If carbon capture and storage (CCS) was fracking for gas, it would have been banned years ago. Both processes can cause earth tremors – equivalent to a man falling off a chair in the case of fracking, but potentially much greater with carbon capture. This is because it involves millions of tonnes of pressurised carbon dioxide being pumped into rock cavities possibly compromised by prior drilling holes. Waste water from pressurised oil and gas projects has been known to escape from degraded drill plugs causing geysers 100-foot high. Such a catastrophe on land with millions of tonnes of CO2 waiting to escape is not a good prospect. On August 21st, 1986 the sudden high pressure release of magmatic CO2 from the bed of Lake Nyos in Cameroon led to heavier-than-air CO2 suffocating all living beings in the surrounding villages including 1,746 people.
CCS divides a green movement riven with disagreements as its climate crisis grift starts to fall apart in the face of reality. Capturing CO2 and burying it in the ground has been described by one influential green think tank as a “colossal waste of money”. Wasting taxpayers’ money is not something most greens lose sleep over, but they dislike CCS because it allows a role, albeit limited, for future hydrocarbon use. As we recently reported in the Daily Sceptic, the penny has finally dropped in the U.K. that there is no backup to a 2030 renewable energy grid except gas, so the Mad Miliband has authorised a £22 billion CCS black hole. It is a colossal waste of money, but it provides a fig leaf to cover the continued use of hydrocarbons.
If governments in the United States and Europe are going to pump many billions of tonnes of pressurised gas into the substrata beneath our feet heavily pockmarked with thousands of filled drill holes, it might be a good idea to look into the wisdom and safety of this course of action. Such a task cannot be left to mainstream media, although they were quick to run stories of earthquakes and tap water catching fire in the cause of demonising gas fracking (yes really, check it out).
First some geology. Natural gas is found next to oil fields near the surface but it also accumulates at much deeper levels. It is held in place by a layer of sedimentary rock such as limestone or sandstone. In the U.S., the Permian basin runs across west Texas and south western New Mexico and its rich deposits have been drilled for over a hundred years. The area is riddled with hundreds of thousands of drill holes. Location records and safety checks on some of these holes are now non-existent.
In 2016, a group of Penn State researchers observed that when CO2 is stored underground in a process known as geological sequestration “it can find multiple escape pathways due to chemical reactions between CO2, water, rocks and cement from abandoned wells”. There are concerns that CO2 could leak into groundwater drinking aquifers or dissolve into saltwater deposits. As a result, the high acidity saltwater-CO2 can dissolve certain types of rocks as well as cement casing on abandoned wells. There are fears that a plume of CO2-saturated brine could break free to the surface, with presumably millions of tonnes of pressurised gas looking for a chance to follow.
Engineering professor Mary Kang of McGill University claims she has seen “countless instances” of plugged oil wells failing to hold. Cement is no match for earthquakes, heat and time, notes Eric Van Oort, an engineering professor at the University of Texas-Austin. “You have tectonic stresses, high temperatures – things are changing and shifting in the subsurface,” he said. He was of the view that plugged holes may start leaking in the future.
Current plans in the UK are to bury the CO2 under offshore waters. Hence some of the staggering costs involved. But nowhere is safe from the forces of nature and the British Geological Survey recently said that CCS needed to be “vigorously monitored” to provide an assurance of long-term storage integrity. That would be vigorously monitored for the thousands of years it is planned to keep the CO2 underground. Good luck with that one. Regulatory frameworks governing geological CO2 storage are being developed worldwide with issues of leakage and long-term stewardship being addressed. Again, good luck with asking future generations thousands of years hence to keep coughing up £22 billion (note to reader: feel free to invent your own very large figure at this point) to ensure vast quantities of highly pressurised gas are safely stored beneath the surface.
DeSmog was recently topped up with £400,000 from the Left-wing money tree Rowntree Foundation to continue promoting fracking scare stories and its notorious ‘blacklist’ of so-called climate deniers. On October 4th, it reported that a blowout in the Permian basin had created a 100-foot tower of oily water. Drilling and fracking uses millions of gallons of water a day in the area, noted DeSmog. “It’s a ripper,” said Hawk Dunlap, a libertarian candidate for the Railroad Commission. “It could be coming from anywhere and it’s not going to be an easy fix,” he said. DeSmog reports that Dunlap said the region where the geyser erupted has been plagued by earthquakes amid record wastewater production.
DeSmog is all in on the invented climate crisis and a fervent supporter of the political Net Zero fantasy. It obviously hates all hydrocarbon use and has reported on the problems of carbon capture. For its part, mainstream media just sticks with demonising fracking. Donkey nodding politicians in many jurisdictions accept the need for huge quantities of money to be poured down the CCS hole but are obviously uninformed about the risks involved.
Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor.
