Electric Grid Reliability: Texas vs. EPA

From MasterResource

By Ed Ireland — October 10, 2023

“Just the possibility that EPA will enact such sweeping regulations will slow investment in new power generation that all U.S. power grids need. Recent grid warnings about possible outages this summer will likely continue into the winter while potential new-generation projects proceed cautiously.”

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recently proposed new greenhouse gas standards for fossil-fuel-fired power plants. These draconian regulations, part of the Biden Administration’s “all of government” climate policy—which is at odds with affordable, reliable energy—threaten the stability of the U.S. power grid.

The EPA plan is the “nuclear option” of regulations because the agency is not just proposing new regulations designed to meet more stringent clean air standards with fines if the criteria are not met. Instead, EPA seeks to impose unachievable CO2 emissions targets that will shut down existing coal and natural gas power plants and threaten the viability of the nation’s power grids. At stake is 60 percent of U.S. generation: natural gas (39%) and coal (20%).

The rules and regulations are phased in starting in 2024, meaning that the effect is that baseload generation sources, such as natural gas and coal, may not be built because these regulations shorten the economic life of such projects. This threatens the viability of the grids within a few years, not sometime in the distant future.

Clean-up Coal: Modern Technology at Work

The war on coal, in particular, ignores the technological progress of power plants. “Coal-fired electricity generation is cleaner than ever,” stated the U.S. Department of Energy. “NETL’s research shows that a new coal plant with pollution controls reduces nitrogen oxides by 83 percent, sulfur dioxide by 98 percent, and particulate matter by 99.8 percent compared to plants without controls.”

Progress with coal plant emissions is reflected in the decline in aggregate emissions. As EPA reports:

From 1995-2022, annual emissions of SO2 from power plants fell by 93 percent and annual emissions of NOX from power plants fell by 87 percent. In 2022, sources in both the CSAPR SO2 annual program and the ARP together emitted 0.85 million tons, a reduction of 11 million tons from 1995 levels. In 2022, sources in both the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule (CSAPR) NOX annual program and the ARP together emitted 0.75 million tons, a reduction of 5.1 million tons from 1995 levels.

The CO2 Obsession

Why is EPA threatening the viability of the US power grids and, therefore, the U.S. economy? EPA is clear that its goal is to limit climate change (page 33243):

These proposals focus on reducing the emissions of GHGs from the power sector. The increasing concentrations of GHGs in the atmosphere are, and have been, warming the planet, resulting in serious and life-threatening environmental and human health impacts. The increased concentrations of GHGs in the atmosphere and the resulting warming have led to more frequent and more intense heat waves and extreme weather events, rising sea levels, and retreating snow and ice, all of which are occurring at a pace and scale that threatens human welfare.

The power sector in the United States is both a key contributor to the cause of climate change and a key component of the solution to the climate challenge. In 2020, the power sector was the largest stationary source of GHGs, emitting 25 percent of the overall domestic emissions. These emissions are almost entirely the result of the combustion of fossil fuels in the EGUs that are the subjects of these proposals.

Forget that the U.S. accounts for around 15 percent of global manmade greenhouse gas emissions (U.S./world) today, and China and other developing countries cancel out U.S. emission reductions with new coal capacity by the week. Forget that climate policy today cannot change climate for decades given physics. Consumers are refuting climate policy by the day, with increasing GHG concentrations reducing the warming effect of future emissions per metric ton.

Wishful Thinking

As one might expect, EPA does not entertain the idea that their proposed regulations could devastate US power grids. The reason is that the EPA models assume that replacement generation will always be built to replace shuttered coal and natural gas power generation. This was pointed out during the EPA public hearings by Michelle Bloodworth, the President and CEO of America’s Power:

EPA’s modeling concluded that it would not cause any resource inadequacy. However, EPA’s model is designed to never project resource inadequacy because the model simply adds replacement capacity to offset retiring capacity regardless of whether this new replacement capacity would actually be built in the real world and provide the same accredited capacity value and reliability attributes as the coal fleet, such as fuel security.

