POLITICO: ‘Europe’s Greens take a beating at the polls. Is the US next?’

From CLIMATE DEPOT

By Marc Morano

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/power-switch/2024/06/10/europes-greens-take-a-beating-at-the-polls-is-the-us-next-00162541

By JOEL KIRKLAND

Climate action on the other side of the Atlantic flourished after the “green wave” and “quiet revolution” of the 2019 elections elevated the Green Party into a force in the European Parliament.

Five years later, a reversal of political fortunes in Europe could upend the move to zero-carbon energy and a hard shift toward electric cars by 2035.

In a continent-wide election that ended Sunday and left Europe’s political establishment in tatters, political support for green policies was undercut by the rightward tide. The center-right European People’s Party will have the highest number of seats in the European Parliament, while far-right parties gained significant ground. Green parties lost almost a quarter of their seats, and support cratered in France and Germany.

Our reporting team in Brussels noted it marked a reversal after climate activists marched in the streets before the last election.

Parties on the left are sure to come to the defense of climate policies. But a fight among factions on the right could also be on the horizon if far-right politicians attack the European Green Deal and its goal of zeroing out climate pollution by 2050.

EPP leader Manfred Weber told POLITICO the European Union’s ban on the sale of combustion engine cars after 2035 was a “mistake” and promised the party would discuss rolling it back in “upcoming days.”

That would mean a split with his party’s lead candidate, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, who has backed the ban on the campaign trail.

Sound familiar?

Other than the parliamentary aspect, this all might strike a chord.

In November, American voters face a similar choice: Endorse four more years of a clean energy-driven U.S. industrial policy that took shape under President Joe Biden that aims for a zero-carbon economy in 2050, or return Donald Trump to the White House. If Trump is elected and the federal government takes a far more skeptical viewpoint of the climate problem, hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies for clean energy technology could wither on the vine.

To get in front of this new wave beating against the political establishment, Biden, U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and French President Emmanuel Macron are taking dramatic steps, John Harris and Alexander Burns write. On Sunday night, after the strong showing of Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally party in France, Macron called for snap parliamentary elections. Sunak has also called for a new U.K. election in early July to shore up support for his beleaguered Conservative government, if possible.

And Biden, who’s struggling to get a handle on worrisome poll numbers, got Trump to agree to the earliest-ever general election debate, scheduled for June 27.

For climate and energy policy in the United States, instability is par for the course.

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MrGrimNasty
June 11, 2024 2:11 pm

With the UK election coming, the main news channels are all full of articles along the lines ‘you tell us climate change is one of the most important issues’. Really, who does? My local news says they had been contacted by numerous concerned viewers, turns out it was 60 via a ‘have your say’ facility, blatantly hijacked by an organised group of activists.
In reality….
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Dieter Schultz
Reply to  MrGrimNasty
June 12, 2024 6:50 pm

Really, who does? My local news says they had been contacted by numerous concerned viewers, turns out it was 60 via a ‘have your say’ facility, blatantly hijacked by an organised group of activists.

There are far too many people that need someone to think for them, or conversely, believe they need to play to, what they perceive to be, the need for someone to think for others. In the latter, the ‘small people’ are just not capable of deciding without the guidance of some poll that forewarns them what ‘others’ are thinking so, it’s assumed, they’ll know what to ‘think’ of some issue.

Today’s ‘polls’ are the equivalent of yesteryear’s astrologers and related columns… it’s sad.

June 11, 2024 2:14 pm

“For climate and energy policy in the United States, instability is par for the course.”

Not in Wokeachusetts- it’ll be the last political entity on the planet to surrender their climate emergency fundamentalism.

Paul S
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 11, 2024 2:21 pm

Maybe Joe, but don’t rule out Boulder….

Scissor
Reply to  Paul S
June 11, 2024 2:31 pm

There’s always hope. In Boulder, as in most places in the U.S., the greens are in cahoots with the communist, abortionist, anti-freedom and rights democrats.

I do find that one can share a beer and a conversation, especially if you’re paying, and there’re plenty of good brewpubs in Boulder.

Randle Dewees
Reply to  Scissor
June 11, 2024 3:45 pm

And go up to Boulder Canyon and do some of those soft rated sport climbs – I’ve a group of climbing buddies there, we don’t talk politics.

