RFK Jr.: Green hero turned anti-vaccine activist takes on Biden – As climate skeptics welcome him – Morano: ‘We need to realign coalitions to oppose Covid & climate coercion’

From CLIMATE DEPOT

E&E News: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was once a hero of the environment in New York…That Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is gone. … 

Kennedy once told Marc Morano, a conservative activist who runs a prominent climate denial blog, that those who reject climate science should be held criminally liable and that polluters should be thrown in jail. Now, Morano says, all is forgiven because Kennedy is “undergoing a genuine transformation over his views on the climate agenda.”

Morano considers the new Kennedy an ally in his fight to sow doubt and distrust around climate science, vaccine research and Covid-19 public health measures.

“I have received some flak from my fellow climate skeptics for being so welcoming and forgiving to RFK Jr., given his hostile history to anyone opposing the climate ‘consensus,’ but I truly believe we are at a pivotal point in U.S. history where we need to realign coalitions to oppose Covid and climate coercion,” Morano said.

By: Admin – Climate Depot

By Scott Waldman | 05/18/2023 06:59 AM EDT

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was once a hero of the environment in New York.

He helped push a fracking ban. As an environmental lawyer, he spent more than three decades fighting for a cleaner Hudson River. He protected New York City’s reservoir in the Catskills. He pressed for the closure of the Indian Point nuclear plant. He founded an environmental group devoted to water protection that has worked on six continents.

That Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is gone.

The long shot presidential candidate and onetime crusader for environmental protections has transformed into a font of anti-vaccine misinformation and conspiracies. That includes promoting false claims about the assassination of his father, former Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, and his uncle, President John F. Kennedy.

“It’s hard not to be sad about it,” said Alex Beauchamp, Northeast region director for Food & Water Watch, who was a Kennedy ally during the years long fight to ban fracking in New York.

“You start to have a couple of crazy views, and then, all of a sudden, you’re a full-blown conspiracy theorist,” Beauchamp said. “I do think it changed; I don’t think he was the same 10 years ago.”

Last month, Kennedy officially launched his bid against President Joe Biden in the Democratic primary. Since then, his poll numbers have been surprisingly strong, reaching as high as 21 percent, according to FiveThirtyEight, a media and poll tracking site. That puts him in a similar position to Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in his uphill battle against former President Donald Trump on the Republican side.

The Kennedy campaign did not respond to a request for comment. However, in an interview last month with a New York radio station, Kennedy blamed the media for portraying him as “crazy” and said people would be open to his ideas.

“When they see me, I don’t look like the mischaracterizations,” he said. “It may be that people just want something different.”

Kennedy’s environmental work in New York is the type of resume that climate-minded Democrats could embrace — had he not clouded it with his public persona of the last few years.

Kennedy, with his famous lineage and long career of battling and beating polluters, was a regular presence at the New York State Capitol. He’d stand atop its grand staircase looking down at hundreds of cheering activists hanging on to his every word as he railed against fracking, Hudson River pollution and greedy corporations poisoning natural resources.

But over the last decade, Kennedy’s visits to the New York State Capitol became less about environmental causes and more about attacking the safety and efficacy of vaccines. It’s there where he began to split his time as an anti-vaccine activist and as a climate champion. He would spout discredited claims about vaccines causing autism one day, and then the next, he would be back to the Hudson River protections.

By 2015, Kennedy was using his name to host press conferences where he pushed false claims about vaccines harming children who receive meningitis shots. He wasn’t holding forth on the grand Capitol staircase, however, and in June of that year, he crowded reporters into a small basement room off the Capitol with angry parents who claimed vaccines had caused autism in their children, a thoroughly debunked claim.

Kennedy and his supporters shouted at reporters for hiding the “truth” about vaccines. He flipped over a poster board and began writing, in small, barely legible script, formulas that he claimed proved his point that additives in vaccines were harming children.

Kennedy told reporters that vaccines were “making our children dumber and … giving them injuries.”

It was a difficult moment.

In the first weeks of his presidential campaign, Kennedy has not rejected climate science, but now claims that climate policy is part of an international conspiracy involving Bill Gates and the World Economic Forum. That type of rhetoric fits squarely with the “Great Reset” conspiracy, which holds that governments will exploit the protocols of the Covid-19 era to force “climate lockdowns,” including forcing people to eat bugs instead of meat.

“Climate issues and pollution issues are being exploited by, you know, the World Economic Forum and Bill Gates and all of these big, you know, mega-billionaires, the same way that Covid was exploited, to use it as an excuse to clamp down top-down totalitarian controls on society,” Kennedy recently told radio show host Kim Iversen, who has also trafficked in conspiracy theories around Covid-19 and vaccines.

Some in New York who fought alongside Kennedy for years feel betrayed.

Kennedy waged so many important environmental battles in New York for so many years that the activist community mostly looked the other way when he started to ramp up his anti-scientific screeds against public health, said former state Assemblyman Steven Englebright (D), who chaired the Environmental Conservation Committee. He said the Kennedy name and the long record of success discouraged people from ostracizing their erratic ally at a time when he alternated between climate and anti-vaccine causes.

“I don’t see that man anymore. From what I see, he’s eccentric at best and maybe disturbed,” Englebright said. “He has lost his way in a direction away from science, and the other word for science is facts.”

The new Kennedy is a purveyor of cherry-picked and junk science who claims public health officials act like Nazis, compares Anthony Fauci to Adolf Hitler and invokes Anne Frank when discussing vaccinations. His own family is horrified at what he is doing to harm the public at large and the political legacy he inherited.

“Bobby’s lies and fear-mongering yesterday were both sickening and repulsive,” Kerry Kennedy wrote on Twitter after her brother referenced Anne Frank. “I strongly condemn him for his hateful rhetoric.”

More recently, Kerry Kennedy has made it clear that the family does not support his presidential run.

