From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Philip Bratby
At least the Telegraph is starting to dismantle Mad Miliband’s crazy agenda:
.
Sir Keir Starmer has promised that a new Labour government would decarbonise the UK’s electricity system by 2030 and would, at the same time, reduce average energy bills by up to £300 or roughly 20 per cent of their current level. We know that senior politicians and lawyers see visions that not granted to mere mortals. But is there any connection between this vision and reality?
Accelerating the current decarbonisation strategy would imply building about 35 GW of new offshore wind plants, 10 GW of new onshore wind plants, and 55 GW of new solar capacity in six years. As context, between 2009 and 2023 the UK built 14 GW of offshore wind, 12 GW of onshore wind, and 16 GW of solar plants. The vision implies building new plants at rates between two and six times what was achieved in the last 15 years. Where would the skills, other resources and finance come from?
Recent experience tells us that crash programmes of this kind incur costs that are anything from 50 per cent to 100 per cent higher than “normal” costs. Since Britain is not alone is trying to build lots of new wind and solar plants in next five years, it is a certainty that the costs will be much higher than claimed. Even at current costs, such a program is likely to require investment of £200-£250 billion. Adjusting for probable cost inflation, actual costs are likely to be £300-£350 billion. The sum of £8 billion promised for GB Energy is a rounding error in such a programme.
This is only the start. Huge investments are required in both transmission and distribution to deliver the large increase in electricity generation. National Grid has announced that it needs to spend £50-60 billion over five years in England and Wales to enhance its transmission network to meet decarbonisation targets. Scaling that up to cover the rest of the UK and allowing again for cost inflation yields an estimate of investment in transmission at least £150 billion by 2030. Roughly the same amount will be required to expand the distribution network.
Financing such investments will only be possible with strong government guarantees which means that, setting aside accounting fictions, real public debt will increase by 20-25 per cent of GDP for the decarbonisation programme. The cost of servicing that debt under current arrangements plus operating and maintaining the assets will about £40 billion per year for generation and about £25 billion per year for transmission and distribution.
Households account for a little more than one-third (36 per cent) of final electricity consumption. The same share of the cost of decarbonising the electricity system would be about £23 billion per year. To put that sum in context, in mid-2024 there are about 28.7 million households in the UK with an average electricity bill of £850 per year giving a total cost of electricity for households of about £24 billion per year.
In broad terms, electricity bills would have to double by 2030 to achieve Labour’s goal of decarbonising our electricity system with the costs incurred being passed on to electricity customers. The extra costs could be met in other ways but these are variants of robbing Peter to pay Paul – using taxes or deferring payments.
In addition, it is very unlikely that manufacturing and other industries would be willing to pay a 100 per cent increase in their electricity bills. Either such businesses must be protected in some way or they will simply close down. The result will be larger increases in bills for households.
No-one should believe that decarbonisation of the electricity system means literally that. Solar and wind power are highly intermittent sources of generation. Detailed modelling of the electricity system using many years of weather data suggests that some gas generation would be required for 50 per cent to 60 per cent of hours in the year even after the heavy investments outlined above and allowing for potential imports from other countries.
The options for preventing power blackouts in the early 2030s are either storage – mostly batteries – or carbon capture and storage (CCS). The first option is extremely expensive. It is only economic for load shifting from the middle of the day to the evening, so that gas generation would still be required for 40 per cent to 50 per cent of hours in the year. CCS is an experimental technology which up to now has failed everywhere it has been deployed on a commercial scale. Still, visions being what they are, this is the get-out-of-jail card for Labour policy.
Stepping back, there is an underlying trend that few appreciate. When we discuss energy prices most assume that the major component of what we pay is the market cost of energy – electricity or gas. That is wrong. In the period 2005-10 the wholesale price of electricity was an average of 38 per cent of the retail price paid by households. The figure for 2024 is 21 per cent, which reflects the typical value since 2019 excluding the 2021-22 when prices were subsidised. The share of the wholesale price of gas in the retail price paid by households is currently 36 per cent but has also been falling.
Over nearly two decades governments have used levies on energy prices as a form of taxation, both to subsidise investments in renewable energy and to fund a variety of programmes. A Labour government is likely to go further down this road. It could reduce energy bills by removing levies on energy consumption. That is about as likely as any of us being struck by lightning, because it would have to raise taxes to fund the change.
Instead, the prospect is for a very large increase in energy levies and bills to pay for the very high costs of pursuing the vision of rapid decarbonisation.
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.

And keep it up forever, because everything has to be replaced every 20 years.
As the article makes clear, the cost of Labour’s decarbonisation plans is enormous but is also pointless since gas will still be needed to cover the intermittency of wind and solar. So why go down the net zero path at all? It’s all pain, no gain.
According to the Labour party’s website, renewable energy is much cheaper than gas which is used as a justification for building more wind and solar farms. I assumed that this was just electioneering but there is a possibility that the Labour party is so detached from reality that it actually believes this nonsense. In this case, how can you talk to people who are utterly deranged and get them to change course?
