Skirt Steak at Martiniburger in Tokyo, Japan, Modified. Original by Eliot Bergman (Martiniburger) [CC BY-SA 4.0], via Wikimedia Commons

Princeton Academic: We Should Become Vegans for the Sake of the Planet

Essay by Eric Worrall

“… Those who claim to care about the wellbeing of human beings and the preservation of our climate and our environment should become vegans …”

‘We are gambling with the future of our planet for the sake of hamburgers’: Peter Singer on climate change

Published: June 15, 2023 6.11am AEST
Peter Singer
Professor of Bioethics in the Center for Human Values, Princeton University

I wasn’t aware of climate change until the 1980s — hardly anyone was — and even when we recognised the dire threat that burning fossil fuels posed, it took time for the role of animal production in warming the planet to be understood. 

Today, though, the fact that eating plants will reduce your greenhouse gas emissions is one of the most important and influential reasons for cutting down on animal products and, for those willing to go all the way, becoming vegan.

A few years ago, eating locally — eating only food produced within a defined radius of your home — became the thing for environmentally conscious people to do, to such an extent that “locavore” became the Oxford English Dictionary’s “word of the year” for 2007

If you enjoy getting to know and support your local farmers, of course, eating locally makes sense. But if your aim is, as many local eaters said, to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, you would do much better by thinking about what you are eating, rather than where it comes from. That’s because transport makes up only a tiny share of the greenhouse gas emissions from the production and distribution of food. 

Read more: https://theconversation.com/we-are-gambling-with-the-future-of-our-planet-for-the-sake-of-hamburgers-peter-singer-on-climate-change-207605

I don’t know what the professor is complaining about.

When you think about it we’re all vegans – just some of us let the cows, pigs and sheep pre-process and concentrate the vegetable nutrients before consumption.

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June 16, 2023 10:10 am

The climate cult won’t mandate veganism, but they will tax meat so heavily that ordinary people with ordinary means will be priced out of the market. Those in power will of course continue to jet to their favorite spas and enjoy the full cornucopia that our beautiful green Earth can provide.

KevinM
Reply to  Steve Case
June 16, 2023 10:39 am

Would destroy restaurant industry?

Scissor
Reply to  KevinM
June 16, 2023 10:48 am

Further, what kind of wine goes with bugs?

Oh, so you think they’ll allow you to have wine?

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Scissor
June 16, 2023 11:13 am

Wine fermentation produces CO2–Champaign bubbles bad.

Fran
Reply to  Rud Istvan
June 16, 2023 11:53 am

I am wondering when the CO2 fanatics will go for bakers – yeast is not only in wine?

Reply to  Fran
June 16, 2023 1:27 pm

I am wondering when the CO2 fanatics will go for:

Bakeries
Vintners
Brewers
Distillers
Spooky Stage effects
Fire extinguishers
Zodiac inflatable boats
Refrigerants
You

Reply to  Steve Case
June 16, 2023 3:58 pm

“But if your aim is, as many local eaters said, to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, you would do much better by thinking about what you are eating,”

Does anyone write to these innumerate drones? This kind of pap is actually an instant IQ test on themselves. When a cow eats grass, burps and passes wind, the grass it ate begins to grow back, instantly removing CO² back from the atmosphere. As an added bonus, the cow craps and adds the fertilizer!

When it suits these asterisked professors, they get it. In their minds, it’s perfectly fine to cut down swathes of Canadian boreal forests and the Carolinas’ hardwoods to feed the mechanical bovine gut of the Drax power plant, shipping by truck and ship 4000 fossil fuel km away. At least buying meat and dairy can be done locally.

michael hart
Reply to  Gary Pearse
June 16, 2023 8:17 pm

“When it suits these asterisked professors, they get it.”

Like politicians, their mathematical abilities improve dramatically when it comes to calculating their own salary needs and outcomes.

Tying reward to genuine productivity is, of course, one of the unrealisable holy grails of human endeavor. They just happen to be one of the best examples of how we fail to do so.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Scissor
June 16, 2023 1:42 pm

What kind of wine?
“But Mommy, I don’t want to eat bugs!”

Reply to  Tom in Florida
June 16, 2023 2:43 pm

Can’t smashed bugs be fermented?

michael hart
Reply to  AndyHce
June 16, 2023 8:50 pm

“Can’t smashed bugs be fermented?”

Only if they’ve been grown free-range in an ethically approved environment.

Having said that, I’m not sure where insects come in the vegan hierarchy. Most living vegans were probably not even born when I once searched the early interwebs for sites about cruelty to prawns and lobsters.

I was doing it in an ironic frame of mind, but did actually find a website extolling the unrecognised animal rights of crustaceans in the food industry.

Reply to  Scissor
June 16, 2023 2:11 pm

Something Green.
Romulan Ale or Kool-Aid?

ethical voter
Reply to  Steve Case
June 16, 2023 2:01 pm

Those in power are paid by and put there by the voters. Stupid people. In a democracy you get what you deserve.

Reply to  ethical voter
June 16, 2023 2:44 pm

That may have once been true.

ethical voter
Reply to  AndyHce
June 16, 2023 4:20 pm

If not true now then why? A: People wast their vote on parties and their vassals.

Bryan A
Reply to  Steve Case
June 16, 2023 10:15 pm

OK Princeton, lead the way by example.
Make your campus a Meat Free Zone.
No meat in on campus restaurants… Starting with Roots Steakhouse

Decaf
June 16, 2023 10:11 am

I keep expanding my Climate Truth circle, i.e., the people who now hear about what’s really going on. There aren’t many people, even in my very liberal, crazed town, who care about the climate. And even those who do have only lame things to say.

June 16, 2023 10:14 am

The alarmists are at the tipping point of jumping the shark and boring even their ardent fans to death.

Emissions from food are a small part of human emissions.

Methane emissions are a red herring – inflated “greenhouse potentials” conveniently ignore that it quickly oxidizes in the atmosphere to just CO2 and water.

Water is the biggest and best greenhouse gas – good luck getting rid of that.

And as I sit here in 10°C below normal June weather – what on the hell is wrong with a warmer Earth??? Even the 5 or so degrees from warmunists’ nightmares would still be colder than peak-biosphere.

KevinM
Reply to  PCman999
June 16, 2023 10:41 am

The alarmists are at the tipping point of jumping the shark and boring even their ardent fans to death.

The middle bowed out a decade or more ago?

Reply to  KevinM
June 16, 2023 12:00 pm

I wish I could believe that – it seems gov’t, academia, and of course the media are all totally brainwashed and radicalized into the green stupidity: most of the climate action would actually hurt the environment and some easy to get rid of co2 (if co2 was a bad thing) like ocean fertilization is not allowed “a priori”. Their ideas don’t make sense even if there was a climate emergency – and those actions will cause a humanitarian emergency!

MarkW
Reply to  PCman999
June 16, 2023 10:45 am

Even before methane oxidizes, it’s absorption lines almost completely overlap with water.

Where methane doesn’t overlap water, there is not much energy to capture anyway.

Ron Long
June 16, 2023 10:26 am

“We should become vegans for the sake of the planet.” Go for it. I like salmon, is that OK?

Old Man
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 16, 2023 7:09 pm

Good post, Gunga Din! Is this not the guy who advocates for animal rights equal to human ones? Is he the “Peter Singer” who wanted to limitthe world’s human population for various reasons?

Strange fellow.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Old Man
June 17, 2023 10:53 am

The correct term would be evil not strange.

JamesB_684
June 16, 2023 10:36 am

100 grams of chicken provides the protein of 400 grams of beans, with a lot less gas and a lot less chewing.

I don’t have the time or inclination to ameliorate the anxiety of people worried about an imaginary problem.

Reply to  JamesB_684
June 16, 2023 12:03 pm

Good point! While those 400 grams of beans have to be grown on good farm land, chickens can be raised anywhere and don’t have to be fed human grade grains or whatever.

Reply to  JamesB_684
June 16, 2023 3:05 pm

Legume challenged here.
Akin to a severe lactose intolerance which I also have.

I live on acres, chickens, ducks, geese, turkeys, cattle are all doable here. In the past we’ve raised rabbits, ducks, pheasants and quail.

Quail are good for apartment dwellers. They’re amongst the cleanest of birds and quiet. A couple of cubic feet of cage and nest boxes is all they need for living space.

When we provided chickens for a teacher’s grade school project, we ended up with well grown chicks over the holidays. Those chicks managed to cover all four walls of the room their cage was in with chicken scat and food debris.

Besides, chickens are harvested around 6 weeks of age for fryers and 8 weeks for baking chickens. Any older and soup becomes preferable.

old cocky
Reply to  JamesB_684
June 16, 2023 3:24 pm

The SI of the Ivanovich et al paper discussed in late April (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-023-01605-8) has kg of CO2, CH4 and N2O emissions per kg of a number of food sources. Concentrating on CH4, we have:

beef – 1.2kg CH4/kg
mutton – 0.55kg CH4/kg
pig meat – 0.083 kg CH4/kg
poultry – 0.014 kg CH4/kg
rice – 0.11 kg CH4/kg
beans – 0.0032 kg CH4/kg

So, poultry and beans have roughly equivalent CH4 emissions as regards protein.

John Hultquist
Reply to  JamesB_684
June 16, 2023 9:05 pm

Chickens like bugs. Win-win!

MarkW
June 16, 2023 10:37 am

If they cared about humans then they would stop pushing this vegan/vegetarian nonsense.

Tom Halla
Reply to  MarkW
June 16, 2023 10:41 am

They despise humans, especially themselves. There is a level of asceticism in veganism, sort of like wearing a burlap shirt.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 16, 2023 9:09 pm

I think you were going for “hair shirt”.
Burlap clothing is a trendy thing. Nice images shown on the web.

Tom Halla
Reply to  John Hultquist
June 17, 2023 5:53 am

But a hair shirt would not be proper for a devout vegan, as it is an animal product.

Disputin
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 17, 2023 11:18 am

It could be your own hair. That would attract lice as well.

KevinM
June 16, 2023 10:38 am

Weirdos can glom their own personal agenda onto other people’s more palatable agendas. I don’t hold this against the green team.

KevinM
Reply to  KevinM
June 16, 2023 10:53 am

Says vegan “That’s because transport makes up only a tiny share of the greenhouse gas emissions from the production and distribution of food.”

There he went and attacked the same team he was using to get attention for himself- they might kick him off their island.

MarkW
Reply to  KevinM
June 16, 2023 1:09 pm

Unless they take efforts to separate themselves from the weirdos, they are going to be associated with them. They want the benefit of passionate fellow travelers who are willing hard for the common parts of their agenda, but they don’t want to be associated with the less palatable parts of the fellow travelers agenda.

Reply to  KevinM
June 16, 2023 3:35 pm

Weirdos are the greens who are the weirdos…

All the way up to the UN and prominent rich greenshots are calling for other people to give up meat and recommending veggies only and bugs.

ResourceGuy
June 16, 2023 10:42 am

Talked me into it, it will be leftover grilled porkchop for lunch. Here’s a Coors Light to you also.

Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 17, 2023 8:31 am

I’ll raise you two beef sirloins, 4 rump steaks and a bucket of Corona

Neil Lock
June 16, 2023 11:03 am

That comments are closed on the professor’s article tells it all. Isn’t a conversation supposed to be two-way?

cgh
Reply to  Neil Lock
June 16, 2023 2:45 pm

Of course comments are closed. This driveling idiot likely ran into far more ferocious criticism than he was prepared to deal with. He has a protected gig at Harvard. So he doesn’t have to care if most people think his opinions are a pile of shite.

Reply to  Neil Lock
June 17, 2023 8:32 am

Some academics are stupid

Rud Istvan
June 16, 2023 11:11 am

Zealots always go too far and then lose bigly. Vegan to save the climate is a good example. Methane has no GHE in the real world because its absorption bands are almost fully overlapped by much more abundant water vapor. So ruminant digestion has zero impact on climate.

But there are many others. Spoke like minded favorites:

  1. Eat bugs to prevent ruminant methane when it has no impact.
  2. Ban gas stoves and furnaces, when they are by far the most efficient residential heat sources: stoves near 100%, furnaces up to 95%. Renewable electricity has to be backed up by CCGT 75% of the time at 61% efficiency. Simple math: .75 * .61 = .46 assuming the renewable 25% is 100% efficient, which it isn’t thanks to T&D losses.
  3. Ban Class 8 diesels after 1935 as California just did just means California shuts down after 1935.
Reply to  Rud Istvan
June 16, 2023 3:42 pm

Obviously you meant 2035, no big deal, a typo.

Big points to you for pointing out the WASTE of energy resulting from ‘going green’.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
June 16, 2023 4:49 pm

3…?

I assume you mean 2035 😉

June 16, 2023 11:20 am

I’ve been a semi vegetarian most of my 73 years- but in recent years I’m really starting to like meat because of my significant other who is a really good cook and knows how to find good meat and to prepare it so it’s delicious. I’m not going back even to save the Earth! 🙂

June 16, 2023 11:21 am

“A few years ago, eating locally — eating only food produced within a defined radius of your home — became the thing for environmentally conscious people to do, to such an extent that “locavore” became the Oxford English Dictionary’s “word of the year” for 2007.”

Bananas, oranges and orange juice, tuna – just a few examples. None of these are sourced anywhere near my home in Central New York.

This is just silly. 

So I hereby define my radius as 12,000 miles great-circle distance to the source.

Rick C
Reply to  David Dibbell
June 16, 2023 4:34 pm

If our grocery store only stocked locally sourced vegan approved stuff it would only need one short shelf from October to June. There would be no flour, sugar, bread, rice, eggs, cheese, frozen pizzas, or fruit other than apples. We’d be down to potatoes. Since the major canned and frozen food suppliers are outside our “local” radius of say 100 miles we wouldn’t even have canned and frozen fruit and vegies. In reality it is the ability to distribute food of all kinds globally that prevents massive famines around the world.

In any case, I won’t play their game. If they want to tax meat to unaffordablity, I’ll go back to buying a couple of feeder pigs and a calf from neighbor farmers and doing my own “processing” when they’re ready.

Reply to  Rick C
June 16, 2023 4:59 pm

“In reality it is the ability to distribute food of all kinds globally that prevents massive famines around the world.”
Indeed so. This is important.

June 16, 2023 11:23 am

American farmers are a very, very powerful lobby. Perhaps farmers in Holland and NZ and some other nations are easily whacked by their governments but American farmers are not. They aren’t going to stop meat production and American citizens aren’t going to stop eating meat. They are so powerful that the annual “farm budget” in the federal budget is something like 80 billion dollars. (wild guess from some past years)

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 16, 2023 4:13 pm

Twenty years ago, I could buy a fifty pound bag of grade B potatoes for well under $10. That is, potatoes with minimal damage from insects and equipment.

Nowadays, it is almost impossible to find a grade A potato outside of a luxury restaurant.
Grade B and other rejects are sold as if they are grade A.

Grade A potatoes have no insect or equipment damage. Both of which seriously degrades storage time.

Corporations, billionaires like Bill Gates but he isn’t alone have been purchasing farms and farmland. Easily bidding higher than the deflated land values farms used to carry.

Corporations tell the farmer what they will grow with specific harvest times.
Corporations sort out the premium crops and ship them to where they get the best price, no matter where globally.

2nd and lower grade crops get turned under or sold as animal fodder.

With the best crop getting sent internationally, distributors and grocery chains are left squabbling for the lower grade products.

Farmers no longer hold the clout they used to have. Corporations wield that leverage nowadays.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 17, 2023 8:35 am

The Dutch farmers are no push over – their BBB Party, formed to counter the Dutch Govt / EU onslaught, is doing remarkably well in the Dutch Parliament

Greytide
June 16, 2023 11:35 am

Unfortunately, my body is not designed to be Vegan. Evolution has made it omniverous. If that needs to be changed to save the planet, it will need some inovative surgery.

Reply to  Greytide
June 16, 2023 5:22 pm

The list of needed enzymes, proteins, and nutrients obtained from eating meat far exceeds that of eating only plants. Many of them come from the plants the animals eat, some of which are made more digestible and beneficial for humans. When stationed in Hawaii it took months before I got used to the tase of Milk which tasted like pineapples as many farmers fed the milk cows the pineapple leaves. The IQ of humans also rapidly increased when humans began eating meat. Which makes me think the goal is to stupefy man while the Elites continue eating meat.

Reply to  usurbrain
June 17, 2023 9:05 am

Which makes me think the goal is to stupefy man while the Elites continue eating meat.”
I think the goal is to have less people and the ones left to be easily manipulated.
You will comply. The beatings will continue until morale improves is their SOP.

Reply to  Greytide
June 17, 2023 8:38 am

Fear not, they have a jab that will help

Martin Pinder
June 16, 2023 11:38 am

‘Locavore’-the Oxford English Dictionary word of 2007? Never heard of it.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Martin Pinder
June 16, 2023 12:45 pm

Popularized by famous Berkeley CA chef Alice Waters, who popularized ‘from farm to table’. Her main restaurant is Chez Panisse. Of course, it helps being a famous locovore when you can farm almost anything almost anytime within 100 miles of Berkeley. That is not true most places.

June 16, 2023 12:39 pm

Hehe, I am currently enjoying a fresh home made avocado wrap which includes some Grillo Hot Pickles with Truff Hot sauce and home grown arugula. As far as I’m concerned it’s very yummy.
Been a vegetarian for the last 50 years because we like to cook that way. Last year we grew 10 lbs of garlic. I could give a rat’s a* what anyone else eats or why. Whatever floats yer boat.
If it tastes good it is good. Thank you Duke.

June 16, 2023 12:41 pm

We didn’t evolve to be vegans. The proof is B12. We make B12, as do ruminants, but unlike them we make it at a stage in the digestive process where it can no longer be absorbed and used by our bodies.

Before about 1920 any group of people living a strictly vegan diet would have become very sick, their kids would not have developed normally, they’d have died out. B12 deficiency anemia.

What about the Jains then? In the developing world grain stores (and food stores in general) were subject to some level of insect infestation, so total veganism wasn’t being practised. In addition the Jain diet allows dairy.

I don’t think there is any evidence that a total vegan diet, even supplemented with B12, is healthier than a well balanced western or asian diet.

As to what that is? Well, Michael Pollan probably has nailed it.

Eat Food. Mainly plants. Not too much of it.

By food is meant something made in a manner and with ingredients that your grandmother or great grandmother would recognize as food and cooking. By ‘mainly’ plants is meant plants but also moderate quantities of meat, fish, eggs, dairy, balanced with plant based foods.

If you look at the diets of peoples with several generations of healthy living you find the same thing: a diet based on some staples such as rice, wheat, corn, kasha etc. Accompanied by relatively small amounts of meat, fish, eggs etc. Quite a lot of vegetables of all sorts, especially green leafy. And pulses, beans, lentils etc, usually eaten in combination with complete or complementary protein foods, which increases the value of their incomplete protein.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 17, 2023 12:30 am

Do you have a reference for the 1 in 5? It seems most unlikely to me for our current population, given what we know of the staple diet of the mass of the population of Europe and Asia in previous centuries, that real carb intolerance at that level could have persisted.

It also seems unlikely to me given what I see people today eating!

I think a lot of what is represented as carb or gluten intolerance is not actually that, its intolerance to the processing. Modern supermarket bread, for instance, is made by the Chorleywood process, large amounts of yeast and very short ferment times. Makes sense to cut costs, but also makes the bread much less digestible for many who then think they are intolerant of gluten. But when they eat sourdough or slow rise traditional bread, they cease to have problems.

English 18c and 19c workhouse food is typically reported as being mainly bread and oats based. Here is one example:

1 pound bread
7 ounces meat
2 ounces butter
4 ounces cheese

beer was commonly added, and men doing hard physical work got more, and there was usually gruel, a sort of thin porridge made of oats or other grains.

The only way you could have survived in England with extreme intolerance to bread would have been to be in a very rich family. For the mass of the population, it was bread and gruel, and later potatoes, that were the staple.

I’m not doubting your reports of your own situation. And I think the attempts now to drive us all to veganism ‘because climate’ are irrational regarding climate, and if successful would be disastrous in their effects on health.

Bryan A
Reply to  michel
June 17, 2023 8:52 am

The problem with Veganism for all is that all the caloric intake provided by Meats and Dairy would need to be replaced by increasing vegetable consumption thereby requiring a doubling of vegetable growing (farming) and area farmed. Then, to eliminate the use of fertilizers added to the soil would require more than 4 times the current growing acreage and likely 8 times just to feed the current population

Graeme M
Reply to  michel
June 16, 2023 2:50 pm

Interestingly, I would say we DID evolve to be “vegans”, in the sense that veganism is not a diet but rather an ethical approach to our relations with other animals. And being moral agents is definitely something we evolved to be. Diet is a consequence of the ethics and that’s up to the individual to decide, but I do like Pollan’s advice.

Reply to  Graeme M
June 17, 2023 12:39 am

You have to separate veganism and vegetarianism. Veganism is a pure plant based diet, no dairy, no fish, no eggs as well as no meat. Vegetarianism would allow dairy, and often fish and eggs.

I don’t think a strict vegan diet is sustainable – I don’t think there are populations with a multi-generation healthy history who practice it. Indeed it would have been impossible to even attempt it before the early 20c and synthetic B12.

Vegetarianism in some form is different, it does represent a viable dietary choice, so its reasonable to adopt it if ones sense of ethics leads that way.

I don’t see that starving oneself and ones children is an ethical choice. Yes, animal welfare is an ethical issue. Yes, the meat industry (and especially the poultry industry) can give one qualms. But we also have an ethical duty to look after ourselves and our children, and that ought to rule out the kind of evangelical veganism which the Princeton piece seems to be.

Lee Riffee
June 16, 2023 1:14 pm

So I suppose that in the minds of this academic and his ilk, the colonists who came over from Europe and nearly wiped out the American bison were doing the environment a favor…..
After all, long before said Europeans brought their cattle over here, the plains were filled with huge multitudes of bison. Plus, pre-colonist, other large ruminants like deer and elk roamed most of the land. It’s a real wonder the Native Americans survived all of that animal belching and flatulence! In addition, in those days, the plains of Africa were filled with all sorts of ruminants, much more so than they are today.
How did the earth avoid cooking its inhabitants back then?
But seriously, it’s highly unlikely that there are any more large ruminants on this planet today then there were hundreds (or thousands) of years ago. And back before animal husbandry began, humans still ate large ungulates. They just took up stone age weapons and went out and hunted them down. In other words, the animals have always been there – whether wild and needing to hunted, or domesticated. Bison and domestic cattle are so closely related that they can interbreed and produce offspring.
I don’t know what this supposedly educated person thinks that humans towards putting protein in their diets before farming began.

Graeme M
Reply to  Lee Riffee
June 16, 2023 3:01 pm

I don’t know, you’d have to find some numbers. It isn’t just ruminants though, it’s the whole system of animal agriculture which generates greenhouse gasses. So things like growing feed, processing manure, etc. That said, there was a paper back in 2012 that estimated enteric emissions from modern ruminant populations in the US are about 20% higher than from wild populations in the past.

Reply to  Lee Riffee
June 16, 2023 3:15 pm

Reminded me of something I heard Rush Limbaugh say a couple of decades ago.
“If you want to preserve an “endangered” species, make a market for it.”

heme212
June 16, 2023 1:22 pm

better to eat the older livestock than starve out the young ones.

June 16, 2023 1:29 pm

I won’t take any advice from anyone who thinks killing infants is OK. The guy is a monster.

https://www.independentliving.org/docs5/singer.html#:~:text=Infanticide,most%20infants%2C%20for%20other%20reasons

Graeme M
Reply to  mkelly
June 16, 2023 3:03 pm

That is NOT what he is saying. Having seen the outcomes for parents who end up with children and later adults with severe disability, I am with him that parents should have the right to choose.

Reply to  Graeme M
June 16, 2023 3:57 pm

No one has the ‘right to choose ‘ someone’s death – you and the rest of society for the past century or so have been brainwashed.

June 16, 2023 1:50 pm

Haha, gotta love the headline banner picture – again.

Skirt Steak: Why so sought after/expensive?
Because, in an animal that didn’t have Type 2 diabetes when it died, Skirt has the Highest Fat Content of anything you’ll find inside a cow.

The diabetes shows up in ‘marbling’ = where the critter is soooo overloaded with fat (made from eating sugar) it has nowhere else to store the stuff but inside muscle.

Skirt Steak demonstrates how: The Human Animal Cannot Lie:
Thus we do intrinsically know what we are supposed to eat – you ready for this:

Saturated fat (80% of all our calories)Liver, Kidneys, BrainsBlood, with added rock-salt to slow its congealing and so we can drink itBone marrow = one of the few things that is nicer cooked (roast the bones then dig it out)Augmented with meat/flesh but only in bite sized chunks – treated as we do chewing gum. = chew it around, suck all the flavour/goodness out then spit it out.
Those would have been the ‘Crumbs from the Master’s Table’ -and why dogs became our best friendsI
We shouldn’t eat much meat – it is too high in protein and destroys our kidneys. We’d only turn it into sugar anyway.
We Are Not Sugar Eaters

For a while it puzzled where we’d get our Vitamin C from. I imagined it coming from our using large tubers as sources of water.
e.g. Potatoes contain immense amounts of Vitamin C
That still left The Inuit -where do they get their Vitamin C?

The craziest place = Whale Blubber.
wtf is a water-soluble ‘thing’ doing there you ask.
But it is so who’s to argue?
Explains Salmon don’t it just? What about the ever-popular Cod Liver Oil – is there something in there which gives it such health-giving properties but nobody dares speak.
Critters of our size/weight should be using about 3,000mg of Vitamin c every day.
Start getting stressed and or doing hard manual labour and that can go out to 15,000mg

So, if whales can ‘hide’ Vitamin C in their fat, what about other critters…
e.g. Wild boar and pigs. Just ordinary bison and cows maybe?

Apart from that, a bit of fresh dirt to keep the bacteria inside us producing B12 and away we go.
Tall. Slim. Intelligent. Awake. Empathic. Sociable. Peace-loving. Chilled.
Not least, long-lived and healthy till the very day we drop.

All the things we patently are not nowadays.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
June 16, 2023 3:04 pm

Weird. Here I thought the human lifespan had increased dramatically in the last 100-200 years.

Certainly, a specific diet can enhance the qualities that will allow lifespans that were incredibly rare in the past because of infection and disease.

A sedentary lifestyle and eating nothing but Pop-Tarts and hamburgers will make you fat. But we are designed to get fat if we can, because supermarkets and even organized farming didn’t exist until relatively recently. Thin meant you didn’t survive the next famine period as easily.

I’d prefer to avoid your cod liver oil diet. Or the UN’s obsession with Fortified Cricket Powder (which sounds like a sports league in Pakistan).

Mostly, though, I’d like to tell people who feel noble about whatever it is they choose to eat that it all ends up in the septic system sooner or later, So save the virtue signalling for something else, like your cat’s preferred pronouns.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
June 16, 2023 4:23 pm

You need to go raise cattle!

June 16, 2023 2:07 pm

Pete Singer.
The name rang a bell. I remember him from decades ago when he was associated with ALF (Animal Liberation Front).
Here’s some of his quotes.
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1547077-animal-liberation
Sounds like he’s joined with CAGW only to promote his old agenda.

Graham
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 16, 2023 9:13 pm

Yes those people jumped aboard just before the Kyoto climate meeting in 1997.
Our Prime minister at that time was Helen Clark a socialist and she was happy to go to the Kyoto Protocol as our emissions from our power generation and transport were low by world standards .
Unfortunately these activists turned up and introduced the world to Enteric Methane which virtually doubled New Zealands so called emissions over night .For the next twelve years global atmospheric methane levels did not move so where was the problem with methane?
There was no problem and live stock were not part of the problem as methane levels started to rise from 2010 as the numbers of farmed livestock were starting to fall.
The rise in methane levels came from increased coal mining and combustion but it is still an irrelevant gas .
Methane is the irrelevant gas at less than 2 parts per million and the effect of methane is completely smothered by water vapour in the atmosphere .
This is because that water vapour is between 20,000 to 30,000 parts per million in the atmosphere . 2 to 3 percent
When these facts become known we might get some common sense from the media.

cgh
June 16, 2023 2:32 pm

What a ridiculous idiot this professor is. Lots of farmland cannot be used for raising crops but can be used for grazing. The net effect of Singer’s nonsense will be the removing of farmland from agricultural production and driving up the cost of grains on a global basis. This means more starvation and food shortages for the poorest people on the planet.

This moron also demonstrates a stunning lack of knowledge about basic human biology. Humans are omnivores for a reason. Our biology has evolved to require animal proteins as well as plants.

Idiots of the AGW cult like Singer should be required to live under the absurdities they propose to inflict on everyone else. But then, ignorance of basic science is only to be expected from someone who claims to be “Professor of Bioethics in the Center for Human Values, Princeton University“.

cgh
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 16, 2023 4:42 pm

I agree. In which case what we see here is an antihuman death cult. These people are always on the verge of insanity. Singer’s fellow traveler Ingrid Newkirk, founder of PETA, has decided that after she’s dead various of her body parts shall be sent to various individuals she hates around the world.

Regardless, they stand for MORE human starvation, malnutrition and poverty. So why would anyone pay attention to them?

malrob
June 16, 2023 2:39 pm

When are we going to hear the veganism promoters tell us that we should get rid of all our pet dogs and cats?

old cocky
Reply to  malrob
June 16, 2023 4:39 pm

Isn’t that PETAA?

No, not Peta of Newark, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

strativarius
June 16, 2023 2:42 pm

“”Professor of Bioethics in the Center for Human Values””???

Professor of Ignorance

Reply to  strativarius
June 16, 2023 3:04 pm

“Forests and meat animals compete for the same land. The prodigious appetite of the affluent nations for meat means that agribusiness can pay more than those who want to preserve or restore the forest. We are, quite literally, gambling with the future of our planet – for the sake of hamburgers”
― Peter Singer, Animal Liberation
tags: agribusinessanimal-rightsanimal-welfaresustainability

“People may hope that the meat they buy came from an animal who died without pain, but they do not really want to know about it. Yet those who, by their purchases, require animals to be killed do not deserve to be shielded from this or any other aspect of the production of the meat they buy.”
― Peter Singer, Animal Liberation

strativarius
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 17, 2023 12:19 am

He’s bonkers

Reply to  strativarius
June 17, 2023 8:43 am

Mickey Mouse had a similar qualification

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