Geologic Hydrogen: A Game-Changer or Another Energy Mirage?

What if the Earth has been hoarding a massive energy stockpile right under our noses? That’s the provocative idea in a new study from Science Advances (December 13, 2024), Model predictions of global geologic hydrogen resources, by Geoffrey Ellis and Sarah E. Gelman. They propose that natural hydrogen—formed by geological processes deep underground—could dwarf today’s proven natural gas reserves in scale. Before we start imagining a new energy golden age, let’s unpack what this study claims, what it doesn’t, and why it might matter to anyone who cares about energy that actually works.

The researchers used a mass balance model to estimate how much hydrogen might be locked in the Earth’s subsurface. Their figures are jaw-dropping: a range from 1,000 to 10 billion million metric tons (Mt), with a “most probable” value of 5.6 million Mt. If just 2% of that—about 100,000 Mt—were extractable, it could meet a projected global hydrogen demand of 500 Mt per year (by 2050) for two centuries. Energy-wise, they calculate it at 14 quadrillion megajoules, nearly double the 8.4 quadrillion MJ in all known natural gas reserves.

That’s a number to make you sit up. But here’s the catch: most of it might be too deep, too scattered, or too tough to grab with today’s tools. Still, the authors argue that even a small chunk could shake things up—if we can find it and make it practical.

This may not be pie-in-the-sky stuff. Geologic hydrogen forms through natural processes like serpentinization (water reacting with iron-rich rocks) or cryptic reactions deep in the crust. Take Mali, where a field pumps out nearly pure hydrogen, or look at hydrogen seeping from Albanian mines and bubbling up in Russia and Brazil. These aren’t one-offs; they’re clues to a resource we’ve maybe just missed.

The model pegs annual hydrogen generation at 15 to 31 Mt, though the authors speculate it could soar to 25,000 Mt if deep mantle sources check out. Most of it either escapes or gets munched by underground microbes, but some might linger in reservoirs, ripe for the taking—if we can crack the puzzle.

Don’t get too cozy with those big numbers—the uncertainty is glaring. That 1,000 to 10 billion Mt range spans seven orders of magnitude, and the “most probable” 5.6 million Mt is a guess, not a drilled-and-proven reserve. Finding it? Good luck. Unlike shale gas, where the target was known and the trick was extraction, hydrogen’s hiding spots are a mystery.

Then there’s the practical side. Hydrogen’s tiny molecules leak like crazy, and while the study likens it to helium or CO₂ (which can stay trapped for ages), microbes or shaky seals could drain it before we arrive. Residence time in reservoirs is the make-or-break factor—if it doesn’t hang around, those grand totals crumble.

The study slots geologic hydrogen alongside “green” hydrogen (from electrolysis, tethered to sprawling wind or solar farms), “blue” hydrogen (from fossil fuels with shaky carbon capture), and overlooks the heavyweight: nuclear. Fission’s track record shows it can pump out steady, massive energy without the hiccups of renewables or the convoluted plumbing of carbon sequestration. Hydrogen might join the lineup, but it’s not dethroning nuclear anytime soon.

The authors suggest it could lighten the load on blue hydrogen’s carbon capture pipe dreams or green hydrogen’s land-grabbing renewable sprawl. Fair point—but energy isn’t about chasing climate unicorns; it’s about keeping the grid humming. At a “renewable” refill rate of 5 Mt per year, geologic hydrogen barely dents the 500 Mt demand by 2050. Nuclear, meanwhile, could scale up now without breaking a sweat.

So why give this a second glance? If it pans out, geologic hydrogen could be a wild card that boosts energy abundance without the baggage of wind farms, solar deserts, or endless green gimmicks. It’s not about some low-carbon crusade—it’s about raw potential. A resource that might double natural gas’s energy punch deserves attention, especially if it dodges the politics of renewables and the headaches of carbon capture.

