‘Historic’ Snowstorm Impacting Southern States

It is ironic that the day after President Trump essentially moved to nullify U.S. Climate Policy, the coldest and deepest winter storm in over 40 years descends on the country.

When normally hot-headed for “weather is climate change” CNN calls it, you know it’s gonna be big.

Winter Storm Warnings have been posted and stretch from the U.S.-Mexico border all the way to Duval County, Florida. Get this: 3-5 Inches of snow is in the forecast for Houston, TX; 2-5″ for New Orleans; and up to 3″ along the west Florida panhandle through Wednesday.

Already there have been reports of snow in the area, along with strong winds and freezing temperatures. In one case posted on Twitter, a swamp airboat was turned into a snowmobile – h/t to “Paul in the heights” on Twitter:

And it gets more interesting. For example, a Blizzard Warning was issued for the Lake Charles area by the National Weather Service serving New Orleans/Baton Rouge. That’s something you don’t see every day.

Meanwhile, in Kansas City, the temperature has dipped to -9°F this morning. This breaks the old daily record low of -6°F set in 1935. 

And it isn’t just Kansas City, much of the nation is seeing new cold records today. Dozens if not hundreds of cold weather records have been set. Over 75% of the US expected to face freezing temperatures this week.

Other interesting examples:

https://twitter.com/ChrisMartzWX/status/1881742242488238190

Snow at the University of Houston, where they closed the campus:

https://twitter.com/UHouston/status/1881724543892443628

The NWS in Jacksonville Florida predicts snow and freezing temperatures:

Further north, in Atlanta, the NWS says:

A Winter Storm Warning and a Winter Weather Advisory are in effect from 10 am Tuesday until 7 am Wednesday. Although the snow accumulations are highest over central (especially west central Georgia) in the Warning area, travel impacts will be the primary concern with ANY snow amount. Expect the afternoon and evening commutes Tuesday to be impacted, as well as Wednesday commutes.

Climate Scientist Dr. David Viner, who once famously bloviated:

However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.

“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.

…could not be reached for comment. Likely because his blunder has been disappeared from the Internet.

You can bet though, that the usual suspects will start blaming this event on climate change, citing the climate driven excuses “polar vortex” and “weather whiplash”.

Note: Tweets from Chris Martz were used for some elements of this story.

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Nick Stokes
January 21, 2025 2:08 pm

Don’t mess with Greenland!

Scissor
Reply to  Nick Stokes
January 21, 2025 2:16 pm

NE Maine. Anyway, I’ve never seen so much snow in the Gulf of America region.

abolition man
Reply to  Scissor
January 21, 2025 2:49 pm

Maybe the Gulf of Mexico decided to self-deport south into the Caribbean, leaving only the colder Gulf of America water behind!

hdhoese
Reply to  abolition man
January 21, 2025 6:18 pm

Enough with the name changes, causes some of us location problems. Maybe not for the whole Gulf but they may pull out Seno Mexicano or French Golfe du Méxique. Spain was the first recorded in the Gulf, not long after Columbus. French came in later sometimes claiming their Partie du Golfe du Méxique.

Different weather pattern but Texas coast got more snow from a Christmas Eve 2005 snowstorm. Snowed on the Mexican border in December, 1880. Many others in between.

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  hdhoese
January 22, 2025 6:19 am

And , Feb 1973 , 4 inches plus in Pascagoula Miss

Could tell right away who was a “Damn Yankee” by their ability to drive in snow ….

😉

R.Morton
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
January 22, 2025 11:12 am

HAHAHAHA!!!

Leon de Boer
Reply to  Nick Stokes
January 21, 2025 3:03 pm

I thought it was global warming making a sneak attack that nobody expected.

Mr.
Reply to  Leon de Boer
January 21, 2025 6:51 pm

No one expects the Greenland global warming.
It’s chief weapon is surprise.
That, and a fanatical dedication to the CoP.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Nick Stokes
January 22, 2025 5:45 am

That’s the best you have? Seems you are a bit on the cold side this morning.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
January 22, 2025 2:15 pm

Great quip! 😎
But who was messing with Greenland over a generation ago? 😎

Tom Halla
January 21, 2025 2:15 pm

Well, it did snow in Marble Falls, just northwest of Austin, Texas. Fairly light, and it was melted by 9:30 AM or so.

jvcstone
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 21, 2025 3:41 pm

I’m a bit to the NW of Marble Falls, and happy to be out of the winter weather, except for some very cold temperatures. Nothing like taking care of new born goats when the temp is in the teens.

Rich
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 22, 2025 5:59 am

Out in NW Houston, we had 1 to 2 inches of snow. Nice to see occasionally…once every 3 years or so. This was certainly NOT a “once in a lifetime” event. I’ve lived here for nearly 40 years and have witnessed 3 or 4 winter storms that were significantly worse.

Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 2:16 pm

The present forecast for Pensacola (FL) where it started snowing hours ago is for total accumulation of 4-6 inches—a new Florida record. And whether Jacksonville gets mostly snow or ice is still not clear as it is right on the boundary.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 2:25 pm

What proportion of global surface area does Pensacola constitute, Rud?

I mean, should we use it as a weathervane for the entire global surface?

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 2:59 pm
Reply to  bnice2000
January 21, 2025 3:32 pm

Is Al Gore doing a speaking tour?

Scissor
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
January 21, 2025 4:09 pm

He’s at a WEF meeting in Davos I believe where it is snowing as one might expect.

Reply to  bnice2000
January 21, 2025 5:30 pm

The temperature hit 7 degrees F here this morning.

