Farage Trashes Net Zero, Promises to “Re-industrialise Britain”
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Nigel Farage has said he is on a mission to “reindustrialise” Britain, as he accused the Government of having a “miserable” and “declinist” attitude.
Speaking at the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship conference in London, the Reform UK leader said that the country needs to achieve a “180 shift” in its attitude to achieve higher birth rates.
He also claimed on Tuesday that the right-wing of politics in the UK “is not split”.
Taking questions from Canadian psychologist and political commentator Jordan Peterson on stage, Mr Farage told activists: “The right is not split in this country.
While Net Zero is not top of Farage’s priority list, Farage has been a consistent opponent of expensive energy.
Reform tops a YouGov poll for the first time
4 February 2025, 7:38am
There’s reason for cheer at Reform HQ this morning: Nigel Farage’s party is leading Labour in a YouGov voting intention poll for the first time. According to the poll, Reform UK leads on 25 points with Labour in second place on 24 per cent and the Conservatives in third on 21 per cent. Meanwhile, the Liberal Democrats are on 14 per cent and the Greens on 9 per cent. While there have been a handful of polls to date putting Reform in the lead, they have so far been regarded as outliers. In response to the poll, Richard Tice, the deputy leader of Reform, said: ‘Much more to come as common sense policies welcomed to save Britain and make us better off’.
Farage’s upstart Reform Party represents a dramatic potential u-turn from decades of bipartisan British Net Zero zealotry.
The current British government is arguably the most extreme green government Britain has ever had, they strongly supports Net Zero and expensive energy. Their energy ideas have frequently featured in WUWT.
A lot of money appears to be lining up behind Farage’s Reform Party, for the first time in its short history. It’s difficult to untangle why this is happening, UK business has made a lot of money from Net Zero.
The issue may be artificial intelligence. In order to stay relevant in today’s global economy, UK business leaders need to embrace artificial intelligence. They may be feeling frustration at the inability of Net Zero to supply the gargantuan energy needs of all the AI capacity they need to build in the near future.
The next UK general election is not due until 2029, so they have a long wait until the British can execute any change in direction. But the momentum for change appears to be growing. A growing number of British people are utterly fed up with green orthodoxy and economic decline, and like the look of what Farage is offering.
I’m not convinced that the next UK general election is as far away as 2029. I certainly hope that Keir Starmer’s government, in spite of (or even partly because of) its huge majority, will collapse long before then.
“I’m not convinced that the next UK general election is as far away as 2029.”
Then you do not understand the British system of Parliamentary dictatorship. The only way Starmer can be toppled is if his own party revolts in very big numbers. Long before that, they will have lined up his successor who will carry the torch until the next election.
2016 “Theresa May on Wednesday received the Queen’s blessing to replace David Cameron as Britain’s prime minister” – Politico
2019 “Boris Johnson chosen to replace Theresa May as UK prime minister” – ABC
2022 “Liz Truss has won the contest to replace Boris Johnson as Conservative Party leader and prime minister. ” – BBC
2022 “Rishi Sunak will be the new prime minister after he won the Conservative Party leadership election. The contest followed the resignation of Liz Truss as prime minister.” – BBC
When were they – bar Johnson – elected by general election, then? Do tell.
Sunak went early to wrong foot Reform in particular, which worked to the extent that Reform got a handful of seats.
But the Tory vote stayed at home in larger numbers than the Labour vote. When a party whose leader spent the election campaign doing stupid stunts gets 72 seats you know the country is in trouble.
I can’t see Starmer doing anything less than 4 years 9 months. So just 4 years 2 months to go!
Sunak called an election 4/2 years after the last one. That’s not early in the context of UK early elections ,where around 4 years is more normal- expect for the period when it was fixed at 5 yrs
Germany, the UK, France, etc., are in Chaotic De-growth Mode
Their Euro elites are forcing populations to put up with, and pay for, tens of millions of unvetted walks-ins, who make minimal contributions, cause maximal pain, crime and chaos, all while sucking from the government tit.
Spending more on defense and Net-Zero green stuff, will be accelerating de-growth
,
The woke elites in Europe and the US are pre-maturely closing, already-paid-for, in-good-working-order nuclear plants.
The woke elites have banned 1) oil and gas fracking projects, 2) gas/oil pipelines, 3) gas/oil storage systems near power plants, and 4) new energy exploration projects, as part of “leaving it in the ground”
.
The very important results of DOGE are not reported by the leftist, USAID-subsidized, Corporate Media, but the criticisms of DOGE are reported 24/7/365.
And so, the people in New England, the US and Europe are permanently kept in the dark, already for at least 5 decades, or more.