“I love my brother Bobby, but I do not share or endorse his opinions on many issues, including the Covid pandemic, vacawsaKennedy once told Marc Morano, a conservative activist who runs a prominent climate denial blog, that those who reject climate science should be held criminally liable and that polluters should be thrown in jail. Now, Morano says, all is forgiven because Kennedy is “undergoing a genuine transformation over his views on the climate agenda.”

He considers the new Kennedy an ally in his fight to sow doubt and distrust around climate science, vaccine research and Covid-19 public health measures.

“I have received some flak from my fellow climate skeptics for being so welcoming and forgiving to RFK Jr., given his hostile history to anyone opposing the climate ‘consensus,’ but I truly believe we are at a pivotal point in U.S. history where we need to realign coalitions to oppose Covid and climate coercion,” he said.

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Bonus Material: Here are the full comments I gave E&E reporter Scott Waldman on RFK Jr.: 

Marc Morano comments: Climate Depot publisher and Great Reset author: 

The last three years have seen a monumental change in political alliances. No longer is it Left versus Right, but freedom versus tyranny. Who thought we would see alliances between conservatives with people like Naomi, Wolf, Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand, and RFK Jr.!?

The COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, and the public health manufactured ‘consensus’ that the world should follow China on lockdowns really shattered the old Left, Right paradigm.

RFK Jr. is being red-pilled by COVID to now expose that the same forces (UN, WEF, WHO) that pushed China-inspired COVID tyranny on the world are also pushing climate tyranny on the world. See: RFK Jr. red-pilled on climate agenda?! RFK Jr. declares climate ‘being exploited by the WEF & Bill Gates’ in ‘the same way that COVID was exploited’ – ‘Top-down totalitarian controls on society’

In my book, The Great Reset, I welcomed an alliance with RFK Jr. and climate skeptics. I officially granted him pardon for his past jail climate ‘denier’ comments. It was my 2014 interview with him at the New York City climate march that made his jailing ‘deniers’ comments go viral both then and now.

Page 252 of my book:  I wrote. “All is forgiven by me for him wanting to jail climate skeptics after this anti-lockdown speech! Maybe climate skeptics can work with RFK Jr. on opposing the climate agenda someday. Climate skeptics have a big tent. We welcomed progressives Michael Moore & Michael Shellenberger, in 2020, and I am ready to welcome RFK Jr. to our issue as well.”

I have received some flack from my fellow climate skeptics for being so welcoming and forgiving to RFK Jr., given his hostile history to anyone opposing the climate ‘consensus’, but I truly believe we are at a pivotal point in U.S. history where we need to realign coalitions to oppose COVID AND climate coercion.

I also believe that RFK Jr. is undergoing a genuine transformation over his views on the climate agenda — not necessarily on his scientific view of climate change. There is no way that he could accurately expose the WHO/UN/WEF and other public health organizations’ COVID ‘solutions’ and not see the same players pushing the same type of ‘solutions’ on climate change.

In many ways, RFK Jr. is helping the Democrat Party base wake up to the global institutions and government bureaucracies’ push to strip away more and more freedoms in the name of fighting viruses and/or climate change. Given the incredible similarities in COVID and climate change, RFK Jr.’s dalliance on the national political scene will help expose how the UN/WHO/WEF are using a ginned-up climate scare to gain more power and control and strip away our freedoms.

You will find many 2024 voters may just as easily pull the lever for RFK Jr. or Donald Trump.”

End Morano comments as submitted to E&E. 

RFK Jr. red-pilled on climate agenda?! RFK Jr. declares climate ‘being exploited by the WEF & Bill Gates’ in ‘the same way that COVID was exploited’ – ‘Top-down totalitarian controls on society’

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on The Kim Iversen Show – Broadcast April 25, 2023

RFK Jr.: “The climate issues and pollution issues are being exploited by the World Economic Forum and Bill Gates and all of these big Mega billionaires the same way that COVID was exploited. To use it as an excuse to clamp down — top-down totalitarian controls on society and to then to give us engineering solutions. And if you look closely as it turns out, the guys who are promoting those engineering solutions are the people who own the IPs, the patents for those solutions. It’s being used.

They’ve given climate chaos a bad name because people now see that it’s just another crisis that’s being used to strip mine the wealth of the poor and to enrich billionaires. I, for 40 years, have had the same policy on climate and engineering. You can go check my speeches from the 1980s, and I’ve said the most important solution for environmental issues is not top-down controls, it’s free market capitalism and what we have in this country now is not free market capitalism; it’s corporate crony capitalism. It’s capitalism, cushy, kind of socialism for the rich, and a brutal, barbaric merciless capitalism for the poor.”

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_Jim
May 18, 2023 10:27 am

WHERE does one start in evaluating this ‘turn’ in position, this change in viewpoints?

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Rich Davis
Reply to  _Jim
May 18, 2023 12:44 pm

I would say given his very long history as an anti-vaxxer, that it is unlikely that he’s positioning his campaign in ways he doesn’t sincerely believe.

So long as RFK, Jr doesn’t decide to run third party after he is trounced by the Vegetable-in-Chief, then this benefits Trump. Any Bribe-Me voters who warm up to RFK may either fail to vote or even decide for Trump in the General. (Of course not casting a ballot doesn’t mean a ballot won’t be printed and trucked in for Dementia Joe & Kackles anyway).

The danger for Trump will be if the RFK campaign is a ploy to strip off Trump’s less conservative voters as a third party candidate. Something like Ross Perot getting the Clinton Crime Family into the White House only this time siphoning away some Trump votes and capturing protest votes by disenchanted Bribe-Me voters who might otherwise have gone to Trump.

There is no chance of a President Kennedy in 2025. That much we can say for certain.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 18, 2023 1:41 pm

“I would say given his very long history as an anti-vaxxer, that it is unlikely that he’s positioning his campaign in ways he doesn’t sincerely believe.”

