From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Paul Kolk
Trust the BBC to publish this load of nonsense!
Some of the United Kingdom’s most valued trees are struggling to keep pace with climate change and increasing extreme weather.
“We are very concerned that changing conditions are putting our trees under significant stress,” warns Dr Eleanor Tew from Forestry England.
To future-proof our forests, a ‘species for the future’ list has been released highlighting thirty trees likely to thrive in a warmer climate.
It includes familiar names like oak, birch, and alder, alongside less common species such as coast redwood and Corsican pine, which it is hoped will lead to a more resilient woodland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/c0jdp9wynn7o
Oak, birch and alder? What, like the trees that have always grown in the British Isles?
Has anybody seen our forests “under stress”? I take my dog for walk round the local woods most days, and all the trees look as healthy as they ever have.
It is worth noting that Dr Eleanor Tew has no experience in actual forestry work.
Since leaving Cambridge University, she has worked for Forestry England. Her work focuses on the practical application of forest resilience and natural capital concepts, embedding these into day-to-day decision-making. Her academic background is in ecology, conservation and environmental economics, with a PhD from the University of Cambridge exploring natural capital optimisation in UK forestry.
Maybe she should spend a couple of years doing actual forestry work; then she might stop writing this sort of nonsense.
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It’s water that trees need…water that is mismanaged by the incompetent and venal water companies…
Trees use rain, not tap-water.
Though perhaps you were just taking the opportunity to have a pop at the b*******s at Thames Water.
Yes, trees need water, but she conveniently neglected to mention that in higher CO2 environments, trees need LESS water to thrive as the tree leaves’ stomata that absorb CO2 and lose water via transpiration are open for shorter periods since the leaves are more quickly able to absorb CO2, so less water is lost and thus less water is needed-one reason for the greening of the earth in a higher CO2 laden atmosphere.
Fake news…
Some of the United Kingdom’s most valued trees are struggling to keep pace with climate change and increasing extreme weather.
Utter nonsense. What extreme weather? If anything, I suppose you could call the weather extremely dull.
They really do take us for low information fools.
Extreme [lack of] weather update:
Windless Week Leaves Britain Totally Dependent on Imported Electricity – Daily Sceptic
To read the rest of this article, you need to donate at least £5/month or £50/year to the Daily Sceptic, then create an account on this website. T
I could just make stuff up like the alarmists do…. but I don’t.
You need an account for most sites these days, be it the Telegraph, FT, NYT, LAT and Times etc. etc.
Have you complained to them or did you take out a subscription?
What is the benefit derived from BBC broadcasting nonsense?
I ask because they seem to make a habit of doing just that. Whether it is the endless claim of catastrophic climate change, or lack of ice for polar bears to haul out on when hunting seals, or tumbling walrus due to rapid climate change, rapid sea level rise that isn’t happening or coral bleaching presented as an unusual event when it is part of coral habit.
What is the upside for them to be wrong and shown up to be wrong?
If anyone knows the answer I am genuinely interested to hear it.
They don’t like to let the facts get in the way of a good story. All journos are the same – hadn’t you noticed?
The real time forest catastrophe here in south Ontario has been the emerald ash borer. My arborist estimates 20%of our local forests have been annhialated. It’s a disaster, but of course, other species will move in.
On the other hand ALL of our forests were totally eliminated in the last ICE AGE!
The shift from objective journalism to advocacy journalism has been ongoing for decades and has taken root in most major media and a lot of smaller ones, too.
What is the benefit derived from BBC broadcasting nonsense? I ask because they seem to make a habit of doing just that.
Once upon a time the BBC and Josef Goebbels were locked in a battle of propaganda. Today, the BBC is almost untouchable, but the principles of propaganda and the lessons learned remain the same…
If you tell a lie, tell a big one.
If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.
The English follow the principle that when one lies, it should be a big lie, and one should stick to it.
