Study: “Insidious” Repetition of Climate Skeptic Claims Creates Doubt

Essay by Eric Worrall

“A single repetition is enough to nudge recipients towards acceptance of the repeated claim, even when their attitudes are aligned with climate science”

Repeating climate denial claims makes them seem more credible, Australian-led study finds

Even those who are concerned about climate crisis were influenced by false claims, showing how ‘insidious’ repetition is, researcher says

Petra Stock Thu 8 Aug 2024 04.00 AEST

The study’s lead author, Mary Jiang, from the Australian National University, said: “The findings show how powerful and insidious repetition is and how it can influence people’s assessment of truth.”

Published in the academic journal Plos One, the study said people were more likely to judge a statement as probably true if they had encountered it before, a behaviour psychologists called the “illusory truth effect”.

“A single repetition is enough to nudge recipients towards acceptance of the repeated claim, even when their attitudes are aligned with climate science, and they can correctly identify the claim as being counter-attitudinal,” the paper states.

An example of a science-based claim was that “climate change models can make accurate predictions”, Jiang said. A sceptical claim might challenge the accuracy of climate science or suggest a conspiracy.

“Media are crucial in all of this because the science is settled … We know what the issues are and we know what needs to be done in response and we know the timeframe,” she said.

The paper concluded: “Do not repeat false information. Instead, repeat what is true and enhance its familiarity.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/08/repeating-climate-denial-claims-makes-them-seem-more-credible-australian-led-study-finds

The abstract of the study. The researchers used a sample size of 100 volunteers, whittled down to 52 after post processing, so obviously it is solid science.

Repetition increases belief in climate-skeptical claims, even for climate science endorsers

Abstract

Does repeated exposure to climate-skeptic claims influence their acceptance as true, even among climate science endorsers? Research with general knowledge claims shows that repeated exposure to a claim increases its perceived truth when it is encountered again. However, motivated cognition research suggests that people primarily endorse what they already believe. Across two experiments, climate science endorsers were more likely to believe claims that were consistent with their prior beliefs, but repeated exposure increased perceptions of truth for climate-science and climate-skeptic claims to a similar extent. Even counter-attitudinal claims benefit from previous exposure, highlighting the insidious effect of repetition.

Read more: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0307294

You naughty unbelievers, if you all stopped repeating claims that climate models are trash, that lots of scientists don’t think Michael Mann is a climate hero, that Biden’s energy policies aren’t working, more people would believe.

The study authors stop short of calling for outright censorship, but “Media are crucial in all of this because the science is settled … We know … what needs to be done in response and we know the timeframe“.

Perhaps believers should organise morning Gaea worship sessions, where everyone chants “The climate models are accurate, all climate claims are correct” for 10 minutes every day, to counter the impact of all those insidious climate skeptic messages.

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Rick K
August 10, 2024 6:09 pm

I admit! I am a “climate unbeliever.”

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Rick K
August 10, 2024 6:49 pm

That’s disgraceful but not as abhorrent as being ‘anti-climate’ another Guardian semantic absurdity.

BTW Mary, a psychology student, elsewhere demands that we be skeptical: “Emerging research shows that in order to protect ourselves from misinformation we need prompts to be skeptical of incoming information and engage in considered, analytical reflection before deciding whether to accept it as truth” but not of course of the self-refuting concept: “settled science”. 

Reply to  Chris Hanley
August 10, 2024 7:06 pm

Everyone already KNOWS that anything coming from the Guardian is a load of anti-science propaganda garbage..

No scepticism needed.

Bryan A
Reply to  bnice2000
August 10, 2024 7:50 pm

Fear of Climate Skepticism is fear of the truth.
Fear of the truth is the mainstay of the false prophet.
Leading through deception is the hallmark of the Liberal.

Reply to  Bryan A
August 10, 2024 8:51 pm

As is further evidenced by the fact that “the Liberal” is not liberal.

Ian_e
Reply to  bnice2000
August 11, 2024 7:42 am

‘Everyone’ ? Oh, how I wish.

