made much higher by the inefficient, intermittent operation forced on it by intermittent renewables. I suspect this factor alone has wiped out the theoretical savings espoused in the report.
But it is the bigger “saving” of £133.3 billion which is contentious, to say the least!
The logic is that the increased amount of wind power in the UK has reduced international demand for natural gas, thus reducing the international price. Hence, lower electricity prices, not to mention gas prices for households! Hey Presto!
Their model calculates that international gas prices would be more than double what they are now, if it was not wind power. But their calculations are based on the whole of Europe, which plainly is a nonsense when they are only considering UK subsidies for wind power.
However the UK only consumes less than 2% of the world’s natural gas. It is absurd to suppose that the tiny reduction in UK consumption since 2010, 35 bcm out of a global total of 4015 bcm in 2023, has had any tangible effect at all.
Moreover, the model ignores market realities – that increased demand incentivises increase in supply, thus keeping prices in equilibrium.
Nor is the European market for gas as insular as the model supposes. As the Energy Institute’s Review of Energy shows, LNG prices are pretty much aligned worldwide. It was only the short term lack of LNG processing and shipping capacity that caused problems in 2022/23, coupled of course with overreliance on Russian pipelines.
The extra long term demand for gas in the UK, which the model presupposes, could easily have been supplied from the world market without price ramifications.
The model also assumes that without new wind power, more new gas capacity would have been needed, thus adding further cost. But this ignores the fact that we already have adequate CCGT capacity. (It is rather the closure of coal power plants which have squeezed capacity margins)/
All this is theoretical. But what is not are all the other costs of integrating intermittent wind power, which this study ignores. For instance:
- Provision of standby capacity
- Grid balancing and storage
- The inefficient working of CCGT plants, due to intermittent operation
- Constraint payments to wind farms
- Grid upgrades and connections to remote wind farms
The report concludes that we should all be grateful for wind power, without which our record electricity prices would have been even higher still!

The report is clearly an attempt to justify a predetermined conclusion.
As such it is worthless junk.
FOOTNOTE
The two first named authors, O’Shea and Horne appear to be hedge fund managers.
It is worth noting though that the third, Mark Maslin, is a long term climate activist. It was Maslin who ludicrously wrote a paper a few years ago, which blamed the Little Ice Age on the death of 56 million people in South America, following the Spanish colonisation in the 1600s. This despite the fact that the Little Ice Age had begun 300 years earlier!
He has also written several climate propaganda books, including How to Save Our Planet: The Facts in 2021, which received rave reviews from Christiana Figueres, Greenpeace and the BBC!
It is not clear exactly what qualifications he brings to an analysis of energy costs.
The fact that the report’s conclusions align with Maslin’s political agenda is, I am sure, purely coincidental!
In other news …
Microsoft and Constellation Energy expect to bring Three Mile Island’s Unit 1 reactor—now renamed the Crane Clean Energy Center—online by 2027, one year ahead of the original 2028 timeline.
This accelerated restart is part of a 20-year power purchase agreement between Microsoft and Constellation Energy, aimed at supplying carbon-free electricity to Microsoft’s data centers. The reactor, which was shut down in 2019 for economic reasons, is undergoing a $1.6 billion refurbishment that includes restoring the turbine, generator, transformer, and control systems.
Restart Timeline: Originally planned for 2028, now expected in 2027.
Renovation Scope: Includes major equipment upgrades and regulatory approvals from the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission and state agencies.
Staffing & Progress: Constellation reports reaching 65% staffing and successful operation of key systems like the main generator and turbines.
Grid Impact: Once operational, the plant will add 835 megawatts of carbon-free electricity to the PJM grid, supporting Microsoft’s AI and cloud computing growth.
Economic Boost: The restart is projected to generate 3,400 jobs and contribute $16 billion to Pennsylvania’s GDP
via Copilot AI.
Which one do you believe?
Er, isn’t Copilot an MS product?
When it comes to practicalities like construction, refurbishment etc one should expect the unexpected. In a nuclear facility there’s bound to be quite few unexpected delays. But it is doable.
CoPilot is MS product. I caught CoPilot in a lie last month. I asked 3 clarifying questions which forced it to finally admit what it was saying was not true. grok and Chat got it right the first time.
Don’t Believe Your Lying Eyes!