Does this give you an idea?
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/06/25/new-yorks-energy-transition-guru-responds-to-basic-questions/
And once the fantasy is finally realized, we’ll look around a notice it made not one lick of difference in our ever-changing climate.
I’m sure the Met Office can arrange to have the UK average temperature adjusted to whatever is deemed necessary. They’re quite good at that.
…all pain and no gain, indeed!
“No-one should believe that decarbonisation of the electricity system means literally that. Solar and wind power are highly intermittent sources of generation. Detailed modelling of the electricity system using many years of weather data suggests that some gas generation would be required for 50 per cent to 60 per cent of hours in the year even after the heavy investments outlined above and allowing for potential imports from other countries.”
Extremely understated. Solar is only ok for some areas for about 8 hours a day, on some days, Wind can be almost zero when solar is also zero. Both solar and wind REQUIRE almost 100 percent of name plate steady state on demand back up. Both a nations economy, manufacturing and national defense, depend on this.
That back up must come from Natural Gas, coal or nuclear.They have dmonised nuclear, and made a large percentage of the cost of coal and natural gas, far MORE expensive due to taking two thirds of their business away, as solar and wind get first sale, first right usage, depending on the variable climate. whenever they can, so, via regulation coal and NG revenue is way down, yet the are required to be ready to produce 24 7. (Reduced revenue, same or higher costs, harder on the equipment,) all simply due to forced government decree, and then the liars lie, and base the wind and solar costs on “name plate capacity” not actual production, (actual production is about 33 percent at best, zero at times) and replacement costs (shorter life span for wind and solar, and the cost of crippling NG and coal is not passed to wind and solar as it should be.)
It is not that some steady state generation is required 50 to 60 percent of the time, but that wind and solar almost 100 percent fail for a percentage of the time, often at the most critical time, during a deep cold freeze, or hot drought, when demand skyrockets. All of this insanity for what end. Much of the rest of the world will continue developing coal, NG, and nuclear at a tremendous rate. The net effect on climate over the next 75 years, even with the IPCC super inflated numbers, is at best .3 degrees. Yet, while the benefits of CO2 continue to increase on a linear pattern with more CO2 meaning more food per acre with no more water required, the warming potential steadily diminishes as the CO2 bands are saturated, and occurs mostly at night meaning reduced frost damage.
And sometimes sooner-
Cape Nelson wind turbine fire | Watch (msn.com)
Wind turbine on fire Cape Neilson Road Portland | Fire Rescue Victoria (frv.vic.gov.au)
Double post.
You’re quite right. None of the above takes into account the fact that a large number of the existing wind/solar generators will have died by 2030. They’ll be lucky if they can replace all of these never mind build all the new ones promised.
While it may seem a little perverse, I really do hope that the swivel eyed loon (pictured) gets into power.
Let me explain.
Both the main parties are NZ zealots. I believe it will be a disaster. Labour have promised to accelerate the program.
Both main parties have committed to NZ and so it can only end by it going horribly wrong on their watch.
I hope Labour get the “cockpit” because they represent the best chance of getting this crap out of our system fastest. Hitting the wall faster so to speak.
Whilst I agree, I fear by then Labour will have completed the destruction of industry in the UK. Why they want workers to lose their livelihoods proves they actually hate working people.
I agree entirely. The Socialists promise to invest in growth in the economy by building more on and offshore turbines which will provide cheap electricity and lots of highly skilled well paid jobs!
Socialism has never, ever worked anywhere in the world just as their plan to provide cheap energy through Renewables will also fail.
I wonder if they have a massive sofa where they hope to find the hundreds of billions required to produce cheap and clean energy?
One thing where they will succeed is in ruining, once again, the economy. But socialist are experts at spending other people’s money as Red Ed Milliband will prove in his drive for Net Zero.
I am off to service my petrol generator and research buying another (everyone will need at least one)!
The majority can’t afford even one and most likely a quite large majority have no place to put one.
I live in a village with no gas and with the possibility of Log Burner’s (under Red Ed) being banned. In Winter, in the UK, people similar to me will definitely need some sort of back up to renewable energy. My oil boiler requires electricity to work. I have had, in the past, had experiences of no electricity the longest for 5 days, in winter. My 90 year old neighbour, had, fortunately a log burner to keep her warm and boil a kettle! Hence purchasing a large generator!
It’s insanity on steroids. They want more immigrants because they want more workers and at the same time they are destroying jobs. Totally Orwellian double think.
I have my generator and backup battery’s already in place.
I am getting heartily sick of hearing the words “decarbonize” and “climate change”. We can’t watch a news item or documentary without those words being slipped in somewhere.
I used to watch nature documentaries on British television. However, they have all been ruined by climate change propaganda which has made them unwatchable. Even farming programs have been destroyed.
👍glad I’m not alone
Suggest watching Clarkson’s Farm – Jeremy exposes the incredible burdens the govt’s place on people producing food.