Bryan A
Reply to  Ian_e
August 11, 2024 12:39 pm

Oh I wish
I were an Oscar Meyer Wiener
That is what I’d truly like to be
Cause if
I were an Oscar Meyer Wiener
Every one would be in love with me

Reply to  bnice2000
August 12, 2024 12:53 am

I wish, I have relatives who complain that The Guardian is “too conservative”.

Reply to  Rick K
August 10, 2024 6:57 pm

A single repetition is enough to nudge recipients towards acceptance of the repeated claim”
The climate alarmists have repeated their claims of climate emergency/climate crisis so many times that it’s impossible to number!
I guess that it’s working, because it’s global now over all western countries that climate change is a crisis and a religion!

atticman
Reply to  purecolorartist@gmail.com
August 11, 2024 1:28 am

But people further east still don’t seem to believe it. I wonder why not. Could it possibly be that the “climate crisis” is, in fact, fake news?

Duane
Reply to  purecolorartist@gmail.com
August 11, 2024 3:04 am

So their obvious solution to this “problem” is suppression of speech. Which also happens to be the prime directive of most religions and political dictatorships.

Reply to  Duane
August 11, 2024 3:54 am

I hear Maduro (the Eagle) of Venezuela is starting to lock up the political opposition.

He says he is going to convert some prisons into re-eduction camps for all those who believe he stole the presidential election.

Don’t you know radical Democrats are licking their chops at the prospects of that happening in the U.S.

Elect one more Democrat to the presidency and that’s what we will get. Radical Democrats would love to have the power to lock up their opponents. They are attempting to do so even today. Another political victory and there will be no stopping the totalitarianism of the Radical Democrats. They will consolodate their power to the dtriment of the rest of us.

Btw, I’m being sarcastic when I call Maduro “the Eagle”. That’s what Maduro called himself when comparing himself to the guy (the ant) that was questioning Maduro’s legitimacy at a news conference. Maduro thinks he is better than the peons. He holds himself in high regard. He thinks he is an Eagle among ants.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 11, 2024 6:04 am

Ripe for a fall. (see maduro in a Spanish dictionary)
Much the same is happening in the UK on a limited scale as yet.
Maduro just shout down X for 10 days in Venezuela. Starmer is thinking about it.

Reply to  It doesnot add up
August 11, 2024 8:20 am

Well I do prefer a ripe maduro wrapper on my cigars. Maybe Maduro isn’t going for a fall but a burn.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 11, 2024 9:54 am

radical Democrats are licking their chops

UK is wanting to extradite US citizens who post “offensive” things on social media. With the current “judicial” system and current politics, what are the chances our authorities will actually cooperate?

Reply to  Tony_G
August 11, 2024 1:23 pm

Yeah, it sounds like the UK is going to have more problems than Net Zero. Now the radical Left in the UK wants to put people in jail for posting stuff they don’t like on the internet. So the radical Left is going to destroy the economy of the UK with the implementation of Net Zero and is going to take the freedom of speech away if you guys complain about it along with throwing you in jail.

Bone up on your anonymous skills.

David A
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 12, 2024 2:38 am

They are more than “attempting” to lock up folk, they are doing it.

Reply to  purecolorartist@gmail.com
August 11, 2024 7:01 am

The fear is that despite millions of repetitions of false claims, a couple of repetitions of the truth is a real threat.

Reply to  purecolorartist@gmail.com
August 11, 2024 9:47 am

The climate alarmists have repeated their claims

If “a single repitition” of skeptical claims is enough to affect people’s beliefs, doesn’t that suggest a significant weakness in the claims they’ve been hearing repeatedly for years?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  purecolorartist@gmail.com
August 11, 2024 9:22 pm

What actually causes doubt are the constant, insipid, and utterly ridiculous alarmist claims.

