Greenland’s Summer Ice Melt Delayed


By Paul Homewood

The weather across the UK has been dominated by high pressure all month so far. But where there is high pressure, there is always low pressure elsewhere.

And that low pressure has been stuck over Greenland.

Of course, this is all just weather, just as in 2012, when high pressure brought sunny weather to Greenland and a lot of ice melt, while here we had that notoriously wet summer.

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June 17, 2023 3:02 am

“The weather across the UK has been…”

Disappointing to say the least. 

Oh yes, it’s been absoluely fabulous for us mere ice-cream/beer and summer loving good time types, but for the meteo-elites 27C to 30C is really nowhere near [frightening] enough as an encore to the holy two days of 40C in 2022, and the subsequent wall to wall hype.

This year’s weathermap colours are deep reds and crimsons – even for 22C. I almost threw something at the television the other evening, it [BBC Weather] was that pathetic. It’s hockey schtick stuff and that’s all we can look forward to, it seems.

Greenland doesn’t get a mention

Rich Davis
Reply to  strativarius
June 17, 2023 3:38 am

Four days before the solstice and already we’re sweltering in 15C weather here in New England!

Where does this all end?

Reply to  Rich Davis
June 17, 2023 3:39 am

When Satan starts skating to work….

Reply to  strativarius
June 17, 2023 5:24 am

Hell of a skater, I bet.

Reply to  Scissor
June 17, 2023 5:28 am

He’ll need to be…

Reply to  Rich Davis
June 17, 2023 6:03 am

Not for awhile according to the weather models.

Reply to  Rich Davis
June 17, 2023 8:46 am

Meanwhile down in the Panhandle and East Texas they have about 100,000 without power and 100 deg. F temps. THAT is “Climate Change” while near record low temps and snow in the mountains in the NW US and much colder than normal temps in New England and Mt. Washington setting a new June record for snow less than half way through the month, is just weather.

Reply to  rah
June 17, 2023 6:39 pm

In the Pacific Northwest we will have below normal daytime highs in the mid-60s F the first few days of this coming week.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  strativarius
June 17, 2023 4:50 am

It doesn’t need to reach 22ºC anymore.. Thursday’s forecast for Friday:

Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
June 17, 2023 5:05 am

In future I will stream and not consume terrestrial TV

For my sanity’s sake.

Richard Page
Reply to  strativarius
June 17, 2023 3:55 pm

Hey it’s sanity clause.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
June 17, 2023 6:53 am

Even the weather bimbo has to wear red?

Reply to  Rich Davis
June 17, 2023 7:53 am

Color options are somewhat limited as you can’t wear green when using a green screen. Blue/purple might conflict with water and yellow is not a good color for many. Black and white are formal and a bit boring to wear every day. Orange is also another color used on the weather maps.
Maybe we should go back to Black and White for weather forecasts. It would sure make color selection easer.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  strativarius
June 17, 2023 5:24 pm

G’Day strativarius,

I almost threw something at the television…”

Time to reintroduce the “TV Brick.” The shape and size of a regular house brick, but made from red flexible foam. 1970’s in the US. The patent has probably expired.

Reply to  Tombstone Gabby
June 18, 2023 1:14 am

G’day Gabby

Neat idea!

Ron Long
June 17, 2023 3:16 am

Looks like the meme “cold is weather and hot is climate change” is alive and well. Watch Algore in action, being played endlessly on Bloomberg TV, and you see the theme mindlessly repeated, while Algore looks alive but not well.

Reply to  Ron Long
June 17, 2023 3:18 am

“”cold is weather and hot is climate change””

Spot on

Rich Davis
Reply to  Ron Long
June 17, 2023 3:50 am

At 75, Algore is superannuated. The typical birch tree only lives for 40-50 years.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rich Davis
June 17, 2023 4:27 am

Al Gore appears more unhinged every time I see him.

Fanatics are like that.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 17, 2023 5:28 am


Rich Davis
Reply to  Scissor
June 17, 2023 8:37 am
Reply to  Rich Davis
June 17, 2023 4:28 am

Birch trees can be useful….

Reply to  Rich Davis
June 17, 2023 6:10 am

Algore needs a good birching !!

Bryan A
Reply to  Rich Davis
June 17, 2023 6:54 am

Yeah but Algore is only a Son of a Birch

Ron Long
Reply to  Bryan A
June 17, 2023 10:21 am

His ex-wife called him a “sex poodle”. I have no idea what that means.

Reply to  Ron Long
June 18, 2023 4:06 am

It means he’s a miniature

Rich Davis
Reply to  Ron Long
June 18, 2023 7:39 am

Crazed sex poodle IIRC.