It’s supposed to warm up in the next few days, though.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 22, 2025 2:54 pm

On my front porch it got down to -3.5*F last night. Now it’s up 12.9* at 6 PM.
“Global Warming”!
It sure acts quickly!

Giving_Cat
Reply to  bnice2000
January 21, 2025 8:00 pm

> Nearly all of the USA seems to be in a deep freeze at the moment.

Yeah. It barley hit 70°F in Ventura today. Harshness of winter.

Reply to  Giving_Cat
January 21, 2025 8:22 pm

“It barley hit 70°F.. … “

That sounds a bit whiskey !! 🙂

Leon de Boer
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:06 pm

You need to find out if it has a good tree with rings. You never know with Climate Science what might be good data.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Leon de Boer
January 21, 2025 3:09 pm

Factoid. Palm trees don’t have rings.

Leon de Boer
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 3:29 pm

That just means they can draw there own rings 🙂

Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 6:00 pm

does that, then, indicate that they really aren’t trees?

MarkW
Reply to  DonM
January 21, 2025 6:50 pm

I believe they are more closely related to grasses.

alastairgray29yahoocom
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 9:36 pm

So how do you date them? Ask ME Mann

Reply to  alastairgray29yahoocom
January 22, 2025 12:13 am

give them roses

Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 22, 2025 2:59 pm

I guess that means they are proof there’s no such thing as “Climate Change”?
Mann would know!

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:24 pm

What proportion of global surface area does Pensacola constitute, Rud?

I mean, should we use it as a weathervane for the entire global surface?

Of course not. We’ll just need to homogenise it with some nearby* areas like your heroes like to do, and the whole dataset will be freezing!

(*Like 1500km, in Australia, for example.)

MarkW
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 6:48 pm

Funny how that never matters to you when heat waves are being discussed.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 12:12 am

I mean, should we use it as a weathervane for the entire global surface?

Why not, Mann used a single tree for his hookey stick

One tree ring to rule them all.

Reply to  Redge
January 22, 2025 2:35 am

The Prescious.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 4:46 am

A better question is why is CO2 not protecting the U.S.? It should be too warm to snow!

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 5:45 am

That’s the best you got? Oh, such a disappointment.

heme212
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 6:04 am

so is it true berkeley earth’s global temperature record goes back to the 1800s?

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 2:47 pm

What proportion of global surface area …”

That get ssssssooo old.
You say something like that a local or regional (like this one) cold event happens that get a headline yet NEVER say anything when a heat event or even a hurricane happens.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 6:44 pm

Snowfall records will be a regular feature in the northern hemisphere for the next 5,000 years or so. It is not possible to have cold land adjacent warmer oceans without getting more snowfall. More heat into the oceans increases evaporation leading to more atmospheric water that gets dropped on land as snow once the land drops below 0C.

Anyone wanting to understand climate needs to know a lot about how ice forms on land, on want and, most importantly, in the atmosphere.

Someone
Reply to  RickWill
January 22, 2025 7:49 am

Why only 5,000 years? What is going to happen after this?

In 5k years the Earth is almost guaranteed to be in another glaciation.

Also, each successful glaciation seem to be colder than the preceding, and the Earth may again precipitate into frozen snowball state.

Reply to  Someone
January 22, 2025 1:11 pm

The solar intensity will increase in the NH for 9,000 years but the peak snowfall will occur before then. Within 5,000 years the ice on the land will be gaining elevation resulting in the less moisture reaching the higher elevations so snowfall on the ice will decline. Melt will also decline because it is not easy to melt ice once it is established on land while oceans are still warm albeit at lower level than than present.

The snowfall and sea level slows down as the the solar intensity declines after the 9,000 years. In the past 500,000 years, the ice on the land has sometimes started to melt before the next fall in sea level.
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You will see that 100,000 years ago the level recovered by around 20m as the solar intensity at 15N reduced. The orbital eccentricity was high then so the swings due to the precession cycle were much greater than present. Hence I do not expect much snow melt after 9,000 years but It will level out for around 11,000 years similar to what happened 380,000 years back when eccentricity was similar to the present era.

Mr.
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 6:55 pm

Globule warming will do that Rud. 🙂

Yooper
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 22, 2025 5:42 am

I’m snowbirding on Weeks Bay, about 30 miles west of Pensacola, and it is 18 degrees F and I “kinda” measured 5″ of snow on the picnic table. Oh, and the little canal that runs by the house is frozen over!

January 21, 2025 2:22 pm

“Trump cancels global warming…”

Even as early indicators suggest that we are living through one of the warmest Januarys, if not the warmest January on record, globally.

Capture
Reply to  Anthony Watts
January 21, 2025 2:31 pm

Oh, it’s a joke?

So in fact you agree that we are living through one of the warmest Januarys recorded by instruments globally, but it’s a bit cold in parts of the US?

I didn’t get that joke, sorry.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 2:38 pm

No actually , the world is still only a degree or so above the COLDEST period in 10,000 year.

Barely above full-on ICE AGE status.

Nearly all the last 10,000 years has been significantly warmer than now.

kwinterkorn
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 2:48 pm

It has been slowly warming for almost 200 years, as the climate has risen out of the Little Ice Age. Natural then, with an upward trend, that “climate records” (which are always using short term data sets) occur often.

There have been four major Warm Periods in the last 4000 years (Minoan, Roman, Medieval, and now). Thankfully we are in a Warm Period——Life thrives in warmth, dies off in cold.

bdgwx
Reply to  kwinterkorn
January 21, 2025 2:58 pm

Can you post a link to a global average temperature reconstruction showing these warm periods?