The Social-Media, by gaining eyeballs, is quickly ending the Corporate-Media monopoly, which is losing eyeballs. US VICE PRESIDENT JD VANCE SPEECH IN MUNICH, FEBRUARY 14, 2025; FULL TEXT https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/us-vice-president-jd-vance-speech-in-munich-february-14-2025
A revolt in the labour party, which can be more likely in a party with a huge majority, could result in a vote of no confidence, which would then bring on a general election. Major civil unrest could make that situation more likely. 5 years is a long time in politics.
You don’t know history, TWICE in the 70s, governments were forced out, Heath, then Callaghan.
CampsieFellow
February 20, 2025 2:37 am
Nigel Farage, whose Reform Party is on track to win the next election.
Not yet he isn’t. Because of the way that the first-past-the=post electoral system works, Reform would not even be the largest party in the House of Commons on those polling figures. A lot of money appears to be lining up behind Farage’s Reform Party, for the first time in its short history. It’s difficult to untangle why this is happening, UK business has made a lot of money from Net Zero.
Firstly, not all British businesses have made a lot of money from Net Zero. Secondly, not all British businesses are giving money to Reform. At the moment it looks like a few rich businessmen are giving large donations.
According to the Electoral Calculus user defined poll, Reform would be the largest party on the opinion poll figures, but a long way short of having an overall majority. Reform would need to get to 30 or 31 percent to achieve an overall majority.
The largest party is not always the winning party, they have to get a majority of the 650 MP’s to be able to Govern outside of a coalition. Reform could get the most MP’s but be short of a majority and two other parties could form a coalition.
Of course, that’s over-estimating the expected success of Reform in a General Election.
Parliamentary seats are larger and more diverse than council seats, so it’s harder for a minor party – who have widely distributed but shallow support to concentrate and win the seat.
In other words, FPTP means Reform have no hope. And the election results show it.
Reform’s vote is not evenly distributed across the country which is the reason Reform can get an overall majority with only 31% of the vote. Reform’s vote is much higher in the north of England, Wales and the Midlands than the rest of Britain.
But the votes show that’s not true.
7 / 184 seats won.
Not disputing that a party with the support of a tv channel has gathered lots of followers.
But they aren’t concentrated.
Those council elections were held when Reform’s vote share was much lower in the opinion polls. Reform’s vote share has only recently managed to catch up to the other main parties. It is very obvious that Reform’s votes are concentrated in various parts of the country. All of the computer projections from different sources show that Reform can win an overall majority with about 31% of the vote. This is achieved by Reform winning most of the seats in the north of England, the east of England, Wales and the Midlands. Reform wins no seats in Scotland and very few in London or the south west but those areas are not needed for an overall majority.
Of those… ” few rich businessmen” some are seeing the light and others the benefit…
“Ian Corfield, a banker who generously gifted over £20,000 to key Labour figures—including Rachel Reeves—has snagged a plush civil service position in the Treasury, as noted by Politico. – Guido Fawkes
“…corporate bosses are demanding a refund after shelling out £3,000-a-head for Labour’s “business day” at the party conference, calling it “bleak” and a “waste of money.” Labour bragged about hosting hundreds of top execs at their biggest-ever business day, with big names promised access to the PM, Chancellor, and other top ministers. Though executives have been left with a bitter taste after getting “minimal time” with ministers and being “talked at” for four hours from the stage. That is bleak…
Perhaps my comment was not sufficiently explicit. The few rich businessmen I was referring to are people donating to Reform so references to people who have donated money to Labour are an entirely different matter.
Given the track record of the last few Parliaments, the chances of an early election are virtually nil. Parties replace the fallen without a general election; Brown, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak…. Starmer to go for ?
Well, I suppose ‘on track’ can be interpreted very widely. Personally, I wouldn’t put them ‘on track’ to ‘win the next election’ until they are sufficiently ahead in the polls to indicate that they have a good chance of winning an overall majority of seats.
Considering they were an also ran party before the 2024 elections expected to get 0 – 1 seats, and they got 5. And considering that Farage was, until then, the most successful politician of the modern generation, delivering on the largest vote the British public have ever had – and he wasn’t even an MP, working with another also ran party at the time, which managed to out manoeuvre the oldest political party in the world over Brexit, I would say that facing a desperately unpopular government, perceptibly driving the country to ruin, with a new political scandal almost day to day, pretty well indicates that ‘On Track’ at this stage in a parliament is very much in pole position to win an election in 2029 with a large majority.
Then we have the Trump effect. All going well, I think it’s a racing certainty the country will boom over the next 4 years and people in the UK will cotton on very rapidly, not least, businesses and investors.
An ‘unexpected’ inflation rate announced this week, and the best the OBR and government can say is, “That was unexpected”. And that’s the good news, as unemployment rises when businesses and investors come to prefer the deregulation of America to the increasingly stifling business environment of the EU influenced UK.