At least on that issue- but all others are probably open to which way the wind is blowing.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
May 18, 2023 2:42 pm

Ordinarily I’d be just as cynical. But has he changed his tune on anything else? It seems he’s not a real Climate Change skeptic other than to say that billionaires are taking advantage? I understood that he still thinks there’s an emergency but recognizes that the covid tactics he decries are also being applied to climate, benefitting elites rather than “solving the problem”.

You could say he’s the enemy of my enemy but not my friend. Much like Michael Moore.

HotScot
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 18, 2023 3:59 pm

“The science” on climate will never be “settled” one way or another.

What Kennedy has realised, it seems, is that the global scam of covid is much like the global scam of climate.

There is a dawning realisation that the cases for both are not designed to benefit mankind but to benefit the totalitarian ambitions of certain individuals and organisations.

Fine, fight the battle, not the skirmish. Kennedy seems an influential voice for confronting the totalitarians, his views on climate are now inconsequential.

Thanks to covid and his historic views on vaccines (rightly or wrongly) he now understands the end game.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  HotScot
May 19, 2023 6:08 am

““The science” on climate will never be “settled” one way or another.”

Nailed it!

usurbrain
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 20, 2023 11:53 am

It has not been that long ago that RFK Jr. was selling Renewable Energy to BIG OIL as a way to improve their profit by increasing their demand. Can’t presently find the video that was made of his speech at a gathering of Big Oil. He may be in the Skeptical church, but I do not believe he has seen the light.

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_Jim
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 18, 2023 2:09 pm

A fair assessment, Rich. +1

HotScot
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 18, 2023 3:49 pm

There is no chance of a President Kennedy in 2025. That much we can say for certain.

Never say never…….

Rich Davis
Reply to  HotScot
May 18, 2023 4:30 pm

I’ll put you down for a Reform UK victory led by Nigel Farage then. It is probably a better chance of Farage leading Labour to victory than RFK winning as a Democrat.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  HotScot
May 19, 2023 9:50 am

Right. If Biden, for whatever reason, is unable to complete his current term, do you really think people are going to vote for Harris as President?

RatMan29
Reply to  HotScot
May 21, 2023 6:37 pm

Depends if the CIA kills him as they did his father and uncle.

HotScot
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 18, 2023 4:19 pm

I’ll also add that the dangers to Biden in the 2024 elections are more manifest with Kennedy running than they are to Trump.

It’s not just Republicans who recognise the insane excesses of Biden’s Presidency. Many Democrats are now politically homeless. They won’t vote Republican but will vote for a credible democrat.

The MAGA crowd is now well established, they won’t vote for Kennedy. Swing voters will always be an influencing factor but that’s a two way street and unlikely to affect Trump considering Biden’s polling results.

The threat of Kennedy seems to affect Biden more than Trump. Let’s face it, if Biden is the best the Democrats have to offer then Kennedy will be a welcome relief for many. Who else to the Democrats have to field? Presumably that’s why Biden is running again, because he’s the best the Democrat establishment has.

I think Kennedy is a much bigger threat to Biden than the pollsters understand.

Rich Davis
Reply to  HotScot
May 18, 2023 6:00 pm

Democrats are an ideologically unified team. Some may register concern in primary elections by voting RFK but 90+% will resign themselves to Biden in a binary choice of Biden-Trump. Dems have a voter registration edge in most contestable states, where independents swing the vote.

Very few Dems will vote for Kennedy, especially if it appears that Trump will benefit. Probably a bigger portion of the Trump vote are loosely affiliated Independents who might choose Kennedy or Trump. They also might fall back to Trump if it appears clear that a vote for Kennedy benefits Biden.

Unfortunately Trump needs most of the Independents. Biden needs fewer due to the voter registration imbalance. The more Independents who vote for Kennedy the fewer vote for Trump, the more certain Trump loses.

It seems unlikely that Biden will fall below the percentage who currently approva of his abysmal job performance. (37%). Remember that many Dems are disapproving of his job performance but would still chew glass before voting MAGA.

Likewise Trump’s MAGA core probably won’t fall below 28-30%. That leaves at most 35% for Kennedy, at least a shortfall of 2% and a Biden victory.

That’s why I say a third party run by Kennedy hurts Trump.

niceguy12345
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 19, 2023 6:45 pm

Democrats are an ideologically unified team.

Nope, they have no ideas (*) so no ideology. They have a sectarian mindset though.

(*) More elaborate and complex than those in answers in a beauty pageant.

Rich Davis
Reply to  niceguy12345
May 20, 2023 8:30 am

If you prefer, they are tribal. Half a century on, they remain the party of acid, amnesty, and abortion.

Hedonistic nihilists and conformists seeking acceptance by the cool kids.

Milo
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 19, 2023 2:48 pm

Maybe if he runs with Trump on a national unity ticket, then The Donald dies naturally in 2025, is disabled or bumped off.

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michel
Reply to  _Jim
May 19, 2023 12:24 am

The guy is a complete flake. Have nothing to do with him, don’t get your campaigning associated with him in any way.

Milo
May 18, 2023 10:30 am

With fronds like this, who needs anemones. — Judy Holliday

_Jim
Reply to  Milo
May 18, 2023 10:37 am

Especially the more ‘toxic’ anemones at that.

MCourtney
Reply to  Milo
May 18, 2023 11:51 pm

In science it’s not worth anything to be ‘right’.
You need to be ‘right’ for the right reasons.
At least you need to have reasons that are justifiable…
This ain’t that.

_Jim
May 18, 2023 10:33 am

It won’t be easy in the democrat primaries this time around either; RFK Jr. is going to face new battles within his own party, presented is an example of the ‘undertow’ that is present in the waters:

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_Jim
Reply to  _Jim
May 18, 2023 1:51 pm

ADD to the mix –
“RFK Jr. on Why Donald Trump is the “Most Devastating Debater Since Abraham Lincoln,” w/ Megyn Kelly”

https://youtu.be/7P0vIbQNkZA

Giving_Cat
May 18, 2023 10:37 am

“The common sense is that which judges the things given to it by the other senses.” ~ Leonardo da Vinci

KevinM
May 18, 2023 11:14 am

Should covid still be a thing? Seems like someone’s not “doing the work” of finding the next shiny thing to chase after.