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What’s the projected effect of CCS on global temperature assuming it works? 0.000000000001 C?
Reminiscent of Aesop’s fable about Belling the Cat. At least the mice had a problem.
Look one the Bright Side. With all the CO2 in storage all that’s needed is 2-H2O and a magic wand and you can have all the Free Gas you want.😇😆
I’m still waiting for the Ozone Hole to disappear after we saved the planet from Freon pollution with the Montreal Accord.
I crunched the numbers for the UK scheme at Cliscep.
The lates news is that global temperatures have been over exaggerated by 48% due to errors in thermometers.
It should cause the temperature to increase since it needs carbon as fuel to compress the CO2. I’m sure the greenies will reply it’s being done by wind power, but even that requires the CO2 to be compressed which generates a lot of heat as a byproduct. Windmills produce lots of waste heat.
When the politicos push absurdities like a quick conversation to EVs and the wonders of “free” power from wind, sun and tides, all without disrupting our lives no less, then the counter absurdities will fly. No engineer I have spoken with believes in either absurdity, and will wait for plausible technological breakthroughs instead..
Quick conversion?
AKA Outright elimination of ICVs and Public Petrol sales. Then the only vehicles on the road.will be EVs…Quick Conversion!
Does the ban of gas and Diesel apply to firetrucks, ambulances, police cars, heavy tow tucks, snowplows, emergency power generators, etc.?
You’ll notice I stated “Public Petrol Sales”
Noted. A black market run by the mob will spring into action to supply petrol for anyone at a premium price.
Natural Gas Storage projects are common and so are acid gas injection projects. The depleted reservoirs DON’T LEAK as a result of earthquakes or they would not have been full of natural gas for the past tens of millions of years. Failed cement jobs are about as common as bears trained to ride a bike…everyone believes they exist, nobody can find one for their kid’s birthday party…
“The depleted reservoirs DON’T LEAK as a result of earthquakes or they would not have been full of natural gas for the past tens of millions of years.”
But now they’re full of drill holes. And you think they’re ALL properly capped?
The cement is better than the dirt and shale drilled through, 99 times out of 100 according to a 97% consensus amongst my drilling buddies…And that 1 in 100 you fix at whatever expense or risk losing your drilling licences. Plus we are talking about post completion Earthquake effects, not the success rate of cement jobs for new production.
So, if you’re right- and only 1% fail- and under them is a vast amount of CO2 under high pressure- you see no possible problem?
They don’t fail as in blowing out…they fail a test, then recementing is done, in rare cases the entire well is cemented off…no leakage possible then. There was a huge amount of high pressure methane before, you weren’t bothered by that very much….
So, you think it’s perfectly safe way to dispose of CO2. I presume you also think disposing of CO2 is the right way to go to prevent climate change? That we should spend hundreds of trillions to do it- to save the Earth? Would you like to own a home on top of a landscape pumped full of CO2?
The power consumed pumping/boosting 10^6 ‘s of m^3 of flue gases from p0wer plant source to capture and storage would require the building of anther power plant to provide the pumping power required ; this process would go on ad infinitum. Power consumption boosting huge volumes of gases via large ducting over many kilometers is and would be enormous.
The numbers work out to about 30% additional energy required to regenerate amine and compress the CO2, and about a doubling of equipment costs. For the most part, the money should just be spent on nuclear power and let the old plants age out. One can justify installing PV panels to supply enough electricity for everyone’s air conditioners on hot sunny afternoons. Past that the cost of storage becomes too high…
So, you propose scrubbing huge volumes of flue gas to remove 8% or so CO2, then stripping it out before compressing the stripped CO2 and pumping/boosting it through miles of ducting to sealed cavernous subsea storage. The lunacy of this is beyond belief – it is far better to allow the CO2 to green the planet and boost plant growth. 380/400 ppm Co2 in air could be doubled to 800ppm with no effect on so called global warming.
We’ve got plenty of carbon capture and storage plants already, we just need more. They’re called greenhouses…
We should investigate if the release in the daytime of CO2 into fields of growing corn and soy beans and into orchards and vineyards enhances
the yields of corn, soy beans, apples and grapes.
For corn and soy bean fields, we could release the CO2 up wind. For orchards and vineyards we can release the CO2 through a system of
pipes as is done for drip irrigation.
We should apply to the USDA for grants for these experiments. For our
field work, we will some pickup trucks like brand new deluxe Ford F150s.
So what do we do with all this “saved” CO2? Anything other than make sure it doesn’t escape? Just another unintended consequence waiting to happen.
We really do not have to worry about CO2 because most of it is “captured” by the oceans and a small amount is “captured” by fresh water on land.