Reply to  Rick K
August 11, 2024 6:01 am

I thought Mann was only true in fairy tales
Meant for someone else, but not for me
Mann was out to get me
That’s the way it seemed
Disappointment haunted all my dreams

Then I saw his case
Not a trace of doubt in my mind
Hand in glove
I’m a believer, I couldn’t leave him if I tried

Ian_e
Reply to  Rick K
August 11, 2024 7:41 am

Room 101 for you my boy!

Mr.
August 10, 2024 6:14 pm

The propaganda (beatings) will continue until acceptance (morale) improves.

Curious George
Reply to  Mr.
August 11, 2024 7:38 am

Why is John Cook’s name missing? At least, the study is Australian 🙂

Fred Hubler
August 10, 2024 6:17 pm

The  “illusory truth effect” huh? Do those who ‘follow the science’ have an immunity to that?


Reply to  Fred Hubler
August 11, 2024 8:42 am

That in a nutshell is a prime example of the rot in academia these days. Somebody writes a paper based on a stupid idea with no supporting evidence just to get a grade in a class or an academic degree and then it becomes social policy.

Reply to  Fred Hubler
August 11, 2024 9:19 am

Metacognitive theorizing.
I’m so going to try to work that into a normal conversation.

Bryan A
Reply to  Phil R
August 11, 2024 12:43 pm

I never Metacognitive theorizing I didn’t underguestimate

August 10, 2024 6:26 pm

Air temperature trendology is all based on a massive pack of lies.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  karlomonte
August 17, 2024 4:43 pm

Air temperature, in the absence of moisture data, tells us nothing about heat in the atmosphere.

August 10, 2024 6:37 pm

Here’s a few entries from my file that could be printed up and pasted up on lamp posts and doorways for all to see:

In a world of propaganda, the truth is always a conspiracy

Regarding global warming, never have so many believed 
in so much for so long based on so little.

The Big Lie is a lie so colossal that nobody 
would believe that someone could have the 
impudence to distort the truth so infamously

Climate Change:
A racket for those making money from it.
A religion for those who believe them. 
A disaster for the rest of us. 

Sequestering CO2 also sequesters Oxygen.  
Why would anyone want to do that?

Malaria is not heat related, it’s mosquito related. There are hordes of mosquitoes in Canada and Alaska and 150 years ago it was a problem there.

How were people persuaded that a cold climate is better than a warm one?

The rise is temperature is about 97% beneficial to humans…

1. More rain is not a problem.
2. Warmer weather is not a problem.
3. More arable land is not a problem.
4. Longer growing seasons is not a problem.
5. CO2 greening of the earth is not a problem.
6. There isn’t any Climate Crisis.

When the Texas power grid has issues, the media blames the Governor.
When the California power grid has issues, the media blames Climate Change.

Governments need to “fix” things. Big governments need big problems to fix. 
What is bigger than the weather? 
And how will anyone ever know when it is fixed?

There is no way that leftist “leaders” don’t know exactly what dire effects their anti-fuel actions are having on ordinary citizens’ standards of living. Ergo, it has to be deliberate malice.

Since 2010 USA closed 290 coal plants. 
EU 190 coal Plants, China opened 500

Climate Change” has achieved “Too Big To Fail” status.

Our media is no longer holding the enemies of truth and freedom to account. 
Instead, it’s acting as their mouthpiece.

“H20 + CO2 and Sunshine = Oxygen and simple sugar.” = Life on Earth

If science can’t be questioned it’s not science anymore, it’s propaganda – – – Aaron Rodgers

 97% of Scientists 
Agree with Whoever 
 is Funding Them

“To pretend to believe some things, you have to pretend not to know some other things.”

Life on Earth is dependent on two
chemical compounds, H20 and CO2,
and one of them is in short supply

If climate science was settled, the IPCC wouldn’t have to put out
a new report every six or seven years where all the numbers are
changed to make it look like it’s worse than previously thought.

