Greens Declare War on Growing Your Own Greens

From THE DAILY SCEPTIC

by Chris Morrison

Grow your own fruit and veg – and destroy the planet. Allotment produce, much prized by proud food-growing citizens the world over, has six times the ‘carbon’ footprint of conventional agriculture, according to a recent paper published by Nature. “Steps must be taken to ensure that urban agriculture supports, and does not undermine, urban decarbonisation efforts,” demand the authors. What have these people been smoking? Surely not some of the puff circulating at the recent Psychedelic Climate Week in New York. Highlights included a discussion on funding ketamine-assisted therapy and a panel on ‘Balancing Investing and Impact with Climate and Psychedelic Capital’.

The lead authors of the Nature paper are academics working out of the School for Environment and Sustainability at the University of Michigan. They suggest using urban farms as sites for “education, leisure and community building”. Perhaps the locals could sit cross-legged and listen to early Pink Floyd music. Maybe clap the setting sun to some Atom Heart Mother. Excuse your correspondent if he cannot take this paper seriously. It is a classic example of greens picking on a human activity – almost any will do – and complaining that it causes the devil-gas carbon dioxide to be released. At the recent New York climate happening, according to the Guardian, revellers were told that using hallucinogens can spark “consciousness shifts” to inspire climate-friendly behaviour. What climate friendly behaviour, one might ask, given that almost anything humans do to improve their lot of Earth is demonised by an increasingly weird millenarian green cult.

The authors of the Nature paper seem to have a particular down on home composting. Poorly-managed composting is said to exacerbate the release of greenhouse gases (GHGs). “The carbon footprint of compost grows tenfold when methane-generated anaerobic conditions persist in compost piles,” it says. This is particularly common during small-scale composting, apparently. With a seeming complete ignorance of how small allotments farming functions, the authors suggest that “cities can offset this risk by centralising compost operations for professional management”.

Wherever these cultists look, there are gases being released that are contributing to their invented existential climate crisis. The high application rates of compost in urban agriculture can also lead to nitrous oxide, we’re told. Needless to say, “strategic management of application scheduling and fertiliser combinations may be required to minimise emissions”.

For allotment holders, few pleasures in life compare with a break from arduous work and a hot cup of tea in the shed. Surrounded by the tools of the trade, it is the labourer’s equivalent of passing around a few liveners at National Climate Week, with the added attraction that it doesn’t turn you into a self-important dope. But such pleasure will come to an end if the climate cops have their way. Infrastructure, we’re told, is the largest driver of carbon emissions at what are termed “low-tech” urban agricultural sites. As well as sheds, this includes beds (for vegetables, not a crash pad for ketamine heads) and compost facilities. A raised bed built and used for five years will have approximately four times the environmental impact as one used for 20. Other infrastructure supplies are said to include fertiliser, gasoline and weed block textile.

Plants need water, but only the right sort of water can help save the planet. In their site samples, the researchers found that most allotment-holders use potable municipal water sources or groundwater wells. Big no, no, of course, since such irrigation emits GHGs from pumping, water treatment and distribution. “Cities should support low-carbon (and drought-conscious) irrigation for urban agriculture via subsidies for rainwater catchment infrastructure, or through established guidelines for greywater use,” it is suggested. Presumably, the subsidies will come from the magic bread tree and the infrastructure will be of the special type that does not produce GHGs.

This crackpot climate paper is just the latest sign that the green movement is riven with disagreements as its climate crisis grift starts to fall apart in the face of reality. There are no realistic back-ups for intermittent wind and solar, while carbon capture is a colossal and potentially dangerous waste of money. Without hydrocarbon use, humankind is doomed. Billions will die and society will be returned to the dark ages. Hydrocarbons are ubiquitous in modern society, and so almost everything that humans do to survive and thrive on a dangerous planet can be demonised. Eventually, you end up with Sir David Attenborough making the appalling observation that it was “barmy” for the United Nations to send bags of flour to famine-stricken Ethiopia. Or to read earlier this year the tweet from the United Nations contributing author and UCL professor Bill McGuire that the only “realistic way” to avoid catastrophic climate breakdown was to cull the human population with a high fatality pandemic.

