The Conversation’s Greenland Ice Melt Hype: History and Data Say Otherwise

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A June 3, 2025 article in The Conversation, titled “Greenland’s melting ice caps reveal the true extent of climate change,” claims that retreating glaciers and melting ice are transforming Greenland’s coastline, providing proof of the severity of man-made climate change. The article states, “[t]his rapid reduction not only has consequences for Greenland’s 56,000 inhabitants, but also on a global scale, as it affects rising sea levels and the balance of the planet’s climate systems.” This claim is highly misleading. A closer look at the actual data reveals that while Greenland’s ice does melt seasonally, the net loss is vastly overstated in terms of both context and consequence. The evidence shows that the total ice volume in Greenland is so immense that these melt events barely register on the global scale.

Greenland’s ice sheet holds about 2.9 million cubic kilometers of ice. Each year, it experiences a melt season during the summer, followed by an accumulation season during the long, dark winter. This is not new. It has been happening for centuries. According to Climate at a Glance, even the much-hyped 2019 melt season, one of the highest in recent memory, amounted to just 0.1% of Greenland’s total ice mass as seen in the figure below. That amount is hardly “revealing the true extent of climate change.”

A comparison of presentations of satellite data capturing Greenland’s ice mass loss. The image on the right shows changes in Greenland’s ice mass relative to its total ice mass. Sources: The data plotted in these graphs are from the Ice Sheet Mass Balance Inter-Comparison Exercise, a joint exercise by NASA and the European Space Agency. Graphs originally by Willis Eschenbach. Adapted and annotated by Anthony Watts.

The Conversation article leans heavily on the premise that ice loss has “outpaced previous estimates by 20%”—but this is little more than statistical smoke. When the baseline estimates are revised upward due to better satellite technology or changes in modeling assumptions, we must ask: is the ice truly disappearing faster, or are we simply observing it with a more exaggerated lens?

Next, we’re told that retreating glaciers are redrawing the coastline and that a 2,500 km increase in Arctic coastline over 20 years is somehow an emergency. Historically glacier retreat and expansion are a natural part of the glacial lifecycle. Glaciers advance and retreat depending on precipitation and temperature—more snowfall means advance, less snowfall or greater melt means retreat. In Greenland, the snow accumulation zone remains robust. According to a peer-reviewed study in Nature Geoscience, snowfall over interior Greenland has actually increased in recent decades. This underscores a fundamental point: it’s precipitation, not temperature alone, that controls the size of glaciers. Snowfall feeds glaciers, and unless you’re tracking that, your melt panic doesn’t paint the complete picture.

The article also dances around the issue of sea level rise but stops short of quantifying it—likely because the numbers would undermine the alarmism. If Greenland lost ice at the 2019 rate every year (which it doesn’t), sea level would rise just 1.5 inches per decade. This amount is not outside the range of historic natural variability and would certainly not prove catastrophic. Sea level has been rising since the end of the last ice age and there’s no evidence to suggest we’re seeing anything outside of that long-term trend. In fact, research shows that Greenland has been warmer in the past and recent research shows that Greenland has been ice free in the past, even when atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations were much lower than at present.

The authors also mention melting permafrost and coastal erosion as evidence of climate danger. Again, this cherry-picks the worst-case scenarios without noting that permafrost thawing is hyper-local and varies widely with terrain, vegetation cover, and hydrology. Even if permafrost thaws in some coastal locations, it has little to do with the Greenland ice sheet and more to do with local conditions—and yes, cyclical climate patterns that predate SUVs.

The authors also cherry-pick glacier data focusing on retreating glaciers, while ignoring that fact that many of Greenland’s glaciers are stable or even advancing. According to NASA’s GRACE satellite data and other datasets summarized at Climate Realism, short-term variations in glacier movement are influenced by bedrock geometry, oceanic oscillations, and weather—not just temperature. Claims that glacier retreat is somehow “proof” of anthropogenic climate change are unsupported by a full review of the data.

Let’s also address the fallacy of linear extrapolation present throughout the article. The authors assume that a trend observed over 20 years can be extended indefinitely into the future. This violates basic principles of climate variability. Greenland has experienced warmer periods in the past, such as the Medieval Warm Period, when Norse settlers farmed in what is now frozen tundra. The idea that today’s trends are unprecedented is simply false. Ice loss and glacier retreat have happened before—and they have reversed before.