At the MLO in Hawaii the concentration of CO2 is 426 ppmv. This only 0.837 g per cubic meter of air. We know the oceans are major sink for CO2 as evidenced by the enormous amount of plants and animals therein. Some of the CO2 remains as free molecules. A liter of ice cold water such as that in the polar regions can contain about 3.55 g of CO2. This type of water is called sparkling water.
Another question is, assuming this goes on, what do we do when we run out of storage sites?
Scientists say sun’s influence penetrates into deep Earth
For years, scientists believed that changes in the Earth’s interior, such as volcanic eruptions and tectonic plate collisions, primarily affected the surface environment. Events such as the mass extinction around 66 million years ago and the transitions between icehouse and greenhouse climates were thought to be driven mainly by these deep Earth processes. However, a new study published in Nature Communications has revealed a surprising new aspect: solar radiation can also affect the Earth’s deep interior.
Paper
The title is click bait. The paper is about sea floor carbonate subduction.
Ah, the natural process creating oil and gas.
In 1970, My physics professor at a well known University announced in class that the latest estimates of ALL oil reserves available in the world would run out completely by 1980.
Apparently, Exxon knew something then that is not remembered or mentioned today.
But in any case, since petroleum has ALL been gone now for 45 years as I was taught in College, there is no sense in storing the human generated carbon dioxide remaining in the atmosphere prior to 1980 as it’s remaining lifetime is extremely limited and nature will take care of the rest for free in short order.
As I type this, the UK power demand is 34GW, Wind is producing 1GW, Solar 0. We have a long and painful way to go.
Is no one concerned that by sequestering CO2 these knuckleheads are sequestering one C and two O’s? I kinda like oxygen.
C is far less emotive to general public than CO2 (carbon dioxide) as we all breathe it out in huge volumes. Culling humans to get to net zero by 2050 would not be a great vote catcher for the lefty (we’re all going to hell in a hand cart) climate change zealots
“In February 2020, figures from the Joseph Rowntree Foundation showed that the proportion of people living in poverty in the United Kingdom who are in a working family is at a record high: the proportion was 56% in 2018, up from 39% twenty years earlier in 1998.” [Wiki]
So, having failed at the mission the founding Quaker established, they have moved to the nutty side.
The net effect of this “investment” in Carbon Capture will be to increase the poverty rate yet further.
Yeah but many people will have jobs squeegeeing solar panels and reporting their neighbors thermostat settings in the new green economy…..so will be alive and well as oppossed to roasted by AGW.
‘Carbon’ Capture and storage is yet another Looney Idea brought to you all by the Champions of Stupidity and “Climate’ Change. CCS is good money for no purpose.
Trees turn CO2 into fuel for fireplaces. Someday we’ll discover some techy economic photo-nano-catalytic or whatever process that converts CO2 into hydrocarbons….at which point having underground reserves of fairly pure CO2 would be considered beneficial.
This is what happened to nuclear reactors…the old spent fuel that was a thorny disposal problem became fuel for the newer designs. Not saying it WILL happen for CO2…just a possibility.
MIT and other academic institutions have already developed the basic technology for converting CO2 into methane using solar irradiance, much akin to photosynthesis.
Fire up all fossil fuel and nuclear generators, build new fossil fuel and nuclear generators. Remove all wind and solar from the grid. Remove all government mandates concerning renewable energy.
Sequestering carbon dioxide is a crime against all life on earth and an unspeakable evil. All that CO2 needs to be liberated, and the sequestration facilities destroyed. And it will be.
Invoke cruel and unusual punishment for incarcerating innocent molecules without a fair and unbiased trial by a jury of peers. Maybe H2O would qualify as a peer in the jury selection.
Forget it Jake, it’s DeSmog…
Aside from that, CCS sequestration is an expensive operation that needs to be well planned and monitored, at taxpayer or consumer expense (one way or another). Storage would be reasonably safe in many existing oilfields that are sufficiently deep to maintain the pressure needed to keep CO2 in the supercritical phase. For safety’s sake, depth of over 1000 meters and reservoir temperature above 31°C would be required. If the oil or gas field has been responsibly maintained, no geysers like the one described above would ever occur. In shale gas reservoirs, CO2 is adsorbed onto clay minerals, and displaces methane from the adsorption sites, which is a fascinating way to sequester CO2.
My take on CCS is that this use of CO2 in enhanced hydrocarbon recovery is the only reasonable and practical way to trade CO2 that can conceivably pay for itself, unlike carbon credits that depend on definitions agreed to by politicians and lobbyists, can be fraudulent, and are paid for by taxpayers or long-suffering utilities users; consider DRAX and the convoluted process to claim that is green and doing any good at reducing CO2 emissions.
But don’t get me started on whether there is a point to attempting any of it, or that CO2 has much to do with warming the planet.
Nuclear waste storage is a lot simpler. It isn’t mobile.