_Jim
Reply to  KevinM
May 18, 2023 2:06 pm

Well, since Monleypox has petered (no pun intended) out …

More Soylent Green!
Reply to  KevinM
May 18, 2023 2:13 pm

There is still long Covid. Just waiting for somebody to prove it exists.

niceguy12345
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 19, 2023 6:52 pm

It’s as if getting back from a weakened state was not instantaneous in mankind. (Or womankind.)

Walter Sobchak
May 18, 2023 11:14 am

Kennedy vs DeSantis might be very amusing. I would be great fun to see media heads implode.

HotScot
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
May 18, 2023 3:32 pm

Oh gosh. I think Kennedy would wipe the floor with Desantis, who comes across as a bit wooden to me.

RatMan29
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
May 21, 2023 6:40 pm

No one on the right trusts deSantis. He has sold out to Sorhed (Soros).

HotScot
May 18, 2023 11:51 am

We are all required to change our minds.

RFK Jr’s position on ‘climate’, whilst radical 20 years ago, pales into insignificance in the face of todays climate fanatics.

He hasn’t changed his position, the rest of the world has. Like a lone preacher on the beach calling for god’s wrath to visit on humanity.

Then a tsunami appears and….Ooops……

“Not quite what I meant, and I didn’t expect to be included”.

Be careful what you wish for.

Powerful ally against the medical and big pharma cabal, and the lunacy of extreme climatism though, considering his family background. But it’s what else he would like to accomplish as a left wing POTUS which should concern us. Is it out the Biden frying pan into the Kennedy fire?

Rich Davis
Reply to  HotScot
May 18, 2023 12:49 pm

Prime Minister Farage is 2x more likely than Pres RFK Jr.

HotScot
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 18, 2023 2:41 pm

Not a chance in hell.

Farage is far too clever and practical to ever be allowed a chance to be be PM.

The Civil Service is terrified of him.

starzmom
May 18, 2023 12:51 pm

I was going to say that, positions aside, RFK Jr.’s voice and speaking troubles would sink his candidacy, but then I remembered Johns Fetterman got elected in Pennsylvania.

antigtiff
Reply to  starzmom
May 18, 2023 2:54 pm

Fetterman? Fienstein? Biden? Demrats will elect a corpse for power – they lust for power and control at all costs. Kennedy probably has about a 30% chance to have a case of shingles….unless….unless….he gets the vaccine against shingles which offers about 95% protection.

HotScot
Reply to  starzmom
May 18, 2023 2:54 pm

Very good point.

I struggled with JFK Jr’s delivery for a short while, then it becomes white noise, one begins to ignore it. In fact, I would go as far as to say he’s someone people have to listen to because of his affliction, therefore they can’t just switch off as most people do with smooth talking, sycophantic politicians.

I find the man fascinating. Like Nigel Farage over here in the UK (see above) he seems honest and down to earth. He drops truth bombs at will and has no filter. I don’t like that he’s a Democrat but I get the feeling he’s a 1950’s/60’s Democrat which, racist underpinnings aside, was more right wing than the current Republican party is today.

Having said all that, I’m a Brit and not conversant with US political systems and influences so entirely likely to be a sucker to perception.

But it looks to me like every time Kennedy opens his mouth he delivers both barrels, to both sides of the political divide.

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Rich Davis
Reply to  HotScot
May 18, 2023 4:12 pm

He has an insurmountable structural problem if staying in the Dem party. Their base is as far from skeptical of covid and climate policy as is possible. Some are still wearing their masks.

I can’t see better than a 25-75 rout favoring Bribem in the primaries. If RFK loses and subsequently endorses Dr Biden’s dementia patient, that can’t hurt Trump but might marginally help him.

RFK has to be aware of this fact. Trump is the author of Operation Warp-Speed. If covid is his hot button, does he really want to help Trump?

He’s got to also be aware that no third party has won the Presidency, nor ever come close since 1856 when the Whigs collapsed and the Republicans managed second place.

So you have to wonder what his actual motivation may be. He can only act as a spoiler. Is he more likely to want to hurt his own party’s certain candidate or the opposition candidate?

I guess there could be three motivations other than the irrational thought of actually winning.

He could have a grudge against Brandon like Ross Perot who wanted to derail Poppy Bush. (No evidence that I am aware of).

He could be planning to run as an Independent to drain votes away from Trump, in other words a kind of false flag operation being orchestrated by the DNC.

Or he could be trying to influence the major parties to shift policy toward his ideas and or trying to get a bigger audience for his ideas without much consideration of who it helps.

The last of these seems most likely, but that does not rule out a third party run, so on balance I think RFK is a danger to Trump.

Tom Halla
May 18, 2023 12:59 pm

This is rather like someone who used to be a Stalinist, or a Young Earth Creationist. It says a lot about their judgement that they were once a radical. Eric Hoffer observed some seventy years ago that True Believers sometimes changed the content of their extremism, but not their extremist tendencies.

More Soylent Green!
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 18, 2023 1:54 pm

IIRC, the great Thomas Sowell was once a Marxist. People can change and dramatically. But I’d like to hear his story about this. A road to Damascus moment or a more gradual evolution.

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Tom Halla
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 18, 2023 2:16 pm

A rare exception, but Sowell does have a sixty odd year track record of not being a Marxist. With RFK Jr, this was about his behavior five years ago or less.

HotScot
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 18, 2023 3:07 pm

If you’re not a socialist in your 30’s you have no heart.

If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 40 you have no brain.

(Paraphrasing an alleged Churchill comment)

Churchill himself changed political parties.

I think most of us harboured thoughts that the world could be all light and fluffy, with everyone earning just what they needed, for doing as little as is needed, and everything would be sweetness and light. Watched over by a benign government who would care for us and provide all we need.