If EPA’s assumptions about replacement power generation are incorrect, what is the fallback plan? Well, there isn’t one. As the coal-fired and natural-gas-fired generation is shuttered because it doesn’t meet the new standards, there is no guarantee that sufficient replacement generation will be built. EPA penalties will make the new generation uneconomic. The US could face inadequate and unreliable power generation sooner rather than later.

EPA model’s built-in assumption that sufficient new natural gas generation will always be built is due to their additional assumption that carbon capture and storage and hydrogen co-firing will be used to offset the carbon emissions. In the EPA’s May 11, 2023, announcement about their proposed new standards for coal and natural gas-fired power plants, EPA Administrator Michael Regan said:

By proposing new standards for fossil fuel-fired power plants, EPA is delivering on its mission to reduce harmful pollution that threatens people’s health and wellbeing.

EPA’s proposal relies on proven, readily available technologies to limit carbon pollution and seizes the momentum already underway in the power sector to move toward a cleaner future. Alongside historic investment taking place across America in clean energy manufacturing and deployment, these proposals will help deliver tremendous benefits to the American people—cutting climate pollution and other harmful pollutants, protecting people’s health, and driving American innovation.

One can only puzzle how Mr. Regan and the EPA can assert that carbon capture and storage and hydrogen co-firing are “proven, readily available technologies.” These technologies have been hyped as “the next big thing” for some years, but they have not yet been proven technologically capable or economically feasible at an industrial level.

It is also important to note that literally every person that provided testimony in support of EPA’s proposed rules and regulations at the recent hearings was adamantly against carbon capture and storage and hydrogen co-firing. The same people that want to shut down all fossil fuel power generation do not support CCS or hydrogen co-firing. Since EPA listens to and responds to these people and the anti-fossil fuel NGOs, it is unlikely that EPA’s support for these technologies will continue.

Senator Chuck Grassley expressed this sentiment in a letter he wrote EPA administrator Michael Regan on June 27, 2023, pointing out the dangerous implications of EPA’s proposed Power Plant Rule:

The proposed Power Plant Rule seeks to regulate gas emissions from fossil fuel-fired electric generating units under the authority of the Clean Air Act. This rule would set new caps on emissions for power plant operators making it more expensive to produce electricity.

The rule would require most gas and coal-fired power plants in operation to cut their carbon-dioxide emission by 90 percent by 2040 or shut down. Most of our 3,400 natural gas and coal plants would be affected by this rule, which is roughly 25 percent of the country’s greenhouse gas emissions. The rule also discourages the construction of new, gas-fired plants by imposing expensive, new standards.

Our current dependency on these fossil fuel plants is substantial. As recent as 2022, U.S. Energy Information Administration figures show fossil fuels accounted for more than 60% of our electricity generation, with 60% of that amount coming from gas and 40% from coal.

Renewables, on the other hand, accounted for only 21.5%, with nuclear energy making up the rest. The U.S. relies heavily on power plants to fuel Americans’ homes, businesses, and even their cars. If the proposed rule targeting power plants is finalized the price of electricity will increase due to the burden it would place on the energy providers.

Senator Grassley also focused on the EPA’s incorrect and dangerous assumptions about carbon capture (emphasis added):

The proposed rule may not be workable due to a lack of available technology. The rule implies the wide use of new, carbon capture technology as a method to reduce emissions being released into the atmosphere. Despite the EPA’s analysis, there’s concern that the carbon capture technology is not yet technically, and fully, economically demonstrated for large scale use. Because of that, the regulations could force coal and gas-fired power plants to shut down and leave the grid vulnerable to blackouts, more expensive to operate, and subject to long-term consequences.

Put simply, the Power Plant Rule, proposed by the EPA, will decrease our ability to rely on our power grid because of challenges to cost and output. The power plants that cannot reduce their emissions enough to meet the standards will close, taking power offline and reducing the reliability of our grid.

Senator Grassley criticizes EPA for simultaneously promoting another set of regulations he calls “The Electric Vehicle Rule,” which would increase dependency on the power grid. At the same time, “The Power Plant Rule” would limit the ability of the power grid to generate sufficient electricity. The entire letter is worth reading and hopefully signals that the legislative branch observes what EPA proposes. We will look forward to reading EPA’s response.