Many green extremists seem to take the view that anything humans do, including growing their own veg, is causing existential harm to the planet. What they really hate, some may conclude, are humans themselves. Treble bongs all round.

Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor.

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October 15, 2024 6:08 am
atticman
Reply to  kommando828
October 15, 2024 9:45 am

They’ll be telling us that the Earth is flat next…

Doud D
October 15, 2024 6:12 am

Your last line says it all ….”If only everyone who disagrees with us were gone”

Tom Halla
October 15, 2024 6:25 am

A consistent rule for The Green Blob is that if it benefits people, they are opposed to it.

Reply to  Tom Halla
October 15, 2024 1:43 pm

Indeed, and if it’s the most idiotic, useless and harmful, they promote it.

damp
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 15, 2024 5:17 pm

As the lady said in Mars Attacks, “Maybe they no liking the human being.”

scadsobees
October 15, 2024 6:33 am

I wonder if these “researchers” have ever seen or heard of a “swamp”? Those things are HORRIBLE for the environment, apparently.

More desperate attempts for relevance and government funding.

In the meantime, I think I’m going to start burning tires to delay the effects of frost.

Reply to  scadsobees
October 15, 2024 12:06 pm

Yet they would probably March to save “wetlands.”

Think of the vast quantities of blind spots and cognitive dissonance required to be an “environmentalist.”

Reply to  AGW is Not Science
October 15, 2024 1:10 pm

In Wokeachusetts, wetlands are worshiped by enviros. Anyone doing anything had better not drop a teaspoon full of dirt into a wetland.

Robertvd
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 16, 2024 3:03 am

Except if you want to put some windmills and solar farms. Than you can drain it bone dry.

Reply to  Robertvd
October 16, 2024 3:38 am

An 18 acre solar “farm” was built next to my ‘hood in 2012. They broke a number of state enviro laws. I talked to the state officials about this- they ignored me.

Stephen Wilde
October 15, 2024 6:34 am

I think we need to fire 99% of so called ‘academics’.

heme212
October 15, 2024 6:39 am

so we need to arrest julia at the community garden?

Jim Masterson
Reply to  heme212
October 15, 2024 4:44 pm

Probably arrest Michelle Obama too. Wasn’t she promoting food growing gardens?

Robertvd
Reply to  Jim Masterson
October 16, 2024 3:11 am

First Lady Michelle Obama Plants the White House Kitchen Garden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8e6bXYL24U

You just wonder what the ‘carbon’ footprint of the White House’s lawn is?

Jeffrey Saunders
October 15, 2024 6:40 am

I swear there is something/someone
pushing these idiots to publish and say these asinine ideas. Why, is it truly about controlling the human population?

Dave O.
October 15, 2024 6:54 am

I’m very environmentally friendly. I burn everything.

barryjo
Reply to  Dave O.
October 15, 2024 11:32 am

The great carbon cycle.

SteveE
October 15, 2024 7:08 am

This paper took 13 authors from at least 6 different schools spread across US and Europe.
Both Phd’s and Phd candidates.

It doesn’t appear that one of them considered the absolutely negligible contribution a few thousand acres of urban agriculture might make to GHG. How do you think an allotment compares to the 500 megatons annual increase in CO2 from China?

Reply to  SteveE
October 15, 2024 11:13 am

Urban agriculture? Hahahaha!

News Flash to urbanites: all your food comes from non-urban (i.e. rural) lands. So does all your clothing, shelter, water, energy, and everything else you require for your basic survival needs. And it has been ever thus.

The only things cities produce are madness and violence, neither of which are necessary or even desirable.

If rural bumpkins finally have their fill of you urban sophist-icates and decide to boycott the cities, you won’t last two hours. Within a week you’ll descend into anarchy and cannibalism. Better stock up on hot sauce while you can.

October 15, 2024 7:12 am

Funny how the greens do promote producing your own electricity

Robertvd
Reply to  Hans Erren
October 16, 2024 3:26 am

That too is changing .