I certainly did, for all of fifteen minutes when I was about 14 years old and an older schoolfriend attempted to extol the virtues of Marxism to me.

I liked it until I finished the walk home from school and my Dad told me to wash the car. If I did a good job he would pay me. If I didn’t he would kick my ass.

Marxism dispelled.

Tom Halla
Reply to  HotScot
May 18, 2023 3:28 pm

The problem with that is that RFK Jr is 69, and was a rabid green five years ago.

HotScot
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 18, 2023 3:43 pm

Five years is a long time in the green world. Five years ago the debate on WUWT was about the science of climate change.

Today, most are onboard with the theory of elitist globalism using climate change to further their totalitarian ambitions.

Milo
Reply to  HotScot
May 19, 2023 2:57 pm
RatMan29
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 21, 2023 6:42 pm

Come-to-Jesus moments cannot be scheduled.

Tom Halla
Reply to  RatMan29
May 21, 2023 6:59 pm

This is more like not trusting Robert Byrd’s conversion.

n.n
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 18, 2023 2:53 pm

Yes, class-disordered ideologies (e.g. Marxism, feminism, masculinism, albinophobia), but also faith in processes and events outside of a limited frame of reference, performs human rites, experiments with human bodies and minds, etc.

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Beards
May 18, 2023 1:00 pm

He once said gas should be $12/gallon and still is not a supporter of nuclear energy. Not sure I’m buying all he’s selling.

starzmom
Reply to  Beards
May 19, 2023 5:22 am

It is thanks to his his lack of support that Indian Point closed. Effects on NYC’s electricity supply are yet to be seen. My sense is that whatever his newly hatched reservations on climate change, he will come down on the side of anti-fossil fuels and pro-electricity rationing.

Simon
May 18, 2023 1:30 pm

The guy is a complete nutter. If you want him on your team you are welcome to him.

karlomonte
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 2:30 pm

Oh the irony is too much to handle.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
May 18, 2023 2:53 pm

Like most things for you huh?

karlomonte
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 4:07 pm

How’s that RussiaRussiaRussia trope going for you these days, CNN Simon?

HotScot
Reply to  karlomonte
May 18, 2023 3:08 pm

🤣🤣🤣

bnice2000
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 3:09 pm

Your side elected him… he is a Democrat…

But then, basically every Democrat is a complete nutter..

Simon
Reply to  bnice2000
May 18, 2023 4:13 pm

Your side elected him… he is a Democrat…”
So was Trump, but not proud of that one either. But it just shows you there are crazies everywhere and also why you are a fool if you vote on the party alone.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 4:41 pm

And once again, Simon fails to see the humor of his positions.

karlomonte
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 4:49 pm
Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
May 18, 2023 6:43 pm

Oh look Karlomonte posts an article right wing rag. I’ll note you didn’t mention that he is now a sex offender.

karlomonte
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 9:13 pm

Still a dumb as a box of rocks and twice as stupid, yep, that’s CNN Simon.

karlomonte
Reply to  Simon
May 19, 2023 6:38 am

And your knowledge of the American legal system, as bad as it currently is, is abysmal. He is not a “sex offender”, nor was he convicted of anything.

All you do is regurgitate the marxist-democrat-fake news propaganda, too stupid to see it for what it is.

Milo
Reply to  Simon
May 19, 2023 3:01 pm

Trump was not convicted of a sex crime.

HotScot
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 4:50 pm

Democrats: “Trump will begin WW3!!!!”

Four years of Trump, not a single new conflict begun, the first time in a first term president since 1977.

Democrat’s: “Biden’s President, Yay!”

Enter stage left, Biden, and the potential for WW3 begins on the European continent, where the last two wold wars began. Complete with nuclear ordnance now contaminating Ukrainian soil.

So, without the personal nonsense, what did Trump do worse than Biden has done in terms of foreign policy?

Simon
Reply to  HotScot
May 18, 2023 6:46 pm

His plan (that Biden followed) for the handling of the exit from Afghanistan was appalling. Yes silly Biden too for following it. But nothing compares in modern US history to the total and complete failure of his handing of covid. It lost him the election and so it should have. Bleach anyone?

bnice2000
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 7:02 pm

LIAR, Biden did not follow Trump plan.

He perverted it, with zero understanding of what he was doing …

(his perpetual mode of operation..)

It was a complete failure, just like the rest of his pseudo-presidency has been.

Certainly , Trump should never have listened to Fauci about Covid… another slimy lying leftist.

Bleach?,.. have you got Hillary’s and Hunter’s laptop, and need to hide the corruption?

karlomonte
Reply to  bnice2000
May 18, 2023 9:14 pm

Simon is just another marxist liar, and not a very bright one either.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 7:04 pm

Is there no lie so discredited that you won’t repeat it unthinkingly?
Biden did not follow Trump’s plan. Trump’s plan was for a staged withdrawal with both sides meeting conditions in the process.

Biden was the one who decided to just pull out all at once, without giving the US forces time to remove our equipment before getting out. Even Biden’s own generals begged him not to go through with his version of the plan.

More Soylent Green!
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 7:33 pm

No Trump also had a plan. Biden did Biden’s Plan and it was a complete cluster fudge. That mess is all on Team Biden.

I’m not endorsing Trump’s plan. I’m saying you are misinformed, at best.

bnice2000
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 18, 2023 10:02 pm

I’m saying you are misinformed”

He knows the facts,.. but is DELIBERATE in choosing to lie about basically everything as a standard mode of attention-seeking.

HotScot
Reply to  Simon
May 19, 2023 2:04 am

His plan (that Biden followed)

Thereby confirming that Biden can’t think for himself……..

karlomonte
Reply to  HotScot
May 19, 2023 6:39 am

Same-same for CNN Simon……

Simon
Reply to  HotScot
May 19, 2023 2:49 pm

The plan was agreed and signed off by Trump before he lost the election. Biden merely kept the US’s word.