Reply to  Scissor
June 11, 2024 6:35 pm

With ‘peak renewables’ power generation in Europe in 2017 (believed temporary), followed by bankruptcy of 8 renewables manufacturers and the fleeing of private capital from the sector (aka
“hundreds of thousands of green jobs), followed by 47MW of spent wind units to be decommissioned by 2019, then the Covid lockdown for two years+, then the supply chain bottleneck and inflation problem, both still with us, then the panic of UK and EU belatedly realizing that 10s of millions of their citizens were at risk of freezing in the dark of the coming winter, sent heads of state flying hither and yon to secure adequate nat gas at spot prices 10 x that of a few years ago

After such a scare does anyone imagine they would jump back into the dangerous game of renewables. No, the 2017 peak is here to stay and I haven’t even mentioned what is happening to the greens on the political front.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 6:44 am

Do you even read these things?
They collect data, unverified, from 3rd party sources.

Also:
Renewable sources include hydropower, solar, wind, geothermal, bioenergy, wave and tidal.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 12, 2024 7:10 am
MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 11:36 am

An utterly meaningless number.
Try comparing renewables against all fossil fuels, comparing against only coal is a fools game, but then, you are a fool.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 12:37 pm

You continue to cite a website that is agenda driven.
You can have your agenda. I prefer science.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 9:36 pm

MYN: Yeah, they have a nasty habit of disappearing inconvenient statements made. However here is an article in the Guardian in 2021 that constrains the number built in EU/UK. Indeed, it constrains the number built in the whole world outside of China! :

“China built more new windfarm capacity in 2020 than the whole world combined in the year before, leading to an annual record for windfarm installations despite the Covid-19 pandemic.

A study has revealed that China led the world’s biggest ever increase in wind power capacity as developers built almost 100GW”

According to the author:

“…unprecedented growth observed in 2020 should be credited to the Chinese wind market.”

SOURCE: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/10/china-leads-world-increase-wind-power-capacity-windfarms

Scroll down to the global installations diagram. Oh my! Considering that 47 GW is awaiting decommissioning in 2019, peak renewables in EU/UK and the world outside China was actually 2015!! My lost source for 2017 must have wanted to be conservative in his statement (geologists tend to have good forensic minds. Whodunnit crime scenes for them are cold cases often millions to billions of years ago).

mleskovarsocalrrcom
June 11, 2024 2:26 pm

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. The Marxists bit off more than they can chew this time with AGW and it caught up with them. World politics today is no longer about finding the happy median but about full control. When your claim to power means reverting to a century old economy and lifestyle you lose.

Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
June 11, 2024 6:54 pm

The Socialists and Marxists were riding high when cost of money was at 1% and inflation at 2%, and crazy predictions were made about how cheap wind and solar and batteries and EVs and heat pumps were going to be, which all turned to mierda de toro, after inflation went to 6% and cost of money to 7%, and materials prices went up, and labor prices went up, and supply chain interruptions increased, and then no one could afford any of that Socialist/Marxist bull manure.

The farmers were protesting their woke craziness with their tractors, and truckers with their semis, and all came to halt.

LISTEN TO US.
WE MEAN BUSINESS
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
OUT WITH ALL OF YOU
OUT WITH NET ZERO, WHICH IS SUICIDE PACT

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  wilpost
June 12, 2024 6:46 am

So sad they did not repeat history with cries of “Off with their heads.”

Edward Katz
June 11, 2024 2:36 pm

It’s the old story: what looks good on paper and in theory often fails in terms of real-world practicality. The Greens relied too much on their doomsday scenarios to attract votes, but after they received higher support in the 2019 elections, voters soon began to realize that their fantasy-world of renewable energy and EVs just couldn’t deliver as higher costs and lower reliability became common. Now that Europe hasn’t experienced any climate disasters, its residents just want a return to affordability and dependability. Hopefully voters in the US and Canada will follow suit this November and next year and quit falling for the myth of their responsibility to help save the planet by subsidizing what doesn’t work.

MarkW
Reply to  Edward Katz
June 11, 2024 4:59 pm

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MarkW
June 12, 2024 6:46 am

I hope it is alright if I use that. It is spot on.

Rud Istvan
June 11, 2024 2:59 pm

Have been reading up on this today. Lots to digest. Appears EU elections were bigly influenced in many countries (UK, Germany, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy) by just three things:

  1. Immigration.
  2. Inflation.
  3. Green Net Zero and the resulting multi country farmer tractor protests.

Scared Macron and Sunak into snap elections; Belgium PM resigned today. Wilders and Meloni very strengthened, while Scholz very weakened.