When George Orwell wrote “Animal Farm” he needed a boondoggle that oppressive governments promote in order to create an appearance of progress. Orwell chose the windmill.
Wind “turbines” are the modern day equivalent of Shelly’s Ozymandias.
Wind mills are a 14th century solution to a 21st century non-problem.
Wind mills Green Prayer wheels

The Press:
When a Republican is in the Oval Office, 
they all want to be Bob Woodward.
When a Democrat is in the Oval Office, 
they all want to be Monica Lewinsky.

Democrats conveniently, constantly and intentionally
ignore the positive aspects of carbon dioxide. 

Reply to  Steve Case
August 10, 2024 8:58 pm

Anyone know what the record for number of likes for a post is on this site?

We could have a new one ……..

noaaprogramer
Reply to  Steve Case
August 10, 2024 9:02 pm

… and: Raise the red flag on Globull Warming!

not you
Reply to  Steve Case
August 11, 2024 12:50 am

There is no way that leftist “leaders” don’t know exactly what dire effects their anti-fuel actions are having on ordinary citizens’ standards of living. Ergo, it has to be deliberate malice.

exactly correct

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  not you
August 17, 2024 4:49 pm

If Obama 1.0 and Obama 1.2 (the alleged Biden Administration) were merely incompetent, chances are their actions and policies would help over half the people about half the time. They don’t, ergo, it’s a deliberate attack/destruction.

Reply to  Steve Case
August 11, 2024 3:54 am

Steve, that was friggin beautiful. Great summary of climate alarmism.

Reply to  Steve Case
August 11, 2024 8:46 am

Malaria is not heat related, it’s mosquito related. There are hordes of mosquitoes in Canada and Alaska and 150 years ago it was a problem there.

To hit a little closer to home (at least for US citizens) and if I’m not mistaken Washington, D.C. was also historically a fever swamp of malaria. May want to consider adding that to your list.

Reply to  Phil R
August 11, 2024 2:32 pm

Which is why some refer to Our Nation’s Capital as The Swamp.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Steve Case
August 17, 2024 4:45 pm

A lot of those could be bumper stickers.

August 10, 2024 6:46 pm

CO2 is greening the earth. Crop yields continue to break records. The world population is booming. Poverty and starvation is at its lowest levels in history. People are the happiest and healthiest that they’ve ever been.

Sorry, alarmists. By reading those sentences, you just brought yourself 1 step closer to believing those ‘illusory truths’.

Reply to  Tommy2b
August 10, 2024 9:02 pm

You’re a conspiracy theorist …… stoppit, waaaah. I’m telling my mommy on you.

Reply to  Tommy2b
August 10, 2024 11:16 pm

People are the happiest and healthiest that they’ve ever been.”

Except, of course, “climate believers”, who are permanently miserable, and have severe mental health issues.

Bill Toland
Reply to  bnice2000
August 11, 2024 2:18 am

That’s so true. Every climate alarmist I know seems depressed. The more alarmist they are, the more depressed and negative they seem to be They see the bad side of everything, never the good side.

Reply to  Bill Toland
August 11, 2024 4:06 am

Climate Alarmists and Leftists have this in common. They are continually depressed and angry.

I think one has to have that kind of psychological makeup to be a Radical Leftists or a Climate Alarmist.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 11, 2024 10:00 am

one has to have that kind of psychological makeup

More than one study has shown D’s report mental illness at about double the rate of R’s. I would say there’s a correlation – the only question is in which direction?

Reply to  Bill Toland
August 11, 2024 2:35 pm

Not just climate alarmists. Progressives appear to be permanently upset that the rest of us ignore their ideas and are living happily and exercising individual freedom. Or, at least, trying to.

Reply to  Bill Toland
August 11, 2024 3:28 pm

I absolutely love those stories from alarmists where they are weeping and carrying on.

Great slap-stick comedy ! 🙂

August 10, 2024 6:55 pm

This is hilarious because this is precisely the strategy alarmists take ( repeating untruths & half truths until they are believed).
I guess it sucks when your competition steals your game plan 😆

Reply to  Jeff L
August 10, 2024 7:09 pm

repeating untruths & half truths”

Except the realists are repeating provable truths and reality..

