Audrey Streb
DCNF Energy Reporter
Some New York Democrats are sounding the alarm over the state’s climate goals, arguing that New York should delay implementing some of its stringent green energy mandates.
Donna DeCarolis and Dennis Elsenbeck — appointed members of New York’s Climate Action Council — wrote to the state’s Public Service Commission requesting a hearing to consider delaying the state’s climate goals, including its 2030 70% green energy mandate and its 2040 zero-emissions grid goal on July 29. New York has some of the most aggressive climate goals in the U.S. and higher-than-average energy costs, with state officials recently admitting that the state may miss its green energy targets on the current timeline due in part to the costs that would hit consumers.
“I was intent on becoming known as a strong environmental governor,” Democratic New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said in early August, according to local news outlet Spectrum News. “I also cannot ignore the fact that the disruptions in our economy that have occurred since the laws went into place, but also since we even supported this, that need to be examined in terms of what is happening to people’s pocketbooks right now. … I also have to moderate and make sure that I’m not doing something that’s going to drive up costs for consumers, and the data shows at this time it would.” (RELATED: Dems Finally Realizing Most Americans Don’t Want Enormous Climate Agenda Imposed On Them)
Energy sector experts have previously told the Daily Caller News Foundation that New York’s reliance on intermittent green energy has undermined the stability of its power grid. Policy analysts also explained to the DCNF that the broader trend of Democrats signaling retreat from hardline climate policy is not substantive given that many aggressive policies remain in place, despite corporate media narratives suggesting otherwise.
New York has developed and is still building several offshore wind farms, and Hochul recently kept the state’s massive Empire Wind project alive after President Donald Trump moved to pause the project in April. Though the Trump administration reportedly made a deal with Hochul allowing the development to continue in exchange for the advancement of two natural gas pipelines, Hochul’s office has denied making any official deal.
Several New York Democrat lawmakers reportedly wrote to Hochul requesting the state delay work on the pipelines on Tuesday, according to the Washington Examiner.
Hochul’s office did not respond to the DCNF’s request for comment.
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Hmmm, maybe when the likes of Michael Mann and Ed Milliband begin
to waffle I’ll start to believe that the nightmare is starting to end.
Red Ed? I think it’s possible; he is a politician and lives and dies by votes. But Michael Mann doesn’t. Maybe that million bucks might temper his public insults, but I can’t imagine him ever publicly admitting he was wrong.
The Mann is so deluded & arrogant, he knows everyone else is wrong & he is the only correct one, so, therefore, it makes no sense to him to apologize for anything.
He might be the Ehrlich replacement. Different persona but he does the same job.
Always wrong, never in doubt.
Yes, the sorting hat for deadenders has only just begun.
> New York should delay implementing some of its stringent green energy mandates.
DELAY?! Hey. Let’s drive off this cliff slower.
You couldn’t have said it clearer…
sadly there’s so much idiocy out there that impeeds even simple words to be understood.
Finally they are coming to their senses, nice to watch the block crack, then fall apart, then blow with the wind. It was all a green house of cards. Trillion$ wasted, but somebody got rich.
“but somebody got rich.”
Well, it wasn’t me !!!
I used their subsidies to force my neighbors to pay for the bulk of my solar installation.
Somebody?!? You mean connected Leftist NGOs, pandering politicians, crony capitalists (kick-backing a percentage to said politicians and NGOs), academia, State and local governments and their cronies & etc.
Only from an ignorant, innumerate incompetent. The whole objective of NetZero is to part money from consumer and taxpayers..
Yeah, everybody with a calculator predicted this outcome. The data has always showed it would; she and her other Leftist politicians just didn’t listen.
Or didn’t care until the voters pushed back.
Double down on interfering with their fantasy, and block the offshore wind project as a whale killer.
But other Democrats in NYS are advising her to delay the two pipelines that are part of the (non) deal to keep the offshore wind project alive. So like the Dems – agree to something, then renege.
I assume bad faith by The Green Blob. If one player makes a deal, some ally will
renege.
This is not news, they were told from the beginning that their plan could not and would not work. I am glad to hear them start talking this way I just wish they weren’t so damn dishonest.