The 5 Nov US election will be no different—if can be kept honest unlike 2020, or with turnout TOO BIG TO STEAL. Cleaning up voter rolls in several states like GA and AZ and CA (thanks to True the Vote), and judicial rulings in Wisconsin (against ‘COVID indefinitely confined’) and PA (signature verification and ballot acceptance date) all help. As does Biden’s disastrous term. Let’s see—immigration, inflation, green New Deal. Sounds familiar?l

Reply to  Rud Istvan
June 11, 2024 6:33 pm

over 50 different court cases about election irregularities produced no change. Many GOP elites who ran with fake electors are going to jail
Recounts and audits and two states Biden won narrowely produced no change .

Its it time to abandon the buffoon loser farting Trump

Reply to  Duker
June 11, 2024 7:00 pm

Court cases that rightly or wrongly for the most part where not rejected on the merits but for technical reasons together with insufficient time to correct court errors. The fact that there was massive election fraud sufficient to flip the election is indisputable on the basis of public (SoS) records but who did it and how is still not answered with certainty.

Reply to  Ollie
June 12, 2024 12:46 am

The “Data Integrity Group” and its Claims of Election Fraud Debunked
https://nickdepsky.medium.com/the-data-integrity-group-and-its-claims-of-election-fraud-debunked-c8307867667c

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 3:07 am

A hear-say opinion junk-link, from a fart-left NON-ENTITY with ZERO credibility.

Just the sort of gormless twit you would listen to. !!

MarkW
Reply to  bnice2000
June 12, 2024 11:39 am

To a socialist, yelling you’re wrong at those who disagree with you, counts as debunking.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 7:07 am

I repeated the statistical analysis of Wayne Co. & Detroit. The independent report said there was a problem and had graphs, etc. to back up the claim. The election official simply said the person did not know how voting in WC & D worked.

I figured it out, including what was wrong with the analysis and there was no problem. It took me 80 hours of my personal time to go through it.

There was also the human error in an upstate Mi. district. Stupidly, the reports were that the Dominion machines were rigged. The election official caught what proved to be a human error (the wrong thumb drive configuration file was loaded), the error was reported, the cause was identified and tested, and the results were corrected.

However, there are many more that do not pass the smell test. The real problem is the media conflating voter fraud with election fraud. There was a lot of election fraud, which be definition is violation of State election law. An election official who waives the requirement for signature verification on mail in ballots results in election fraud.

Personally, I am not going to go through the analysis in the link provided. I have better things to do with my time.

In 2018, a Congressional committee, including Pelosi, determined that electronic ballot machines, such as Dominion, were a risk to election integrity. In 2020 they fell over themselves praising those same machines.

An election review committee announced the 2020 was “The Most Secure Election in US History.” Funny. They did not define secure and one of the voting members was a Dominion representative. 2 years later and independent auditor reported 9, count them 9, serious security vulnerabilities with the Dominion machines.

Funny, that committee did not assess the inherent security risk of mail in ballots. The ballots violate basic chain of custody and are handled and transported by person NOT certified as election operatives.

I can go on about many other things, some bogus, some spot on, about the 2020 election, but the BIGGIE…

The election interference by the DNC and DOJ and Biden in censoring the Hunter Biden Laptop and the New York Post.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 1:03 pm

Depsky’s ad hominem attack on DIG is irrelevant and should raise a red flag for critical reviewers of his work. His analysis was discussed on many websites when it was first posted and never gained traction because he did not provide a credible argument for refuting DIG’s analysis.

There are many “holes” in Depsky’s analysis, including the disconnect in GA between Biden’s small county wins and large vote total with essentially no rejection of absentee Biden ballots which were 70% of his vote, etc., etc.

But the main problem, as DIG and others, for example, found is that total votes cannot be decremented as happened mostly with Trump votes and observed in real time on millions of TV screens unless fraud is involved, as well as when total counts were zero for a period of time. Other quanitiative analyses reached the same conclusion. In addition, evidence of major fraud and irregularities was well publicized (e.g., ballot stuffing, ballot harvesting, AZ’s Maricopa county problems, Detroit restricting observation, PA’s Supreme Court actions, etc. etc.).

As I said, “The fact that there was massive election fraud sufficient to flip the election is indisputable” and nothing Depsky presented refutes that.