Simon
Reply to  HotScot
May 19, 2023 2:47 pm

This is what Trumps own national security advisor thinks of his ability as a foreign policy negotiator. It is nothing short of frightening…..

karlomonte
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 5:15 pm
bnice2000
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 6:57 pm

Poor simpleton… ignorance personified…

Trump was not a Democrat, and certainly not a crazy, anti-human loon like most Democrats.

YEs, the whole USA regrets he was not elected for a second term.

They are suffering all sorts of leftist predation because of that.

And looking at Biden, even the most ardent leftist must be cringing in SHAME that they elected him.

starzmom
Reply to  bnice2000
May 19, 2023 5:27 am

No, even the most ardent leftists are not cringing in shame. My ignorant brother regularly sends texts to prove this–he is proud of both Biden and Fetterman. And sadly, he and his wife both vote. Next time around his sons will also vote.

Simon
Reply to  bnice2000
May 20, 2023 1:39 pm

Trump was not a Democrat, …….”
Wrong.
Trump’s political party affiliation has changed numerous times. He registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987, switched to the Reform Party in 1999, the Democratic Party in 2001, and back to the Republican Party in 2009.

Now if you have a reference that says I am wrong, let’s see it.

Simon
Reply to  Simon
May 21, 2023 1:28 pm

Gosh you seem to have gone away. Oh well, I guess that is what new learning does.

Simon
Reply to  bnice2000
May 20, 2023 1:56 pm
Simon
Reply to  bnice2000
May 20, 2023 11:36 pm

bnice2000
so now you know Trump was in fact a democrat…. how do you feel?

karlomonte
Reply to  Simon
May 21, 2023 4:36 pm

BFD—WTH does this prove?

The current democrat party is the party of marxist kooks.

starzmom
Reply to  bnice2000
May 19, 2023 5:24 am

I don’t think RFK Jr. has ever been elected to anything.

Milo
Reply to  starzmom
May 19, 2023 3:11 pm

No, but his second wife allegedly hanged herself 11 years ago. Remarkably, he wed a third time two years later.

His heroin conviction derailed his political career, after failing his first bar exam delayed it.

_Jim
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 3:27 pm

Demonstrating the depth of one’s insanity by not explicitly stating the depths of one’s insanity?

Simon
Reply to  _Jim
May 18, 2023 5:35 pm

Agreed… Trump has taught us that if nothing else.

_Jim
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 5:50 pm

Recall all the media types who came down with the raging contagion termed TDS? Pepperidge Farms remembers too. Loved those numbers from the CNN “Town Hall” (cough ‘Town Hall?’ cough) the other night as well. Seems there was no downside for the orange man. Oh – I almost forgot to mention what a ‘rational’, objective read of the Durham report shows: Insurrection in a federal agency which at one time prized “Fidelity, Bravery and Integrity” as objectives.

P. Strozk and L. Page having an affair on the tax-payer paid dime was a bonus, and should help pull in an audience when the movie comes out, b/c, ‘s_x sells’ in the movie ‘bidness’.

karlomonte
Reply to  _Jim
May 18, 2023 6:11 pm

Simon is the Poster Boi for TDS.

_Jim
Reply to  karlomonte
May 18, 2023 6:42 pm

I’ve got this for Simon then, Chris (“Mr Reagan” channel on YT) goes into “CNN EXPOSED – Plot To AMBUSH Trump In Town Hall Revealed!” (only mildly click-baity):

bnice2000
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 10:05 pm

Yep, Trump has shown us just how quickly a country can slip into disrepute when a geriatric moronically insane Democrat is elected.

From a country making progress, energy dependent, strong militarily, to almost a basket case.. in just a couple of years under the current non-leadership.

Derg
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 4:32 pm

Signed in to find out if the colluuuusion clown has found his colluuuusion….it always cracks me up how dumb some people can be.

karlomonte
Reply to  Derg
May 18, 2023 4:41 pm

Oh yeah, its imprinted onto his alleged brain. He can’t escape it.

Derg
Reply to  karlomonte
May 18, 2023 5:40 pm

I am not sure Simon has a brain. He is good comedy though. I can’t remember the posters name who was kicked off but Simon reminds me of that guy. He will go to his grave muttering “there just has to be colluuuusion…there just has to be.”

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
May 18, 2023 6:48 pm

It’s true I am loving watching him lose time and time again in court. The next one is the big one though. Georgia and his attempt to steal the election. Can’t wait.

Simon
Reply to  Derg
May 18, 2023 6:47 pm

“Dumb” and here I was thinking you had moved past 5 year old put downs.

Derg
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 7:18 pm

Lol you have been dumb longer than 5 years dude. Short bus indeed

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 4:40 pm

Funny how someone only becomes a nutter when he betrays the great socialist cause.

karlomonte
Reply to  MarkW
May 18, 2023 5:21 pm

CNN Simon still thinks the mRNA injections are “safe and effective”, ergo RFK Jr is a “nutter”.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
May 18, 2023 6:50 pm

CNN Simon still thinks the mRNA injections are “safe and effective”” Well because they are. At least if you live on planet earth they are. A lot safer than not having them.

bnice2000
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 7:06 pm

Simply and naively DELUSIONAL..

that is all we can say about Simon.. watch it grovelling at Fauci’s feet !

Go take your 7th/8th jab.. … and enjoy ! 😉

starzmom
Reply to  Simon
May 19, 2023 5:30 am

3 vaccines later and I still got COVID. Sickest I have ever been. Yeah, I didn’t die. Please explain just how effective and safe the vaccine really is.

karlomonte
Reply to  starzmom
May 19, 2023 6:53 am

Simon can’t actually think for himself, so he just echos whatever the MarxStreamMedia puts out.

starzmom
Reply to  karlomonte
May 19, 2023 8:34 am

When the facts change, people are free to change their opinion. He seems stuck in the past on Fauci.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
May 19, 2023 2:53 pm

Yep that’s why you all come running when I write….. what is that they say about being over the target?

Derg
Reply to  Simon
May 21, 2023 8:02 am

We look at you with disbelief in your stupidity

Simon
Reply to  starzmom
May 19, 2023 2:52 pm

You need to do some reading. The stats speak for themselves. With vaccine less chance of death. Without, greater chance of death. It’s not rocket science.

karlomonte
Reply to  Simon
May 19, 2023 3:15 pm

Another irony overload.

niceguy12345
Reply to  Simon
May 19, 2023 7:04 pm

You have no stats to show. None.
Not even in “PANdemic” can you prove you darling “vaccines” work.
Vaccine science is mostly a con.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
May 18, 2023 6:48 pm

Funny how mark starts so many sentences with funny.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
May 18, 2023 7:06 pm

Funny how Simon is not capable of engaging in real debate, just throws insults at those who are demonstrably smarter than he is.
Then again, amoeba are demonstrably smarter than he is.

karlomonte
Reply to  MarkW
May 19, 2023 6:53 am

Too dumb to understand when people are laughing at him.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
May 19, 2023 2:53 pm

“Dumb”… brilliant comeback.

karlomonte
Reply to  Simon
May 19, 2023 3:15 pm

Thanks.

Joseph Zorzin
May 18, 2023 1:40 pm

“I also believe that RFK Jr. is undergoing a genuine transformation over his views on the climate agenda — not necessarily on his scientific view of climate change.”

He’s a politician- I wouldn’t believe any thing he says- and I doubt he has any deep understanding of climate science. Probably no more than those politician idiots the other day who were asked if they knew what % of the atmosphere is CO2 and they all flunked the test. It might be a good question to ask him, for starters. If he can’t answer that, don’t bother asking a 2nd question. I doubt he’ll ever say anything positive about fossil fuels.

More Soylent Green!
May 18, 2023 1:59 pm

I really love his book on Fauci, Gates, C-19 and the vaccines. He is not timid in his point of view.

https://amazon.com/Real-Anthony-Fauci-Democracy-Childrens/dp/1510766804

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Mr.
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 18, 2023 3:27 pm

Yes, what I got most out of RFK Jnr’s Fauci book was the confirmation that leopards don’t change their spots –

Fauci from his 1980s grifting days to ensure that only his anointed HIV AIDS patented & royalies-paying medications were FPA approved (which gave rise to all those “Dallas Buyers Clubs”), to his more recent same playbook grifter efforts with the patented mRNA “vaccines”;

Gates – enough said.

Derg
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 18, 2023 4:34 pm

Fauci is a human 💩…he and Gates are terrible humans.

gyan1
May 18, 2023 2:05 pm

The anti-vaxxer label has as much validity as the climate denier label. Defamation is all they have because science doesn’t support their narratives.

I recommend “Turtles All The Way DownVaccine Science and Myth” for anyone interested in vaccine safety and efficacy.

Big Pharma is a criminal organization working with China to institute totalitarian control of information and markets to protect their monopoly on health care. Their business model is to get you on drugs that cause side effects requiring you to take more of their products. That is the opposite of wellness.

n.n
Reply to  gyan1
May 18, 2023 3:11 pm

Yes, Kennedy recognizes that vaccines (i.e. sterilizing treatments) are part of a risk management protocol, acknowledges that there are diverse risk cohorts, and, with rational and reasonable assessments, medical mandates are unscientific and transhumane.

HotScot
Reply to  gyan1
May 18, 2023 3:16 pm

Meanwhile, the Chinese have been at the forefront of alternative medicine.

Don’t buy what you’re sold by western governments about the Chinese. They are not perfect but the Chinese people have one thing in common with the west, they love earning money.

Whilst Rolls Royce won’t release their figures, it’s believe they sell more cars in China than they do in any other country on earth.

The Chinese people have a completely different philosophy to command and control than we in the west do.

The covid pantomime was little different in the west than it was in China. What does that say about us?

gyan1
Reply to  HotScot
May 18, 2023 4:09 pm

The totalitarian censorship of official data and alternatives to vaccines was as bad as what the CCP does.

HotScot
Reply to  gyan1
May 18, 2023 4:41 pm

Precisely my point.

More Soylent Green!
Reply to  HotScot
May 19, 2023 6:31 am

It says our elites and intellectuals are authoritarians.

They admire and want a strongman to rule over us. It’s the exact opposite of the narrative. With few exceptions, conservatives and MAGA supporters don’t want to control people’s lives. But progressives want to control how we live, where we can live, what we say, how we think, etc. And they want us to be grateful to them, to boot..

gyan1
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 19, 2023 10:55 am

Progressives believe they have the right to control others because they got good grades by parroting what woke professors told them so think they are intellectually superior.

An inability to understand how the real world works is their most defining characteristic.

bonbon
May 18, 2023 2:47 pm

Here is what is driving the US and British Establishment to rug-chewing :

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6327062025112 Hannity and RFK, Jr.

The CIA were definitely involved in the open air murder of JFK, RFK Jr’s uncle.
This is the key issue.
Release all documents under the 1992 law, that even Trump balked at, and any FOREIGN government files on this atrocity!

There is the fog of war, and CO2.

_Jim
Reply to  bonbon
May 18, 2023 3:22 pm

Trump has since, recently, a week or so back, said he would release ALL JFK related files/info etc. Are you up to date on this?

BTW, having gone over voluminous amounts of reports, books, data on the JFK shooting, I can make NO other case except LHO shot JFK, as well as taking a shot at a certain Gen. Walker earlier that same year. Most people are completely unawares of the shot LHO took at that certain Gen. Walker, as I’ll bet you are unawares.

A good book to get started on this is “Case Closed” by one Gerald Posner. Posner started out expecting LHO did not do the shooting, and reversed his initial ‘opinion’ in the course of doing research for the book.

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More Soylent Green!
Reply to  _Jim
May 19, 2023 6:38 am

What’s that documentary on Prime that posits the Secret Service accidentally killed Kennedy during Oswald’s assassination attempt? Again, accidentally, while LHO was attempting to kill JFK.

It’s interesting that nobody could execute the shots as recorded in the official record. They created a closed course, put a marksman in a tower and tried to reproduce the shots against moving targets. One person was able to replicate what the record say Oswald did, after more than 100 attempts.

That doesn’t prove Oswald didn’t do it. People sometimes get very lucky.

_Jim
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 19, 2023 6:58 am

ONE data point. Ignores ear witnesses on the floor below LHO who heard brass hitting the floor after each shot. Also doesn’t consider the eyewitnesses in the press car who had just turned the corner and SAW LHO ahead in the window of the school book depository building.

AGAIN, most people have __not__ researched this to the depth I have.

See “Case Closed” by Gerald Posner as a starting point …

Milo
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 19, 2023 3:19 pm

Not true. Any Marine could have made that shot.

HotScot
Reply to  bonbon
May 18, 2023 3:25 pm

Judge Andrew Napolitano recites that Trump told him that even he was shocked at the unreleasable details of JFK’s assassination.

Now, as it’s been widely rumoured since that event that the CIA did it, that wouldn’t come as a shock to anyone.

So what would shock Trump enough to withhold the detail?

bonbon
Reply to  HotScot
May 19, 2023 1:05 am

Saw the Judge’s remark.Trump said if you had seen the files you would not have released them.
Speculation – how about foreign government intel? Files must be released!
Meanwhile RFK, Jr has done a 180 degree on climate.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  bonbon
May 19, 2023 8:05 pm

Meanwhile RFK, Jr has done a 180 degree on climate.”

He hasn’t. He’s only acknowledged that it’s being used as a crowbar to control the world, not that there isn’t a climate crisis.

Derg
Reply to  bonbon
May 18, 2023 4:38 pm

JFK JR better be careful riding around in any convertible with the CIA around.

More Soylent Green!
Reply to  Derg
May 19, 2023 6:46 am

JFK junior died in a plane crash in the 1990s. He’s dead.

Or is he?

MarkW
Reply to  bonbon
May 18, 2023 4:44 pm

Is there any form of nonsense you won’t help propagate?

MarkW
May 18, 2023 4:34 pm

When I see him actively campaigning to reverse the frakking ban and some of the other damage he has been involved with, I will be impressed.

John Oliver
May 18, 2023 5:00 pm

I had some trouble understanding who was actually talking in this article at times verses being quoted or commented on.
But putting that aside I have been very impressed With RFK he s persistent s to get to the “ truth” atleast in the form of all the documentary evidence. We need to see it all now on everything past and present. short of current military hardware and intelligence (foreign enemy related) And one other thing- it is nt just Covid vaccine they have been lying to you about though many are beneficial -risk/reward on many are not so favorable when you actually take a deep dive into the trials, post vac meta data etc. Don’t assume any thing that cabal told us in the past.

gdtkona
May 18, 2023 5:48 pm

“I don’t want the Democratic Party to be the party of fear and pharma and war and censorship.” “President Trump gets blamed for a lot of things that he didn’t do and he gets blamed for some things that he did do. But the worst thing that he did to this country, to our civil rights, to our economy, to the middle class in this country, was a lockdown.” “Ten centuries’ worth of wealth to pay for bailouts and lockdowns. We’re just printing money. And what happens to how is that paid off? Through inflation. And inflation is a tax on the poor.” “A lot of the ‘misinformation’ is just statements that depart from government orthodoxy. So, they have to either censor us or they have to lie about what’s true and what’s not true.” “It’s not racist or insensitive to say that we need to close our borders and have an orderly immigration policy.”
“The [climate] crisis has been, to some extent, co-opted — by Bill Gates and the World Economic Forum and the billionaire boys’ club in Davos — the same way that the Covid crisis was appropriated by them to make themselves richer, . . . to stratify our society, with very powerful and wealthy people at the top, and the vast majority of human beings with very little power and very little sovereignty over their own lives. Every crisis is an opportunity for those forces to clamp down controls.”
On Ukraine: “We’re there for the right reasons because we have tremendous compassion for the Ukrainian people and the illegal invasion, the brutality, and also their valor and their courage.” “…..as pawns in a proxy war between two great powers,” “to essentially sacrifice the flower of Ukrainian youth in an abattoir of death and destruction for the geopolitical ambition of the neocons, oft-stated, of regime change for Vladimir Putin and exhausting the Russian military so that they can’t fight anywhere else in the world.” “Every step that we’ve taken has been to enlarge the conflict and to maximize bloodshed,” “…..driving the Russians closer to the Chinese, which is the worst thing for us.” Quotes from RFK, Jr.

Mark Tokarski
May 19, 2023 4:55 am

Vladimir Lenin: “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” RFK is controlled opposition. I came to the same conclusion after reading his Fauci book. It is even a bit of a transparent ruse. MM strikes me as the same, which is why RFK and he ended up speaking publicly.

_Jim
Reply to  Mark Tokarski
May 19, 2023 2:44 pm

RFK Jr.

Neo
May 19, 2023 6:52 am

AP — Xi proposed establishment of a China-Central Asia partnership to develop oil and gas sources. He said Beijing wants to speed up construction of an additional pipeline to supply Central Asian gas to China’s energy-hungry economy and to promote nuclear power.

John Kerry call your office

niceguy12345
May 19, 2023 6:42 pm

But over the last decade, Kennedy’s visits to the New York State Capitol became less about environmental causes and more about attacking the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

You’d be hard pressed to prove the usefulness of these vaccines.
Do you even know that measles is a benign childhood disease?

RatMan29
May 21, 2023 6:34 pm

If his change of heart is genuine, we should welcome him as an ally. We need anyone we can get on board to stop the Great Reset and the criminal destruction of our rightful comfortable civilization.

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