My prediction is an early election will be called in late 2026/early 2027 as things get so bad for Labour the alternative will be riots in the streets.
A fantasy. Was there riots in the streets 2-3 years back when inflation was over 8%.
Some disorder over the young girls stabbing, not like France where they have riots in the streets fairly regularly ….and don’t change the government either
If Reform accept that there is a strong anti-Westminster element in Scotland and play to that then they could pick up some of the 30 seats that used to go to Unionist and Right wing parties in Scotland. This would dent Labour’s chances overall in my view anyway.
And I seem to be one of the few people who likes Tice. He’s articulate, not afraid to speak his mind and, like Farage, laughs off criticism.
Whilst Reform can be criticised for it being easy to be a happy minority party, no other minority party seems very happy, other than the deranged Liberal Democrats with the bonkers Ed Davey leading them.
Their web page is boasting 90,000 members, Reform were about that shortly before the General Election!
I wish Tice would do some work on what is a proper energy policy for ditching net zero His ideas he’s been going with:
Just Stop Batteries – for now, needed to keep the grid stable
Bury all transmission lines – a huge expense and the wrong target
Nationalise the utilities – another huge expense that will only make things less efficient
Tax back the subsidies renewables enjoy – but these are protected in their contracts from just such an attack, which would trigger immediate compensation claims
None of it works: it’s playground stuff, not serious.
Kemi and Nigel need to have a serious talk before the next general election, to make the “first past the post” system work for them, not against them. Then they can win.
Probably won’t be necessary. The Tories will kick Kemi out anyway at the end of her protected year. They desperately need to split. The Wets can go off and join the Lib Dems – or try to take them over (which will be hard). The sensible ones will be vetted and taken under the Reform wing.
strativarius
February 20, 2025 2:53 am
Even the saintly Bliar is sounding the, er, alarm.
Ed Miliband’s claim that net zero will create hundreds of thousands industrial jobs is vastly overstated, Sir Tony Blair’s think tank has warned. The Tony Blair Institute for Global Change (TBI) said investing in green technology was unlikely to reverse the long-term decline of British industry and warned that ministers must not “over-state the job opportunities from green manufacturing”.
The think tank added that it was a “mistake” to let net zero dominate the Government’s entire economic strategy as it would deliver only a meagre boost to growth. It said: “It must be a pillar of the UK’s growth strategy, but it cannot be the whole strategy.” … It said green manufacturing was likely to employ only 425,000 people by 2050 in a “best-case scenario” – a third less than than promised and decades later. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/02/20/ed-miliband-net-zero-false-tony-blairs-think-tank-warns/
But I wonder if Tony realises just how loony, how ideological his heirs are? How eager they are to throw our [limited] cash around the globe like confetti.
“over £500 million of foreign aid is currently being spent by the Government on projects across the world to help farmers..” – MSN
How can that be funded? By taxing UK farmer, of course…
“UK’s £500 Million Farm Tax to Raise Less Than Hoped, OBR Says” – Bloomberg
The climate scam makes pyramid selling look kosher. And… The election is an awful long way off. There isn’t a cat in hell’s chance of an early vote. And deindustrialisation continues
“Another day, another blow to the economy thanks to Reeves. Consumer confidence has crashed to a record low of -37 according to new figures from the British Retail Consortium. Drops for a fifth month in a row…
BRC boss Helen Dickinson warns that shop owners will have no choice but to jack up prices and slash jobs just to survive thanks to the “triple whammy of Budget costs, business rates rises and new packaging and recycling levies.” With costs passed on to consumers…” https://order-order.com/2025/02/20/consumer-confidence-hits-record-low-under-reeves/
HMRC sent me my new tax codes yesterday…
Robert Brook
February 20, 2025 3:05 am
Wishful thinking. Farage and Tice and co haven’t a chance in 2029, barring some unforeseen catastrophic circumstance. The Liberal Democrats, a much more established party, have been trying for decades without success. And Labour aren’t going anywhere, their majority is simply far too large. The best hope for derailing the Net Zero nonsense is the slow drip, drip of real science and an awakening to the sheer expense of implementing Net Zero among the general population. Milliband is looking increasingly vulnerable. Even the BBC is asking questions, and when it gets that far….