Reply to  bdgwx
January 22, 2025 6:16 am

global average temperature reconstruction showing

I always find it amazing that they talk about these periods with a straight face. All the modern, high quality, high resolution reconstructions show the hockey stick, of course, so they give vague references to historical records when pressed for evidence. They don’t even get how ridiculous this is ‘cos what historical records do we have from the Minoan era? They sometimes say that all reconstructions are bad but the historical memory is clear. But what historical records give us are very bad, low resolution reconstructions.

Reply to  kwinterkorn
January 21, 2025 3:00 pm

It has been slowly warming for almost 200 years…

No, there was no global warming trend recorded globally since reliable records began in 1850 right up to ~1930. That’s eighty years of zero global warming trend.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:54 pm

It’s usual at the end of a little ice age it’s warmer years later.

Old Mike
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 4:17 pm

Mind you don’t break a tooth on those cherries

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 5:37 pm

Nothing was recorded globally from 1850 to the 1930’s.

“Global” temperature data sets of today are created using (bastardized) written, historic, regional data.

Your “Global” data set is a conglomeration of regional data sets. A bastardized conglomeration at that.

Derg
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 6:23 pm

The 30s were cold 😉

Reply to  Derg
January 22, 2025 3:07 pm

There was no such thing as “The Dust Bowl” in the 30’s.
It was really “The Snow Bowl”.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 7:34 pm

Reliable. That’s a good one!
Almost as good as “global” warming. Chuckle.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 8:30 pm

Well, actually , there was.. by Hansen et al…

It just got “erased” by the corruption of the climate agenda.

Global-Temperature-1880-1980-copy
Reply to  bnice2000
January 22, 2025 5:39 am

I like that chart.

Yeah, the Temperature Data Mannipulators had to do something about the warmth of the past. otherwise they couldn’t sell their Human-caused Climate Change narrative, if it was just as warm in the recent past as it is today.

More CO2 in the air today, but it’s no warmer than it was in the past. Therefore, CO2 has had no measurable effect on the Earth’s temperatures. Climate Alarmists can’t have people thinking that way, so they bastardize the temperature record and create a False Reality Hockey Stick chart to scare people with.

Anthony Banton
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 22, 2025 11:07 am

Yeah, the Temperature Data Mannipulators had to do something about the warmth of the past.

See above:

Do you like it as much now?

After all it’s still there … just extended a further 44 years.
And risen by ~ 1C

Reply to  Anthony Banton
January 24, 2025 3:30 am

It hasn’t risen by 1C here where I live. In fact, it is cooler now than in the past.

Your 1C rise is a figment of Phil Jones’ imagination.

Anthony Banton
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 25, 2025 2:05 am

What is it about to concept of variability of the mean, that you cannot comprehend

Anthony Banton
Reply to  bnice2000
January 22, 2025 11:05 am

It just got “erased” by the corruption of the climate agenda.”

Err ….. no. It’s still there !

Thing is the GMST has risen by ~ 1C since 1980…

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Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 8:34 pm

Or we could use an early version of HadCrut3 which shows clear warming of nearly 2 degrees C from 1910 to 1939

temp-vs-CO2
Reply to  bnice2000
January 22, 2025 5:50 am

Yes, and Hansen 1999(below), shows a clear cooling of about 2.0C from the 1930’s to the 1970’s.

In the 1970’s (for those not around then), climate scientists had watched this 2.0C cooling over the decades and they were starting to get worried that this cooling would continue after the 1970’s, and the Earth might be entering a New Ice Age.

You won’t see the dramatic warming from the 1910’s to the 1930’s, and the dramatic cooling from the 1930’s to the 1970’s on the bogus, bastardized, “hotter and hotter” Hockey Stick charts which have distorted this whole period of time in their efforts to sell the Human-caused Climate Change narrative. They have to rewrite temperature history to do it, and they have. They erased the high points and the low points from the past in order to make the temperature record conform with the amount of CO2 going into the air.

But we still have the old charts that tell the true story, and that story is that CO2 appears to have had little effect on Earth temperatures because it was just as warm in the recent past as it is today, even though there is more CO2 in the air today than in the past. CO2 has had no visible effect going by the legitimate temperature profile recorded in the regional temperature records. Below is an example of such a regional temperature chart.

Hansen 1999:

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Anthony Banton
Reply to  bnice2000
January 22, 2025 1:21 pm

That graph is of “anomaly difference” (vs CO2 ppm).
Whatever that is … as it doesn’t appear to be a basic anomaly plot with the spread over the y-axis seemingly doubled.

this is the true Hadcrut3 temp anomaly vs CO2 forcing (W/m^2)

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This is a more detailed graph showing Hadcrut3 vs Hadcrut4 ….

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old cocky
Reply to  Anthony Banton
January 22, 2025 4:31 pm

this is the true Hadcrut3 temp anomaly vs CO2 forcing (W/m^2)

I was taught that the graph terminology was dependant vs independent (y vs x).

I’ve seen a few people use the same terminology here for what are effectively graph overlays of dependent 1 [vs independent 1] and dependent 2 [vs independent 2].

Is this a difference in science courses between countries?

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 8:39 pm

And in the Arctic, Hansen shows warming of over 2.7C from 1880-1940

arctic-hansen
Dave Andrews
Reply to  bnice2000
January 22, 2025 8:34 am

Hubert Lamb, who left the UK Met Office to set up the CRU at the University of East Anglia, notes in his ‘Climate, History and the Modern World’ that the open season at the coal port in Spitsbergen (Svalbard) went from three months of the year before 1920 to over seven months of the year by the late 1930s and that the average total area of Arctic sea ice declined by 10-20 per cent over that period.