She and her ilk have bilked Trillions of dollars from an unsuspecting (and purposefully ignorant) public flogged by the Leftist press.
Political factions are building weird associations between their own unpopular causes and the general “anti-Trump” cause in a way dangerous to whoever runs next as Democrat for president. Certain states and demorgaphics will vote the same way every time but at the margin these unpopular factions are making pro-Trump look better by non-association.
I remember when dems were against crime and war.
Never been to NYC, or better yet, Chicago?
I was in NYC a while ago and felt a lot safer walking around at night than in my own town of Brisbane Australia.
Doesn’t say much for Brisbane…
I recently read that Alice Springs is now very dangerous. Roving gang are robbing people on the streets. Some citizens are advocating for the right to carry arms.
As a Yank who carries concealed w/out a permit (it’s called here “Constitutional Carry” and yes, it’s legal)-do it if possible, and get serious training on the do’s and don’t’s of it all-the powers that be are jealous of it and will screw with you big time if they can. Still, it’s better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6; but know the law…if you ever get the chance to do this practice of freedom.
this would be a good time to shutter diablo canyon
The steel tariffs will bury offshore wind and AI going elsewhere will worry them quickly on the rest.
When the politically motivated flawed ideology of Net Zero meets the reality of life, then reality will always win.
The major change now happening in the Green Climate Alarmist movement is their loss of endless government funding because the Trump administration has turned it off. The shutting down of the Democrat conduit to government money without limit USAID has delt a death blow to many Left wing activist groups.
We are even seeing the impact here in the UK as the usual rent a mob groups, available at the drop of a text is less evident.
Even government funded or backed ‘green’ initiatives are withering for lack of support. The latest being a bioethanol plant losing £millions is closing down because of lack of grant money to keep it going. The hydrogen projects have all but stopped with zero chance of ever being commercially positive.
Now, even Mad Ed is making moves back into the real world as he is cancelling the mandate for 600,000 heat pumps/year. That lunacy was actually introduced by the previous Tory administration under Rishi Sunak but only after they had doubled the National Debt and blamed it on a novel cold infection doing the rounds in 2020.
Reality is visiting the climate zealots…at last. Even BP has managed to finally get Obama’s foot of their throats and are now back in the oil business and making money.
At the time BP changed to Beyond Petroleum, it involved Al Gore. While Clinton was a foot on the throat, he was not the start of it.
Slight alteration. It was actually Boris Johnson who made up the impossible 600,000 a year heat pump installation pipe dream.
“At this time?!” No, gruppenfurer Hochul, it will rape taxpayers and ratepayers ANY TIME you implement such STUPID policies.
Not to worry, another millionaires tax will pay for residential utility bills in NY, NJ, and MA. They know that parasite policy game quite well.
That is, only a few of them are have brain capacity to figure out where the wind (ahem) blows and “waver with the line of party”? The rest are functionally no different from overweight featherless parrots and could indeed be replaced with «glass of water with a “D” next to it» as Nanny Pelosi put it?
Your aristocracy, ladies and gentlemen.
Democrats are worried about their re-election prospects in 2026
They do not give a damn about you and I
They just lie with corrupt mail-in ballots and corruptible voting machines “to eke out a win”
No country in Europe uses Mail-in and voting machines
HIGH COST/kWh OF W/S SYSTEMS FOISTED ONTO A BRAINWASHED PUBLIC
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/high-cost-kwh-of-w-s-systems-foisted-onto-a-brainwashed-public-1
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What is generally not known, the more weather-dependent W/S systems, the less efficient the traditional generators, as they inefficiently counteract the increasingly larger ups and downs of W/S output. See URL
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/fuel-and-co2-reductions-due-to-wind-energy-less-than-claimed
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W/S systems add great cost to the overall delivery of electricity to users; the more W/S systems, the higher the cost/kWh, as proven by the UK and Germany, with the highest electricity rates in Europe, and near-zero, real-growth GDP.
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At about 30% W/S, the entire system hits an increasingly thicker concrete wall, operationally and cost wise.
The UK and Germany are hitting the wall, more and more hours each day.