Dr. Bob
October 15, 2024 7:12 am

But, But, But, Hydrocarbons are free. They come from the air itself. We just have to remove CO2 from the air and we have Free Carbon to make hydrocarbon fuels. And the hydrogen needed to reduce CO2 from its awful low energy state where it does so much damage is also Free! It comes from Excess wind and solar power that otherwise would be wasted, so why not use it to make free fuel from CO2. Wow, we just saved the world!
We can ignore the damage done by wind and solar, the cost, and the total inefficiency of the whole process which is about 30% energy efficient or less. We are saving the planet, so nothing else matters.

October 15, 2024 7:18 am

From the abstract of the paper,
“Results reveal that the carbon footprint of food from UA is six times greater than conventional agriculture (420 gCO2e versus 70 gCO2e per serving).”

Yikes. If you are looking at the portions on your plate and the “gCO2e per serving” comes to mind as a concern, you are one sick puppy. 

Curious George
Reply to  David Dibbell
October 15, 2024 7:51 am

Look at your plate, and remember that everything there was CO2 not long ago (except for salt and water).

Reply to  David Dibbell
October 15, 2024 11:28 am

Is there anything on your plate that is actually “Carbon Free”?
(The salt, NaCl, I guess. But you won’t live long on just that!)

larryPTL
October 15, 2024 7:32 am

CO2 only blocks certain frequency bands in the Infra-red (IR) spectrum. At 400PPM they will block all the IR they can. We are currently at 412PPM and rising, almost exclusively due to tectonic events (landslides, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions). No further blocking of IR is occurring, no additional warming is happening.

Reply to  larryPTL
October 15, 2024 8:32 am

“At 400PPM they will block all the IR they can.”

. . . except in those IR frequency bands overlapped by atmospheric water vapor absorption, which dominates LWIR “greenhouse” gases absorption due to its much higher atmospheric concentration levels and its very broad range of LWIR absorption.

Curious George
October 15, 2024 7:46 am

School for Environment and Sustainability. The name says it all 🙂

Reply to  Curious George
October 15, 2024 12:44 pm

Brought to you by the idiots who think burning biomass is “sustainable,” while ignoring one very inconvenient truth…

The biomass burns a lot faster than it grows.

Reply to  AGW is Not Science
October 15, 2024 1:13 pm

irrelevant

Paul Seward
October 15, 2024 7:54 am

I wonder what the CO2 offset from local gardening to diesel powered farming and transportation of the vegetables across the county might be. Asking for a friend.

rckkrgrd
Reply to  Paul Seward
October 15, 2024 8:58 am

I do my part. I have an electric tiller, electric chipper, cordless electric lawn mower, and chainsaw plus other non-fossil fuel tools.
Actually, I am just too old to be yanking on starter cords but I will wear my green hat proudly.

Reply to  rckkrgrd
October 15, 2024 10:28 am

Are you wearing your green hat proudly, or as camouflage?

Paul Seward
Reply to  rckkrgrd
October 15, 2024 10:44 am

Where does that electricity come from?

Reply to  Paul Seward
October 15, 2024 3:47 pm

Not to mention the metals, the plastics, the batteries…

rckkrgrd
Reply to  Paul Seward
October 16, 2024 6:49 am

Same place as mandated EVs will get theirs.. They just won’t have the starter cord excuse.

barryjo
Reply to  rckkrgrd
October 15, 2024 11:36 am

Renegade!!!

Reply to  rckkrgrd
October 15, 2024 1:15 pm

I broke a finger while trying to start a stubborn chain saw about 35 years ago. Now it’s arthritic and always hurts. I like my electric saw for lightweight back yard work.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 15, 2024 3:41 pm

Stihl now has a flywheel type deal that a 3 year old could start.

(I am slowly getting acclimated to it … I am a slow learner)

Reply to  DonM
October 15, 2024 4:33 pm

A flywheel? Well, heck- that can produce energy- so you won’t need gas! 🙂

strativarius
October 15, 2024 7:59 am

They might just as well go the whole hog and ban human respiration.

Utter loonies.

Reply to  strativarius
October 15, 2024 9:36 am

It’s the next step. Since Humans are not natural, eliminating them from the ecosystem is a good idea.

This is why war is so popular and why progressive leaders around the world have been killing off each other for centuries. It’s the only way to save the earth.