When he left the Met Office they agreed to match the funds he had already raised to set up the CRU. Those funds came from oil company Shell.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 8:53 pm

And the NAS showed over a degree of warming in the NH from 1880 to 1940 (NH was the only place that had any decent amount of reliable measurements)..

1940s-warmer-2
alastairgray29yahoocom
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 9:42 pm

Show me a few raw temperature records that illustrate your point and I will show you a hundred that don’t just search the GISS database

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 12:30 am

reliable records began in 1850 right up to ~1930. 

There are no global temperate records from 1850 to the 1930s.

For example, measurements from the Continent of Africa were sparse at best until the middle of the 20th century, and even then, vast areas of jungle, etc., were missing.

Before 1930, some countries and regions that had more reliable temperature data:

United States: USHCN provides temperature data for the contiguous United States, with records dating back to before 1895.

United Kingdom: The CET data series started in 1659 and is the longest-running temperature record available.

Russia: Temperatures are available from the early 1930s.

Parts of Europe, not all.

Reply to  Redge
January 22, 2025 6:01 am

Australia has pretty good records going back to the 1800’s.

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It was just as warm in Australia in the recent past as it is today. CO2 has had no visible effect on Australia’s temperatures.

You find that same story in every regional historic temperature record.

The bogus Hockey Stick chart tries to change that story.

Anthony Banton
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 22, 2025 1:59 pm

“It was just as warm in Australia in the recent past as it is today. CO2 has had no visible effect on Australia’s temperatures.”

You need to look at average temps to determine that….

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”Anomalies in annual temperature over land in the Australian region. Anomalies are the departures from the 1961–1990 standard averaging period.”

And the frequency of extreme heat events is increasing ….

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“Number of days each year where the Australian area-averaged daily mean temperature is extreme. Extreme days are those above the 99th percentile of each month from the years 1910–2017. These extreme daily events typically occur over a large area, with generally more than 40 per cent of Australia experiencing temperatures in the warmest 10 per cent for that month.”

https://www.csiro.au/en/research/environmental-impacts/climate-change/State-of-the-Climate/Previous/State-of-the-Climate-2018/Australias-changing-climate

Max temps have a limitation …. convection.
Min temps do not.
Hence Tave is required to see overall warming.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 4:53 am

No, there was no global warming trend recorded globall

And how much area did the proxies that were used cover? You gunch about how much area the U.S. or its states cover, but not a word about the localized areas of proxies.

MarkW
Reply to  kwinterkorn
January 21, 2025 6:53 pm

5 warm periods, you forgot the Egyptian which was between the Minoan and Roman warm periods.

altipueri
Reply to  MarkW
January 21, 2025 11:32 pm

It caused the fall of Pharaoh Pepe because rains failed in Africa so the Nile didn’t flood hence the Pharaoh was out of favour.

bdgwx
Reply to  MarkW
January 22, 2025 8:43 am

Can you post a global temperature reconstruction showing these 5 warm periods?

Reply to  bdgwx
January 22, 2025 9:48 am

Can you get a new act?

This one is boring.

Reply to  MarkW
January 23, 2025 3:26 am

5 warm periods, you forgot the Egyptian which was between the Minoan and Roman warm periods

And you forgot the Czechoslovakian, Mongolian, and Estonian warm periods 😉 Now seriously, how do you know about these warm periods? Especially the Minoan is interesting, for multiple reasons.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 2:51 pm

Actually, The planet is only a degree or so above the COLDEST period in 10,000 years.

Barely above full-on Ice Age temperatures.

Most of the last 10,000 year of human expansion and existence has been significantly warmer than now.

Anthony Banton
Reply to  bnice2000
January 22, 2025 2:14 pm

Actually, The planet is only a degree or so above the COLDEST period in 10,000 years”.

Current global temps are ~ 2C above those of 10k years ago.

Barely above full-on Ice Age temperatures”.

No, ~ 8C above those of the depths of the last IA.

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https://phys.org/news/2021-11-global-temperatures-years-today-unprecedented.html

Leon de Boer
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:09 pm

Warmest ever and yet life went on like normal … who knew?

Reply to  Leon de Boer
January 21, 2025 5:43 pm

It wasn’t the warmest ever around here.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:52 pm

The hottest january ?
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Have a look at th left picture, -34°C is hot ?
😀

Scissor
Reply to  Krishna Gans
January 21, 2025 5:39 pm

For a cryogenic fluid, maybe.

Reply to  Krishna Gans
January 21, 2025 6:56 pm

Most of the Earth surface is water and most of the water is anomalously warm but none of it exceeds 30C and never will unless the atmospheric mass increases considerably above present level.

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Someone
Reply to  RickWill
January 22, 2025 8:24 am

Oceans are deep and cold. Let’ not confuse thin layer of surface temps with “most of the water”.

Reply to  Krishna Gans
January 21, 2025 9:16 pm

That is why TFN never once uses real, measured temperatures to promote his lies but rather GAT and anomalies.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 2:59 pm

Of course, you don’t because that requires being rational to understand it a common problem for warmist/alarmists everywhere.

abolition man
Reply to  Anthony Watts
January 21, 2025 2:45 pm

Warmunists aren’t allowed to get humor, Anthony! Any that show a tendency to laugh or smile get a mandatory petite lobotomy that also prevents them from understanding science! Yelling, shrieking and crying are the only permitted forms of communication!
Geology, paleoclimatology, and oceanography cannot compete with corrupted climate computer models and bastardized temperature records in the what passes for the mind of a warmunist

Reply to  abolition man
January 21, 2025 3:04 pm

Warmunists aren’t allowed to get humor, Anthony! 