Reply to  Jeff L
August 11, 2024 12:02 am

It’s called gaslighting. This woman is very guilty of it.

August 10, 2024 7:04 pm

Yawn, Mary Jiang is just another psycho-ologist trying to slither into the climate trough.

No understanding of science or reality required.

Curious George
Reply to  bnice2000
August 11, 2024 8:22 am

But it is an important contribution to climate science. Somehow, she managed to stop before reaching 97%.

Tom Halla
August 10, 2024 7:36 pm

Their attitude is like the Inquisition, that heresy must be treated as infectious.
They also have no doubt in their Truth, which is conclusive that what they are doing is not science, but religion.

Bob
August 10, 2024 7:59 pm

All of this psycho babble is a bunch of trash. If the CAGW cultists think the skeptics are wrong they need to debate the skeptics in public and make their case. The CAGW crowd have been making the same arguments for three decades and have damn little proper science to support what they claim.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Bob
August 17, 2024 4:53 pm

…and none of their predicted “disasters” have happened!

CD in Wisconsin
August 10, 2024 8:13 pm

“The findings show how powerful and insidious repetition is and how it can influence people’s assessment of truth.”

*************

Heretics! Heretics! The insidious repeaters of heresy ally with Satan! Burn them at the stake! Burn them all!

Back we all go to the Middle Ages.

noaaprogramer
August 10, 2024 8:55 pm

Hi, my name is John. I’m a recovering globalaholic.

John Hultquist
August 10, 2024 9:31 pm

I have been bombarded with repeated claims that Carbon Dioxide is heating the atmosphere since Old Shep’s momma was a pup. I suppose the “insidious” part was long ago abandoned and those claims had the opposite effect. Perhaps Mary Jiang could have a go at explaining my strange behavior.

sherro01
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 11, 2024 1:21 pm

Since the beginning of the global warming scare, we have been waiting for the one clear, definitive, accepted by most people, demonstration with instruments and apparatus that a change of CO2 in an atmosphere (real or synthetic) will cause a temperature change.
It is all as simple as that.
There has forever been a marked reluctance to do the experiment. Instead we are offered excuses that are more journalistic than scientific like “There is no Planet B”. That could be more properly “There is no mileage in demonstrating that we were wrong.”
Geoff S

Reply to  sherro01
August 11, 2024 2:41 pm

But they did the experiment. They ran their unverified, invalidated computer codes without CO2 forcing, and then with CO2 forcing, and proved that increasing CO2 increases global mean surface temperature.

Is a \sarc necessary?

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  sherro01
August 17, 2024 4:58 pm

Actually, we have done the experiment. Since James Hansen made an ass of himself in an overheated Congressional meeting room, we have pretty much continued with life-as-we-know-it, not reducing our Sins Of Emission™ any appreciable extent, and still the world has not ended, the West Side Highway is not under water, the Arctic ice cap has not disintegrated producing ice-free summers, the Greenland icecap has not reduced in the least and in fact is growing, the Antarctic ice sheet continues to grow, the perma-frost is still permanent, the… where’s that link to the page of failed predictions?

August 10, 2024 10:51 pm

I was expecting ‘merchants of doubt’ to creep in. Anyway, just like conspiracy theorists are considered sufferers from a mental illness, climate deniers get the same label. But noone asks, and this is crucial: based on exactly what evidence and are the inferences likely to be true?
But no, and you can understand why. They themselves are suffering from a mental affliction which narrows the mind and presents a binary picture in order NOT to think about the particular issue and comfort themselves in thinking they are the righteous ones by condemning disbelievers to heretic status.
Part of the human condition i would say..

August 10, 2024 10:56 pm

It works both ways. Endless repetition of the doom and gloom prophesies tends to amke people believe those claims, as unsupported as they may be.

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
August 11, 2024 4:23 am

“It works both ways.”

Exactly.

The author seems to think that repeating Alarmist Climate Change claims is a good thing, but repeating challenges to Alarmist Climate Change claims is a bad thing.