Reply to  Ollie
June 12, 2024 4:06 am

“The fact that there was massive election fraud sufficient to flip the election is indisputable on the basis of public (SoS) records but who did it and how is still not answered with certainty.”

Yes, that’s the bottom line.

Reply to  Duker
June 11, 2024 7:18 pm

Trump is going to rescue you and the other at risk Nile crocodiles while your snapping at his backside during the rescue.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
June 12, 2024 12:52 am

He will rescue americans from modern technology, freedom, equality, and democracy.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 3:02 am

NONE of which Biden can possibly provide.

Because he wants EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. !

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 6:27 am

This clown is wrong about everything. Technology that doesn’t deliver, freedom to do what you are told, equality based on racist ideas of quota and redistribution of wealth, and dictatorship renamed”democracy” that forces what the majority does not want has a name. It is totalitarianism, and that is what Trump, despite his faults, is not and the Left is.
They don’t care about the environment or the planet beyond how they can control it

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 7:12 am

You need your head examined if you think the Government can provide modern technology.

You really need to rethink your point of view. The greatest purpose of the government is to protect the people FROM the government.

Telling us what to think and how to choose is not freedom.

Telling us that this class of people has more rights than another class of people is not equality.

Interfering with voting is not democracy, and yes, the government interfered in the 2020 election.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 12, 2024 7:45 am

How do you think nuclear, space and military technology (and its civil use cases) came to be?

You really need to rethink your point of view. The greatest purpose of the government is to protect the people FROM the government.

No, read about the history of industrialization, that will show you how governments decide and whom they protect.

Telling us that this class of people has more rights than another class of people is not equality.

For example?

Interfering with voting is not democracy, and yes, the government interfered in the 2020 election.

True, Trump tried to overturn the election, and when it didn’t work he tried to paint it as stolen.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 11:45 am

Nuclear technology was for the most part provided by private companies.
Space technology was almost entirely built from technologies that had already been developed by private companies for their own purposes. About the only part of “space technology” that was developed specifically for NASA, were the rocket engines.
Same for military technology, almost all of it is built on and with private sector technology.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 12:54 pm

Nope. Which politician invented nuclear or space or military technology?

Trump tried to bring into light and challenge multiple election irregularities. As President, bound to uphold and defend the Constitution, having convincing evidence that something was wrong, it was his DUTY to do what he could to get corrections.

Given Biden, the DNC, and DOJ colluded to bury the NYP Hunter Biden Laptop story (the laptop being in possession and verified legitimate and unaltered by the FBI in January 2020), block NYP from social media, censor any posts about the laptop, stole the election. Multiple poles reveal that 5% of the voters would have switched from Biden to Trump had the laptop not been quashed.

You do know nuclear was first invented and demonstrated at the University of Chicago, not the government.

Space flight was initiated by was non-government amateurs (Goddard, for example) until politics came into play during the Cold War.

Most of our modern technology originated at Bell Labs. Start with the transistor. Bell also established coast to coast telephone service. What did the government do? They busted Bell up.

Military technology was doing fine with companies engineering ideas and then had fly-off competitions to select the best items. Then Robert McNamara turned it from Engineering to Cost Accounting acquisition.

I lived through these histories. I was there.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 13, 2024 4:59 am

Trump did try to overturn the election, but he did it legally by attempting to challenge State electors from various States. Something the Democrats did in 2016, but you don’t see anyone claiming they were trying to overthrow the government by doing so.

And Trump does paint the 2020 election as stolen because that’s what he believes.

Hillary Clinton still says Trump stole the 2016 election from her.

There’s not enough evidence to say that the 2020 election was stolen, but it sure looks to me like it was. Lots of suspicous events.

Trump got about five million more votes in 2020, than he did in 2016, but he still lost. Second term presidents don’t usually get more votes the second time around. Obama got fewer votes in his second try. But Trump made big gains in vote numbers and still “lost”.

I’m skeptical.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 11:42 am

Corresponds to nothing that Trump has ever said or done.
Corresponds perfectly to the nonsense lies that the left always tells regarding Trump.

Reply to  Duker
June 12, 2024 9:22 am

Its it time to abandon the buffoon loser farting Trump

Is your alternative Biden? Because if you want anything other than continuing the current path, Trump is the only realistic option at this point.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
June 12, 2024 3:03 am

A bit of a nitpick, Rud, but the EU elections didn’t happen in GB and GB had no dog in that fight; we left the EU a while ago.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Rud Istvan
June 12, 2024 6:51 am

There likely will also be no Hunter Biden laptop coverup election interference.
Polls (however you view the reliability of those) suggest had the story and NYP not been censored, 5% of the vote would have changed in favor of Trump.