So this is how it ends?

Faced with the absolute stupidity and redundancy, the ridiculous arguments and nonsensical proclamations made on this site over more than a decade, it all ends by saying “we were only joking!’

Rather than admit that you were just flat wrong…

abolition man
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:16 pm

It’s more polite than saying that you’re an f’ing moron!

Reply to  abolition man
January 22, 2025 9:49 am

TFM — almost the same acronym.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:57 pm

Have the participants of climate-gate admitted to any wrong doing?

Old Mike
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 4:19 pm

Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect

Curious George
Reply to  Anthony Watts
January 21, 2025 5:59 pm

Anthony, don’t bother. His January is over by now.

alastairgray29yahoocom
Reply to  Anthony Watts
January 21, 2025 9:49 pm

If you want an alternative village idiot you can have Mr Starmers very own Foreign Minister David Lammy who won an Oscar in village idiocy

MarkW
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 6:59 pm

Poor little alarmist, had your feelings hurt.
Just because the party tells you not to believe something, doesn’t make that thing wrong.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 3:05 pm

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You never disappoint in your clueless babblings you offer here.

MarkW
Reply to  abolition man
January 21, 2025 6:57 pm

Maybe they use the Col. Flagg treatment. Watch the 3 stooges for 3 days straight, and jab themselves with a fork whenever they feel like laughing.

Reply to  MarkW
January 22, 2025 9:50 am

Then break their own arms.

Reply to  Anthony Watts
January 21, 2025 2:58 pm

Seems to be a common shortcoming among the climate-terrified.

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  Phil R
January 21, 2025 3:13 pm

Lefties in general, or maybe it’s just statists and other control freaks, scared to death of showing any sign of individuality.

MarkW
Reply to  Anthony Watts
January 21, 2025 6:51 pm

He is the joke here.

Reply to  Anthony Watts
January 22, 2025 12:16 am

Greens rarely have a sense of humour

Reply to  Redge
January 22, 2025 4:57 am

They can get no satisfaction. Nothing ever works out in their favor!

mikewaite
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 2:33 pm

Trump dismisses global warming and a few hours later snow hits Florida .Now that’s power.

Reply to  mikewaite
January 21, 2025 2:35 pm

Or weather.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 2:54 pm

Or weather.”

As are warm and hot days..

And strong winds and no wind, and wet periods and dry periods.

Its only natural variability. !

Anthony Banton
Reply to  bnice2000
January 22, 2025 2:32 pm

”Natural variability” that appears to be favouring increasing warmth.

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“Observed changes in the occurrence of record-setting daily temperatures in the contiguous United States. Red bars indicate a year with more daily record highs than daily record lows, while blue bars indicate a year with more record lows than highs. The height of the bar indicates the ratio of record highs to lows (red) or of record lows to highs (blue). For example, a ratio of 2:1 for a blue bar means that there were twice as many record daily lows as daily record highs that year. Estimates are derived from long-term stations with minimal missing data in the Global Historical Climatology Network–Daily dataset.”

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“a Percent of the global land area with monthly temperatures above different sigma-thresholds in any calendar month (averaged over the year). b Global annual mean series (1880−2020) of the ratio of observed local monthly temperature records on land compared to those expected in a stationary climate. The thick black line shows the trend with a 10-yr smoothing window, and the magenta line and shading show the median and 90% confidence interval for the statistical model driven by the long-term global warming trend over land and Gaussian noise. c Deviation series (1950−2016) of the observed number of local daily-rainfall records aggregated over the year and global land areas (in percentage with respect to that expected in a stationary climate). The black line shows the long-term trend. Blue shading shows the 90% confidence interval for a stationary climate”.

Reply to  Anthony Banton
January 22, 2025 3:07 pm

Your endless red herrings are BORING!

No one here disputes that it has been warming for a while.

Reply to  Sunsettommy
January 23, 2025 11:33 am

No one here disputes that it has been warming for a while.

The real questions are where and what, Tmax or Tmin.

Leon de Boer
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:10 pm

Or funny 🙂

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:14 pm

I thought you guys called it climate.

MarkW
Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
January 21, 2025 7:01 pm

It’s only climate when it’s warmer than yesterday.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MarkW
January 22, 2025 5:39 am

It’s only climate when they can scare the bejesus out of the masses.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:27 pm

Or weather.

The (unintentional) irony is strong in this one…

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
January 22, 2025 2:49 am

Indeed. TFN typed the word ‘weather’, yet TFN still lives! Perhaps a lesson learnt, that yes, I can think for myself.

jvcstone
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:48 pm

What’s that old saying–better to keep ones mouth shut and just be thought of as stupid, than to open it and confirm it for everyone.

Old Mike
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 4:22 pm

Do you realize how dumb you appear, this is the “final nail” in the climate change scare-mongering scam, please accept reality and just go away and sit in the corner, there’s a good person

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 4:28 pm

Ah, now you see the difference!

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 9:20 pm

Remember children: high temperatures are always a sign of GW. Low temperatures are merely weather.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 3:06 pm

Ooooh, it’s not climate change anymore, hit the beach everybody!!!

Reply to  mikewaite
January 21, 2025 3:56 pm

Where is Al Gore ? 😀

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Krishna Gans
January 22, 2025 5:39 am

He is like those children that will never see snow. He is out building a snowman.

Reply to  mikewaite
January 21, 2025 4:28 pm

But did it get to Mar-a-Largo?