For now, it’s a tantalizing “maybe.” The authors call for more research, and they’re right—too much is up in the air to bank on it. Think early shale gas: a long shot that hit big, but only after years of grind and breakthroughs. Hydrogen’s got no such playbook yet. It could be the next energy frontier—or just another overhyped distraction to keep the grant wheels turning.

Could this be a shale-style revolution, or is it another shiny object for the dreamers? The answer’s in the rocks—and a few well-aimed drills.

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February 27, 2025 10:28 am

Isn’t “model predicts” exactly how we got into this mess in the first place?

Well, playing along for now, we just need to solve the storage problem to get the hydrogen from the drill site to where it’s needed without leakage, explosions, or laying hundreds of thousands of miles of new pipes.

We’ll have it done by tea-time, I’m sure.

Curious George
Reply to  PariahDog
February 27, 2025 10:40 am

Toy models.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  PariahDog
February 27, 2025 11:38 am

Models are tools. They help understand how things work. Well, not fashion models.
Models are not prophets, which is your point.

tedbear
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 27, 2025 12:06 pm

Indeed they do.
As a youngster I had a model boat powered by a model outboard motor. It worked great.
But when the scientists came up with the idea that the co2 from car exhausts was warming the planet, they didn’t make a single model to test the theory.

1saveenergy
Reply to  tedbear
February 27, 2025 10:39 pm

“they didn’t make a single model to test the theory.”

Because they ran out of plasticine & couldn’t afford Lego (:-))

ferdberple
February 27, 2025 10:35 am

If true, there should already be large hydrogen discoveries trapped much like helium under rock formations, unable to reach the surface.

Reply to  ferdberple
February 27, 2025 11:24 am

Lots of oil rig drilling bits have penetrated into reservoirs containing helium, or natural gas (methane) with a significant helium component.

Have never heard of a single hydrogen discovery in any country or any geologic province.

Erik Magnuson
Reply to  pillageidiot
February 27, 2025 12:11 pm

I recall hearing about a hydrogen discovery in Kansas or Nebraska a number of years ago, which suggests hydrogen reservoirs do exist. This doesn’t mean they are common, easy to find or easy to exploit.

Reply to  Erik Magnuson
February 27, 2025 12:37 pm

Well, I stand corrected.

There is a story from Kansas about prospectors targeting hydrogen in the Pre-Cambrian Midcontinent Rift System

The article also refers to a shallow well in Mali that apparently produces nearly pure hydrogen.

https://www.ruralmessenger.com/kansas-news/hydrogen-wildcatters-are-betting-big-on-kansas-to-strike-it-rich/

ResourceGuy
Reply to  pillageidiot
February 27, 2025 2:49 pm

Mining stock scams have a had a modern-day update with “clean” hydrogen. It just requires little or no due diligence to keep it going.

Rud Istvan
February 27, 2025 10:37 am

I went and read the abstract. Uncertainty in the ‘models’ ranges 7 orders of magnitude! Useless. So what was the purpose of this new paper?
”Study results demonstrate that further research…is merited.”
Send green dollars, please.

ferdberple
February 27, 2025 10:38 am

The earth has huge deposits of hydrogen. Millions of tons of it float upwards into the atmosphere each day, bound to oxygen.

February 27, 2025 10:49 am

Drilling has been going on for some time, with little result – in Nebraska for example. There is a witch doctor in Africa seen blessing a drilling site. Perhaps that helps.
It is routine now to drill to 5 km, but 12 km is still the record, the Kolya Borehole in Russia.
If you could get H2 anywhere and everywhere and use it ‘in situ’, that might be useful.
But, so far the transport and storage of H2 has defied solution – now for 50 years. The issues may be solved next year, of course.
H2 is not a direct greenhouse gas, but reactions of fugitive H2 create greenhouse gases, with a GWP ~50 times that of CO2 (according to chemical models). Net Zero 2050 suggests 500 MT of H2 will be produced annually by 2040 (they better get going!). At least 10% of that becomes fugitive H2 via transport and use, That is equivalent to 2.5 BT of CO2 released. CO2, at least, pays for itself by enabling and enhancing plant growth. H2 has no such value.
In fact to replace hydrocarbons, easily 10x MORE H2 (than the 500 MT) is required, in turn, easily displacing CO2 as the major greenhouse gas (after H2O, of course).
The reality is that we need to MAKE hydrocarbons as fuel, as we run out, in spite of the thermodynamic costs. Hydrocarbons are by far, the best carrier of chemical energy.