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Rich Davis
June 17, 2023 3:34 am

The first and second charts appear to be the same?

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Rich Davis
June 17, 2023 4:58 am

They are but from different pages on DMI. The first is daily mass gain/loss and goes with the map above where losses and gains occurred that day.
The second is the same daily chart but goes with the acculturation chart below it.
If you click on the link you’ll see that the DMI has five tabs for various things like accumulation, melt, snow lines.
If you click on the black circle PROMICE links you will see data from automatic weather stations. They have had issues with the link but it seems OK today

June 17, 2023 3:35 am

Damn weather is always messing with the climate.

Tom Abbott
June 17, 2023 4:24 am

From the article: “Of course, this is all just weather”

That’s right. There is no connection between CO2 and high and low pressure systems.

June 17, 2023 4:43 am

As mentioned in the article, the Greenland ice accumulation/loss really is more to do with the high and low system’s placement over the seasons than temperature, primarily because it’s pretty much always cold there with the exceptions of the coast and southern areas in the few summer months.

In other news, per the National Snow and Ice Data Center, you have to go all the way back to 2014 to have more Arctic sea ice extent than on this day. We also have an unusually strong jet stream tracking much farther south along the Gulf Coast keeping the eastern part of the US much cooler than normal. What it all means who exactly knows, but it certainly isn’t bringing the heat Armageddon forecast by the high priests of the climate cult.

June 17, 2023 5:24 am

Yah but the more ice accumulates the more it will melt ->
It’s worse than we thought !

June 17, 2023 5:58 am

Not to worry. The alarmists will still have GRACE “data” to show that it’s still melting and NYC will be underwater any time.

Here is what you get when Vanity Fair tries to get into science like stuff courtesy of Tony Heller.

Caleb Shaw
June 17, 2023 7:59 am


You are not suppose to say, “Of course, this is all just weather…” Instead you are suppose to work readers (and yourself) into a tizzy.

First you have to explain a gigaton weighs more than 100 million African Elephants, and we are talking about a lot more than a single gigaton here. The graph shows we gained 50 gigatons at a time of year when the ice usually is melting. (Cue scary background music).

Then explain that, because more snow falls than melts every year, the only way Greenland can achieve balance is to calve icebergs from it’s glaciers. (Cue film of massive iceberg calving from glacier).

Then explain that, with 50 extra gigatons, the only way to achieve balance is to calve 50 gigatons of extra ice. (Cue very anxious scientist, saying “That is like five billion African Elephants!”)

Lastly, state that maybe, perhaps, extra sea-ice in 1817 might have cooled the water and could have contributed to “The Year With No Summer” and maybe caused famine in Western Europe. (Cue anxious scientist nodding.)

Only too glad to be helpful.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
June 17, 2023 9:14 am

Washington State’s Cascades are supposed to get snow and the 14,000 ft. Mt. Rainier will get whitened. I’m leeward, so not much precipitation but the cold is unseasonable. Seems more like early spring.
A day ago, the post was about pumping ground water and Mother Gaia wobbling a bit like a figure skater in a sloppy upright spin. Summer will catch up about mid-July.

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  John Hultquist
June 17, 2023 9:30 am

It’s interesting in the northeast Pacific. Temperatures will remain below average.
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Bruce Cobb
June 17, 2023 12:12 pm

Here in the Northeast, Mt. Washington has set a record for June snow – over 8″, and it has been cool and rainy.

June 17, 2023 3:45 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like the 1981 – 2010 average line on the cumulative ice chart indicates that each year the average gain of ice for Greenland is 400 Gt/year. I never hear that statistic.

Go Home

Caleb Shaw
Reply to  GoHome
June 17, 2023 7:03 pm

There is ice lost by calving glaciers, which is generally assumed to be greater than 400 Gt/year. Not sure how they come up with their numbers.

Caleb Shaw
Reply to  GoHome
June 17, 2023 7:07 pm

Someone will correct me if I’m wrong, but I’ve always assumed the cumulative ice chart adds snowfall and subtracts snow melt, but does not include calving glaciers.

June 17, 2023 9:03 pm

Today, June 17th is the first time I have seen the temp display in my truck or on the storefronts hit 60 Fahrenheit in Anchorage Alaska. Common theme with the commercial salmon fishermen in Prince William Sound is that this is the first summer in their memory when they never turned off their diesel heat in the boat. Has been cold, wet and miserable all spring until today. Somehow, I haven’t seen the endless articles about Alaska weather like I saw when we hit 90 Fahrenheit one day in the summer of 2019 at the station next to the runway at Ted Stevens International airport.

Pat from Kerbob
June 18, 2023 1:50 pm

Just flew over Greenland

Can confirm still lots of snow and ice, no signs of “green”.

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