The DNC tried to steal the 2016 election via the Russia Collusion and Steele Dossier fraud (election interference), but succeeded in 2020 by blocking the public from seeing the laptop. FYI, the laptop had been verified as legit and unaltered by the FBI in January of 2020, but they kept silent up until it was presented in evidence last week.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 13, 2024 5:11 am

“the laptop had been verified as legit and unaltered by the FBI in January of 2020, but they kept silent up until it was presented in evidence last week.”

One reason why Trump should fire the current FBI Director on Day One and reform the FBI from top to bottom. Mainly just the top few levels of the bureaucracy.

The FBI Director was involved in Election Interference in the 2020 election by withholding information about the Biden laptop from the American people.

The upcoming trial of Hunter Biden on tax evasion charges will give us an indepth view of Hunter’s business dealings and how his father, Joe Biden is involved.

Republicans in the House of Representatives say they have already traced money to Joe Biden that originated in China.

These congressional Republicans say they will be issuing a report on these matters shortly.

gezza1298
Reply to  Rud Istvan
June 14, 2024 2:32 pm

Sunak was not scared by the EU elections – the UK election was called before the EU vote. The UK must hold an election by the end of January 2025 with the timing up to the Prime Minister subject to the approval of the King. Most people expected an Autumn election to allow time for the economy to improve and gather more support for the Tories. It could just be that Sunak has seen the problem Labour has with the muslim vote that supports the Hamas terrorist murderers and that delaying until the Autumn would reduce Gaza as an election issue.

June 11, 2024 4:11 pm

The world is finally waking up to the theoretical abstraction of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming.

Hopefully this is the start of the turnaround and reality will limit the damage done to societies, particularly children, by the grotesque global political elites, hiding behind the lie.

Always speak truth to power.

Reply to  SteveG
June 11, 2024 6:56 pm

Most should be from Missouri in time for the next Marxist putsch .

Reply to  Gary Pearse
June 11, 2024 9:50 pm

The only attempted putsch in US was jan6 with the rat brain orange head followers.

Hundreds have been jailed , none could write a Mein Trumpf

Reply to  Duker
June 11, 2024 10:24 pm

Did you watch the video on electoral fraud in 2020?

Reply to  Graemethecat
June 12, 2024 12:44 am

Please show us.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 3:08 am

So you didn’t watch it… Ok…

Just listen to your ultra-leftist vote scammer comrades.

Ignore the data.. It is what you do.

Reply to  bnice2000
June 12, 2024 3:57 am

He means the one from Ollie? I shoukd have known that there is not more than a single flimsy source.

And after all those years there is absolutly no data, only conspiracy theories and sore losers

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 11:28 pm

only conspiracy theories and sore losers”

That sounds just like EVERY post you have ever made. !

Reply to  Duker
June 12, 2024 4:15 am

Jan 6 was a demonstration that got out of hand. It wasn’t a planned attempt to take over the U.S. government.

Trump offered Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House at the time, and the person responsible for security at the Capitol Building, 10,000 National Guard troops to provide security for the U.S. Capitol Building before Jan 6. Trump made this offer twice before Jan 6, and Nancy Pelosi turned Trump down twice.

So why would a guy, Trump, who is planning to take over the U.S. Capitol and hijack the election, as you claim, offer 10,000 National Guard troops to protect the Capitol Building? It doesn’t make sense, does it. That means you don’t make sense.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Duker
June 12, 2024 7:17 am

Funny how the Jan. 6 protest at the Capitol turned violent 15 minutes before Trump said, “fight like hell.” Trump started his speech on the mall 50 minutes late.

Funny how requests for National Guardsmen were denied based on “bad optics.”
Funny how those denials were by the Sgt.s of Arms for the Senate and House, both of whom directly reported to Pelosi. Both resigned the next morning.

Funny how Trump authorized the Sec.Def. to deploy 10,000 guardsmen sever days before the protest. Sec. Def. did not deploy or hold any at ready.

Michelle Savard
Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 9:44 am

Wikipedia is your source?! Not a single intellectual would cite Wikipedia… just goes to show that you’re not much of one.