All this Reform party surge reminds me of some year ago when 3 or 4 “Leading Lights” of the then Labour Party jumped ship and formed the Democrat party or something like that name. And this was something new, something exciting, something different. And, lo and behold their popularity surged. They were going to do great things. Then people realised that they were just the same old, same old.and their popularity faded away. It faded so far, that in order to survive at all they had to muscle in with the Liberals to form the Liberal Democrats. I can see the same happening again, especially as “Nige” isn’t that popular. So, given that the next election isn’t scheduled while 2029, there’s plenty of time for the shine to fade
Indeed there is, but whereas the SDP started with the “Gang of Four” Labour rebels (David Owen, Shirley Williams, Roy Jenkins and Bill Rodgers) who were already established senior ministers, Reform starts with no previous MPs, so there isn’t the baggage. The downside is that they need to establish a cast of people who can be ministers and take over (and often shut down) quangos and other obstructive bits of the state system.
There is much to learn from how Trump is doing it this time, though a new UK government would not have the benefit of Executive Orders. It would have to pass bills in Parliament, and get them through the Lords too. They need to work out which laws they must tackle first.
Britain has discovered a large gas field in Lincolnshire.
The gas will be left in the ground by Miliband.
The reason is very simple. The gas field is far too small to affect the price of gas in the global market, so Britain will still have high gas prices, while the gas field is so large that using it will destroy the planet.
The gas field is far too small to affect the price of gas in the global market, […] while the gas field is so large that using it will destroy the planet.
If it means importing less gas, then Britains in general will be better off.
Gas isn’t going to destroy the planet, regardless of how big the field is. CO2 is a beneficial gas and should not be restricted in any way, shape or form.
If it means importing less gas, then Britains in general will be better off.
That’s not how the market works. British users will buy gas from the cheapest available source, and the gas companies will sell their gas wherever they can make the most money, and that could be anywhere.
I keep seeing people making this claim about domestic gas fields. It can only work if we nationalise the gas, and history tells us it doesn’t work even then.
(Your second point I agree with.)
2hotel9
February 20, 2025 3:17 am
Very clear it is time for the people of UK have to rise up and drag all these enemies who have infiltrated their government out by their heels and take their damned country back.
The jackboot army tried that a month after the last general election. They rioted, chanted Tory slogans like “stop the Boats” and set fire to buildings with non-white children in them.
Then what happened?
The majority came out on the streets in far greater numbers to defend democracy.
Yet, the UK still stands above sea level. it’s been a chilly winter and the annual winter Dunkelflaute have mostly stilled its wind turbines and solar panels. The dreaded fossil fuels have kept it moderately comfortable. The 1.5 C “tipping point” simply didn’t tip.
It’s time to face reality:
The CO2 increase has been beneficial.
A bit warmer is better, especially for the UK.
The only short-term technology to overcome intermittent power sources are fossil fuels and nuclear electricity.
Pumped storage, even that pumped by rainfall is simply inadequate.
BEVs work best as a second or third car for the rich.
The climate simply hasn’t changed beyond its historical range, especially that of the last few billion years.
“BEVs work best as a second or third car for the rich.”
Just make sure you don’t park them anywhere near the house.
Sean Galbally
February 20, 2025 6:45 am
Highly sensible to trash the Net zero subsidies which cost a fortune but achieve nothing. However everybody needs to understand why. The reason is that man made carbon dioxide is a trace gas and completely insignificant compared with water vapour and clouds which are far and away the most prolific green house gas. The climate always changes and we adapt, but it is not caused by man nor can it be changed by him. There is no climate crisis.
Birth rates are well below replacement, so parents have no children to look after their interests in old age. They are having to look to migrants to care for them. Who inherits when there are no children?
jack rodwell
February 20, 2025 8:34 am
Can’t see us Brits doing anything as revolutionary as voting in Reform we tried revolution in the 1600s by cutting off king Charles l head but after 10 years we couldn’t cope and invited his son back to rule. One of the reasons us Brits are good at war is we do as we’re told centuries of knowing your place in a class system does that. Let the enemy come over the hill in thousands and if we number 50 and told to stand and fight thats what we do. Bit weird really.
Tom Halla
February 20, 2025 10:55 am
British politicians have been consistently disappointing, Boris Johnson as a case in point.
ethical voter
February 20, 2025 2:21 pm
“The Conservative Party is not on the right in any measurable way”. True but all political parties are left of centre as parties are a leftist construct. This includes Reform and the Republican Party.
Every aspiring party seeks to offer something more favourable than the incumbent. Good or bad, right or wrong it doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is power and once that is achieved promises (aka bribes) can be dealt with as the party likes.
The true Right belongs to independents. Although this is rather vacant ground at present it will not remain so.
Edward Katz
February 20, 2025 6:16 pm
It’s good to see that Britons, like Americans have already showed and Canadians are likely to show, have realized that the whole Net Zero concept is just an unattainable mirage. It has consistently revealed that such a goal not only can’t be reached with today’s prevailing green technology but also need not be reached if it succeeds in bringing only higher consumer prices and undependable energy supplies while having little or no effect on the weather or climate.