Reply to  whsmith@wustl.edu
February 27, 2025 11:20 am

Did you mean for the entire comment to be in “Bold”?

John Hultquist
Reply to  Gunga Din
February 27, 2025 11:47 am

The bold is strong with this one. Either new to the internet or spilled yogurt on the keyboard. The ‘ edu ‘ might be relevant.

Mr.
Reply to  Gunga Din
February 27, 2025 2:22 pm

The commenter might have deteriorated vision, so needs to more clearly see what the characters are as they are typed.

I have to use ‘accessibility’ tools myself, and convert my all caps bold drafts to normal sentence case before I post.

Believe me, it’s a pain in the arse.

Reply to  Mr.
February 27, 2025 9:33 pm

Nonsense, I have deteriorated vision.
I type my comments in Word in a large font and then copy and paste.

I skip by this guy’s comments each and every time.

1saveenergy
Reply to  Mr.
February 27, 2025 10:47 pm

“Believe me, it’s a pain in the arse.”

Check for hemorrhoids !!

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  whsmith@wustl.edu
February 27, 2025 11:39 am

The issues may be solved in the next 20 years, of course.
Something like nuclear fusion should apply.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  whsmith@wustl.edu
February 27, 2025 11:42 am

MIT has developed a process, similar to photosynthesis, where CO2 and H20 in air are converted to methane using solar energy.

I do not know if a demo project has been performed.
I do not know if the technology is scalable to the size needed.

To my way of thinking, methane is the hydrocarbon fuel of choice and there are emerging technologies that, if they prove out, can make a “carbon neutral” gas turbine generator economically feasible.

MarkW
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 27, 2025 1:16 pm

It all depends on how expensive the catalysts are, how long they last and how efficient the over all process is. There was a proposed project that sounds familiar to this several years ago. It didn’t pan out.

Reply to  MarkW
February 27, 2025 9:02 pm

Recently, there have been numerous catalyst ‘breakthroughs’ announced on SciTechDaily. The problem is that these are all functional laboratory demonstrations that don’t answer your questions, and most importantly, haven’t demonstrated that they are capable of being scaled up to industrial levels.

Scissor
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 27, 2025 2:44 pm

Diesel has the advantage of being able to be transported via tankers, in addition to pipeline. A lot of natural gas is simply flared because it is “stranded.”

KevinM
Reply to  whsmith@wustl.edu
February 27, 2025 1:09 pm

reactions of fugitive H2 create greenhouse gases
Water?

Reply to  KevinM
February 27, 2025 2:06 pm

2H2 + O2 —> 2OH2

Discharges of lightning would initiate combustion. There are ca. 4 million lightning discharges everyday (cf., Wikipedia).

The concentration of CH4 is ca.1.9 ppmv. The reason for the low concentration is due to the initiation of its combustion by discharges of lightning.

Scissor
Reply to  Harold Pierce
February 27, 2025 2:46 pm

Hydroxyl radicals in the atmosphere also consume hydrogen.

Reply to  Harold Pierce
February 27, 2025 9:04 pm

And relatively short life span over all as well as a low flux for all sources.

Scissor
Reply to  whsmith@wustl.edu
February 27, 2025 2:42 pm

Hydrogen is transported to a number of refineries and chemical plants in the U.S. with about 1600 miles of pipeline in operation.

Mason
Reply to  Scissor
February 28, 2025 4:57 am

The hydrogen from ethylene plants is very pure and is dumped in to the regional hydrogen system. Metered of course.