Reply to  Michelle Savard
June 12, 2024 11:34 am

Not a single intellectual would cite Wikipedia

It’s not even allowed to be used as a reference in most school papers.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Michelle Savard
June 12, 2024 12:55 pm

You beat me to it.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 11:31 pm

Wikiped is run and edited mostly by the far-left control freaks.

Guessing you were totally unaware of that fact…

…. just like you are totally unaware of basically everything to do with anything.

June 11, 2024 4:18 pm

You have to wonder about Biden wanting an early ‘debate’. Has his doctor given a prognosis of his mental state in 5 months?

David Wojick
Reply to  ballynally
June 11, 2024 4:32 pm

Canned questions with canned answers. Be funny if he started giving the wrong answers. They are hoping Trump’s aggressiveness will turn people off.

Reply to  David Wojick
June 11, 2024 6:35 pm

Have you seen trumps wrong answers…he still ranting about Nancy Pelosi, did he mean Nikki Haley, so easy to confuse those two! LOL

venezuela seems too be too many vowels for the rat brain to string together

Reply to  Duker
June 11, 2024 7:09 pm

Meanwhile Biden doesn’t appear to know where he is and appears to have crapped in his pants.

Reply to  Michael Dombroski
June 11, 2024 9:46 pm

Amateur … you must be aiming for a trump VP pick

Reply to  Duker
June 12, 2024 3:09 am

You must be expecting another Biden dementia trip.

Bring his mentality down to your level.

MarkW
Reply to  bnice2000
June 12, 2024 11:50 am

As long as his supply of free stuff isn’t interrupted, all is good.

Reply to  Duker
June 12, 2024 4:00 pm

As Winston Churchill would say, “Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.”

I suspect this describes you perfectly.

Reply to  Duker
June 11, 2024 8:45 pm

Have you seen the video of Pelosi admitting that she was responsible for J6? Of course not because it wasn’t on your favorite TV show.

Reply to  eastbaylarry
June 12, 2024 12:49 am

Please show us.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 3:09 am

Poor Luser….

MarkW
Reply to  bnice2000
June 12, 2024 11:51 am

Luser only watches stuff that his cell master has already approved.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 4:43 am

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/unearthed-jan-6-clip-shows-pelosi-saying-i-take-responsibility-capitol-police-being-unprepared-mob

GOP releases Jan. 6 clip of Pelosi saying ‘I take responsibility’ as she discussed National Guard absence

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 12, 2024 4:46 am

Trump twice offered 10,000 National Guard troops to secure the Capitol Building before January 6, and Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, turned Trump’s offer down twice.

Now she laments in the video that there are no National Guard troops at the Capitol Building.

This may be a better link than the one above:

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 12, 2024 9:59 am

He claims to have done so, but everything I find makes it look like a it’s lie like the one about the stolen election.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 12, 2024 11:35 pm

Do you really DENY that there was a minor demonstration on Jan 6th..

Do you DENY that, despite being told of the demonstration, there were totally inadequate security measures taken !!

Do you DENY that guards let many people into the building .

Or are you just totally IGNORANT of everything that actually happened.!

Reply to  bnice2000
June 13, 2024 5:23 am

“guards let many people into the building .”

Yeah, the Capitol Police were giving the guy wearing the Viking Horns a guided tour. They even unlocked some doors for him so he could look inside.

Meanwhile, the Leftwing Media was making this Viking guy out to be some kind of subversive.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 13, 2024 5:21 am

“He claims to have done so”

There are about half a dozen people who verifiy that Trump offered 10,000 National Guard troops to guard the Capitol Building.

Your not know that, doesn’t change anything.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 13, 2024 7:01 am

half a dozen people who verifiy that Trump offered 10,000 National Guard troops

Including the chief of the capitol police at the time.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  eastbaylarry
June 12, 2024 7:20 am

Pelosi, as Speaker of the House, was in charge of Capitol security.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 12, 2024 11:32 pm

Shh.. don’t let the facts get in the way of luser’s little fantasies.

Reply to  Duker
June 12, 2024 4:39 am

At the time Trump misspoke and called Nancy Pelosi, Nikki Haley, Trump was running against Haley in a primary election, so I can see where he might have had Nikki Haley on his mind at the time.

Much ado, from the radical left, about nothing.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 12, 2024 7:27 am

Neither Trump nor Biden pass the mental agility test with flying colors.

In 2016, I could not vote for Clinton (a crook) or Trump (who I view as a libertine).