Reply to  mikewaite
January 21, 2025 5:48 pm

I loved the picture and caption at the top! Anthony is right, some people don’t have a sense of humor. It made me laugh out loud.

bdgwx
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 2:54 pm

If it were only that easy to cancel the laws of physics with the stroke of a pen…

Scissor
Reply to  bdgwx
January 21, 2025 2:59 pm

Clinton made a cigar disappear.

abolition man
Reply to  Scissor
January 21, 2025 3:18 pm

Isn’t that where the appellation “Slick Willy” came from?

Reply to  Scissor
January 21, 2025 3:28 pm

I think Monica did that….

Scissor
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
January 21, 2025 4:51 pm

Actually, it was a Cuban.

Mac
Reply to  Scissor
January 21, 2025 5:08 pm

I had an idea some time back,
Label a box of cigars and call them,
Slick Willies
Label them
Smoke em or Poke em your choice

Scissor
Reply to  Mac
January 21, 2025 5:43 pm

Bill was cheap, so he did both. Monica was hot at first until he got the order worked out.

MarkW
Reply to  Scissor
January 21, 2025 7:04 pm

He was too cheap to buy a humidor.

Reply to  MarkW
January 22, 2025 6:06 am

The Clinton’s were so cheap (and corrupt) they stole furniture out of the White House.

Leon de Boer
Reply to  bdgwx
January 21, 2025 3:26 pm

You know that laws of physics were shown to be wrong for well over 100 years now, you don’t need a pen.

If you want to be technical the 2nd law of thermodynamics still stands because it woven into GR and QM.

Reply to  bdgwx
January 21, 2025 4:47 pm

The actual laws of physics (as opposed to “climate science fizzucs”)

… clearly show that enhancing CO2 above current levels can have no measurable warm effect.

You do know that “climate models” use an atmosphere that doesn’t actually exist on this planet or any other, don’t you.

Junk physics from the ground up.

MarkW
Reply to  bdgwx
January 21, 2025 7:03 pm

That would be the climate models.

Reply to  bdgwx
January 22, 2025 9:52 am

From the dude who thinks the door of a convection oven heats the interior…

bdgwx
Reply to  karlomonte
January 22, 2025 10:40 am

For those curious about what karlomonte is talking about you can view the complete discussion here and here. At no time did I ever say the door of a convection heats the interior. What I said is that cold bodies can be the cause of warm bodies getting warmer and that closing the door of a kitchen oven is an indisputable demonstration of this fact. Heat pumps are another familiar example that I mentioned. And I stand by my statement because it is a mind numbingly simple fact. Yet the usual suspects including karlomonte, and many others that I was surprised by, think this mind numbingly simple and indisputable fact is nonsense. Does anyone else want to go on record and throw their hat in the ring of absurdity with them?

Reply to  bdgwx
January 22, 2025 11:05 am

Closing an oven door has absolutely zero relevance to the cold plate/warm plate experiment that was the topic of discussion.

Reply to  bdgwx
January 23, 2025 11:53 am

What I said is that cold bodies can be the cause of warm bodies getting warmer and that closing the door of a kitchen oven is an indisputable demonstration of this fact.

“Getting warmer” is an aphorism for a rise in temperature. That violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Closing an oven door stops the loss of heat due convection, i.e., a greenhouse. My kitchen stove works by convection, not radiation. It is not a good analogy.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 4:05 pm

And even If, If people are living with -34°C they may have a sense of humour and laugh reading your senseless comment.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 9:12 pm

No one apart from bedwetters like you could care less about the fictitious GAT.

What is it like watching Trump dismantle your precious Global Warming scam?

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 12:16 am

Global temperature is just a recent construct designed by alarmists to scare people.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Redge
January 22, 2025 5:41 am

+100

There is a long list that is not at the top of.

Reply to  Redge
January 22, 2025 6:08 am

Absolutely!

January 21, 2025 2:27 pm

Moist atmospheres are needed for snow as well as rain. A natural, long term self-regulating climate cycle.

Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 2:30 pm

FL Gov DeSantis north Florida weather ‘emergency’ declaration today was for the FL coastline of the Gulf of America. First official use. Still trying to get back into Trump’s good graces.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 2:37 pm

The clown car gets sillier and sillier.

Very entertaining.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 2:44 pm

Cranky? Trump won resoundingly, and elections have immediate consequences.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 2:56 pm

Congratulations to Trump.

Re the US, you tend to reap what you sow.

Let’s see how this goes.

JamesB_684
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:18 pm

I’m a fan of warming. It was brutally cold at work today. Up on an industrial crane next to the water… working in a big steel box, 70 feet up, in a light breeze with 28 F. Brrr…

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:21 pm

“Let’s see how this goes.”

Well, for starters, Trump just announced a $500 billion (that’s billion with a ‘b’) investment in artificial intelligence here in the U.S. Trump stated that it will create 100,000 jobs.

One of the investors who was with him at the announcement stated that this massive investment in AI will help humanity answer a lot of questions which we otherwise would not be able to answer.

Better treatments (and maybe cures?) for cancer was cited as one example. Would this have happened in a Harris presidency? I wonder…..

Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
January 21, 2025 6:04 pm

“Would this have happened in a Harris presidency?”

No, it would not have happened. One of the three investors said just about as much in an interview right after he appeared with Trump.

Artificial Intelligence is all about electrical power. Trump makes it possible for these billionaires to get enough electricity. Harris would have hampered their efforts to get enough because of the Green New Deal.