February 27, 2025 10:49 am

”Model Predictions”. Oh-oh.

hdhoese
February 27, 2025 10:50 am

Just ran across this, gas has lots of definitions. 6. slang: something that gives pleasure.
https://www.louisianafirstnews.com/news/louisiana-news/lawsuit-challenges-louisianas-approval-of-co2-pipeline-in-maurepas-swamp/
“The lawsuit targets Air Products’ Blue Hydrogen Clean Energy Complex…” Such pipelines are of course not new since used for enhancing well production. Another example of environmental concerns colliding? One might argue that the Louisiana coast already has enough gas bubbling into the atmosphere and too many cracks and faults in the sediments to trust this.

Reply to  hdhoese
February 27, 2025 11:24 am

I was born in a crossfire hurricane
And I howled at my ma in the drivin’ rain

[Chorus]
But it’s all right now
In fact, it’s a gas
But it’s all right
I’m Jumpin’ Jack Flash
It’s a gas, gas, gas

ferdberple
February 27, 2025 10:51 am

From Chatgpt:
The fact that deep methane is observed, along with the relative scarcity of free hydrogen, supports this theory. Methane can form deep in the Earth through both biological (methanogenesis) and geochemical (such as the reaction of carbon and hydrogen) processes. Once formed, methane can be trapped in pockets or released through geological events like volcanic eruptions.

Thus, in these environments, hydrogen likely reacts with available carbon and oxygen, creating methane or water, depending on the specific conditions. The lack of free hydrogen in the deep Earth is consistent with these reactions, where hydrogen is either consumed in forming methane or water, leaving little to exist freely in its elemental form.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  ferdberple
February 27, 2025 10:57 am

Well known that abiogenic methane occurs. The methane clathrates at the bottom of the Framm Strait are all abiogenic.

Curious George
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 27, 2025 12:00 pm

Are we sure that there is no abiogenic octane?

Curious George
Reply to  ferdberple
February 27, 2025 12:02 pm

The lack of free hydrogen in the deep Earth
How does Chatgpt know?

KevinM
Reply to  Curious George
February 27, 2025 1:12 pm

Starts with “The fact that“. Cleary it knows.

Reply to  Curious George
February 27, 2025 10:30 pm

Remember ChatGPT is a word pattern recognition software. It’s going to give you a literature search answer representing the consensus, swapping out a few synonyms to avoid copyright lawsuits.

Someone
Reply to  ferdberple
February 28, 2025 8:29 am

The “lack of free hydrogen in the deep Earth” is just a guess. However, it is possible that most of hydrogen in the Earth interior is tied in metal hydrides, mostly iron hydride.

Reply to  Someone
February 28, 2025 11:06 am

It is my understanding that the potential hydrogen ‘plays’ are the result of serpentinazation of (ultra)mafic rocks, wherein ferrous hydroxide is converted to magnetite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schikorr_reaction

Abbas Syed
February 27, 2025 10:52 am

As far as I’m aware, nobody is taking direct hydrogen seriously, even for automotive applications.

The problem in fuel cell vehicles (even if H2 can be sourced at volume and reasonable cost) is on board storage. Solid state requires a cryogenic system, compressed is dangerous and gas is a non starter.

That’s not even getting into the cost of the membrane, membrane degradation from radicals generated via Fenton reactions on impurities leeched from the bipolar plates, carbon ‘corrosion’ (oxidation), catalyst detachment, sintering and Ostwald ripening, poisoning by CO and ammonia on pt catalysts (requiring expensive ultra pure H2), promises of ruthenium/cobalt/pt alloys and other materials that never materialised (pardon the pun), etc etc

The storage problem and gas diffusion layer flooding was why there was much interest for a while in direct methanol but the power density was too low and methanol crossover was a problem that couldn’t be overcome with high performance membranes like nafion

Direct combustion is only in an admixture with methane, at 10% usually, or I think up to 20 in Germany, or maybe it’s 15

Like many things ‘low carbon’ it sounds like a nice idea until you give it 5 minutes of thought

For some people, it requires 50000 minutes before they come to their senses

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Abbas Syed
February 27, 2025 11:23 am

Only a month (34.7 days)?