What’s Next?

It is reassuring to see that Senator Grassley notified the EPA that he and other members of Congress are watching the EPA’s activities and can expect to be subjected to questions and even hearings. Unfortunately, none of that will likely stop the EPA from doing what it said. If EPA does issue final rules, lawsuits will be filed immediately, with some or one of those lawsuits ending up at the Supreme Court.

Fortunately, there is a precedent Supreme ruling that should apply. The court case, West Virginia vs. EPA led to the Supreme Court decision centered on the Clean Power Plan (CCP) proposed by the EPA by the Obama administration. On June 30, 2022, the Supreme Court ruled that regulating existing power plants fell under the major questions doctrine. Within that, Congress did not grant the EPA authority to regulate emissions from existing plants. The Heritage Foundation provided this summary of the Supreme Court ruling:

  1. The Supreme Court shut down the ability of the EPA to completely reengineer Americans’ sources of electricity around a radical climate agenda.
  2. The EPA put itself squarely in a position to set energy and economic policy under the guise of environmental policy while enjoying nearly unfettered power to do so.
  3. The court rightly determined that the EPA far exceeded its role by creating an authority for itself out of thin air to regulate the electricity sector.

In short, the Supreme Court shut down the ability of the Environmental Protection Agency to completely reengineer Americans’ sources of electricity around a radical climate agenda based on the agency’s expansive interpretation of a narrow provision in the Clean Air Act.

In doing so, the Supreme Court has made it harder for other regulatory agencies to get away with similar power grabs.

It is hard to imagine that the Supreme Court will rule differently than it did with the Clean Power Plan of 2015, but lawsuits must work their way through the courts. Hopefully, the Court will be able to rule soon after the EPA finalizes its second attempt to exceed its authority and spare the U.S. from the potentially severe impacts of the EPA’s flawed proposed rules and regulations.

In the meantime, just the possibility that EPA will enact such sweeping regulations will slow investment in new power generation that all U.S. power grids need. Recent grid warnings about possible outages this summer will likely continue into the winter while potential new-generation projects proceed cautiously.

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strativarius
October 12, 2023 3:03 am

“Electric Grid Reliability”

We will soon be telling our grandchildren what life was like when you could switch things on and off at will with no worries. When we had a better life…..

In its own way I’m sure the US is no less loony than the UK; which isn’t arguing about the merits, or even the possibility, of net zero; merely the time-frame getting there.

The standout reaction of the church of climate change and latter day weasels was a total freak out when the UK put its targets for vehicle bans in line with the EU – we just left.

The green absolutists are going to need more than absolution.

Ron Long
October 12, 2023 3:05 am

So, the Biden Administration’s weaponized EPA wants to cripple US energy supply, and drive up cost, and induce rolling blackouts, while not only allowing China to offset any “greenhouse gas” reduction, but also buying the unreliable solar panels from them, some constructed with slave labor, and the point is made once again: ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. I hope those who voted for this suffer the most.

William Howard
Reply to  Ron Long
October 12, 2023 6:08 am

As do bribes – China is getting a huge pay back from Joe

mleskovarsocalrrcom
Reply to  William Howard
October 12, 2023 8:12 am

More likely vice versa.

Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
October 12, 2023 8:07 pm

Wasnt it Trump glad handing his buddys Xi Putin Kim

Drake
Reply to  Duker
October 14, 2023 3:50 am

The stupidity, it burns.

Reply to  Ron Long
October 12, 2023 6:33 am

‘I hope those who voted for this suffer the most.’

I doubt they will. But even if they suffer equally in a physical or economic sense, the Left will prosper psychologically from witnessing the achievement of their goals.

morton
Reply to  Ron Long
October 12, 2023 3:08 pm

dare you say the dreaded “T” word…

RMoore
October 12, 2023 3:21 am

Will the upcoming annular solar eclipse have an impact on the electric grid in Texas that can be modeled ahead of time and compared to the actual impact? I guess it depends on cloud cover that day.

MarkW
Reply to  RMoore
October 12, 2023 7:17 am

I doubt that demand will shrink as fast as power generated by the solar arrays does.