I’m not convinced that the next UK general election is as far away as 2029. I certainly hope that Keir Starmer’s government, in spite of (or even partly because of) its huge majority, will collapse long before then.
“I’m not convinced that the next UK general election is as far away as 2029.”
Then you do not understand the British system of Parliamentary dictatorship. The only way Starmer can be toppled is if his own party revolts in very big numbers. Long before that, they will have lined up his successor who will carry the torch until the next election.
Did you not notice the Tories doing that?
The Tories held an early election.
Is that the Thursday funny?
2016
“Theresa May on Wednesday received the Queen’s blessing to replace David Cameron as Britain’s prime minister” – Politico
2019
“Boris Johnson chosen to replace Theresa May as UK prime minister” – ABC
2022
“Liz Truss has won the contest to replace Boris Johnson as Conservative Party leader and prime minister. ” – BBC
2022
“Rishi Sunak will be the new prime minister after he won the Conservative Party leadership election. The contest followed the resignation of Liz Truss as prime minister.” – BBC
When were they – bar Johnson – elected by general election, then? Do tell.
You said: “The only way Starmer can be toppled is if his own party revolts in very big numbers.”
I said, in not so many words: No it’s not, Starmer could call an early election.
Sunak went early to wrong foot Reform in particular, which worked to the extent that Reform got a handful of seats.
But the Tory vote stayed at home in larger numbers than the Labour vote. When a party whose leader spent the election campaign doing stupid stunts gets 72 seats you know the country is in trouble.
I can’t see Starmer doing anything less than 4 years 9 months. So just 4 years 2 months to go!
I’m not disputing what Sunak or anyone else did.
I’m saying that a Labour party revolt is not the ONLY way Labour can be gone early.
Read what I post, not what you want me to post.
Sunak called an election 4/2 years after the last one. That’s not early in the context of UK early elections ,where around 4 years is more normal- expect for the period when it was fixed at 5 yrs
Germany, the UK, France, etc., are in Chaotic De-growth Mode
Their Euro elites are forcing populations to put up with, and pay for, tens of millions of unvetted walks-ins, who make minimal contributions, cause maximal pain, crime and chaos, all while sucking from the government tit.
Spending more on defense and Net-Zero green stuff, will be accelerating de-growth
,
The woke elites in Europe and the US are pre-maturely closing, already-paid-for, in-good-working-order nuclear plants.
The woke elites have banned 1) oil and gas fracking projects, 2) gas/oil pipelines, 3) gas/oil storage systems near power plants, and 4) new energy exploration projects, as part of “leaving it in the ground”
.
The very important results of DOGE are not reported by the leftist, USAID-subsidized, Corporate Media, but the criticisms of DOGE are reported 24/7/365.
And so, the people in New England, the US and Europe are permanently kept in the dark, already for at least 5 decades, or more.
The Social-Media, by gaining eyeballs, is quickly ending the Corporate-Media monopoly, which is losing eyeballs.
US VICE PRESIDENT JD VANCE SPEECH IN MUNICH, FEBRUARY 14, 2025; FULL TEXT
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/us-vice-president-jd-vance-speech-in-munich-february-14-2025
A revolt in the labour party, which can be more likely in a party with a huge majority, could result in a vote of no confidence, which would then bring on a general election. Major civil unrest could make that situation more likely. 5 years is a long time in politics.
A fantasy. Labour discipline is famously more strict than the Tories. The big majority means the dissafeected are booted from the party
The only way, they’ll be pushed into an early election, is if we have another ‘winter of discontent’ incident.
Sadly I fear, the British electorate, are akin to a drowning man, clinging to a piece of flotsam, and refusing to let go and be rescued.
Have you no political instincts whatsoever. A discontented electorate would mean going to the full 5 years not less
You don’t know history, TWICE in the 70s, governments were forced out, Heath, then Callaghan.
Nigel Farage, whose Reform Party is on track to win the next election.
Not yet he isn’t. Because of the way that the first-past-the=post electoral system works, Reform would not even be the largest party in the House of Commons on those polling figures.
A lot of money appears to be lining up behind Farage’s Reform Party, for the first time in its short history. It’s difficult to untangle why this is happening, UK business has made a lot of money from Net Zero.
Firstly, not all British businesses have made a lot of money from Net Zero. Secondly, not all British businesses are giving money to Reform. At the moment it looks like a few rich businessmen are giving large donations.
According to the Electoral Calculus user defined poll, Reform would be the largest party on the opinion poll figures, but a long way short of having an overall majority. Reform would need to get to 30 or 31 percent to achieve an overall majority.
Electoral Calculus had the Tories winning 78 seats for the 2024 General Election.
