California:  Atmospheric River and Misguided Climate Fear

By Steve Goreham

Originally published in The Washington Examiner.

For more than three weeks, California has been pummeled by a series of storms arriving one after another from the Pacific Ocean. Torrential rains, mud slides, power outages, and floods plague state residents from north of San Francisco down to Los Angeles, four hundred miles to the south. Scientists attribute this event to an “atmospheric river” condition in the Pacific Ocean. Many also claim that this phenomenon is due to human-caused climate change.

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, an atmospheric river is a long, narrow region in the atmosphere that can transport large amounts of water vapor, roughly equivalent to the average flow of water at the mouth of the Mississippi river. When atmospheric rivers make landfall, they release this water vapor in the form of rain or snow. An atmospheric river that forms in the tropics near Hawaii, sometimes called the Pineapple Express, can deliver large amounts of water to the U.S. West Coast.

This winter’s atmospheric river has been catastrophic. Ten different storms have stuck the California coast in the last three weeks. More than 20 people have died, thousands have been forced to evacuate their homes, and 25 million people are under a flood watch. The state averaged more than 11 inches of rain from late December to mid-January. The series of flooding storms were unexpected, following several years of severe drought in California.

Government leaders and some scientists blame human carbon dioxide emissions and climate change. In commenting on the flood damage, Governor Gavin Newsom said California was “proof that the climate crisis was real and that we have to take it seriously.” When touring damaged areas last week, President Joe Biden stated, “if anybody doubts the climate is changing, they must have been asleep for the past couple of years.”

But this has happened before. Geologic evidence shows that massive floods occur in California every century or two. A historic cataclysmic event was the great flood of the winter of 1861-1862. During December and January of that winter, a series of massive storms slammed, one after another, into the west coast of the state. This occurred after two decades of drought during 1840-1860. The event would also be called an atmospheric river by today’s scientists.

During the great flood of 1861-1862, a train of storms dumped record amounts of rain on California. Sixty-six inches of rain fell on Los Angeles, more than four times the yearly average. In early January, the capital city of Sacramento was submerged under ten feet of water. Governor Leland Sanford moved the legislature to San Francisco on January 22 to wait for the floods to subside. Sacramento remained flooded for months.

William Brewer toured California’s Central Valley at the end of January 1862 by boat. He wrote that the entire valley was a lake from the mountains in the east to the coast range hills on the west up to the tops of the 20-foot-high telegraph poles. One-quarter of the state’s estimated 800,000 cattle drowned during the flood.

Of course, the 1861-1862 event could not have been caused by to human-made global warming. There were no coal-fired power plants or Sport Utility Vehicles and only a few wood- or coal-burning locomotives. Most transportation was by horse and horse-drawn wagon. World carbon dioxide emissions at that time were less than a million times smaller than today’s emissions from industry. The flood of 1861-1862 demonstrated the power of natural weather events in Earth’s chaotic climate.

The Merriam-Webster dictionary provides one definition of superstition as “a false conception of causation.” The current California atmospheric river event is very similar to the 1861-1862 occurance, which could not have been caused by human emissions. There is no evidence that the current atmospheric river event is caused by human emissions either, but those afraid of human-caused climate change are claiming that this is the case.

It’s remarkable that so many intelligent people profess that the current California disaster is due to human-caused climate change. University professors, government officials, and the news media are among the believers. They seem to call every weather event “extreme.” They may also tell you that if we all drive electric cars and build wind turbines everywhere, we can eliminate atmospheric river events. This can best be described as modern superstition, on the level of past beliefs that witches caused crop failures. Instead, Californians must adapt to weather as they have throughout history.

Steve Goreham is a speaker on the environment, business, and public policy and author of the book Outside the Green Box: Rethinking Sustainable Development.

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January 23, 2023 10:16 pm

Excellent analysis! I remember reading an article that California has had the most rain in 1,500 years over the last 100 years, when the population boomed due to the agricultural expansion.
No new water retention efforts in the last 50 years…
And all the water lost to maintain the Sacramento delta smelt?

Reply to  schmoozer
January 23, 2023 11:20 pm

That’s CO2-induced climate change for ya

Reply to  schmoozer
January 24, 2023 11:01 am

> No new water retention efforts in the last 50 years…

Worse. Ignore the population tripling and just look at the idiocy of not dredging our existing reservoirs to restore nameplate capacity lost to silting. sending billions of tons of valuable soil back to the Central Valley would have benefited all and likely have been profitable.

Henry Pool
January 23, 2023 10:17 pm

It will get dryer soon.

Reply to  Henry Pool
January 24, 2023 12:33 am

But not with gas dryers.