In 2020 I had to vote for Trump because Biden scared me (I correctly guessed he would continue and augment Obama policies). I did not see Biden breaking his campaign promises of transparency, of reuniting, and of only serving 1 term.

I really would prefer a better choice. I am, however, in favor of Making America Great Again. We have seen decades of decline.

I am a pragmatic, moderate with a Republican lean.

Peace.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 13, 2024 5:33 am

“Neither Trump nor Biden pass the mental agility test with flying colors.”

That’s not true. According to Trump and the White House Physician, Ronny Jackson, at the time, Trump aced the mental acuity tests both times he took them.

I’m not familiar with the details of the test, other than the little bit that Trump described, but understand it is very difficult and very few people get all the questions right. Trump got all the questions right, twice.

Trump looks as sharp as ever to me.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 12, 2024 8:33 am

At least Trump knows what office he’s running for, and what office he held during Covid.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Tony_G
June 12, 2024 12:56 pm

True and you got a laugh for your post. Well met, mate!

Reply to  ballynally
June 11, 2024 8:22 pm

Sleepy Joe will be high as a kite in the debates. Should give an A & B sample directly after the events.

Reply to  ballynally
June 12, 2024 4:32 am

“You have to wonder about Biden wanting an early ‘debate’.”

Yes, one does have to wonder about that.

Perhaps Biden’s handlers thought Trump would decline to debate, as he did during the Republican primary elections, and they could use that against him claiming he was afraid to debate.

Perhaps Biden’s handlers thought he was losing so much ground to Trump in the polls that Biden had to do something to regain momentum.

In either case, I think Biden is going to be a disaster for his side in a debate. His mental decline does not prevent him from being a nasty, partisan liar, so he will rant and rave about Trump and how evil Trump is, but I don’t think that is going to help him much. All Trump has to do is remain calm, cool and collected, and compare his record in office to Biden’s and let Biden blow himself up with his hate speech.

I do like the rule they established where only one debater’s microphone is turned on, so the other cannot interrupt. Biden is real good about interrupting, but he won’t get to do it in this format. They should also establish a rule that the debate moderator cannot interrupt the candidates statements.

In debates in 2020, Biden interrupted Trump constantly as he was trying to make his point, and the debate moderator joined in on the interruptions and took Biden’s side every time. It was two against one, with the leftwing moderator having the final say by shutting down the conversation and turning to another subject, thus deflecting criticism from Biden.

Let Trump make his points, and he will win the debate.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 12, 2024 7:28 am

Oh, but according to Biden HE won those debates.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 13, 2024 5:40 am

Yes, we expect a liar like Biden to say such things. He says a lot of things that are not true. In fact, most of the things he says are not true.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  ballynally
June 12, 2024 7:18 am

Timed it between the Hunter trial schedules.

June 11, 2024 5:15 pm

Harold the Chemist says:

ATTN: Everyone

RE: Carbon Dioxide Can Not Cause “Global Warming”.

At Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii, the concentration of CO2 in air is 427 ppm by volume.
This is 0.839 grams of CO2 per cubic meter of air at STP. The mass of air in 1 cubic meter
is 1.29 kg.

At 20 deg. C, the mass of air in 1 cubic meter is 1.20 kg. The concentration of CO2 in this air is
387 ppm by volume. This is 0.780 grams of CO2 per cubic meter of air. At this temperature and 70% RH, the concentration of water is 17,780 ppm by volume. This is14.3 grams of water per
cubic meter of air.

On the basis of the above physical chemical data and calculations, water is 98% of the “greenhouse effect” and CO2 only 2%. This small amount of CO2 can heat up such a large mass of air by only a small amount.

Finally. I have concluded that there is a cabal of scientists in the IPCC who been perpetrating the greatest scientific fraud in human history for decades. The objective of this fraud is the transfer
by the UN of large amounts funds from fines of the rich countries (i.e., the big polluters of the environment) to all poor countries to help the cope with “global warming and climate change”.

This fraud can not go on forever.

Reply to  Harold Pierce
June 11, 2024 5:39 pm

Don’t forget the millionaires and billionaires who hope to make trillions in profit off the $US200 trillion it is estimated to cost.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-07-05/-200-trillion-is-needed-to-stop-global-warming-that-s-a-bargain

Reply to  scvblwxq
June 11, 2024 7:09 pm

The strategy of the WEF globalists is control and profit.