The largest party is not always the winning party, they have to get a majority of the 650 MP’s to be able to Govern outside of a coalition. Reform could get the most MP’s but be short of a majority and two other parties could form a coalition.
Reform have won 7 council seats since the election.
That’s 7 out of 184 elections.
Reform UK has picked up 7 seats from 184 by-elections since July
Of course, that’s over-estimating the expected success of Reform in a General Election.
Parliamentary seats are larger and more diverse than council seats, so it’s harder for a minor party – who have widely distributed but shallow support to concentrate and win the seat.
In other words, FPTP means Reform have no hope. And the election results show it.
Reform’s vote is not evenly distributed across the country which is the reason Reform can get an overall majority with only 31% of the vote. Reform’s vote is much higher in the north of England, Wales and the Midlands than the rest of Britain.
But the votes show that’s not true.
7 / 184 seats won.
Not disputing that a party with the support of a tv channel has gathered lots of followers.
But they aren’t concentrated.
Those council elections were held when Reform’s vote share was much lower in the opinion polls. Reform’s vote share has only recently managed to catch up to the other main parties. It is very obvious that Reform’s votes are concentrated in various parts of the country. All of the computer projections from different sources show that Reform can win an overall majority with about 31% of the vote. This is achieved by Reform winning most of the seats in the north of England, the east of England, Wales and the Midlands. Reform wins no seats in Scotland and very few in London or the south west but those areas are not needed for an overall majority.
Of those… ” few rich businessmen” some are seeing the light and others the benefit…
“Ian Corfield, a banker who generously gifted over £20,000 to key Labour figures—including Rachel Reeves—has snagged a plush civil service position in the Treasury, as noted by Politico. – Guido Fawkes
“…corporate bosses are demanding a refund after shelling out £3,000-a-head for Labour’s “business day” at the party conference, calling it “bleak” and a “waste of money.” Labour bragged about hosting hundreds of top execs at their biggest-ever business day, with big names promised access to the PM, Chancellor, and other top ministers. Though executives have been left with a bitter taste after getting “minimal time” with ministers and being “talked at” for four hours from the stage. That is bleak…
One chief complained: “We paid £3,000 to come here and what did we get? A livestream of Rachel [Reeves]’s speech and then to be made to queue in a bleak corridor for a drinks reception where there was no access to ministers.”
https://order-order.com/2024/09/25/business-leaders-demand-money-back-from-labour-after-scam-event/
Perhaps my comment was not sufficiently explicit. The few rich businessmen I was referring to are people donating to Reform so references to people who have donated money to Labour are an entirely different matter.
They’re getting burned bigtime at the CBI.
Given the track record of the last few Parliaments, the chances of an early election are virtually nil. Parties replace the fallen without a general election; Brown, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak…. Starmer to go for ?
Yes. It’s become a very Australian type of politics.
On track…….
Well, I suppose ‘on track’ can be interpreted very widely. Personally, I wouldn’t put them ‘on track’ to ‘win the next election’ until they are sufficiently ahead in the polls to indicate that they have a good chance of winning an overall majority of seats.
Considering they were an also ran party before the 2024 elections expected to get 0 – 1 seats, and they got 5. And considering that Farage was, until then, the most successful politician of the modern generation, delivering on the largest vote the British public have ever had – and he wasn’t even an MP, working with another also ran party at the time, which managed to out manoeuvre the oldest political party in the world over Brexit, I would say that facing a desperately unpopular government, perceptibly driving the country to ruin, with a new political scandal almost day to day, pretty well indicates that ‘On Track’ at this stage in a parliament is very much in pole position to win an election in 2029 with a large majority.
Then we have the Trump effect. All going well, I think it’s a racing certainty the country will boom over the next 4 years and people in the UK will cotton on very rapidly, not least, businesses and investors.
An ‘unexpected’ inflation rate announced this week, and the best the OBR and government can say is, “That was unexpected”. And that’s the good news, as unemployment rises when businesses and investors come to prefer the deregulation of America to the increasingly stifling business environment of the EU influenced UK.
My prediction is an early election will be called in late 2026/early 2027 as things get so bad for Labour the alternative will be riots in the streets.
A fantasy. Was there riots in the streets 2-3 years back when inflation was over 8%.
Some disorder over the young girls stabbing, not like France where they have riots in the streets fairly regularly ….and don’t change the government either
Reform UK now has over 210,000 members and growing. It has now officially democratised, becoming Reform 2025 Ltd. It is on a roll!
If Reform accept that there is a strong anti-Westminster element in Scotland and play to that then they could pick up some of the 30 seats that used to go to Unionist and Right wing parties in Scotland. This would dent Labour’s chances overall in my view anyway.
What right wing parties in Scotland. With the libdems, greens labour and SNP it’s probably 70% leftish parties
👍 Farage hasn’t even got started yet.