Finally, we come to climate modeling. The authors put faith in climate models to “project future scenarios,” but research shows that climate models have consistently overestimated warming and underestimated natural variability. As documented at Watts Up With That, these models are not validated forecasting tools but speculative simulations filled with assumptions. The supposed “integration” of remote sensing with models doesn’t correct for bias—it compounds it.

In conclusion, the narrative spun by The Conversation is a classic case of selective science wrapped in climate alarmism. Greenland’s ice sheet is vast, resilient, and far from being in crisis. Summer melt is a normal seasonal event. Glaciers retreat and advance due to a complex mix of factors, primarily snowfall—not just warming. And the supposed sea level implications are trivial when compared to the dire tone of the article.

Shame on The Conversation for parroting climate panic without rigorous scrutiny. If the story’s writers had bothered to examine the full scope of glaciological science—or even take a glance at precipitation trends and long-term natural variability—they’d see that the ice caps aren’t a smoking gun for a human-caused climate catastrophe. Greenland’s glaciers are just doing what they’ve done throughout history, waxing and waning along with changing climatic, oceanic, and regional conditions, not threatening to inundate the world.

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Anthony Watts is a senior fellow for environment and climate at The Heartland Institute. Watts has been in the weather business both in front of, and behind the camera as an on-air television meteorologist since 1978, and currently does daily radio forecasts. He has created weather graphics presentation systems for television, specialized weather instrumentation, as well as co-authored peer-reviewed papers on climate issues. He operates the most viewed website in the world on climate, the award-winning website wattsupwiththat.com.

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strativarius
June 10, 2025 6:20 am

The Conversation is – dare I say it – even more laughable than the 6th form college effort known as The Guardian.

It’s full of the most [far-left] abject nonsense. Amusingly, its tag line is: “Academic rigour, journalistic flair” – with the emphasis on ‘flair’

Last week it published this wet dream:

Of the many issues Reform UK raises, the most intriguing is also the least answerable: individual agency. It will never be known whether Britain would still be in the EU had Farage not survived his 2010 plane crash, but it’s more probable than not.”
https://theconversation.com/reforms-threat-to-the-mainstream-parties-is-unique-in-uk-political-history-257839

Should be called the Con…version.

Max More
Reply to  strativarius
June 10, 2025 4:33 pm

Or just: “The Con.”

MarkW
June 10, 2025 6:49 am

That the world has been warming since the coldest days of the Little Ice Age, about 250 years ago is a well known fact.
That this warming is being caused by CO2 is nothing more than a supposition, unsupported by facts or logic.

Curious George
Reply to  MarkW
June 10, 2025 7:42 am

Let’s bury New York under 2,000 feet of ice …

Reply to  Curious George
June 10, 2025 8:54 am

Been there done that.

Reply to  mkelly
June 10, 2025 1:20 pm

And will be there again. And there’s not a damn thing humans can do about except follow the advice of George Carlin’s Hippy Dippy Weather Man, Al Sleet – “And remember, if you don’t like the weather, MOVE!”

Scissor
Reply to  MarkW
June 10, 2025 7:48 am

Hair on your knuckles is proof of a degenerate lifestyle.

Reply to  MarkW
June 10, 2025 1:00 pm

THE EVOLUTION OF CLIMATE
BY
C. E. P. BROOKS,
M. Sc., F.R.A.I., F.R. Met. Soc.
WITH A PREFACE BY
G. C. SIMPSON, D. Sc., F.R.S.,
DIRECTOR OF THE METEOROLOGICAL OFFICE
LONDON: BENN BROTHERS, LIMITED
8 BOUVERIE STREET, E.C.4

1922

“The theory which connects fluctuations of climate on a geological scale with changes in the composition of the earth’s atmosphere is due to Tyndall and Arrhenius, and was elaborated by Chamberlin. The theory supposed that the earth’s temperature is maintained by the “blanketing” effect of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. This acts like the glass of a greenhouse, allowing the sun’s rays to enter unhindered, but absorbing the heat radiated from the earth’s surface and returning some of it to the earth instead of letting it pass through to be lost in space. Consequently, any diminution in the amount of carbon dioxide present would cause the earth to radiate away its heat more freely, so reducing its temperature. But it is now known that the terrestrial radiation which this gas is capable of absorbing is taken up equally readily by water-vapour, of which there is always sufficient present, and variations of carbon dioxide cannot have any appreciable effect.“

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/72714/pg72714-images.html

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
June 10, 2025 4:21 pm

The guy’s got 4 names, he must be right!

