Hydrogen facility will definitely open in Bradford

From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

By Paul Homewood

Funding to build the UK’s largest hydrogen production facility in Bradford has been confirmed by Chancellor Rachel Reeves.

Bradford Low Carbon Hydrogen, a redevelopment of a former gas storage site, is the largest of 11 green hydrogen projects set to receive a share of £2bn from the government.

The Bradford project, which already has planning permission, is expected to create up to 125 new jobs for the city.

It will have the capacity to produce 12.5 tonnes of hydrogen each day, removing around 800 diesel buses from West Yorkshire’s roads on a daily basis.

The project is being delivered by joint venture partners N-Gen and Hygen, with support from Bradford Council.

Hydrogen production will secure the future of Bradford’s Birkshall site which has a rich heritage stretching back almost 100 years, according to the Local Democracy Reporting Service.

It was previously home to three large gas holders, with the site producing and storing gas for use by the city’s homes and businesses.

Hydrogen does not emit carbon when burned, meaning it can support the decarbonisation of several sectors, including heavy transport such as HGVs and buses.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvzkkeg2g1o

So for a hundred million or two, we will get enough hydrogen to power 800 diesel buses!

Bargain!

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antigtiff
November 8, 2024 10:16 am

It is Catastrophic Apocalyptic Climate Change…….. and it can’t be stopped …..we are all doomed

November 8, 2024 12:46 pm

Hmm energy storage the size of a medium sized tactical nuke in the most Islamic town in the UK?
What could possibly go wrong?

November 8, 2024 10:52 pm
  1. H2 is the most energetic chemical fuel – per kilogram. H2 is lighter than CH4 by 8X per molecule, so a kilogram of H2 requires far more energy and higher H2 pressures to pump through much larger pipelines, lined to prevent saturation and embrittlement by H2. to move the same amount of energy. Any flaw in the lining means a rupture and explosion.
  2. The energy value chain from start to finish is not specified in any of the advertising brochures for this company, but it is well understood that less than 10% of the input energy ends up in the H2 product. This means one must have10X as much energy to ‘burn’ in order to power a H2 bus system, or H2 heat a home.
  3. The source of the electricity for H2 electrolysis is not specified. From wherever the electricity comes, 90% of its energy is lost in converting it to H2. It would be better to use the electricity to boil water and run a “Stanley Steamer”.
  4. H2 electrolysis is now known to be finicky. China used intermittent wind energy to produce electricity for electrolysis. It failed due to the intermittency. Back to the drawing board.
  5. H2 escapes easily. Fugitive H2 reacts to produce greenhouse gases with a GWP (global warming potential, the usual metric) that is at least 30 X that of CO2, for a constant emission commensurate with the Net Zero 2050 pathway.
  6. Number 5. means that the desire to ‘decarbonize’ fails in spades. Obviously, the plan has not been thought through, and it does not add up. None of that prevents our ignorant, emotional politicians from wasting our seed money and collapsing civilization.

The H2 economy has been a dream for 50 years and is no closer now than when it was first conceived. It is another of those alluring concepts, similar to ‘solar energy’ which seem ineluctable until the devil in the details kills the dream and brings reality.
The value chain from beginning to end HAS TO ADD UP.

AND, remember that the underlying assumption – that CO2 is ‘boiling the planet’ has no basis in science. It is a projection from models which represent 2 of 5 climate components, and those inadequately .

November 9, 2024 12:28 am

I just did a back of fag packet calculation.

assuming bus fuel tank contains 150ltrs at £1.25 and refill every couple of days – that is a cost of 150×1.25×800=£150,000.

costs of project given as one to two hundred million. Let’s say £150,000,000.

so that means payback on fuel usage is 1,000 days – three years (+/-)

so if the council is getting this money externally (tax payer) it doesn’t seem completely out of order to me…..

Mike71
November 9, 2024 8:33 am

I hear everybody complain, but this in combination with the old manner they produce hydrogen, there have been ignored technological breakthroughs, where one we do not use Methane, solar or wind to produce it but nuclear energy, this drives the prices down significantly, also they have developed materials which extract no less than 5 times more Hydrogen with the same input of energy. But I wonder why people ignore these facts. They always point at the older ways to produce hydrogen.

We no see that with real money invested in development and research that it becomes easier and cheaper to produce and yet we ignore it.. nuclear energy is about 15 times cheaper than wind or solar power. If you then also can produce five times more than in the past, this means an even bigger reduction in cost.

It is also interesting to see exactly the same warnings pass as passed when we started an infrastructure to have cars drive in natural gas… Even that didn’t gave the spontaneous self combustion and spontaneous explosions which have become so common with EVs