October 15, 2024 8:11 am

Harvest your potatoes with a gardening fork and you will accidentally spear a few, they will not store so you cook them that evening. King Edwards fresh from the ground taste amazing especially as a plate of egg and chips. Sod the CO2, tastes counts,

Reply to  kommando828
October 15, 2024 8:18 am

King Edwards not a great potato.
Vanessa
Pink Fir apple
Jersey Royal
Charlotte
Majestic.

…go one, live a little

atticman
Reply to  Leo Smith
October 15, 2024 9:49 am

The others have their virtues but a good old King Edward is the best all-rounder, though a friend who grows most of his own food on a smallholding says they’re difficult to cultivate, being more disease-prone than many other varieties.

StephenP
Reply to  atticman
October 15, 2024 10:14 am

I’ve tried a whole range of potato varieties on my allotment but have ended up growing Charlotte. Ratte is one of the best salad potatoes, it’s less knobbly than Pink Fir Apple.

StephenP
Reply to  StephenP
October 15, 2024 10:21 am

Try the No Dig method of growing vegetables, by not working over the soil the organic matter undergoes much less oxidation and thus releases less CO2.
That should please the greenies.
Charles Dowding has a wide range of good YouTube videos on No Dig

JamesB_684
Reply to  StephenP
October 15, 2024 10:59 am

Why bother? CO2 is a wholly beneficial trace gas on which all life depends. Earth needs more CO2, not less.

StephenP
Reply to  JamesB_684
October 15, 2024 4:25 pm

No need to be sarcastic. Forget the CO2 aspect, that was just to answer the original paper’s objection to urban vegetable growing. The No Dig method saves a lot of work digging and weeding.

October 15, 2024 8:15 am

Not sure if this cartoon is from here originally, but it bears reposting

better
Reply to  Leo Smith
October 15, 2024 11:38 am

But there’s still a person alive in the bottom frame.
(An eraser would make it a picture of the Green Utopia.)

Reply to  Leo Smith
October 15, 2024 1:20 pm

Keeping that one- and passing it to all the climate whack jobs in Wokeachusetts.

Scarecrow Repair
October 15, 2024 8:23 am

I hope they are also slagging on organic farming, well-known for using more resources to produce less food.

strativarius
Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
October 15, 2024 9:20 am

Sri Lanka…

October 15, 2024 8:25 am

From the above article’s last paragraph:
“Many green extremists seem to take the view that anything humans do, including growing their own veg, is causing existential harm to the planet.”

The first order of business, therefore, for those “green extremists” is to simply stop breathing, for the human body expels CO2 at a concentration range of 35,000 to 50,000 ppm (depending on activity and individual metabolism) versus the ~420 ppm that it takes in.

ROTFL!

October 15, 2024 8:29 am

I don’t argue with their calculations, though I am sure there are some loose threads.

Nothing done on a domestic scale will ever be as efficient as a similar thing done on an industrial scale. Growing food is just the start. The marginal energy input to cook a portion in a canteen is tiny compared with a home-cooked meal. At home you have to heat an entire element, an entire oven, and an entire pot, just to bake one loaf of bread.

Similar for laundry. It is far more efficient on an industrial scale.

Then there is home life itself, in a house. Made of materials. With its own heating.

The way forward is clear. Microwaved ready-meals for dinner in the canteen, then off to the communal recreation area, before bed in the dormitory. And in the morning, a shower in the shower block.

I lived like that once, in a work camp in the northern Canada. Oddly everyone there was focussed on making a ton of money so they wouldn’t have to live like that any longer than necessary.

So the Nature authors may be correct as far as they go. But if they think they’re pointing the way to a future in which anyone would want to live, they could not be more wrong.

Dave Fair
Reply to  quelgeek
October 15, 2024 11:59 am

You have described my living conditions after being drafted into the U.S. Army. My living conditions on a firebase in rural Vietnam for a year, however, left alot to be desired and the combat, while livening things, was very dangerous. But my combat wounds prepaid my excellent VA healthcare.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 15, 2024 12:04 pm

Thank you for your service.

Reply to  quelgeek
October 15, 2024 1:22 pm

“At home you have to heat an entire element, an entire oven, and an entire pot, just to bake one loaf of bread.” In the summer you’ll have to heat the entire house or much of it.

rtj1211
October 15, 2024 8:33 am

Thick idiots who have to be in control, that’s what these green lunatics are.