October 12, 2023 3:34 am

“As the coal-fired and natural-gas-fired generation is shuttered because it doesn’t meet the new standards, there is no guarantee that sufficient replacement generation will be built.”

It’s bad enough that they are shuttered. They should be mothballed to allow restarting if needed. But here in Wokeachusetts and probably in many other places- as soon as it’s shuttered, they tear down the smokestack and have a big party when doing it to celebrate one more victory in saving the planet.

October 12, 2023 3:52 am

The increased concentrations of GHGs in the atmosphere and the resulting warming have led to more frequent and more intense heat waves and extreme weather events, rising sea levels, and retreating snow and ice, all of which are occurring at a pace and scale that threatens human welfare.”

No. Here is the table of Arctic sea ice volume estimates posted by the Polar Science Center, through September 2023. Every month in 2022 and to date in 2023 gives a value higher than 2011.

https://psc.apl.uw.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/schweiger/ice_volume/PIOMAS.2sst.monthly.Current.v2.1.txt

I have been plotting these values by month. Please see the attached image, in which September is shown in bold black.

What caused the deceleration of ice volume loss? This is just one example to show that the EPA’s attribution of climate trends to GHGs is unsound.

piomas_monthly_101023.jpg
strativarius
Reply to  David Dibbell
October 12, 2023 4:06 am

more intense heat waves and extreme weather events, rising sea levels, and retreating snow and ice,”

As the Pope has told us, the gods are angry with us.

Reply to  strativarius
October 12, 2023 12:56 pm

Retreating snow and ice is a good thing! Hardly anything can live on snow and ice.

observa
October 12, 2023 4:12 am

In the meantime, just the possibility that EPA will enact such sweeping regulations will slow investment in new power generation that all U.S. power grids need.

Well if at first you don’t succeed in exceeding your remit tie tie them up in the Courts again so the existing reliables wear out with no replacements. What’s a bunch of true believer taxeaters got to lose?

MarkW
Reply to  observa
October 12, 2023 7:19 am

“taxeaters”

Cute, but I prefer parasites, it’s more accurate.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
October 12, 2023 7:21 am

On one side we have the producers, people who make stuff or who are living on what they produced in the past.
On the other side we have the parasites, people who have never done anything worthwhile in their lives, but believe they have a right to demand that other people take care of them anyway.

Reply to  MarkW
October 12, 2023 9:03 am

Mark,
Tax eaters and parasites have just one source/host for sustenance, but “all-around suckers” covers all the bases

Reply to  wilpost
October 12, 2023 9:06 am

And pay for their sex-change operation, and pay off their student basketweaving loan, and if you do not pay, they set your car and house on fire.

trsimonson
Reply to  MarkW
October 12, 2023 11:50 am

Ayn Rand called them looters in “Atlas Shrugged”. She didn’t foresee the climate hoax, but was prophetic in many other ways!

Drake
Reply to  trsimonson
October 14, 2023 3:57 am

I don’t think prophetic is right, she was writing about the times she was living in, crony capitalism and dictatorial governments are always the same.

There were times when new governments cleaned house of the old cronies, many Roman emperors did so. THAT is how an empire can a thousands of years.

Editor
October 12, 2023 4:28 am

Hello EPA, are you listening – please explain how “retreating snow and ice” “threatens human welfare”. No food for humans grows in snow and ice. Without heating, humans die in snow and ice Retreating snow and ice has already uncovered evidence of plant and human life back in snow-free ice-free times, in places where no plants or humans lived once the snow and ice covered them. The entire Arctic food chain is thriving thanks to the slightly higher temperatures over the last few decades. NASA states that the observed significant increase in global plant cover over the last few decades is partly due to warmer temperatures (though they do say that the major factor is increased CO2). Everywhere you look, things are getting better, not worse. There is no evidence of any threat to human welfare.

EPA, you would do everyone a huge favour if you came clean and admitted that this notion of threats to human welfare is based on climate models using the utterly unrealistic RCP8.5 and is not supported by any actual evidence.

strativarius
Reply to  Mike Jonas
October 12, 2023 4:46 am

how “retreating snow and ice” “threatens human welfare””[?]