One of the three investors says he wants to build his own power plants to power his Data Centers, and Trump, earlier, endorsed that concept, and hopefully all these new AI Data Centers will be self-powered, and stay off the Public Grid, as our Grids are already stretched to the limits.

Charles Payne of Fox News said today that every nuclear stock and anything connected with nuclear skyrocketed in the Stock Market after Trump announced an Energy Crisis.

And I imagine some of this new $500 billion investment will be spent on nuclear reactors. So more stock market stimulus added to the mix.

Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
January 22, 2025 3:01 am

I think this is a PPP. Let’s hope the vast majority of $ is put up by the Private ‘P’.

The USA does have a major government spending problem. One hopes Scott Bessent was in POTUS’ ear on this partnership.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 3:35 pm

In what country were you reared?

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 4:53 pm

you tend to reap what you sow.”

USA will now see progress, prosperity, freedom, jobs, cheaper fuel hence cheaper everything, secure borders, removal of illegal thugs and gangs, the destruction of wokeness and fake genders.. etc etc

Yep, you reap what you sow. 🙂

Reply to  bnice2000
January 21, 2025 9:27 pm

I sincerely hope the second Trump Administration will also see comprehensive investigation and criminal prosecutions of the Biden family, Fauci, Pelosi, Schiff, Cheney et al.

Reply to  Graemethecat
January 22, 2025 6:16 am

Me, too. It’s not about revenge, it’s about justice. If we let these criminal Democrats and a few Republicans get away with these crimes, then we can expect such things to happen again in the future.

Americans need the truth in order to be able to govern themselves properly.

Otherwise, they will vote for the wrong people who will end up destroying the United States.

Biden was doing a pretty good job of destroying the United States, but we now have a break with that insanity with the election of Trump. We need to make this break permanent. Radical Democrats are BAD for the United States. This should be obvious to people by now. If not, after the positive Trump changes, maybe they will see the light.

Derg
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 6:27 pm

We get it you are a genocide Joe fanboy

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 5:43 am

Re the US, you tend to reap what you sow.

That is our HOPE, the crop we reap from Trump’s sane policies.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 3:13 pm

“Re the US, you tend to reap what you sow.”

The US has been raped enough the last for four years.
“Time for a Change”!

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 3:20 pm

Man, you are a truly dumb fella as America greatly suffered under Biden who did so many things wrong that it had to be deliberate because normal people would never be this wrong 95% of the time in trying to the right thing.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 3:01 pm

He’s cranky because TheFinalNail realizes that Trump is putting TheFinalNail in his (climate change) coffin.

Reply to  Phil R
January 21, 2025 3:08 pm

I’m ready for the funeral; are you?

Old Mike
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 4:24 pm

is it a cremation?

Mr.
Reply to  Old Mike
January 21, 2025 7:18 pm

Nah.
Emissions of any kind are B.A.D.

Leon de Boer
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 10:32 pm

Nah we are party sort of people and our partying gets louder the hotter it is.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 2:56 pm

[all taunting is off limits to you~ctm]

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 21, 2025 4:18 pm

The clown car gets sillier and sillier.
Very entertaining.

Who is in there with you ??

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  TheFinalNail
January 22, 2025 5:42 am

“The clown car gets sillier and sillier.”

Yes, it does, as in the EV you pretend to own won’t work in these temperatures.

kwinterkorn
January 21, 2025 2:41 pm

To use climate alarmist thinking, this storm is clear evidence for global cooling.

abolition man
Reply to  kwinterkorn
January 21, 2025 3:20 pm

Wrong, wrong, wrong! This clear evidence of global weirding and ocean boiling, of course!!

JiminNEF
January 21, 2025 2:42 pm

In St Augustine, I think it’ll miss us. People are still going a little crazy.

Scissor
Reply to  JiminNEF
January 21, 2025 3:03 pm

Is the Castillo de San Marcos still above water?

JiminNEF
Reply to  Scissor
January 21, 2025 7:35 pm

Yes, but sea level rise is a threat if we don’t mitigate by 2525.

J Boles
January 21, 2025 2:54 pm

Story tip – Trump takes on the climatecrats – spiked

Excerpt – In truth, those ‘obligations’ are more like empty promises. The scandalous, nonsensical truth about the Paris Agreement is that it obliges literally nothing. It requires governments to, every five years, submit pieces of paper called ‘Intended Nationally Determined Contributions’ (INDCs), which can consist of saying you plan to go on doing what you are doing to cut greenhouse-gas emissions. Or even to do less than you were doing before. Most countries can then ignore the INDCs and do whatever they feel like anyway. There is almost no monitoring involved, let alone reprimanding, indicting or punishing. Only Britain has made its INDCs legally binding.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  J Boles
January 21, 2025 3:13 pm

And ‘Britain’ has only two future choices. Fail, or undo the law. Of course it could also fail before undoing the law, as presently seems likely.

Old Mike
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 4:27 pm

As an expatriate Brit, I’m sorry to say my country of birth is swirling around the basin before it implodes.

Beta Blocker
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 21, 2025 6:24 pm

Based on the current trend, the collapse of Britain could happen somewhere between Season 7 and Season 9 of Lucy Worsley Investigates. She will have a lot to say about why it happened, we can be sure.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 22, 2025 12:39 am

Sadly, Rud, barring a miracle, I think failure is the only option left for the UK, and we’re almost there.

Reply to  Redge
January 22, 2025 6:21 am

That’s the way it’s looking.

the UK needs a Trumpian intervention. 🙂

abolition man
January 21, 2025 3:15 pm

Surely this is proof positive of hydroclimate whiplash! I foresee US temperatures starting to oscillate like the wheels on a toddler’s pushcar. The warmunist mind matches up well with the toddler as well!