You can say that again-
Dozens arrested in Operation Ironside sting across South Australia
That’s the problem for AI and anything digitally presented. Trust!
I skimmed the article. Couldn’t see anything describing actual crimes.
“She said those arrested are facing a raft of charges including drug trafficking, drug manufacturing and money laundering offences.”
Yeah, I believe that’s what’s known as peeing on your leg and telling you it’s raining.
My electricity bill Kwh rates say otherwise. Its worse than lying its delusional and fraudulent.
For some reason those computer models always make the mistakes and adjustments in favor of the same narrative and agenda.
No matter how obvious and trivial the matter, they somehow always manage to get the wrong results.
You and most other readers – so who was the article written for?
Is anybody actually stupid enough to believe this “study”. This must rank as one of the most blatant pieces of propaganda that I have ever read.
Is anybody actually stupid enough…
Step forward, Ed Miliband. He can quite easily believe 6 utterly absurd things before breakfast (preferably not a bacon sandwich, though).
It’s full steam ahead in 6th form college…
“…as attribution science, climate litigation and grassroots activism grow, accountability for climate impacts is no longer a question of if but when.” – The Guardian
Their new scare statistic? Not Hiroshima bombs per whatever it was, but… “Rising heat kills one person a minute worldwide“
And he’s getting pretty fed up with it!
“They” are getting pretty fed up with it.
Pronouns are what determine the credibility of media content these days 🙄🥴🤡🐑
“Rising heat kills one person a minute worldwide“.
Since cold kills ten times as many people as heat, this implies that reducing cold saves 10 people a minute worldwide.
What a coincidence. A sucker is born every minute as well. We need to abolish minutes!
Stop the planet from rotating!
Stop the orbit around the sun/barycenter!
Problem solved! No more minutes.
In fact, we now have infinite time! 🙂
Cue the outrage crowd with pre-made signs! 😆😅🤣😂
I can guarantee that all of our climate trolls will not only believe it, but before the end of the year be quoting it.
Energy and their wholesale mismanagement of it is one facet of the continuing – in the current parlance – governmental breakdown with each week bringing yet another crisis or three.
It should be noted that the solitary, single minister Starmer fired at his latest reset/reshuffle has just been elected to Deputy leader of the Labour party by the membership of the party. And so…
“Sometimes a small detail in a news story tells you more than a months-long investigation splashed across the front page.
‘Starmer appears to realise that he needs to do more to connect with his party and has begun a new charm offensive,’ the Sunday Times reported. Some MPs have been invited for breakfast and ‘No. 10 has apparently purchased a new toaster to cater for the demand.’
There we have it, ladies and gentlemen. Keir Starmer’s secret weapon in his war against British decline: a few slices of Hovis and an awkward offer of jam.” The Spectator
But overall there remains that vacuum at the top – the empty suit known as Kier Starmer. Forget being reasonably self sufficient in food with the additional bonus of the huge gas and coal reserves we have. This is the ideology to end all the other ideologies.
More than a tenth of farmland to become solar farms or eco habitats in net zero drive
The proposal will see significant areas of countryside converted to solar farms, tree planting and habitat improvements for birds, insects and fish. The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs estimates that nine per cent of farmland would need to be removed from food production by 2050 to meet green targets. – GBN
This is what it’s like when there is no leadership, no vision, no identifiable destination. It’s following Starmer’s own particular weird take on international law on a daily basis. And always at our expense.
So there will be habitats for birds and insects so that they can be killed by wind turbines. Plus almost 10% of food-producing land will be taken out of production. Are there any adults in charge?
Don’t Believe Your Lying Eyes – and the reasons just increase in number…
Story tip
Bill Gates: Climate Change is Not the End of the World
Gates has rejected a “doomsday view” of climate change, saying it will not lead to humanity’s demise, in the latest example of elite backtracking on Net Zero following public backlash at the rising costs and harms. The Times has more.
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Gates, 70, warned that the climate community was overly focused on “near-term emissions goals”, while diverting resources away from efforts to improve humans’ lives in a warming world. – Daily Sceptic
He’s changed his tune…
“…suggests that he’s excited about new ways to make wind and solar power available to people even at night, on overcast days, or in areas that don’t get much sun or wind ever — like through batteries that have huge storage capacity. He’s also seen ideas for ways to use solar energy to produce fuel.” – Business Insider
Didn’t we have this recently?