Duh. It’s a change in the status quo.

MarkW
Reply to  Mike Jonas
October 12, 2023 7:24 am

A true environmentalist doesn’t care about human welfare. They view humans as a plague on the planet.
A true environmentalist believes that any change to the planet, no matter how small or insignificant is the only true evil in the world and must be fought and eventually reversed, in order to return the planet to a divine state of purity that it existed in prior to the human contamination.

Reply to  MarkW
October 12, 2023 9:19 am

If something is a heavily subsidized, officially approved climate solution, no environmental damage matters, and no environmentalist utters a peep; they all have the same kumbaya vibe

But, if it is a NEW nuclear plant, with an EROI of 75, operating at 90% capacity factor for 80 years, then it is to be harangued, vilified, etc., until it is DEAD, DEAD, DEAD.

Offshore Wind is an Economic and Environmental Catastrophe
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/offshore-wind-is-an-economic-and-environmental-catastrophe

Four NY offshore projects ask for almost 50% price rise
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/four-ny-offshore-projects-ask-for-almost-50-price-rise

IRENA, a Renewables Proponent, Ignores the Actual Cost Data for Offshore Wind Systems in the UK
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/irena-a-european-renewables-proponent-ignores-the-actual-cost

vboring
October 12, 2023 4:53 am

Whether CCS technology works or not, ask the EPA how many CO2 sequestration permits they have issued for power plants.

It’s a big fat zero. Plenty of applications, no permits.

CO2 has been safely stored in geology for decades. O&G use injections of natural CO2 to extract extra oil from wells. All permitted and perfectly safe.

The Obama EPA invented a fiction called “anthropogenic CO2” and created new, far stricter regulations for it’s geologic storage. Then promptly refused to issue permits for this fiction.

They’re a pathological bag of assholes hell bent on destroying fossil fuels. End of story.

Reply to  vboring
October 12, 2023 5:50 am

Hell bent on destroying western civilization and capitalism is more to the point.

Reply to  vboring
October 12, 2023 12:28 pm

‘CO2 has been safely stored in geology for decades.’

At least as far back as the Carboniferous.

October 12, 2023 5:07 am

From the article: “These proposals focus on reducing the emissions of GHGs from the power sector. The increasing concentrations of GHGs in the atmosphere are, and have been, warming the planet, resulting in serious and life-threatening environmental and human health impacts. The increased concentrations of GHGs in the atmosphere and the resulting warming have led to more frequent and more intense heat waves and extreme weather events, rising sea levels, and retreating snow and ice, all of which are occurring at a pace and scale that threatens human welfare.”

The EPA is blatantly lying to the American public. None of what they say above about CO2 has been established as facts. This is pure speculation masquerading as facts. Lies, in other words.

There is no evidence CO2 is warming the planet. There is the possibility that CO2 is actually net cooling the planet after feedbacks are figured in. And there *is* evidence that extreme weather events are no worse today than they were in the past, so no connection to increased CO2 levels.

Congress needs to step in and prevent the EPA from destroying our electrical grids.

October 12, 2023 5:37 am

Story Tip:

To what extent are temperature levels changing due to greenhouse gas emissions?

Discussion Papers: comprise research papers intended for international journals or books. A preprint of a Discussion Paper may be longer and more elaborate than a standard journal article, as it may include intermediate calculations and background material etc.
The Discussion Papers series presents results from ongoing research projects and other research and analysis by SSB staff. The views and conclusions in this document are those of the authors.

Interesting conclusion, to find at page 26

Further analysis about

Tom Halla
October 12, 2023 5:55 am

Despite the EPA losing their efforts to impose The Clean Power Plan in the Supreme Court, they are doing so anyway. Massive Resistance is a Democrat tactic, from civil rights to guns to greenhouse gas rules.

Beta Blocker
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 12, 2023 10:08 am

The EPA’s new rule is not a rehash of the Clean Power Plan. It is a very different animal than the CPP and is specifically designed to avoid the major questions doctrine. See my further remarks here.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Beta Blocker
October 12, 2023 10:19 am

I did read it, and the EPA is still shaking their fist at the Major Questions Doctrine. Rewording Obama’s Clean Power Plan is still a major issue.