And I seem to be one of the few people who likes Tice. He’s articulate, not afraid to speak his mind and, like Farage, laughs off criticism.
Whilst Reform can be criticised for it being easy to be a happy minority party, no other minority party seems very happy, other than the deranged Liberal Democrats with the bonkers Ed Davey leading them.
Their web page is boasting 90,000 members, Reform were about that shortly before the General Election!
I wish Tice would do some work on what is a proper energy policy for ditching net zero His ideas he’s been going with:
Just Stop Batteries – for now, needed to keep the grid stable
Bury all transmission lines – a huge expense and the wrong target
Nationalise the utilities – another huge expense that will only make things less efficient
Tax back the subsidies renewables enjoy – but these are protected in their contracts from just such an attack, which would trigger immediate compensation claims
None of it works: it’s playground stuff, not serious.
Kemi and Nigel need to have a serious talk before the next general election, to make the “first past the post” system work for them, not against them. Then they can win.
Probably won’t be necessary. The Tories will kick Kemi out anyway at the end of her protected year. They desperately need to split. The Wets can go off and join the Lib Dems – or try to take them over (which will be hard). The sensible ones will be vetted and taken under the Reform wing.
Even the saintly Bliar is sounding the, er, alarm.
Ed Miliband’s claim that net zero will create hundreds of thousands industrial jobs is vastly overstated, Sir Tony Blair’s think tank has warned. The Tony Blair Institute for Global Change (TBI) said investing in green technology was unlikely to reverse the long-term decline of British industry and warned that ministers must not “over-state the job opportunities from green manufacturing”.
The think tank added that it was a “mistake” to let net zero dominate the Government’s entire economic strategy as it would deliver only a meagre boost to growth. It said: “It must be a pillar of the UK’s growth strategy, but it cannot be the whole strategy.”
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It said green manufacturing was likely to employ only 425,000 people by 2050 in a “best-case scenario” – a third less than than promised and decades later.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/02/20/ed-miliband-net-zero-false-tony-blairs-think-tank-warns/
But I wonder if Tony realises just how loony, how ideological his heirs are? How eager they are to throw our [limited] cash around the globe like confetti.
“over £500 million of foreign aid is currently being spent by the Government on projects across the world to help farmers..” – MSN
How can that be funded? By taxing UK farmer, of course…
“UK’s £500 Million Farm Tax to Raise Less Than Hoped, OBR Says” – Bloomberg
The climate scam makes pyramid selling look kosher. And… The election is an awful long way off. There isn’t a cat in hell’s chance of an early vote. And deindustrialisation continues
“Another day, another blow to the economy thanks to Reeves. Consumer confidence has crashed to a record low of -37 according to new figures from the British Retail Consortium. Drops for a fifth month in a row…
BRC boss Helen Dickinson warns that shop owners will have no choice but to jack up prices and slash jobs just to survive thanks to the “triple whammy of Budget costs, business rates rises and new packaging and recycling levies.” With costs passed on to consumers…”
https://order-order.com/2025/02/20/consumer-confidence-hits-record-low-under-reeves/
HMRC sent me my new tax codes yesterday…
Wishful thinking. Farage and Tice and co haven’t a chance in 2029, barring some unforeseen catastrophic circumstance. The Liberal Democrats, a much more established party, have been trying for decades without success. And Labour aren’t going anywhere, their majority is simply far too large. The best hope for derailing the Net Zero nonsense is the slow drip, drip of real science and an awakening to the sheer expense of implementing Net Zero among the general population. Milliband is looking increasingly vulnerable. Even the BBC is asking questions, and when it gets that far….
“ the slow drip, drip of real science”
So, by 2100? Have you got that long?
The slow drip drip of science has been ongoing for 50 years.
All this Reform party surge reminds me of some year ago when 3 or 4 “Leading Lights” of the then Labour Party jumped ship and formed the Democrat party or something like that name. And this was something new, something exciting, something different. And, lo and behold their popularity surged. They were going to do great things. Then people realised that they were just the same old, same old.and their popularity faded away. It faded so far, that in order to survive at all they had to muscle in with the Liberals to form the Liberal Democrats. I can see the same happening again, especially as “Nige” isn’t that popular. So, given that the next election isn’t scheduled while 2029, there’s plenty of time for the shine to fade
Farage is just a media sausage…something the news cycle needs to fill the gaps until something better comes along
Indeed there is, but whereas the SDP started with the “Gang of Four” Labour rebels (David Owen, Shirley Williams, Roy Jenkins and Bill Rodgers) who were already established senior ministers, Reform starts with no previous MPs, so there isn’t the baggage. The downside is that they need to establish a cast of people who can be ministers and take over (and often shut down) quangos and other obstructive bits of the state system.