Loren Wilson
January 21, 2025 3:28 pm

I am puzzled. We got more snow and ice in Houston four years ago during the Valentine’s day storm which was colder and lasted longer, yet this is touted as a once-in-a-lifetime event. I think generally, the entire region was colder then than this storm. I am not sure that reporters even care about a bit of research which will ruin their narrative.

Reply to  Loren Wilson
January 21, 2025 6:15 pm

“yet this is touted as a once-in-a-lifetime event.”

I was wondering about that myself. One weather person said this was the most snow in the South since records have been recorded.

Another weather person said it was a once-in-a-decade snow storm. That’s probably closer to the truth.

Leon de Boer
January 21, 2025 3:37 pm

Trump announces ‘largest AI infrastructure project’ in history called Stargate there were plenty of fans who don’t like the use of that name and are pouring cold air his way. Just saying never upset die hard Scifi fans.

January 21, 2025 3:51 pm

the coldest and deepest winter storm in over 40 years descends on the country”

Obviously due to global warming! /s

January 21, 2025 4:05 pm

Well, it’s still snowing here in NW Florida. A solid 4-5″ (possibly more) with another 4-6 hrs ahead of us. NWS posted the all-time Florida snowfall record was 4″ in Milton, FL (25-30 miles north of here), and I think we’ve already broken that. In fact, the state of Florida has brought in snow plows, if you can believe that!

Admin
January 21, 2025 4:15 pm

The maximum snowfall recorded in Florida today, January 21, 2025, is 5.5 inches in Molino, Florida, breaking the previous state record of 4 inches

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Rud Istvan
Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 21, 2025 9:40 pm

So I jokingly this evening called my daughter in Evergreen CO asking if she could send us Floridians some snow plows. She said hell no, they are all needed here.
Simple winter explanation, no climate change needed.

January 21, 2025 4:28 pm

Who said this was a warm winter? I live in northeast PA, which gets pretty chilly in the winter. This however, has been the coldest winter I ever remember. A foot of snow before Thanksgiving , couple of subzero days before Christmas (never saw that before late January), at least a week of sub freezing days, and snowplowing. This week, already subzero nights and more to come. I know, global warming is causing me to freeze my ass off sitting on my gator plowing snow several times already.

John Hultquist
January 21, 2025 5:09 pm

The January Thaw (look it up) is on its way**. As my dear mother would say, “Here’s your coat and boots. Go out and play.”

January 21, 2025 6:24 pm

One reason for this winter storm being so strong is because it consists of a combination of the northern and southern jet streams coming together over the Eastern United States.

Here’s a Nullschool link to the jet streams:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#2025/01/22/0200Z/wind/isobaric/500hPa/orthographic=-107.48,42.21,422

alastairgray29yahoocom
January 21, 2025 9:33 pm

If we called it the French Channel then maybe the French could keep all the boatloads of single fighting age followers of profit Engineers and Doctors at home in France where they have much better hotels

RogerT
January 22, 2025 2:57 am

In 1978 my wife and I moved to Lubbock TX after 2 years of living in or near Terminillo, a ski resort in Italy 120km from Rome. That year, in February I think, there was a snow storm. I have never seen anything so funny as watching the locals try to drive in something they rarely saw. Not helped by the big heavy automatic cars they were driving of course, but there were countless slow-motion collisions on my drive to work.

Sparta Nova 4
January 22, 2025 5:33 am

It was 3 F this morning in Maryland when I left for work Sub-zero wind chill.

Yes. We WANT global warming.

sciguy54
January 22, 2025 8:25 am

Tuesday night I saw a rather reputable-looking man measure 12 inches of snow on a lawn chair in his New Orleans Garden District back yard. And it was still snowing. I was a few miles away the winter of 79-80, I believe, when a cold snap killed a 100-year-old grapefruit tree overhanging my back yard:( This looks much wintrier. If the “climate” turns deadly cold can we sue everyone who pushed “global warming” for damages?

Admin
January 22, 2025 8:41 am

NEW: Florida broke their state snow record from the historic winter storm on Tuesday. New totals are in and Milton received 9.8″, more than double the old record of 4″ from 1954 (in also Milton).

For many areas, this will be a once-in-a-lifetime experience they’ll never forget. https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/2744.svghttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/2603.svg #Florida #Snow

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Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 22, 2025 11:26 am

According to John Holdren, Obama’s science advisor, winter snow and cold weather in the sub tropics is the result of global warming, so everything is happening just as predicted.

January 22, 2025 2:13 pm

I wonder what the headlines would read if this had happened during “The Ice Age Cometh” scare?

For those in the South not used to such weather, stay warm and safe.
If you drive, slow down, don’t make sudden accelerations or braking or lane changing.
No matter how your vehicle normally responds, that response depends on the traction the tires give “when the rubber meets the road”. Your tires may not actually meet the road when driving on snow or ice.
Your tires need extra time to get any grip. The more “sudden” the move you make, the more likely your tires will lose their grip.
A couple of tips from someone who live in the North.

Edward Katz
January 22, 2025 2:35 pm

How can this be happening when the climate gurus or alarmists have kept assuring us that as the planet experiences runaway warming due to excessive fossil fuel consumption, this type of weather would virtually disappear except in most remote Arctic and Antarctic regions? Isn’t there a parallel here between tornadoes and hurricanes which the same experts tell us will become more frequent and intense due to human activities? . Have they overlooked something or once again proved that they don’t know what they’re talking about?