Beta Blocker
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 12, 2023 2:50 pm

Tom Halla: “I did read it, and the EPA is still shaking their fist at the Major Questions Doctrine. Rewording Obama’s Clean Power Plan is still a major issue.”

The new EPA rule does not simply reword the Clean Power Plan. Not by a long shot. It’s a different and far more effective regulatory weapon than was the CPP in its ability to force the shutdown of our legacy fossil-fueled power plants.

When the EPA published its proposed new rule back in the spring of 2023, the staff went into extensive detail as to how the rule would be applied and as to how it would be defended in the courts.

In contrast with the CPP, the new rule uses Section 111 of the Clean Air Act in accordance with its historical application to fixed sources of power plant emissions, those which have been identified as pollutants.

The EPA states that it has clear and final authority under the Clean Air Act to determine what is the best solution for reducing emissions from existing and new coal-fired and gas-fired power plants. The EPA staff has identified the best solution as being CCS and hydrogen co-firing.

However, the new rule doesn’t say that wind and solar backed by energy storage is the best solution for reducing an existing or new-build fossil fueled power plant’s GHG emissions.

In other words, the EPA isn’t dictating that a particular fossil-fuel power plant be replaced by wind farms and/or solar farms located either on site or somewhere else. To do so would risk the proper invocation of the major questions doctrine by a litigant.

When a lawsuit is filed which cites the major questions doctrine as a reason for overturning the rule, the EPA will make these arguments:

— The EPA has clear authority under the law and under past court decisions to regulate CO2 and other GHGs as pollutuants. The EPA also has clear authority under Clean Air Act Section 111 to determine what is the best means of reducing a specific legacy or new-build power plant’s carbon emissions, using its own independent analysis as the basis for its determination.

— The EPA’s new rule isn’t dictating that wind and solar replace a legacy fossil-fueled power plant’s output, or that wind & solar be used in lieu of fossil power for a proposed new-build power plant. To do so would be a clear violation of the major questions doctrine.

— A power plant owner and operator has the option of suggesting an alternative to CCS and/or hydrogen co-firing as a means of reducing the plant’s GHG emissions. If the alternative technology being suggested can’t meet the EPA’s emission limits, and if the owner/operator can’t or won’t implement CCS and/or hydrogen co-firing, the only option left to them is to shut the legacy plant down, or not to build the new one as a coal-fired or gas-fired power plant.

This is how the EPA will deal with the major questions doctrine. However, let’s ask a different but somewhat related question — what will happen if the EPA’s technical determination that CCS and hydrogen co-firing are best means for reducing a power plant’s GHG emissions is challenged in the courts?

What will happen then is that the EPA will staunchly defend all technical and analytical facets of their determination, working under the assumption that the courts are far more likely to accept the EPA’s analysis than they are to accept the owner/operator’s analysis.

My personal opinion is that the only way to stop the progressive shutdown of America’s legacy power generation and distribution systems is for the voters to remove the current occupants of our energy policy making agencies.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Beta Blocker
October 12, 2023 2:57 pm

The Supreme Court was in error with the Endangerment Ruling.

Beta Blocker
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 12, 2023 10:11 pm

So it was. But at this point, that the SCOTUS ruling was in error is neither here nor there. The EPA’s Endangerment Finding still stands and the only practical means of getting rid of it is for a newly elected administration to revoke the finding as part of broadscope anti-bureaucracy housecleaning attack against the EPA’s current regulatory power and authority.

William Howard
October 12, 2023 6:13 am

If you want to see our future just look at Germany today -;in Germany electricity is considered to be a luxury and not affordable by many – Germans pay 3-5x what Americans pay – Germany Is de-industrializing due to expensive power which is eliminating tens of thousands of jobs

MarkW
October 12, 2023 7:14 am

its goal is to limit climate change (page 33243):

page 33243???? Just how big is this document?

The increasing concentrations of GHGs in the atmosphere are, and have been, warming the planet, resulting in serious and life-threatening environmental and human health impacts.