A media system wants ostensible diversity that conceals an actual uniformity
During a war, news should be given out for instruction rather than information. Dr J. Goebbels
Which results in headlines such as:
Our oceans and the fight against climate change – BBC
I just followed your link to the BBC – holding my nose, these days, alas – and one of their references for this is a WEF propoganda fundraising piece. So, the BBC just continues to betray its charter. I look forward to the cleanout.
The BBC was originally formed to educate, inform and entertain the public. But in these Orwellian times the BBC in fact stupefies, misinforms and bores.
I think the BBC rewrote the charter themselves.
The one I like most . . . well, no, treat with utter derision – the Maldives should have been totally underwater by 2018. It’s only one example, though. But you’ve got to laugh – extreme hurricane activity predicted, all caused by catastrophic anthropogenic global warming . . . but when nothing happens, the same bloody idiotic argument is used. What are we dealing with here – downright dishonesty; downright utter stupidity . . . or both?!! And why?!!
Well we did have the problem with Horse Chestnut leaf blotch some while back and most recently Ash dieback and there was a report recently about Ips typographus affecting spruce but how much of this was due to being an EU member with uncontrolled movement of plant material between member states.
Back in the 1990s, softwood cargoes imported into the UK from USSR were subject to Forestry Commission inspection before being allowed to unload but cargoes from Finland and later Estonia and Latvia were not checked at all even though there were no differences in the way the timber was prepared for export between USSR and EU countries.
The trees just need to chillax, and continue taking advantage of the extra CO2 we are giving them. They’re welcome.
I was in the Harz area of Germany a few years ago. Dead and dying trees all over the place. This was blamed on climate change. Strange how the trees in other areas of Germany were doing just fine. They also claimed that they were replacing the dead trees with species more resilient to climate change.
It also reminds me of a BBC programme put out in 1985. This was a German language series. One episode looked at trees supposedly dying from acid rain. What became of that, I wonder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwMCmNkAAJA&list=PLt6NoCieiwOxD7wNZMa79LrKeJ3yJInRT&index=14
The main danger to trees in Germany these days is from Greens wanting to install wind turbines.
Reminds me of a story about some Soviet era military construction that was being done in the woods, somewhere in Poland or Germany. When they were done they disguised the area by replanting it with trees.
The problem was the trees they replanted weren’t the same species as the native trees. In the summer, the disguise was perfect. In the fall and spring, the reconstructed areas stood out like sore thumbs.
To check on UK temperatures to went to:
https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/countries/united-kingdom/average-temperature-by-year. In 1901 the average annual temperature was 11.8° C and by 2024,it had increase to 12.9° C., i.e., there has been little change in temperature after over a century.
This new website facilitates the easy acquisition and display of weather and climate data from any site in NOAA’s data base. For London I went to:
https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/london-heathrow/average-temperature-by-year. The Tmax and Tmin data are displayed in table. You can use the “Select City” option to go other cities. Enter the name of the city starting with a capital letter in the box. If the data for the city is NOAA’s data base, it will appear below the box. Click on it to get the data.
On the home page: http://www.extremeweatherwatch.com there are links in light blue to many sites located around the world.
According to the link as printed above, London is Heathrow?
If you go to:
https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/london/average-temperature-by-year, a 404 error is displayed.
I then went to:
https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/adelaide/average-temperature-by-year. In the “Select City” box, I entered: London and there was displayed below the box: London-Heathrow and London, Kentucky. I clicked on “London-Heathrow.
The temperature data I posted for the UK are the Tmax values. The Tmin values are: 2024: 6.9° C and 1901: 4.7° C.
The Tavg values are: 2024: 9.9° C and 1901: 8.3° C.
After a over a century, the slight increase of 1.6° C would probably have little effect on tree growth.
Trees aren’t generally exhibiting any unusual symptoms of stress this year. The BBC have all the usual lines they pull out about false autumn, late autumn, early autumn, lack of autumn colour, exceptional autumn colour… all blamed on climate change of course. It gets so ridiculous they end up trotting out completely contradictory signs in the same year.