Perhaps it is the author who has been brainwashed by repeated claims of a climate crisis. It’s certainly not the skeptics. All skeptics ask is: Where’s the proof/evidence? That’s all skeptics repeat and it’s not a lie, it is a queston. A question that Climate Alarmists cannot answer. If they had an answer, they wouldn’t be trying to psychoanalyze the population because there would be no need as the population would be believers.

Right now, there’s nothing to believe in, because the Climate Alarmists can’t show us any evidence proving any of their claims, other than that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Beyond that, there is no evidence CO2 is anything other than a benign gas, essential for life on Earth.

What the author should focus on is why, after all the Climate Alarmist propaganda that has been put out over the years, is Climate Change last on the list of things people worry about? The reason is people don’t see drastic changes in their local weather, as the Climate Alarmists claim. There’s nothing unprecedented going on with the weather despite the claims of the Climate Alarmists.

In the case of Human-caused Climate Change, the “repeating a lie often enough” is absorbed by some people and rejected by others. Climate Alarmists think this is just because the public hasn’t been brainwashed enough, and want skeptics to shut up and quit messing up the Climate Alarmsits’ narrative.

Phillip Bratby
August 10, 2024 11:04 pm

Science is never settled. Fact.

not you
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
August 11, 2024 12:52 am

xy = male?

they settled that, right?

Reply to  not you
August 11, 2024 1:34 am

Not in Olympic Bocing it seems

Reply to  Ben Vorlich
August 11, 2024 1:53 am

As I understand it XY is precisely what the IOC refused to consider. They take the view that sex is a legal construct, incapable of being discerned by science.

Reply to  quelgeek
August 11, 2024 2:44 pm

Gender

Reply to  Ben Vorlich
August 11, 2024 2:02 am

Much as I disapprove of violence….

I really hope some real male catches these XY pseudo-females and gives them a good slapping around the ears.

Then find the IOC cretins that allowed this, and give them similar treatment.

Reply to  not you
August 11, 2024 9:29 am

Depends on how you define “male,” right? 🙂

Reply to  Phil R
August 11, 2024 2:46 pm

It has been explained to me that the whole concept of gender. Is merely a social construct.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
August 17, 2024 5:01 pm

*ouch* I think I just sprained an eye-roll muscle.

Reply to  Phillip Bratby
August 11, 2024 4:03 pm

Phillip Bratby:

“Science is never settled. Fact”

With respect to the “science” that warming of our planet is due to rising levels of CO2 in our atmosphere, this can easily be refuted:

In the mid-1970’s, because of Acid rain and health concerns, legislation was enacted in the US and Europe to reduce the levels of industrial SO2 aerosol pollution in our atmosphere. These aerosols peaked at 139.4 million tons in 1980, and as the result of “Clean Air” and Net-Zero” efforts, they had fallen to 73.5 million tons by 2022, a reduction of 66 million tons.

As the amount of SO2 aerosol pollution in the atmosphere fell, the intensity of the solar radiation striking the Earth’s surface increased, and temperatures naturally rose. This increase due to the cleaner, more transparent air is INEVITABLE, but has wrongly been attributed to rising levels of CO2 in our atmosphere. Because of the wrong attribution there is NO basis for CO2 to have ANY global climatic effect.

Also see: “Scientific proof that CO2 does NOT cause global warming”

https://wjarr.com/sites/default/files/WJARR-2024-0884.pdf

:

August 11, 2024 1:21 am

The paper concluded: “Do not repeat false information. Instead, repeat what is true and enhance its familiarity.”

OK.

CAGW is a load of bullshit, CAGW is a load of bullshit, Co2 does not control the weather, Co2 does not control the weather.

August 11, 2024 3:00 am

Is that “Baghdad Bob” in the photograph? How appropriate to describe Climate Doomsayers…
For those too young to recall:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf

Reply to  D Boss
August 11, 2024 4:46 am

Baghdad Bob was a funny guy.