June 10, 2025 6:57 am

I would hope that all the excellent essays posted on this site (and by that I mean most of them) are seen by whichever media, agency or individual’s idiocy resulted in that essay.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 10, 2025 1:07 pm

It won’t be. It’s not their job to give out facts, only propaganda.

Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 7:19 am
Gregory Woods
Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 7:24 am
Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 9:33 am

From the report:

“John Morales, a meteorologist at NBC 6 South Florida … he would no longer be able to accurately predict hurricanes.”

TV weathermen/women do not make hurricane predictions. They report predictions given them.

KevinM
Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 9:53 am

If all the science comes from a central agency, why would a Florida Weatherman need college education?

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 7:26 am
Scissor
Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 7:52 am

The joke is on them.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 9:37 am

Gotta love the myriad of assumptions and pre-ordained conclusions embedded in that report.

Good only for a chuckle.

KevinM
Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 10:00 am

Definitely an odd article – follows the pattern of assuming everything on earth was fabulous until about 3 months ago, when it suddenly went to poop.

Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 1:28 pm

Correction: Trump’s aversion to green tech financing puts America FIRST, by avoiding the squandering of money and resources on worse-than-useless crap nobody would ever pay a nickel for in a market without government interference.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 9:32 am

From the report:

“the United States restricts legal immigration pathways “

Illegal aliens are not entering via legal immigration pathways.

Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 1:22 pm

Winning!

Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 10, 2025 9:49 pm

If they are going out, great.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
June 10, 2025 7:28 am

I keep repeating this: When you own the media you control the news narrative. Fortunately the MSM has been doing a slow suicide and their credibility is approaching zero.

Scissor
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
June 10, 2025 8:00 am

Reuters reports that deportation is safe and effective. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/israel-set-deport-greta-thunberg-other-activists-ministry-says-2025-06-10/

The Bee reports that Trump responds to the mostly peaceful protests with a mostly peaceful military.
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-responds-to-mostly-peaceful-protests-with-mostly-peaceful-military

Robert Wager
Reply to  Scissor
June 10, 2025 9:34 am

A kinder gentler machine gun hand…

Reply to  Robert Wager
June 10, 2025 10:19 am

Nerf makes a variety of machine guns.

Reply to  Gunga Din
June 11, 2025 11:44 am
Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Robert Wager
June 10, 2025 1:36 pm

Kinder and gentler just means you get taken advantage of.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Scissor
June 10, 2025 9:44 am

The humor…. Gretta, our darling climate activist, was flown home in a jet.

As to the mostly peaceful report, and this was published in quotations:

“What we have are mostly peaceful migrants making their voices mostly peacefully heard by throwing Molotov cocktails and looting businesses,” Newsom said. “All of which is protected by the Bill of Rights. Read the Constitution.”

Did Nuisance really say that burning and looting are protected under the Constitution?

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 10, 2025 10:02 am

I could almost believe he would say that, but in this case it was the Bee.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 10, 2025 1:41 pm

There was a reporter who said it was just a lot of people having fun watching cars burn.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
June 10, 2025 1:56 pm

people having fun watching cars burn.

I read that someone had said that, but I thought it was exaggerated. I just heard it for myself a few minutes ago. Unbelievable.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Tony_G
June 10, 2025 4:19 pm

Yeah, I think I heard it on the Matt Walsh podcast.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
June 10, 2025 8:14 am

Net Zero?

Curious George
June 10, 2025 7:40 am

Naturally, as an Australian publication, The Conversation is not interested in the Antarctica – it is too near. Greenland is far enough 🙂

John Hultquist
June 10, 2025 7:48 am

The credentials of the authors is impressive. However, they appear to be totally accepting of human (CO2) caused warming. This shows up in the wording of the text and makes for a disfavorable reading of the entirety of it. That is, what they have seen and measured would be appreciated more if the information was presented without the bias. 