Abbas Syed
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 27, 2025 11:52 am

Add a few more zeros 😁

Curious George
Reply to  Abbas Syed
February 27, 2025 12:13 pm

Maybe you should have done so.

KevinM
Reply to  Curious George
February 27, 2025 1:15 pm

For posterity:
50,000 minutes (as Syed said) =
833 hours =
34.7 days (as SM4 said) =
0.095 years

Scissor
Reply to  Abbas Syed
February 27, 2025 2:52 pm

Some stations in California deliver hydrogen at 10,000 psi, which is fine until something cracks. Because hydrogen has a negative Joule-Thompson coefficient, it heats up upon expansion and is self-igniting in air under some conditions.

Reply to  Abbas Syed
February 27, 2025 9:14 pm

What is being overlooked is that the volume of CO2 emissions is large enough that it has come to be viewed by many as a pollutant, despite its value to plants. Moving away from hydrocarbons to hydrogen means that the CO2 will be replaced by H20. That means local increases in humidity in urban commuting corridors, raising the heat index, contributing to rime ice, encouraging corrosion and mold, and a plethora of related problems. That is, we don’t eliminate a pollutant, we substitute another one for it, one that we have little experience with, particularly in the more northern states.

Someone
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 28, 2025 8:25 am

Neither of them are a pollutant. Your “plethora of related problems” is just as bogus as any harm from CO2.

Reply to  Someone
February 28, 2025 10:45 am

OK, I’ll see you and raise you several.

Wiki defines a pollutant as something that becomes “of public health concern when they reach a concentration high enough to have significant negative impacts.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollutant

It is well-known that exhaust from automobiles is still a visible problem in some areas, such as the LA Basin and many large cities in China, notably from the Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC) that result in smog when exposed to sunlight, despite attempts to reduce smog and lower-troposphere ozone for roughly 50-years. Hydrogen will not have the problem of fugitive or combustion by-product VOCs because the result of combustion or fuel cell use is water vapor, period. (Maybe some increased nitrogen oxides because of the high flame-temperature of hydrogen.)

However, what will happen to the water vapor produced? If it is condensed on board, the vehicle will increase in weight, cutting into performance and mileage, and increase owner maintenance to empty the water tanks daily. If the water vapor is released to the air as with exhaust today, the effects will vary with the climate and seasons. One can reasonably expect that if there is still a problem with VOCs after the introduction of catalytic converters, which there is, the water vapor will be non-trivial. Dripping water onto pavement will result in perennially wet pavement, increasing braking distance, and increasing accidents. Increased availability of water vapor will result in an increased Heat Index until the air becomes saturated, at which point it may create fog, condense onto structures and promote corrosion and mold, and possibly being unhealthy for trees along the transportation corridors. None of these things are being discussed by those advocating adoption of a hydrogen economy.

Hydrogen is well-known to embrittle many metals, particularly steel, which means that rings, piston heads, and injectors can be expected to fail prematurely, and storage tanks and supply lines will eventually start to leak. Hydrogen has the widest range of gas:oxygen ratios that are explosive of any known gas. Thus, fires and explosions can be expected to be more frequent; hydrogen flames are almost invisible. However, fortunately, an explosion will let the owner know that there is a problem. What will happen if your hydrogen ICE car that has developed a small leak is sitting in a garage, and you go out at night and flip the switch to the light(s)?

Would you have been happier if I had outright denied that CO2 contributes to warming? I’m not about to do that because I believe that the contribution is negligible, but still present. The question of the quantitative contribution is still open, in my opinion. However, the important issue is that many voters have bought into the claim that CO2 is an existential threat and are clamoring to eliminate it. What I’m trying to point out is that hydrogen has its own set of problems that most people are unaware of and, therefore, haven’t thought about. Obviously, that includes you.