There is much to learn from how Trump is doing it this time, though a new UK government would not have the benefit of Executive Orders. It would have to pass bills in Parliament, and get them through the Lords too. They need to work out which laws they must tackle first.
Britain has discovered a large gas field in Lincolnshire.
The gas will be left in the ground by Miliband.
The reason is very simple. The gas field is far too small to affect the price of gas in the global market, so Britain will still have high gas prices, while the gas field is so large that using it will destroy the planet.
“The reason is very simple. “
“Solar Lincolnshire: Seven major farms in the pipeline”
It has nothing to do with gas prices.
‘these ambitious projects could power over 637,000 homes,’
I wonder if the author of that article had heard of ‘sunset’?
What counts is the author is “on message”.
Neat summary.
Neat, but both wrong and irrelevant.
If it means importing less gas, then Britains in general will be better off.
Gas isn’t going to destroy the planet, regardless of how big the field is. CO2 is a beneficial gas and should not be restricted in any way, shape or form.
That’s not how the market works. British users will buy gas from the cheapest available source, and the gas companies will sell their gas wherever they can make the most money, and that could be anywhere.
I keep seeing people making this claim about domestic gas fields. It can only work if we nationalise the gas, and history tells us it doesn’t work even then.
(Your second point I agree with.)
Very clear it is time for the people of UK have to rise up and drag all these enemies who have infiltrated their government out by their heels and take their damned country back.
The jackboot army tried that a month after the last general election. They rioted, chanted Tory slogans like “stop the Boats” and set fire to buildings with non-white children in them.
Then what happened?
The majority came out on the streets in far greater numbers to defend democracy.
The UK is not the USA. We defend our rights.
You don’t even defend your daughter, sisters and wives. And you damned sure don’t defend your rights, liar.
As Mark Steyn has been saying for years “The UK, where everything is policed but crime”.
Do you defend your right to pray silently near an abortion clinic?
Even Tony Bliar has trashed millibrains vision
1.5 C HAS BEEN BREACHED!!
Yet, the UK still stands above sea level. it’s been a chilly winter and the annual winter Dunkelflaute have mostly stilled its wind turbines and solar panels. The dreaded fossil fuels have kept it moderately comfortable. The 1.5 C “tipping point” simply didn’t tip.
It’s time to face reality:
The CO2 increase has been beneficial.
A bit warmer is better, especially for the UK.
The only short-term technology to overcome intermittent power sources are fossil fuels and nuclear electricity.
Pumped storage, even that pumped by rainfall is simply inadequate.
BEVs work best as a second or third car for the rich.
The climate simply hasn’t changed beyond its historical range, especially that of the last few billion years.
“BEVs work best as a second or third car for the rich.”
Just make sure you don’t park them anywhere near the house.
Highly sensible to trash the Net zero subsidies which cost a fortune but achieve nothing. However everybody needs to understand why. The reason is that man made carbon dioxide is a trace gas and completely insignificant compared with water vapour and clouds which are far and away the most prolific green house gas. The climate always changes and we adapt, but it is not caused by man nor can it be changed by him. There is no climate crisis.
Wasn’t the £22 billion that’s being thrown to Ed Milibland just about the size of the alleged black hole uncovered by Rachel from Accounts?
Will there even be a UK by 2029?
Birthrates are low because parents now expect their children to survive and aren’t haven’t extra children in case they die.
Birth rates are well below replacement, so parents have no children to look after their interests in old age. They are having to look to migrants to care for them. Who inherits when there are no children?
Can’t see us Brits doing anything as revolutionary as voting in Reform we tried revolution in the 1600s by cutting off king Charles l head but after 10 years we couldn’t cope and invited his son back to rule. One of the reasons us Brits are good at war is we do as we’re told centuries of knowing your place in a class system does that. Let the enemy come over the hill in thousands and if we number 50 and told to stand and fight thats what we do. Bit weird really.
British politicians have been consistently disappointing, Boris Johnson as a case in point.
“The Conservative Party is not on the right in any measurable way”. True but all political parties are left of centre as parties are a leftist construct. This includes Reform and the Republican Party.
Every aspiring party seeks to offer something more favourable than the incumbent. Good or bad, right or wrong it doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is power and once that is achieved promises (aka bribes) can be dealt with as the party likes.
The true Right belongs to independents. Although this is rather vacant ground at present it will not remain so.
It’s good to see that Britons, like Americans have already showed and Canadians are likely to show, have realized that the whole Net Zero concept is just an unattainable mirage. It has consistently revealed that such a goal not only can’t be reached with today’s prevailing green technology but also need not be reached if it succeeds in bringing only higher consumer prices and undependable energy supplies while having little or no effect on the weather or climate.