Reply to  scvblwxq
June 11, 2024 8:52 pm

Trillions of dollars will never be spent, because there really is no climate change. The earth has warmed up ca. 1.4 deg C, but so what. There is too much hype about climate change. Wait until next winter.

You should use Google search for “Still Waiting for Greenhouse”. This is website of the late
John L. Daly’s website.

From the home page scroll down to the near end and click on “Station Temperature Data”.
On the world map, click on “North America”. Then click on “Western America”, and finally click on “Death Valley”

The graph shows that the plots of the average annual seasonal temperatures of are fairly flat. This means that CO2 did not cause any heating of the air in Death Valley up to 2003.

Next click on Australia, then click on ‘Alice Springs”. Annual average temperatures there have been fairly constant since 1859.

The graphs from the many remote sites falsifies the claim by the IPCC that CO2 causes “global warming”. The challenge is to inform all the people of this work.

Unfortunately, John Daly died in 2004.

Reply to  Harold Pierce
June 11, 2024 7:59 pm

Correction for my comment: Change “scientist” to “people” The IPCC does no research on global warming and climate change.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Harold Pierce
June 12, 2024 7:35 am

Further refinement on your correction. There is no such thing as Climate Science. There is a lot of science needed to understand the chaos that is the climate. There is no one science involved. There are some that are skilled in multiple disciplines, but I challenge any of those computer modelers to explain Maxwell’s Equations or the intricacies of the Laws of Thermodynamics and then casually transition the conversation to particle or sub-atomic physics. I remain unconvinced any of them understate the difference between Cv and Cp.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Harold Pierce
June 12, 2024 7:30 am

It is the destruction of capitalism and the formation of a One World Order ruled by the UN, a fully authoritarian socialist government.

MarkW
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 12, 2024 11:55 am

Authoritarian and socialist are redundant.

Reply to  MarkW
June 12, 2024 4:11 pm

Don’t forget…The One World Order also run by the Bush family. (this is a joke!)

Reply to  Harold Pierce
June 12, 2024 2:07 pm

Except the “big polluters” are the “developing” countries, NOT the rich countries.

observa
June 12, 2024 3:40 am

The utter fantasy had to get mugged by reality sooner or later-
(31) The Net Zero and EV transition is based on PURE FANTASY | MGUY Australia – YouTube

Speaking of copper demand the niece and partner were highest bidder for a modest house in Adelaide in the morning and in the afternoon 2 villains in a white van rolled up and cut copper water piping off the rear wall of the house. Caught on a neighbour’s security cam with no rego number but they knew about liability at the fall of the hammer and had arranged immediate cover insurance.

Welcome to a $600 insurance excess and the replacement will be polymer piping but if that’s any guide to the future then EV charge stations will quickly become BYO leads with the charging speed tradeoff that entails. Drive up the copper price drive up the attraction.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  observa
June 12, 2024 7:37 am

And that does not even address having your personal charging cable stolen while parked in front of your house.

Sparta Nova 4
June 12, 2024 6:37 am

It is, after all, Politico…

“…its goal of zeroing out climate pollution by 2050.”

Pollution? Oh, yea, CO2 was declared a pollutant.

“Endorse four more years of a clean energy-driven U.S. industrial policy that took shape under President Joe Biden that aims for a zero-carbon economy in 2050, or return Donald Trump to the White House. If Trump is elected and the federal government takes a far more skeptical viewpoint of the climate problem, hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies for clean energy technology could wither on the vine.”

wither on the vine? How many billions for how many charging stations? Seems withering on the vine is better than wasteful and excessive spending.

“And Biden, … got Trump to agree to the earliest-ever general election debate, scheduled for June 27.”

Funny. I recall Trump issued a debate challenge and Biden declined. Then the reversal, but what has an early debate have to do with anything other than it lands between Hunter’s 2 trials.

Anyone care to bet on the over/under on Biden saying “convicted felon” during the debate?

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 12, 2024 8:36 am

I think the question isn’t if, but how many times.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 13, 2024 5:46 am

“Funny. I recall Trump issued a debate challenge and Biden declined.”

I recall that, too. Trump told Biden he would debate “anytime, anywhere, anyplace”.

The leftwing media at the time was claiming Trump was “begging” Biden to debate because Trump needed something to jumpstart his campaign.

John the Econ
June 12, 2024 6:55 am

Perhaps. But the real problem is that the deep state and subsidy feedback loop is now firmly entrenched. Too many jobs are tied to the scam being perpetrated forever, just like with ethanol.