Where? I don’t see anything that hasn’t happened before many times during the last few hundred years.

Lee Riffee
October 12, 2023 7:53 am

Idiots at the EPA are clearly not thinking far enough ahead with regards to the eventual results of their draconian rules. Obviously either they don’t think there will be blackouts (some other magical source of energy will come on line very soon) or they don’t care. But there will be other consequences of blackouts and grid failure that will create more actual pollution (and I don’t mean CO2). Right now many homes and businesses have generators, all powered by various fossil fuels. And those lack the tight emission controls that have been forced on power plants over the years.
In a nutshell, when the power goes out, people fire up generators. And essentials (like hospitals) will be forced to run them more often. This means more, not less pollution. Way to go EPA!

Attacking a non-problem could create an actual problem….

Beta Blocker
Reply to  Lee Riffee
October 12, 2023 10:14 am

The EPA’s priority is to support the Biden administration’s transformation of America into a socialist nation. The EPA’s staff is in fact thinking very far ahead in designing their new rule as one more tool for enabling Biden’s social transformation agenda. See my remarks here.

Reply to  Beta Blocker
October 12, 2023 8:19 pm

Yawn… how do you think the power grid was mostly created in the first place .
Socialism with federal and public utilities. Rural areas especially werent so attractive so the Rural Electricity Administration was formed to fund those rural cooperatives.

Kevin Kilty
October 12, 2023 7:54 am

If people can get off their behinds and look at local general rate cases at their PSC or PUC, they may find that the utilities are asking for large rate increases (20-30% commonly across the country), and these increases are justified by appealing to increasing fuel costs. This is nothing but misdirection. It’s innuendo in many cases to make fossil fuels the villain.

Look at EIA statistics and one will find that there was a sharp spike in natural gas prices caused by the Ukraine war, but those prices are now back down to where they were in 2021. Coal prices are pretty much flat for many years because of declining demand. Fuel costs are not up 40-90%.

Read the documents in support of these rate increases and one will find that net power costs (NPC) are only one of the factors involved. NPC is more than fuel prices. It includes changing the way that power is generated. The other big factor is new investment needed for solar and wind plants, repowering wind plants, and new transmission lines needed because of solar and wind. One might also be aware that some utilities have become bloated with workforces hired to help with the energy transition but which haven’t helped make the transition at all.

At some point utilities have to be made to sleep in the bed they made. If a utility has made unwise decisions about employment, investment, and abandonment of working assets, then those costs should be on the shareholders. Otherwise there is no market discipline that can be exerted by the PSC and the utilities will have a claim against anything the public can be made to pay.

Beta Blocker
Reply to  Kevin Kilty
October 12, 2023 10:17 am

One of several objectives of the new rule is to give talking point ammunition to climate activist NGOs when these groups are opposing regulatory permit approval of new-build coal-fired or gas-fired power plants, and/or the renewal of existing regulatory permits for legacy plants. See my remarks here.

Reply to  Kevin Kilty
October 12, 2023 8:49 pm

The spike in prices was not caused by the war.

Neo
October 12, 2023 8:00 am

On June 30, 2022, the Supreme Court ruled that regulating existing power plants fell under the major questions doctrine.

I’ve read that the “Anti-Inflation Act”, that doesn’t actually reduce inflation, has language to allow the EPA to proceed.

Beta Blocker
Reply to  Neo
October 12, 2023 10:20 am

The Inflation Reduction Act has language in at least eight different places which can be construed to authorize the EPA to regulate carbon emissions as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act. That the IRA contains this language is not an accident.

Ancient Wrench
October 12, 2023 9:14 am

To the Biden Administration, one of the benefits of this rule would be to destabilize the Texas power grid and thus punish its political opponents.

Reply to  Ancient Wrench
October 12, 2023 8:14 pm

More likely to be California as they have been down this path for some time

Beta Blocker
October 12, 2023 9:32 am

Summarizing my previous WUWT commentaries on the EPA’s latest power plant emissions rule:

— The new EPA rule takes a different technical, strategic, and tactical approach than did Obama’s Clean Power Plan from 2013. The new approach is much more likely to survive litigation in the courts.