Denis
February 27, 2025 11:34 am

Absent from this article is that hydrogen is very difficult to work with. It contains less than half of the energy of an equal volume of natural gas. It can be liquified for shipment but the temperature has to be within about 20 degrees of absolute zero and kept there, a possible but very expensive process. It takes much more energy to compress hydrogen than natural gas and as pointed out, it leaks through most anything, even metals. Enthusiasts like to point out that hydrogen was the main flammable ingredient in “town gas”, made from coal, used in the late 1800s and beyond but neglect to mention that town gas was delivered by very large pipes operating at very low pressures. As a for-example of the inefficiencies of using hydrogen as a fuel, it would take about a dozen semi-tractor trailer trucks of compressed hydrogen to deliver to a “gas” station the same amount of energy that is delivered today by a single gasoline tanker. And the station or truck would need a hydrogen compressor to transfer the load to the station’s tanks. Before anybody gets hot and bothered by the hydrogen-as-a-fuel idea, a careful engineering analysis of the requirements for managing such a fuel needs to be made.

jvcstone
Reply to  Denis
February 27, 2025 2:30 pm

I remember my Dad telling me about watching a very big bag of Hydrogen burn up while docking in NJ–sometime in the 30’s I think. Was the incident that put an end to a lighter than air transportation scheme that was all the rage back then. Just imagine the well head fire that could be possible with a hydrogen gusher coming in and an accidental spark on the rig,

Scissor
Reply to  Denis
February 27, 2025 2:57 pm

California currently has 42 stations that deliver hydrogen for the 12,000 hydrogen powered automobiles there.

abolition man
Reply to  Scissor
February 27, 2025 3:31 pm

At what cost?

Scissor
Reply to  abolition man
February 27, 2025 4:27 pm

High. Toyota Mirai is about $50K, comes with essentially free fuel for 6 years or $15,000 worth, whichever comes first.

Sparta Nova 4
February 27, 2025 11:37 am

If such wells are feasible and practical, I think it prudent to consider making methane onsite from the H2 by adding CO2 (Sabatier reaction). New technologies are under development that would allow this process to work at 100 C.

Methane is much easier to store and transport and the generating stations using methane already exist. Seems, without any numbers to back it up, that this would be more economical than coming up with the means the store and transports H2 and bypasses most of the risks of handling H2.

Someone
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 28, 2025 8:21 am

Or just burning the extracted H2 to produce electricity on site.

Reply to  Someone
February 28, 2025 11:18 am

It becomes a question of whether hydrogen, methane, or electricity can be moved from the source to consumption areas most cheaply. Electricity has losses from resistance and impedance that results in heat, and requires the installation of power plants, power lines and transformer stations. The installation of infrastructure will require amortization for any of the three, and probably maintenance as well. So, those have to be compared.

Someone
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 28, 2025 11:37 am

Hydrogen is not practical to be moved. Methane – yes. Electricity – depends on distance.

Reply to  Someone
March 1, 2025 12:25 pm

On what do you base that terse, unsupported claim about hydrogen? Scissor has stated that there is about 1,600 miles of hydrogen pipelines in service. I personally question the longevity of the pipelines, but it seems to contradict your claim of it being impractical.

AlbertBrand
February 27, 2025 11:44 am

Wouldn’t any hydrogen coming to the surface just continue on its way to outer space? It is the lightest molecule so any not captured is gone. Stupid is what stupid does.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  AlbertBrand
February 27, 2025 12:21 pm

Probably because lightning would ignite it, along with free methane.
Any that does make it up high enough is blown away by the solar winds.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
March 1, 2025 12:32 pm

I can accept hydrogen being ignited by lightning because of its wide range of flammability. However, I’m skeptical about Pierce’s claim of lightning initiating methane combustion. If it were common, then I would expect it to be common knowlwedge that ‘marsh gases’ were ignited during lightning storms.