He kept telling us not to believe our lying eyes. He was still declaring victory while American tanks were rolling into Baghdad.

Duane
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 11, 2024 7:30 am

Bob taught a whole generation of Democrats to never mind the facts, just keep tellin ’em what you want’em to think.

Duane
August 11, 2024 3:02 am

The insidious “the science is settled” claim rears its ignorant head again. Anyone who claims the science is settled is practicing religion or politics, not science.

Any claim that says science is about “the truth”, instead of science as the study of facts and testing of theories that fit the facts, is not practicing science, but is proselytizing for their religion or ideology.

Reply to  Duane
August 11, 2024 7:35 am

…… or (don’t forget), is proselytizing for their rent payment, and bank balance.

August 11, 2024 3:09 am

Those 100 sampled volunteers are merely their own cohort unrepresentative of anything but the researcher’s bias.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Streetcred
August 17, 2024 5:05 pm

Notice the number reduced to 52 after “…processing…”. So any research subject that failed to produce the results they needed was eliminated from the study. Do you suppose they had to find a place to hide the bodies afterward?

Duane
August 11, 2024 3:16 am

I love the pic of Baghdad Bob with this post. He was a great source of entertainment during the early part of the Iraq war. I hadn’t heard anything about him for decades so I did a quick search and the AI came up with the following also hilarious response:

Baghdad Bob, the Iraqi strongman Saddam Hussein’s spokesman, was captured by American forces in 2003 and convicted three years later in the killings of 148 Shiites by an Iraqi tribunal. After Saddam Hussein’s capture and execution, it is unknown what happened to him, but there is no truth to the claim that he is now running CNN.

Reply to  Duane
August 11, 2024 5:57 am

That *is* funny!

AI running defense for CNN?

Somebody must have asked the AI if Baghdad Bob was running CNN, and the programmers had to jump in there and quash that rumor in any future inquiries into the subject.

Those programmers must keep a pretty tight rein on their AI’s..

Duane
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 11, 2024 7:23 am

I don’t think that the denial of the claim about Baghdad Bob and CNN was the intended response. Apparently the AIs haven’t been programmed yet to suppress speech. That’ll be coming soon. In the meantime, the AIs are saying the quiet parts out loud! Kind of like when young children in a family gathering say out loud that Dad think’s Mom’s sister is a b*tch.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 11, 2024 7:46 am

I think AI right now just picks up on the sheer volume of bullshit in the lamestream media and packages it in human sounding sentences. It’s kinda like talking to a libtard.

I tested perplexity.ai a bit with some questions to see if it was already fully hijacked. When I asked it “Did Malcolm X say beware of white liberals”. it gave me a real unGoebbelsified answer, so not just yet. Pretty soon it will be as useless as factcheckers.

Let the nitwits believe it. They have to live in it too. I don’t.

Reply to  Duane
August 11, 2024 7:39 am

Did AI pick up on the fact that, when discussing “climate” the BBC is sometimes referred to as the Baghdad Bob Corporation. No?

I must try harder in this endeavour.

August 11, 2024 4:04 am

“climate change models can make accurate predictions”,

This is obviously true. I don’t even need a computer to make accurate predictions.

The global temperature in 10 years time will be somewhere between 0 degrees Centigrade and 100 degrees Centigrade.

August 11, 2024 4:10 am

For both experiments, we recruited US participants on Amazon’s online Mechanical Turk (MTurk; http://www.mturk.com/mturk) platform with a ≤ 95% HIT approval ratio and paid them $3.60 USD for completing the 30-minute experiment’

That’s less than minimum wage, of course.

I suppose it is now settled science that wages of 7.20 per hour are perfectly acceptable to American workers.

August 11, 2024 4:22 am

The study says ‘Most participants are climate science endorsers.’
And the study only makes sense if it assumes that these people had never ever heard of any sceptics claims in their entire lifetimes.
So we can safely say that most climate science endorsers have only heard one side of the story.

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 11, 2024 5:19 am

There’s one (‘author’) born every day.

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