The UK is doomed. The only way out is via Reform UK (which will abolish Net Zero), but the establishment (Labour and CONservative) and the MSM are doing all they can to slur Nigel Farage and his party.
Indeed. Channel 4 went so far as to hire an actor to impersonate a Reform Party canvasser in Clacton who then went round spewing naughty words to smear the party. It has blown up big time.
Yes – here in NE Scotland we are the foot-soldiers in the ongoing battles to try to stop this nonsense. My group is trying to push-back on the 400kV line going down the East coast – others fighting wind farm applications, BESS sites, substations and the like.
Labour has been hit with the biggest fine ever levied by the Electoral Commission after an investigation triggered by the EdStone.
…
The stone carried six pledges made by then-Labour leader Ed Miliband on what he would achieve in government.
Had he won, the plan was to plant it in Downing Street.
…
Despite much searching, sources claim the EdStone has now been broken up and destroyed.
https://news.sky.com/story/the-7-600-edstone-earns-labour-a-20k-fine-10631512
Latest Electoral Calculus poll forecast is for a Labour majority of 280. in a 650 seat Parliament. Conservatives reduced to 65. With a range of possibilities between 24 and 170 for Conservatives. The trend for them continues downward.
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html
Expect a tidal wave of progressivism, including self declaration of gender, quotas by something called race, perhaps also social class, on all kinds of employment. Also open borders. Also attempts to close down private education by taxing it and discriminating against non-state schooled students. And all this accompanying the closing down of reliable power generation and the attempted move to EVs and heat pumps.
If you are young and can, move abroad. If you are old, buy a new ICE car and a new boiler, and be very careful who you talk to and what you say. This is not the Labour Party of Tony Blair, still less that of John Smith. This is going to be something unique in British parliamentary history.
There are no “conservatives” in the British parliament.
Haven’t been for several years.
The “Tories” are just another branch of the far-left anti-reality cabal..
Hence, there is no-one for actual conservatives to vote for.
Reform Party under Nigel Farage is our last hope.
Realists in the UK should put on a mock funeral for the impending death of your nation.
Stagger stagger….
Renewables, gas the cheapest form of energy, report finds | Watch (msn.com)
and bringing up the rear-
Waste sector fears ‘catastrophic’ electric vehicle battery fires, as first wave of EV batteries reach end-of-life (msn.com)
ho hum night time in Oz with Fuel Mix showing 76% fossil fuels and that all has to go for nut zero-
AEMO | NEM data dashboard
And next time there is a wind drought, which happens quite regularly…
… Coal, Gas, Diesel.. with some hydro will carry basically the whole NEM demand.
There isn’t the capacity in the market from manufacturing capacity, installation services, even the governments own environmental planning and regulation.
It’s not going to happen. They only thing in question is how much damage can they simultaneously do to both the renewable and hydrocarbon generation markets while continuing to believe in their fantasy.
Look deplor…err…pardners it’s not about plenty of power but how WE use it-
Not the size of the energy build, but how we use it (msn.com)
Idiotic net zero plan in the extreme.
First – the goals of new wind and solar power will never be realized.
Second – whatever does get built, will be utilized less than what is already built. The UK has spent over 1 billion pounds on wind curtailment just in the past 6 years; the annual bills are now in the 250 million to 300+million pound range. Quadruple wind install and the curtailment cost numbers will increase at least 6 times, possibly 8 times or more.
Third – whatever is built, even if the goals are met, there will still be both short (overnight) and long (annual) periods where there will be insufficient wind and/or sun. This combination will add extra cost since the only types of backup that are economically viable in these setups are diesel generators.
I feel sorry for all the people living in the UK now and in the near future: your lives are going to get much colder, darker and shorter.
I’m shocked – SHOCKED! – that people don’t believe that in this one singular instance that the expected costs and savings projected by government won’t be realized. I fully expect it to come in under budget and save people even more money than projected.
Just like California’s high speed rail, which is a model program of government efficiency.
The term “Net Zero” is incorrect. The correct term is Nimby Zero (so it’s still NZ for short). CO2 emissions are not being reduced and cannot be reduced. The fantasy target is achieved by making other countries emit the CO2. So the CO2 is not from virtuous nations. NB. Keep quiet about China, exposing them as CO2 emitters would destroy our own virtue. Can’t have that.
I’m sorry but this article is just total scaremongering from start to finish. How do I know? Because I received a leaflet from the Labour candidate in my constituency and it said:
“And we will create GB Energy…..that will put money back in your pocket by bringing down energy bills for good”.
And everybody knows that there is never anything false in an election leaflet. Everybody knows that there has never, ever been an election leaflet with a promise that wasn’t delivered.
So I am fully confident that in the space of a year or two, my energy bill will be lower than it is just now. Just as I am fully confident that Scotland will win the 2026 World Cup.
Obviously did not need the /sarc
You will have nothing and you will be happy.
No food. No shelter. No transportation. No job. No clothing. Well, that might make a few people happy. No meds. Living to the ripe old age of 40. And so on.