The cost of electricity delivered to users increased with each additional W/S/B system
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Nuclear, gas, coal and reservoir hydro plants are the only rational way forward.
Ignore CO2, because greater CO2 ppm in atmosphere is essential for: 1) increased green flora to increase fauna all over the world, and 2) increased crop yields to better feed 8 billion people.
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Net-zero by 2050 to-reduce CO2 is a super-expensive suicide pact, to increase command/control by governments, and enable the moneyed elites to get richer, at the expense of all others, by using the foghorn of the government-subsidized/controlled Corporate Media to spread scare-mongering slogans and brainwash people.
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Subsidies shift costs from project Owners to ratepayers, taxpayers, government debt:
1) Federal and state tax credits, up to 50% (Community tax credit of 10 percent – Federal tax credit of 30 percent – State tax credit and other incentives of up to 10%);
2) 5-y Accelerated Depreciation write off of the entire project;
3) Loan interest deduction
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Utilities pay 15 c/kWh, wholesale, after 50% subsidies, for electricity from fixed offshore wind systems
Utilities pay 18 c/kWh, wholesale, after 50% subsidies, for electricity from floating offshore wind
Utilities pay 12 c/kWh, wholesale, after 50% subsidies, for electricity from larger solar systems
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Excluded costs, at a future 30% W/S annual penetration on the grid, based on UK and German experience:
– Onshore grid expansion/reinforcement to connect distributed W/S systems, about 2 c/kWh
– A fleet of traditional power plants to quickly counteract W/S variable output, on a less than minute-by-minute basis, 24/7/365, which leads to more Btu/kWh, more CO2/kWh, more cost of about 2 c/kWh
– A fleet of traditional power plants to provide electricity during 1) low-wind periods, 2) high-wind periods, when rotors are locked in place, and 3) low solar periods during mornings, evenings, at night, snow/ice on panels, which leads to more Btu/kWh, more CO2/kWh, more cost of about 2 c/kWh
– Pay W/S system Owners for electricity they could have produced, if not curtailed, about 1 c/kWh
– Importing electricity at high prices, when W/S output is low, 1 c/kWh
– Exporting electricity at low prices, when W/S output is high, 1 c/kWh
– Disassembly on land and at sea, reprocessing and storing at hazardous waste sites, about 2 c/kWh
Total ADDER 2 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 2 = 11 c/kWh
Some of these values exponentially increase as more W/S systems are added to the grid
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The economic/financial insanity and environmental damage of it all is off the charts.
No wonder Europe’s near-zero, real-growth GDP is in de-growth mode.
That economy has been tied into knots by inane people.
YOUR tax dollars are building these projects so YOU will have much higher electric bills.
Remove YOUR tax dollars using your vote, and none of these projects would be built, and YOUR electric bills would be lower.
Uhh… perhaps a little more consistency?
I spent more than 40 years designing and analyzing energy systems, as a professional.
People are so brainwashed to love wind and solar, they do not know by how much they screw themselves by voting for the woke folks who push them onto every one.
That ignorance is exploited by the woke folks
I wrote my comment to present an A to Z picture to show the extent of the screwing.
Very few know how to create such an overview, even less have the freedom to show it to others.
Western countries cajoling Third World countries in the Wind/Solar direction, and loaning them money to do so, will forever re-establish a colonial-style bondage on those recently free countries.
NEW GAS PIPELINE DIRELY NEEDED IN NEW ENGLAND TO PROVIDE STEADY POWER FOR AI AND OTHER MODERN NEEDS
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/new-gas-pipeline-direly-needed-in-new-england-to-provide-steady
By Willem Post
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Sloganeering Replacing Rational Thinking
Most New England states have gone absolutely apeshit about environmental and other issues.
Rational thinking by independent STEM professionals is replaced with inane slogans by brainwashed nincompoops with signs at gatherings, as duly reported, ad nauseam, by the government-subsidized Corporate Media.
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Environmental Lawfare
No state can make laws that reach beyond its borders to affect other states, countries, people, companies.
Every state attorney knows this. Every law student knows this.
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Section 401 of the Clean Water Act (CWA) has a provision that allows states to block federally approved projects, if they do not meet local environmental standards.