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/10/28/bill-gates-walks-it-back-disaster-isnt-imminent/
Goebbels had a point, don’t you think?
So Bill Gates, recognized genius, is backtracking on global climate change, while Governments are increasing the “investment” in renewables?
He’s not backtracking at all. See his quotes in the recent article here about the reports of his supposed backtracking.
Gates still believes in the non-catastrophe and the non-solutions. As the recent related article shows by his own quotes.
Mark Maslin is getting hammered on ‘The Conversation’ on this article.
If wind power is so cheap and the market price is set by high price gas, why did Orsted cancel their wind power project when they could have made cheap wind power and sell it at the high market price set by this incredibly expensive gas?
Feel free to join in the comments there…..
The Conversation? The Conver… sion.
I like The Monologue.
Don’t the conversation mods reject any comments that challenge the “settled science” narrative?
Err…we have some revised wind output figures chaps-
Ed Miliband admits wind farms will generate less power than thought
the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero (DESNZ) had cut the ‘load factor’ – the proportion of the year turbines are expected to generate power – from 61 per cent to 43.6 per cent for offshore wind.
The estimated load factor for onshore turbines was also revised down, from 48.7 per cent to 33.4 per cent, according to the newspaper.
The changes were blamed on new modelling showing that wind turbines generated less power at various wind speeds than previously thought, as well as updated assumptions on what can cause turbines to lose power.
They are the very model of a major modern modeller
But the new, reduced, load factors are based on computer modelling. Why should anyone believe those models?
Unfortunately, one’s utility bill might say otherwise not only the monthly cost, but the rate per KWH. Neither have come down. All the analysis won’t convince the end user to this deception and fraud.
My wife an I were in a video call with her youngest brother and his wife, who live in Hampshire, the other day. It was about 8 PM their time. They were dressed in multiple layers of clothes, including heavy sweaters. They stated that it was cold in the house. I expect that they’ve turned down their thermostats. Just a sample of a fantastic centrally-planned energy system.
Talking of lying eyes…..
Jamaica hit by the most powerful hurricane ever? Nasty, but difficult to believe winds were much over 100, let alone 185 mph claimed from what I’ve seen so far.
Recollections of Jamaican hurricanes:-
https://oletimesumting.com/2016/06/05/killer-hurricanes/
Melissa had the third lowest minimum barometric pressure ever recorded for an Atlantic storm. Which still is no proof that total cyclonic energy has been increased by manmade carbon dioxide emissions.
Is Jamaica in the Atlantic?
If I recall correctly, the most powerful Cat 5 was in the 1930s.
Hurricane Wilma, 2005 882 millibars
Typhoon Tip, 1979 870 millibars
Hurricane Melissa, 2025 892 millibars
1935 Labor Day hurricane 892 millibars
However, I was not up on current assessments. I was under the impression that powerful was windspeed. Saffir-Simpson scale.
The minimum central pressure at sea level is used to compare tropical cyclones because the measurements are easier, and use consistent methodology worldwide; in contrast to the difficult to estimate maximum sustained winds, whose measurement methods vary widely.
Yes, I was impressed by the reports that it was the worst storm ever. Later reposts toned it down to worst storm recorded.
And yesterday was the hottest October 28th recorded in Los Angeles.
Ha ha ha it’s the Guardian, what do you expect?
What do you call someone who can’t count? A green socialist.
All you need to know is that the more wind and solar you have the higher your energy bill will be. Take away government support and mandates and wind and solar go away.
AS usual, The Guardian glosses over a few key facts. If wind and solar power were really so cost-effective, they would be supplanting, not merely supplementing, fossil fuels. Instead, despite record growth in renewable investments during the past few years, fossil fuels continue to dominate the global energy market by a wide margin and show few indications of any decline. So The Guardian continues to accentuate minor energy achievements while downplaying or ignoring the entire picture because doing so doesn’t fit its alarmist commitments.
The Guardian doesn’t merely gloss over inconvenient facts, it outright lies.
Fun fact: until the evidence became overwhelming this vile, mendacious rag ran several articles downplaying or even dismissing reports of the worst scandal in modern British history, namely that of Pakistani rape gangs in Rotherham and elsewhere.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” ― George Orwell, 1984