— The new approach avoids the major questions doctrine as was applied in West Virginia versus EPA by not stipulating directly that wind & solar backed by energy storage is the best available technology for achieving emissions reduction.

— The EPA staff knows full well that carbon capture & storage (CCS) and hydrogen co-firing are not economically viable emission reduction technologies in real-world power plant application. Lack of true commercial viability is an intended feature of their new rule, not a bug. 

— The use of CCS and hydrogen co-firing as the best available emissions reduction technology under Section 111 of the Clean Air Act is a regulatory lawfare tactic consciously designed to spawn much time-consuming and expensive litigation in the courts.

— The prospect of extended litigation in the courts, litigation whose outcome is far from certain, is a fundamental element of the EPA’s new rule in that the rule greatly increases the financial risks of any new investments made in advanced coal-fired and gas-fired power technology.

— The plan is designed to give talking point ammunition to climate activist NGOs when these groups are opposing regulatory permit approval of new-build coal-fired or gas-fired power plants, and/or the renewal of existing regulatory permits for legacy plants.

Obama’s EPA wasn’t truly committed to establishing an effective carbon emission reduction strategy in that 2013’s Clean Power Plan was guaranteed to fail in the courts. The CPP was mostly a means of gaining virtue-signaling political support from the environmental activist community.

The Biden EPA’s 2023 carbon emission rule is a very different animal. There is every prospect it will be effective in preventing the construction of new technology coal-fired and gas-fired power plants and in systematically forcing the closure of many if not most of our legacy fossil-fueled plants.

The new rule is designed to be inherently more resistant to litigation than was the Clean Power Plan, thus increasing the regulatory uncertainties and the financial risks of continuing to rely of fossil-fueled generation.

Regulatory uncertainty and its associated financial risks are further amplified by the Biden Administration’s unequivocal and publicly stated position that it will ignore any decisions handed down by the courts adverse to its Net Zero agenda.

Here is the bottom line. Any opponents of Biden’s anti-carbon policies who are looking to West Virginia versus EPA specifically, and to court litigation in general, as their response to the new EPA rule must look elsewhere for salvation.

ppenrose
October 12, 2023 10:06 am

As soon as someone says “carbon pollution”, I know it’s just political posturing and virtue signaling. They either don’t know what they are talking about, or they are intentionally being deceptive. Either way, I assign zero value to their ramblings of the subject at hand.

October 12, 2023 10:29 am

grids have failed before, nothing new here. just alarmist rantings about the sky falling,

Hint: if you can read this post, your power is fine

Reply to  Steven Mosher
October 12, 2023 8:13 pm

Im sure somewhere , the lights are out .

Its the peak hours, twice a day and the peak months twice a year where reliability matters.

Plus the little old thing that power is consumed in the nearly instantaneous moments after its created, and the backbone grid, if it isnt balanced then it will shut everything- a total blackout , maybe requiring a cold system restart some days later.
Hello North Korea or south Australia and almost the case in Texas- for many it was a total blackout.

Reply to  Steven Mosher
October 13, 2023 3:59 am

The battery on my tablet is OK until it runs out at least. And I hope the router isn’t relying on the UPS.

Bob
October 12, 2023 12:17 pm

The EPA has outlived its usefulness. It should be shut down and starting this year the three most recent EPA rules should be scrapped. We will scrap three rules every year until it can be positively proven that scrapping a rule causes more harm than keeping it. We should be able to scrap almost all rulings from the last thirty years maybe more.

October 12, 2023 12:54 pm

The Earth is still in a 2.56 million-year ice age named the Quaternary Glaciation in a still cold interglacial period between glacial periods. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation

This recent study shows that the cold weather we have every year causes about 4.6 million deaths per year globally mainly through increased strokes and heart attacks, compared with about 500,000 deaths a year from hot weather. We can’t easily protect our lungs from the cold air in the winter and that causes our blood vessels to constrict causing blood pressure to increase leading to heart attacks and strokes.
‘Global, regional and national burden of mortality associated with nonoptimal ambient temperatures from 2000 to 2019: a three-stage modelling study’
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext