Why Do We Now Think Politicians Can Control the Weather?

From The DAILY SCEPTIC

BY JAMES LEARY

“Never let a good crisis go to waste.”

If in doubt, attribute a quote to Churchill because he probably did say it at one time or another. It’s certainly been stolen many times over, and the mainstream media, BBC, Sky et al. have declared an emergency, broken the glass and pulled the dusty old axiom out of its case as the pictures of bloodied passengers and crew – pure gold to the climate catastrophisers – came in yesterday after the Singapore Airlines accident over Myanmar (Burma in old money). For aircraft accident it was, and as, sadly, a death was involved, and several severe injuries, this is how it will be treated by the Singapore aviation authorities. They are nothing if not thorough there and eventually the exact truth of the sequence of events will come out, but by then the caravanserai of the chattering classes will have emptied and the climate caravan will be somewhere, anywhere else. They only need to borrow the truth for a day or two, they don’t need to own it.  

A troublesome incident for sure. A ‘perfect storm’ of events seems to have come together. Geographically, Singapore Airlines flight SQ321 was nearing the end of its journey from London and the passengers were being served ‘breakfast’, or whatever meals are called where local time has overtaken stomach expectations. Trollies were out, galleys were stacked with the detritus of 300-odd meals, and passengers were queuing for the loos to freshen up before the arrival into Singapore. All so normal. 

It was approaching mid-afternoon local time, and it’s Monsoon season in that part of the world. Time for the thunderclouds to be developing. Happens every year at this time. Has to happen or it’s a crisis for farmers, fishermen and the local economies around the Bay of Bengal. Yes, if the Monsoon is a bit too vigorous places like Bangladesh suffer loss of life with floods, but sadly, t’was ever thus. It’s no coincidence that if the Monsoon is too (un)damp a squib, then it is described as ‘failed’. It’s that important and has been over the centuries.

It does bring in its wake what the met men describe as ‘chaotic skies’. Clouds everywhere at every level, biblical thunderstorms with electrical activity – and yet hundreds of aircraft full of passengers daily pick their delicate way through the Monsoon without serious incident.

It’s been happening like this since Ponticus was a pilot, as they say. I’ve been navigating these skies since I started commercial flying when I was 20. I learned from the old China-Hands who did it in the early days of what we would today recognise as perfectly normal aviation, not overflying most of the weather, but actually picking their way through it at dead of night with only rudimentary weather warning radar. The already red cockpit lighting turned right down to almost nothing so they could stare out into the night and try to spot the cumulonimbus with their name on it. The Flight Engineer would use a small torch to read the engine instruments so as not to disturb the pilot’s night vision. It was part of the job then. The old captains would joke that it was worse when they were doing this to spot a night fighter that would spoil their evenings more surely than any bloody fluffy white cloud. Yet they (and we) had the greatest of respect for the forces of Mother Nature, then and now. A night fighter will fill your aircraft and possibly you with holes. A cumulonimbus can take hold of you and rip you up like a paper aeroplane. 

Planes are stronger now 50 years on, but pilots’ respect for weather ‘events’ remains as ever. The generally troubled atmosphere surrounding the Monsoon also leads to clear air turbulence which, as yesterday proved, can be just as nasty. It occurs when two air masses rub against each other, thrown together by the progress of the monsoon. Think a ship docking, and slightly overcooking its approach to the quay. The bang and shudder as the irresistible force meets the immovable object. Two air masses do the same, but they’re more difficult to spot and therefore prepare for. It’s similar on the North Atlantic. The famous jet streams are separate fast moving tubes of air which similarly rub up against the surrounding air mass and where they meet turbulence occurs. Always has. They tend to lie along the coastlines of New England and up into the Maritimes of Canada, especially in winter. I remember doing this route regularly in the 1970s and getting tossed around in my 707 mercilessly. I was convinced then that it got worse there annually. It didn’t and a decade later it settled down. Apparently sun-spot activity was very high around then, and there was the odd speculation that this may be linked to rougher winds on the North Atlantic. Nothing was proved and life went on. Grumbling, and slightly queasily we made our way back to Europe. Nobody thought of asking the politicians to alter the weather for us. No cult grew up around what was thought to be happening, organised by people it wasn’t happening to. No human sacrifices were made to placate the gods of wind. But, then there was no money sloshing around either. It was enough that we were understanding more about how things were happening, where they were likely to be happening, and the best way to avoid the worst whilst carrying on the essential task of living a normal life. We knew our limitations and inadequacies when dealing with Mother Nature. The thought of a character assassination of MN herself, or that it might be somehow ‘our fault’ would be enough to get you booted out of a position of responsibility. Now it’s the other way round, and only my generation who form a bridge between now and the sane 70s can recognise the huge gulf in attitudes. Two masses of thinking rubbing up against each other causing what seems to be catastrophic turbulence in mankind itself. 

Back to Singapore. It’s very doubtful if a big nasty cloud caused the incident. They’re too easy to spot nowadays with sophisticated airborne weather radars. Clear air turbulence – not so easy. It can be and is forecast in the preflight met briefings. Only as a likelihood, though, not as a certainty nor in any one specific place. Occasionally there may be seat-of-the-pants warning. A slight rumble. A tremble going through the aircraft. That’s a signal to start monitoring the outside air temperature, the wind readouts and the skies ahead for slight changes to cloud patterns. I’ve erred on the side of safety enough in the past to annoy the cabin crew by warning them that it might get a bit bumpy soon. This throws their routine out of kilter, and they may decide to stop serving ‘hots’, and start gathering trays in. Anything more than a hunch and I’d tell them to secure the cabin, seat belt signs on, and if it’s getting really bad to sit themselves down and strap in immediately. There will be a mess to clear up after, but hopefully no injuries. Make an announcement to the passengers in best ‘resigned to inconvenience’ pilot voice to the passengers that it may be about to feel uncomfortable for a bit, but having been here many times before I know it won’t last for very long. That last bit is important. We’ve all been here before and lived to tell the tale. 

Very rarely there is almost no discernible warning and it’s seatbelt signs on, PA to the cabin crew to be seated and hope that nothing flies around the cabin. Slow the plane down a bit, get on to ATC to request an altitude change as turbulent layers are shallow and a five or six thousand feet change in cruising level can help enormously. 

The latter is what seems to have happened to SQ yesterday. No warning, a quick change of height authorised and sadly the damage control begun. 

As I said, t’was ever thus. No change. The truth is out there, and it will come with the Singapore inquiry months down the line when it will only merit a brief mention in the mainstream media. They will be after another shibboleth by then. 

James Leary is the pseudonym of a retired B747 Captain.

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Sweet Old Bob
May 23, 2024 2:23 am

….We don’t think polys can control the weather ….

polys just think they control us .

😉

strativarius
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
May 23, 2024 3:21 am

Lockdown showed they can control us.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  strativarius
May 23, 2024 3:42 am

As Joe Piscapo said in “Johnny Dangerously” (paraphrasing) – “The government ordered us around once. Once.”

strativarius
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
May 23, 2024 4:46 am

And now control is being bartered at the WHO, and it isn’t over yet.

This draft agreement would have granted the WHO the power to issue legally binding mandates to member states and their citizens during pandemics. This would include imposing lockdowns, quarantines and mandatory vaccinations. This threatened to fundamentally redefine the relationship between nation states and the WHO.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/05/08/the-whos-plan-for-public-health-tyranny/#google_vignette

You know where this is headed.

Mr Ed
Reply to  strativarius
May 23, 2024 6:25 am

“You know where this is headed”

A fascist police state?

strativarius
Reply to  Mr Ed
May 23, 2024 7:45 am

Exactly

Giving_Cat
Reply to  Mr Ed
May 23, 2024 11:39 am

A fascist technocracy.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  strativarius
May 23, 2024 7:49 am

It won’t be a problem in the US. The Senate will not ratify any such treaty, the courts have already declared much of the lockdowns as unconstitutional and only the libtard sheeple will comply.

strativarius
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
May 23, 2024 8:02 am

I hope you’re right

Tom Halla
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
May 23, 2024 8:06 am

Oh really? The Biden clown crew lost in the Supreme Court on student loans, and the Clean Power Plan, and is proceeding anyway.

Bryan A
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
May 23, 2024 5:26 pm

A better question might be
Who convinced the politicians that scientists can control the weather?
A) Michael Mann (most likely)

That’s what the Mann Says
Won’t you listen to what the Mann says
He says…
Blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah

May 23, 2024 2:35 am

Hats off to all you flyguys – at least on the surface we can see the lumpy bits.

strativarius
May 23, 2024 2:45 am

“Why Do We Now Think Politicians Can Control the Weather?”

My first question is: Who exactly is ‘we‘? And secondly, how much of this phenomenon is attributable to incessant propaganda and indoctrination over at least 2 decades?

The BBC is a true crisis of climate champion castigating the [CO2] profligate and belittling the great unwashed; the general public.

Back to Singapore.
“MASTERCHEF viewers have take aim at BBC bosses for “wasting licence payer money” during the latest episode. Fans of the cooking series flooded social media with criticism after the contestants – as well as judges John Torode, 58, and Gregg Wallace, 59 – fly to Singapore for the latest challenge.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/28034790/masterchef-bbc-wasting-license-payer-money-singapore-fee/

Surely the BBCs climate editor sets a better example?

[The BBCs] Climate Editor jetted off to Spain to report on its heatwave – which he blamed on carbon emissions. The Corporation repeatedly refused to say if Justin Rowlatt, 57, had made the 1,800 mile round trip to Spain by plane. But our exclusive picture shows the moment he arrived back at his £2.8 million north London home on Thursday afternoon – with Iberia Airlines bag tags attached to his backpack.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12327499/BBC-Climate-Editor-home-1-800-MILE-Spain-jaunt-plane-blamed-heatwave-carbon-emissions-here.html

If anybody truly believes the weather can be controlled – by human hand – I have a nice bridge for sale, similar to the one at Lake Havasu City…

SCInotFI
May 23, 2024 3:23 am

Thank you for the “Birds Eye view” write up about navigation/weather prediction high up in the air masses when it really counts – I’ll be looking for the CC narrative about this incident and perhaps even enjoying this dose of fiction, thanks to this article.

atticman
May 23, 2024 3:58 am

WE don’t think politicians can control the weather – but THEY do!

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  atticman
May 23, 2024 8:16 am

Via hot air and exhaled CO2, perhaps?

Duane
May 23, 2024 3:59 am

In modern life, humans have concentrated in urban areas, drive fully enclosed automobiles, trucks, and buses, and live in insulated storm resistant housing, and mostly live on the internet.

In other words, modern life in the 21st century is hermetically sealed off from nature and thus from “weather”.

Then whenever the weather exerts its full powers and impacts even those in our hermetically sealed world, it is a shock!!! And someone must be blamed for disturbing the karma of the masses by allowing the weather to intrude.

Warmunism provides such a foil to direct the anger of the masses – at those who have, sell, and use fossil fuels, ultimate bad guys.

As a long time licensed aircraft pilot (of the private variety, not commercial airlines as the author here is), I too can attest that pilots are forever warned to take the weather as serious as a heart attack, to never underestimate what it can do to an aircraft and its occupants. Occupants who also are hermetically sealed off from environmental conditions at 35,000 ft, with 120 knot winds, and sub zero temperatures, and nowhere near enough oxygen to support human life. But that nasty weather thing keeps intruding.

The most frightening incident in my flying was when I realized I had made a bad decision to fly into and through weather that could have easily been avoided if I had just stayed on the ground. But the temptation of “get-there-itis” is compelling. I managed to avoid death with some help from ATC and a bit of luck. Swore I’d never let that happen again.

But anyone who thinks weather is all about fossil fuels is someone who has never really had to expose themselves to real world weather when it gets bad. Sooner or later, even the hermetic seals can be broken by nature.

strativarius
Reply to  Duane
May 23, 2024 4:11 am

In modern life
mostly live on the internet
hermetically sealed off 

Hence the rise of the screen zombie and the cyberman (with headphones on…)

Even worse, the person who rather than helps, films the unfolding tragedy on their phone.

Cyberman
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AWG
May 23, 2024 4:20 am

For the record, I really enjoy when industry people candidly tell us things from their PoV. I would much rather hear about WX from those whose success comes from understanding and coöperating with the conditions.

Dittos with those who actually design, build and maintain energy systems rather than the media, marketing, research “scientists” and politicians who either know absolutely nothing about what they are trying to sell or deliberately lie because their success depends on who buys their lies.

May 23, 2024 4:32 am

Great article – Thanks James & Daily Sceptic.

Yooper
Reply to  SteveG
May 23, 2024 4:51 am
R.K.
May 23, 2024 5:12 am

Here is a guy who claiming to be a retired B747 captain gives a view of what happened which is totally at odds with what really happened. The satellite photos of weather at that time show large thunderstorm masses over southern Myanmar and there would not have been any clear air turbulence. Four other aircraft diverted around these storms at that time, one Finair was at 41,000′ and it seems from later reports the tops were around 54,000′
How any airline flight crew could contemplate allowing the serving of breakfast and enter such an area of weather with the seat belt sign off, cabin staff serving and trolleys and other equipment not locked down beggars belief. If you had your weather radar on and using it properly you would have had ample warning of what might be ahead and not allowed cabin service.
Some years ago after the loss of an aircraft from an Asian airline in Indonesian airspace in thunderstorm activity seminars were held in the Pacific area by a US weather radar expert. He believed after substantial questioning that up to 60% of pilots in the region did not know how to properly use the radar and kept it in the auto function all the time. My own experience as an airline Captain and having flown for 54 years tells me the misuse of the radar contributed to this event and speaking with friends who once flew with Singapore, there have been lots of incidents with this airline that would cause you to not fly with them.

Mac
Reply to  R.K.
May 23, 2024 6:36 am

I flew many hours as a private pilot and found quite a few instances where forecast weather was inaccurate. This was in the early to mid 80’s. Things of course improved significantly over the years.
Speaking of airlines not to fly… I had a patient who was a controller at LAX. I asked him what airlines he wouldn’t fly..”Any airline that has the name AERO as in Aero Mexico etc.
I flew on many airlines over the years in the Asia Pacfic and throughout both western Europe and eastern Europe. Most were very comfortable and the crews competent.

R.K.
Reply to  R.K.
May 23, 2024 2:39 pm

I should have added here that if you were using the radar properly and the tilt function on the antennae you would have gained a view of where the cells were and diverted like the four other aircraft did. A few years ago the same airline flew into cells near Hong Kong in an A330 at 38,000′ with tops at 53,000 and both engines flamed out, probably with ice ingestion. At much lower levels and after restarting the engines they then flew on to Beijing for a further hour forty five minutes when the prudent thing to do would have been to divert to the closest airport.

May 23, 2024 5:13 am

I had a scare on a landing at Edinburgh Airport about 30 years ago. A wet and windy day almost at touchdown the pilot aborted flew round and landed in the opposite direction. I can’t remember what the reason exactly was something to do with wind and turbulence. An exciting couple of minutes.
But we got a great view of the Forth bridges as we flew round for a second go from the opposite direction

Scissor
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
May 23, 2024 5:37 am

Similar, circling back to SFO, the view only a few thousand feet above Yosemite was something to behold, even as the jolt that caused us to double back and black smoke emanating from the right engine was disconcerting.

May 23, 2024 5:13 am

If you want a more detailed and accurate account of what happened, watch Juan Browne’s video on this. He is a working 777 pilot and both shows the actual track data, and the rapidly building convective conditions at the location of the incident. He also shows the turbulence occurrence data from 1989 to 2018, being essentially a straight line. – so no it is not climate change related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UYNFthOx1o (Singapore Airlines Extreme Turbulence Encounter 21 May 2024)

Reply to  D Boss
May 23, 2024 5:37 am

Let us not allow facts to get in the way of some needed climate scaremongering.

This story will soon pass as the tornados in the USA do their best for more scare mongering.

May 23, 2024 6:54 am

There was a king in England (1016 – 1035 AD) by the name of Canute (or that’s what is sounded like. he was Danish). A man surrounded by a sycophantic entourage. One day, just to show his, fallibility, limitations he stood in front of the the oncoming tide, prompted by his court attendants and ordered the surge to stop, with no effect, the waters just rolled over him. How sycophancy and preferment can spell disaster for rulers, it takes a really strong person to stand against it. Buoyed and misrepresented by modern PR stunts and makeovers, today we do not know who we are dealing with and to whose band they are marching. In such an environment ambition is everything and bad actors can masquerade as seers, sage, state leaders. To think, that through the subtlety of world forer, your enemies and their proxies can impose a will on the new minority vote, western democracy, China could be in league with Tuvalu or Christmas Island, Tristan da Cunha in the posing of mythic dangers, fictitious arguments. Democracies have to listen, have to have cogent arguments to dispel such provocations; can be ornamented with guilt narrative. While the malign players ignore who questions them and stoke provocations amongst the devious minions. Votes by numbers alone rather than cogency or accuracy, that’s world government, the other forms of self interest.

strativarius
Reply to  Europeanonion
May 23, 2024 7:48 am

Cnut the great

One only two English kings dubbed ‘the great’.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Europeanonion
May 23, 2024 11:54 am

There was another ruler who the value of pi was unacceptable and forthwith use of 3.0 was ordered.
Fun stories that promote critical thinking.

JamesD
May 23, 2024 7:38 am

Nice prose.

May 23, 2024 8:01 am

Our politicians don’t know how to balance a budget, but they think they can control the weather.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Paul Hurley
May 23, 2024 11:55 am

They balance the budget all the time. Simple. Buy more debt or print more money or both.
(/sarc)

Tom Halla
May 23, 2024 8:03 am

Singapore Airlines obviously failed to make the proper sacrifices to the weather gods. Or is it the right green NGO?

ferdberple
May 23, 2024 8:27 am

James Leary is the pseudonym of a retired B747 Captain.”

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Reply to  ferdberple
May 23, 2024 11:18 am

Looks like this was submitted to The Daily Skeptic, which was who applied the pseudonym.

John Hultquist
May 23, 2024 8:36 am

actually picking their way through }

I recall from many years ago, watching the Eastern Airline plane I was on, doing this very thing. I don’t think the sky was as full of storms as this current episode seems to have been. We were over the central USA.

Sparta Nova 4
May 23, 2024 9:21 am

The only people who believe politicians can control the weather are the politicians themselves.

atticman
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
May 23, 2024 10:30 am

I already said that…

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  atticman
May 23, 2024 11:57 am

You did.
however, it is worth repeating.

May 23, 2024 9:54 am

James,
Any thoughts on the reports from some passengers that the aircraft tilted upward just before the drop?

Reply to  Tony_G
May 23, 2024 11:23 am

The answer to potential injury is SEAT BELTS!!!
They are there for a reason!

Reply to  pigs_in_space
May 23, 2024 12:22 pm

Not clear what that has to do with my question…

Phil.
Reply to  Tony_G
May 24, 2024 9:09 am

Yes it’s what you’d expect from encountering turbulence, you have the automatic controls set to fly you at a constant speed at 37,000′ which depends on the airspeed of the aircraft then you get a sudden change in the speed and direction of the air you’re flying through causing a rapid change in lift, airspeed etc. You’d get a sudden change in the attitude of the aircraft and a rise or fall of the aircraft. The more detailed data I’ve seen for the event shows a small drop in altitude followed by a normal climb response (happens regularly) this was then followed by a sudden increase in altitude at ~1600 ft/min then a sudden drop at ~1500ft/min and then a sudden increase at ~900ft/min.

May 23, 2024 9:56 am

I’ve been saying this for years. Any politician who thinks they can fight “Climate Change” must first think that they can change the weather.

Because weather is the controlling factor of climate by definition, not the other way around around.

When this is brought up in any political discussion, all you ever hear is crickets.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  doonman
May 23, 2024 11:57 am

Crickets, yes, or vicious efforts to silence.

May 23, 2024 10:47 am

Why Do We Now Think Politicians Can Control the Weather?

Why do so many voters look to politicians to solve their problems?

Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 23, 2024 11:29 am

Why do so many voters look to politicians to solve their problems?

Why do so many people think politicians can solve ANY problems?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 23, 2024 12:01 pm

Over the past many decades I have observed programming the masses to only pay attention to glitz (commercials) and they developed a 12 second attention span.
Over the past many decades I have observed schools avoiding teaching critical thinking skills.

So when an election comes around, all you get is “We need change. Trust me.”

So many voters look to politicians to solve their problems because society has brainwashed them.

The highest purpose of government is to protect the citizenry from the government. They fail because it is to their personal benefit and enrichment to not do what’s right.

Bob
May 23, 2024 1:53 pm

Clear air turbulence is a bugger.

Ken
May 23, 2024 8:13 pm

Those injured in this incident were obviously not buckled up in their seatbelts.
It seems to be optional on passenger aircraft except when the captain instructs them.

All modern cars have seatbelt sensors that force you to buckle up or get beeped at constantly.
Surely the airlines could introduce a system along those lines.

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