Michael Flynn
Reply to  John Hultquist
June 10, 2025 5:27 pm

John, you wrote “. . . human (CO2) caused warming.”

Might I respectfully suggest that conflating the two is incorrect.

Human, yes. CO2, no.

Human activities create additional environmental heat, reflected mainly in nighttime minima.

CO2 warms nothing.

sloopjb
June 10, 2025 8:28 am

One only has to consider the story of “Glacier Girl” to recognize the great variability in ice melt and accumulation over Greenland. “Glacier Girl” was a P-38 fighter emergency landed on Greenland ice in 1942, abandoned, buried under snow, and then recovered 50 years later in 1992 from under 268 feet of ice. 268 feet of ice accumulation over a period of 50 years — not likely just a local event!

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  sloopjb
June 10, 2025 2:10 pm

So, do you know a Sheriff John Stone?

Reply to  sloopjb
June 10, 2025 6:40 pm

It had also drifted about a mile and a half from its original position

Dave Andrews
June 10, 2025 8:34 am

I wonder if they considered the role of hot springs in ice melt? They are a common natural phenomenon in the country although those on the island of Unartoq are the only ones warm enough to bathe in 🙂

https://visitgreenland.com/about-greenland/hot-springs-greenland/

Steve Rigge
Reply to  Dave Andrews
June 10, 2025 8:43 am

To set a simple benchmark: wheat requires 110 frost free days to produce. The Vikings grew wheat in Greenland. Not so much these days.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Steve Rigge
June 10, 2025 9:45 am

Barley, too, if memory serves.

strativarius
June 10, 2025 9:21 am

Story tip. pH is passe

…ocean acidification enters this danger zone or crosses this planetary boundary when the amount of calcium carbonate—which allows marine organisms to develop shells—is less than 20 percent compared to pre-industrial levels. The new report puts the figure at about 17 percent.

Ocean acidification crosses “planetary boundaries”
https://apple.news/A2tF6Z92AQx2eL0aVzpRKeg

June 10, 2025 9:27 am

Southern Greenland is at the latitude of Stockholm. Melting ice is hardly a surprise in the warm months.The summer temperatures reaches 0C, and the sun is up long hours, so of course, there is surface melting. The temperature plot, measured every three hours at the summit of the ice sheet, shows NO change from 1987 to 2011, and none in the past decade. The latest data is harder to find since it does not show significant warming.
The narrative, you know.

greenland-summit-temps-1987-to-2010
KevinM
Reply to  whsmith@wustl.edu
June 10, 2025 10:12 am

I can’t imagine what would be standard science nowadays if not for Internet.
(Re “The latest data is harder to find…”)

Reply to  whsmith@wustl.edu
June 10, 2025 6:34 pm

The Summit is at an altitude of over 10,000 feet, you wouldn’t expect a strong CO2 GHE at that altitude.

Sparta Nova 4
June 10, 2025 9:27 am

But, but, but:

“Greenland does not just reflect climate change: it predicts it.”

From the article reference.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 10, 2025 1:36 pm

They keep trying to push the notion that “climate change” is “worse than (they) thought.”

Yet NONE of the scary predictions that have reached their expiration dates about what “climate change” was supposed to cause have come to pass.

Which shows their claims to be vacuous bullshit, nothing more than propaganda.

June 10, 2025 1:16 pm

The Conversation Monologue is just another propaganda fountain.

June 10, 2025 1:45 pm

Shame on The Conversation“:

Sorry AW.. the Conversation never feels shame or embarrassment, no matter how stupid their con.

Bob
June 10, 2025 3:34 pm

Very nice Anthony.

Michael Flynn
June 10, 2025 5:19 pm

The authors put faith in climate models to “project future scenarios,”

Faith is for religion, not science. The future is unknowable.

June 10, 2025 9:44 pm

“The evidence shows that the total ice volume in Greenland is so immense that these melt events barely register on the global scale.”

So, the Greenland ice melt does provide “… proof of the severity of man-made climate change.” It barely registers on the global scale.

Keitho
Editor
June 11, 2025 12:32 am

I do enjoy Anthony’s essays. The alarmists are running out of road aren’t they, rather like the Democrats rioting gangs thanks to the bright exposure outside of the control of the establishment. Thanks to WUWT for a great platform for skeptical argument that ranks up there with X and Grok for free speech.

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