Put their names up in lights, put their addresses on the internet and let those that disagree with them march to their properties and express profound disagreement in whatever way they see fit.

Logical reason won’t work with these nutcases.

So it’ll have to be a different form of negotiations.

Here’s my audit of my allotment activities:

  1. Zero use of fertiliser: zero.
  2. 100% recycling of green waste into compost, bar brambles (which don’t decompose in compost piles, so I take them home to send to the council’s centralised composting facilities).
  3. Minimal watering, except during germination and droughts. Minimal. If you saw the size of roots on my leek plants I’m harvesting right now, you’d believe me. The less you water, the longer the roots grow. Basic laws of plant growth….
  4. Recycling of tree surgeon waste through putting down wood chips on paths. If the nutters try to say that this action doesn’t increase biodiversity in my allotment soil, they merely show the world their profound ignorance.
  5. Zero digging of growing beds. Zero. The weeds get hoed off and the beds raked level. Nothing else gets done apart from applying a top layer of compost.
  6. Recycling of pollarded tree material into ‘Huegel beds’, namely burying the branches in pits dug for the purpose, along with horse manure/straw supplied by the next door stables. Returning above ground carbon into below-ground carbon, being released into the soil over the next 5-20 years, depending on the branch sizes. A natural way to fertilise the soil, recycling on-site materials.
  7. Planting of three new fruit trees, thereby increasing below-soil carbon (via rooting systems).
  8. Use of green manures (aka mustard) to cover growing beds as much as possible over winter, with the green manure crops dying when winter frosts occur.
  9. Zero use of raised beds. Zero.
  10. Use of open-pollinated seed strains, all sourced from ethical, reputable, organic sources. Or saved myself.

This whole exercise is about ‘we are going to control absolutely everything on earth and if you try and do anything we don’t let you do, then you are going to prison’.

These green nutters have gone berserk.

rovingbroker
October 15, 2024 8:34 am

Since the act of growing food, like most human endeavors, can be energy intensive or not, labor intensive or not, carbon intensive or not, “chemical” intensive or not, and land intensive or not — one can analyze the practicality and wisdom of any method used to feed the planet. In the US in general, we have found that devoting great swaths of fertile land, millions of dollars of machinery, genetically altered seed, fertilizer from chemical plants and many other technological helpers is for most people the best method. For others it is a few square feet in the back yard that you tend in the evening after work.

A few square yards in the back yard is by most measures not the best solution to feeding the planet or the citizens of Chicago but it is relaxing and gives us something to write about and talk about as well as some lovely tomatoes to share with our friends at lunch.

rckkrgrd
Reply to  rovingbroker
October 15, 2024 9:11 am

Large commercial operations may be the most efficient production method, but it ends there. It requires a huge support network for input and output, considerably less efficient than my few hours in a garden and the short walk to the kitchen with my rewards. And then there is the flavor advantage that is never reproduced in supermarket produce.

October 15, 2024 8:46 am

Ha ha ha readers on here probably double the entire number of people reading this stupid sh!t.

JC
October 15, 2024 9:12 am

This is a major liberal shift away from urban farming and locally sourced food. As a crunchy-con, I was part of the Philadelhia urban farming movement organically growing 10,000-15,000lbs of produce on one acree of leased garden plots. I was the only Christian conservative in this movement and one of the more successful farmers…. farming after work with my wife and two infants.. I grew for home use and farmers market 2004-2010. The more radical socialist types were completely offended by what I was doing….evil capitalism. Even though my total capital investment was less than $4,000 in 5 years, (most of my equipment was trash picked or bought cheap and repaired). What they hated most was to see a husband and a wife with 2 infants in toe working so hard to grow food for profit. Both my wife and I have been expert gardners coming from multiple generations of expert gardners. So we are very successful when many others struggled with their weedy tiny plots.

Personaly, I am not concerned about carbon or hyodrocabon fuels. Yet from a carbon perspective locally grown food means less transportaton and open air farmers markets means less energy spent. It also means a huge percentage reduction is waste compared to the supermarket system.
Not having to purchase much of anything (self sustaining seed propagation, free compost, almost minimal machinery and hardware) also is low energy impact.