Someone
Reply to  AlbertBrand
February 28, 2025 11:45 am

H2 is oxidized with help of free radical atomic O(1D). Whatever survives in troposphere, where O(1D) concentrations are small, is oxidized in stratosphere, where they are larger. Even higher in mesosphere water is broken down into atoms again by even shorter UV and cosmic rays, and atomic hydrogen escapes to space from thermosphere.

February 27, 2025 12:19 pm

Using geologic hydrogen is a terrific idea…. when it’s already attached to a carbon atom. Solves lots and lots of energy problems and is easy to deal with.

Pretty sure the models show this too.

Bob
February 27, 2025 12:27 pm

They can do whatever they want with hydrogen just keep the government out of it.

KevinM
Reply to  Bob
February 27, 2025 1:21 pm

First they came for the Hydrogen, and I did not speak out—
   Because I was not a Hydrogen.

Then they came for the Helium, and I did not speak out—
   Because I was not a Helium.

Then they came for the Lithium, and I did not speak out—
   Because I was not a Lithium.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Scissor
Reply to  Bob
February 27, 2025 2:59 pm

Too late.

KevinM
February 27, 2025 1:04 pm

Is this related to “abiogenic oil”?
It seems like some yokel should have shot the ground and blown up Texas if there was a Hindenburg’s worth under them thar hills..

Rud Istvan
Reply to  KevinM
February 27, 2025 1:24 pm

There is no abiogenic oil. The Russian paper on the supposed Ukranian deposit got the geology wrong, The Swedish experiment found a slight amount of drilling fluid contamination. And from first principles of Petrochemistry, abiotic oil should not exist. Abiotic methane certainly does exist, in small quantities.

Scissor
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 27, 2025 3:10 pm

I think you are right. I used to analyze crude oil many years ago when I worked for a major oil company (rhymes with hell). If an abiotic oil were ever to be found, it would create quite the sensation.

We can artificially create something akin to an oil via pyrolysis, e.g. of biomass and also Fischer-Tropsch synthesis using hydrogen and carbon monoxide (syngas).

Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 28, 2025 6:15 am

Abiotic methane exists in large quantities on moons of the outer planets but not so much on earth. I wonder what process cold moons have that a warm earth doesn’t.

Reply to  mkelly
February 28, 2025 10:47 am

Lack of a gaseous phase.

MarkW
February 27, 2025 1:09 pm

Latest shiny thing to keep they myrmidons from thinking about all the problems with past shiny things.

The Dark Lord
February 27, 2025 1:14 pm

free hydrogen gas would still be useless … its too explosive, too hard to store and way to hard to pipe …

Scissor
Reply to  The Dark Lord
February 27, 2025 3:14 pm

Definitely there are technical challenges that require the used of expensive materials, but there are already about 1600 miles of operating hydrogen pipelines in the U.S. (mostly around the Gulf).

It seems that Air Products is the main supplier of hydrogen around the Gulf.

https://www.airproducts.com/-/media/files/en/338/338-12-003-us-air-products-us-gulf-coast-hydrogen-network.pdf

Reply to  Scissor
February 27, 2025 9:22 pm

Something to consider is that it takes awhile for steel to become embrittled by hydrogen. What is the expected longevity of that 1,600 miles of pipeline?

Crisp
Reply to  Scissor
March 1, 2025 5:31 pm

That article is very information-free.

ResourceGuy
February 27, 2025 2:46 pm

It was another tax credit play and now it is a mirage. Bill Gates can always explore the moon for clean hydrogen under some future WH regime.

abolition man
Reply to  ResourceGuy
February 27, 2025 3:34 pm

Can we send him now!?

February 27, 2025 3:29 pm

I think Gilligan may have found a seep. They were going to use it for balloon lifting gas, but sadly something went wrong and the island escape didn’t pan out.