There have been years so dry trees looked completely dead by September, years with summer storms so bad all the leaves were wind-whipped burnt and dead by now. It’s just weather, and they come back just fine the next year.
In 1975 and 1976 there were two successive dry years and there were a lot of shallow rooted trees such as beech that suffered badly.
This year there don’t seem to have been that many trees affected.
Even the elms that usually suffer from Dutch Elm disease each summer were late showing symptoms.
On the other hand it has been an excellent mast year with trees laden with acorns, beech mast and walnuts.
At least on this side of the pond, all of our tree species have ranges that spread well over 1000 miles north and south. This covers temperature changes of at least 15 to 20 degrees F.
For some reason I have a hard time believing that a few tenths of a degree is going to put any plant, or animal for that matter, in danger of extinction.
As for more severe weather, I’m still waiting for that to finally start occurring.
As far as importing new “heat tolerant” species, I thought environmentalists were opposed to invasive species?
All the above mentioned species thrive (even self sow) here in southern Australia where the average temperature is upwards of 10 degrees C higher than the UK. All they need is water. End of story.
I think: there is an even more stupid headline:
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/rain-causes-wildfires-the-climate-change-gospel-according-to-the-met-office/
Jimmy, I just can’t get more drunk…
Mercy, have liver on ne !!!
At the end of the article, which points out how ridiculous the MO claims are:
Overall, the Met Office study dishonestly cherry-picks the regions where fire activity was above normal last year, blames it on climate change, and ignores all the other places where it was below average.
And then proceeds to claim: ‘The latest State of Wildfire report is building unequivocal evidence of how climate change is increasing the frequency and severity of extreme wildfires.’
And they call it science!
FYI, the Palisades fire was cause by an arsonist and was made worse by poor forest management and population encroachment on the forest.
More rain does mean more fuel to burn.
Though it wasn’t all that long ago that environmentalists celebrated more growth.
I had to look it up:
“Natural capital is the world’s stock of natural resources, which includes geology, soils, air, water and all living organisms. Some natural capital assets provide people with free goods and services, often called ecosystem services. All of these underpin our economy and society, and thus make human life possible.[3][4]”
It is from Wikipedia.
I blame the sun going down (not the planet rotating) for it getting dark at night.
Now, I need $1T to develop the model to prove this.
The UK has about 32 native tree species, while there are hundreds, if not thousands, of non-native tree species in the UK, though the exact number of tree-specific species is not precisely documented, it’s part of a larger group of over 2,000 non-native plant and animal species that have been introduced to the UK.
It is possible to find palm trees around the south coast of Britain but also as far North as NW Scotland.
There are an estimated half a million redwoods growing in the UK, which includes giant redwoods, coast redwoods, and dawn redwoods. While the exact number of just “giant redwoods” is not specified, this broader category of redwood trees is thriving in the UK.
There is no equality in growing conditions around the UK: temperatures, frosts, water tables, etc. all vary and sometimes quite radically. But local conditions can be good enough for just about any species of tree and in the case of London there is enough food and warmth for tropical wild ring-necked parakeets to be thriving.
I’ve no idea what this Dr Eleanor Tew is on about apart from finding ways to get government funding and thereby a salary?
I’ve no idea what this Dr Eleanor Tew is on about.
It is a good example of modern moronic ”scientists” thinking about problems while forgetting to pay attention to reality.
As I mentioned above, a little extra heat will only make these trees grow better not worse. The exact opposite of what is claimed. They all do well here in the southern hemisphere with much more heat than the UK can ever offer. The dear Dr. should be stripped of her title, tarred and feathered and paraded down the streets of Aberdeen.
The BBC are in a death spiral. It’s just another scream from a dying organism.
I hope so.
This is evidenced by the number of trees registering for therapy.
Looks like it is time to downsize Forestry England!
As long as her paycheck depends upon her writing nonsense…