In the past 6-10 years the radical fringe has become mainstream and thave become decidedly anti-human. These folks want everything centralized and controlled. They want to thwart any indepentnet initiative that is out of their programmatic box.

The other issue is the threat of a growing subsisteance home gardening and farming movement means reduced tax revenes. The threat is is local people developing local economies that cannot be controlled or easily taxed…….not just for food but also energy, (off grid), 2nd hand clothing, hardward, house wares, and other goods and services.

The radical greens want us to live completely formatted and programatized lives…. to stay home and live on our screens and do our salary payroll jobs and nothing more, including getting married and raising families.

The oppostion from the urban liberal socialists. .mostly in the form of slander and rumor, forced us to look for land we could buy and live on. So we moved out of Philadelphia 13 years ago and have been growing 40% of what we eat on our own land. We left Philly at exactly the right time.

Growing our own food is a habitual seasonal strucutre built into our lives. We don’t even think about it. It just happens. It is what we do. We save our seed, propogate our own stable varieties of produce we love and can’t buy anywhere. We also raise all berries, apples, peaches, grapes, pears. I make wine and hard cider. I also grow cereral grains for home use and chickens and brewing. We grow 8 different kinds of dried beans, peanuts, sunflower seeds, rice etc…. and a ton of great potatoes, culinary pumpkins, and your typical garden staples including hazelnuts. Our chickesn provide eggs and fertilizer. Our costs are very low and we buy almost no pesticides and fertilizers. Our gardens are not troubled with pests other than deer which we use an almost invisible 12 high electric fence to keep them out.

Every year we win 10-12 first place ribbons for our produce in a local fair and our garden products: Jams, jellies, Sauerkraut, pickles, Wine, Hard cider, beer also win ribbons and canned beans, beets, string beans asparagus also win ribbons and fiber crafts My wife is a spinner/weaver and grows dye plants and dyes her own yarn..

JC
Reply to  JC
October 15, 2024 9:22 am

We also had opposition from the libertarian knee jerk conservatives because we gave the appearance of being liberal….nothing could be further from the truth. We were local entrepeners who had a side business that was very successful….the busienss was just too unconventional for most Republicans who were also tied to tje affluneces of their payroll jobs, 401K’s, Roth IRA’s and their pristine McMansionville homes to step outside of the programmatic format of economic dependence.. So the shappy little substistance farm family offended both the left and the right and even today….. our world is shabby people doing shabby stuff to for fun and to make ends meet. In Berks county we ae surrounded by hard working susbstiance and small farming families.

As affluence has emerged in our lives, we have ignored it, not trusting in it and continued the same lifestyle because we found spending money to not be all that fulfilling or fun.

Reply to  JC
October 15, 2024 10:44 am

I used to live in Chester County (Downingtown), one county south of you. Beautiful area.

JC
Reply to  Phil R
October 16, 2024 6:59 am

We stumbled into the area know very little about the German thing in Berks County. Both my wife and I are orginally from the South and the West Coast.

There is a sub-payroll/supermarket/chain store-cash/non-online level economy here in Berks County. Signifcant presense of family gardens and farming… meat and fruit production as well as tons of used stuff of all kinds being bought and sold. Many people here live on very little income compared to Urbanites who pay through the nose for everything with dollars that they have to earn nearly 2 to spend 1 (due to state, local, IRA and FICA and all the other payroll gouges).

If you earn 3-5 grand in inkind products (your own farming) and 5-6 grand selling your products, it’s worth as much as 22 grand is salary. And if you are paying nearly nothing for clothing, house hold items, hardware and you working a modestly paid full time job…. you can own a home with an acrea of land an make it. But it’s looks shabby by gentrified Urban/suburban standards. Nothing wrong with working hard doing your own thing. Life ceases to be about cruises, European travel, sending the kids to top dollar schools, Shopping sprees on line, fine dining, expensive RV’s and Motorcycles and hobby cars…. it becomes about marriages, children, family, community, joint ventures, neighbors and Churches in the local community.

There are pockets of America that isn’t totally bought up with the globalized urban/surban affluence consumeristic mind set….where life still has some semblance of when Amercia was truly strong from the inside out.