The Darling fault on the Perth coast is said to have significant seeps. But inconsistent testing data simply showed that more ‘work’ (resource money) is needed to be sure of the potential.

dk_
February 27, 2025 4:05 pm

There’s not much point in geologic hydrogen when real, cheap, more dense, useful fuels are much easier to get at. With cheap energy, we can make all the hydrogen we’ll ever want from resources close at hand. The least expensive way to plentiful hydrogen for the foreseeable future will be fission generated electrical electrolysis or thermal separation, and probably best stored and handled as methane or ammonia.
Discover a cheap and plentiful source of energy and the world will beat a path to your door. Until then, frac on and drill, baby drill.

February 27, 2025 10:22 pm

I’ve looked at hundreds of DST’s in the Western Sedimentary Basin…Drill Stem Tests from drilling rigs going as deep as 10,000 feet that had hit a gas zone. Oil and Gas Company Clients wanted to know roughly what processes would be needed to make the gas meet sales quality and how much hydrocarbon liquids they can extract and sell separately from the gas, (There isn’t really enough quality flowrate data at this point but that’s the way it is) or very occasionally to see if it has enough Helium to economically extract. These analyses generally contained not even 1% Hydrogen, often .1%, some contained a half a percent Helium but usually.1 or .2%, some contained a couple of percent N2, often 5% or so CO2, anything from 0 to 30% H2S ( Mother Nature’s nerve gas), but the most common gas by far was methane, typically over 90%, ethane at about 5%to 10% , maybe 3% to 5% propane, and fractional percentages of butanes, pentanes, etc, up to octane. So anyone thinking there’s enough geological hydrogen down there somewhere to be a vast energy reserve for humanity….I’d say is experiencing a seriously delusional case of wishful thinking.

Reply to  DMacKenzie
February 28, 2025 10:50 am

Part of my definition of a liberal is someone who is detached from reality.

aelfrith
February 28, 2025 2:03 am

So, digging up fossilised carbon and turning it into CO2 is bad for the environment, but digging up fossilised hydrogen and turning it into water vapour – a much more potent greenhouse gas – will be good for us?

Someone
Reply to  aelfrith
February 28, 2025 8:19 am

Neither the so-called fossil fuels, nor H2 owe their existence to fossilized remains of living organisms. There is plenty of carbon and hydrogen in the Earth interior to start with. Geothermal heat and pressure produce all kind of hydrocarbons and free H2, as well as metal hydrides. Carbon and hydrogen that passed through biological cycle can become part of these hydrocarbons, but it is not a prerequisite for these compounds to be formed. Coal, oil, natural gas and H2 would all exist even if there were no life on Earth. Significant amount of biological carbon is tied as CaCO3 in chalk, limestone and marble, not in “fossil fuels”.

Reply to  Someone
March 1, 2025 12:42 pm

“Neither the so-called fossil fuels, nor H2 owe their existence to fossilized remains of living organisms.”

Are you saying that coal is not a fossil fuel? Are you denying that plankton play any role in producing crude oil? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum I think that crude oil could be considered a trace fossil.

February 28, 2025 5:06 am

If you want hydrogen: Pyrolysis of methane gives hydrogen and black carbon.
We need a play-based approach: source rock, extraction pathways, reservoir rock and caprock, seal or trap.
That and only that gives you the required volumes.

February 28, 2025 3:16 pm

If it pans out, geologic hydrogen could be a wild card that boosts energy abundance without the baggage of wind farms, solar deserts, or endless green gimmicks.

Yeah, it’ll be a real boon to that hydrogen economy that doesn’t exist. Like nuclear fusion power plants, it’s always just 30 years away.

SwampeastMike
February 28, 2025 10:44 pm

Should exploitable deposits be located I suggest that much like geothermal energy it should be utilized to generate electricity essentially on top of the energy supply. To continue, in the quite likely event that exploitable deposits are not conveniently located with regards to consumers of electricity then the hydrogen must be sufficiently abundant and economical to extract as to incur the additional costs of long-distance DC transmission.

So far there seems no reason to get excited as it bears great similarity to methane hydrate which was pushed as the great new energy source more than twenty years ago. The estimations of potentially exploitable methane hydrate seem far more certain than those made for hydrogen.