That provision likely would be declared unconstitutional by a Republican-leaning Supreme Court.
Trump has declared a National Energy Emergency
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New Natural Gas Pipeline
New England has needed a new gas pipeline from Pennsylvania to New England, already for about 20 years.
States trying to stop it may be in violation of interstate commerce laws
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The gas pipeline is direly needed to save the near-zero/real-growth New England economy from brown-outs/black-outs in winter.
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It is highly likely, New England will have much higher electricity prices, c/kWh, due to:
1) increased, weather-dependent, grid-disturbing, environmentally destructive, highly subsidized, wind and solar systems on the grid, and
2) increased super-expensive, highly subsidized, short-life, battery systems to counteract the ups and downs of wind/solar outputs, on a less than minute-by-minute basis, 24/7/365
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By now, it should be abundantly obvious, no additional offshore windmills will be built for at least the next 10 years, if Vance becomes President after Trump.
Weather Conditions
In the US, the South is the worst area for onshore wind, New England is next worst.
In the US, the cloudy/rainy/foggy Washington State area is the worst area for solar
This has been known for at least 4 decades by states and the federal government.
SMALL MODULAR REACTORS
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/small-modular-reactors
By Willem Post
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SMRs sounds good, but the electricity cost/kWh would be at least 2 times gas fired CCGT plants.
Such plants are up to 60% efficient, have very low CO2/kWh.
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It would take at least 5 to 8 years to build SMRs at a rate of say 50 units per year, because the US no longer has the thousands of educated and trained nuclear engineering professionals capable of designing any nuclear plants.
The US lost that capability after Three Mile Island in March, 1979, more than 45 years ago.
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Also, the US has not enough working-age people who 1) know how to do more complicated stuff, 2) care enough to do it, 3) have the work ethic and mental discipline, or 4) are otherwise inspired to make themselves useful.
Factories have 400,000 unfilled jobs, but there are few skilled, ambitious people to take them.
People have weird expectations; they want to make big bucks doing nothing.
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The US has a total lack of Science/Technology/Engineering/Mathematics (STEM) professionals who are in high places to call the shots.
The US has been filling the shortfall with Chinese, Indian, etc., STEM folks.
The vacuum at the top was filled by lawyer/liberal arts/enviro functionaries who know next to nothing, except obstruction; Hochul, Newsom, etc., are demagogue-style examples.
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At present, no country is set up to produce, say 50 SMRs per year, at 200 MW each.
China, Russia, South Korea, and the US, with large command/control economies, would be the only countries able set up the required A-to-Z infrastructures.
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A 500 MW (2 units at 250 MW each) CCGT power plant can be built in two years, at a turnkey cost of $2000/kW.
New York State has finally agreed to allow the building of the gas pipeline from Pennsylvania to New England.
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If four countries were building 50 SMRs/y each, it would require:
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Increased uranium mining,
Processing the uranium into fuel bundles,
Constructing factories to produce components and subassemblies,
Constructing factories for assembling the final units near harbors.
Shipping the assembled unis to the site, likely by ship or barge,
Selection and preparation of the site near harbors,
Adding the remaining balance of plant systems,
Plant test operation of each subsystem,
Connecting the plant to the grid, with switchyard,
Test operation of the entire plant,
Commissioning the plant to produce electricity at design output
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AI systems require lots of steady electricity
Each major AI system should be required to have its own power plant
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Any SMRs shipped to Africa and other such areas, would be turnkey-built in Europe, the US, Russia, Korea, China, and then shipped by special barges to Africa, etc. The SMRs would stay on the barges and send power to shore. No fuss, no muss
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By definition, highly subsidized, very expensive, environment-uglifying, bird/bat/sea fauna/tourism/fishery/viewshed-destroying, weather-dependent, variable/intermittent, grid-disturbing, expensive-electricity-producing wind/solar/battery systems do not qualify.
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/high-cost-kwh-of-w-s-systems-foisted-onto-a-brainwashed-public-1
Sorry New York … NO BACKSIES
Have they noticed all the natural gas and LNG going out to all parts of the sane world from PA shale?