Reply to  Henry Pool
January 24, 2023 6:57 am

The climate communicators are already lining up Chat GPT projects on drying.

Henry Pool
Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 24, 2023 9:20 am
Steve Case
January 23, 2023 10:21 pm

Great Flood of 1862 Wikipedia

You can Google the flood of 1900, the flood of 1901 , the flood of 1902, and so on to find out it floods somewhere every year.

Claims for “Climate Change” have either happened before, have been happening right along or aren’t true. There isn’t anything new.

Curious George
Reply to  Steve Case
January 24, 2023 7:31 am

Climate change was very severe in 1862.

Steve Case
January 23, 2023 10:41 pm

Here’s the NOAA Climate at a Glance plot of Los Angeles precipitation for January.

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Reply to  Steve Case
January 24, 2023 8:35 am

I just find it so funny that despite the data being publicly available and showing that there is no precipitation trend, people are still falling for the extreme weather BS. Michael Mann argues that this is outdated data and we should listen to “science.”

Reply to  Walter
January 25, 2023 2:40 am

What Michael Mann is saying between the lines is that they haven’t had a chance to change the ‘outdated’ data to fit their thesis. Once they do that, all extreme weather prior to ‘man made climate change’ will not exist.

John V. Wright
January 23, 2023 11:28 pm

It’s not remarkable Steve. Human history is littered with instances of mass hysteria where ‘normal’ people behave as a group in an illogical and unusual manner. The South Sea Bubble is one. In recent years Naziism is the best example. What is different in this case is that not only has mass media (television, radio) become truly global so that bizarre ideas become rapidly established but PERSONAL media (email/Twitter/Facebook etc.) has become instant and global too.
On top of this you also have vested interests with large stakes in supporting the narrative. And for me, speaking as a former journalist, the final brick in the wall is the complete failure of journalism. Too many journalists fail to ask the obvious questions, point out the obvious holes in the CAGW narrative, jump on the bandwagon because fear sells. Here in the U.K. many people still get their news and opinions from the BBC, an organisation so imbued with the CAGW doctrine that it’s journalists wouldn’t recognise impartiality if they fell over it in the street.
The end of the interglacial period and the coming of the ice sheets will bring an end to the hysteria. But it is a long time in human terms to wait – and we have to hope that as a lifeform we manage to survive the insanity while it lasts.

Steve Case
Reply to  John V. Wright
January 24, 2023 12:26 am

 “Too many journalists fail to ask the obvious questions.”

Methane is 86 times more powerful than CO2 at trapping heat.
And the journalists never ask, “How much warming is methane
projected to produce?”

Warm water is lapping at the grounding line of Greenland’s
glaciers and Journalists don’t ask, “Is this a new phenomenon?”

California is flooding, and journalists aren’t reporting the history
of California floods.

Reply to  Steve Case
January 24, 2023 4:19 am

Nor will they ever ask:
“Methane’s absorption spectrum is largely blanketed by that of water vapour which is present at 10 – 20,000 times methane’s concentration. So how much warming will methane ever produce?”

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Mikehig
January 24, 2023 5:22 am

I’m going to make a wild stab at none whatsoever.

Premium Cracker
Reply to  Mikehig
January 24, 2023 6:44 am

Methane produces quite a bit of warming when used properly.

Reply to  John V. Wright
January 24, 2023 1:35 am

It’s remarkable that so many intelligent people profess that the current California disaster is due to human-caused climate change.” I think the answer “lies in the soil” of this sentence…

Agree – BBC is no longer an outlet in which Journalists exist – Robin Aitken for one nailed that in “The Noble Liar” – but they are a “settled” agenda driven, 100% corrupt gaslighting operation partly funded by one of the most dangerous people on this earth…imho.

Reply to  186no
January 24, 2023 5:31 am

If they blame it on climate change, they aren’t too intelligent IMO!

Richard Greene
Reply to  John V. Wright
January 24, 2023 3:37 am

Is that true, or did you hear it on the BBC?

Substitute “New York Times” for BBC, for the US

Ronald Havelock
Reply to  John V. Wright
January 24, 2023 3:37 pm

It is not just the BBC. PBS’s “News Hour” hypes every weather event as “climate change.”
I stopped contributing a couple of years ago.

January 23, 2023 11:56 pm

Huh? Imagine that … The Russian River last flooded in 2019 (speaking of “CA’s worst drought ever in the history of the State”)

Huh? Imagine that … The Russian River has flooded the town of Guerneville 38 times since 1940. Did Gavin Newsom insist that ALL those floods were caused by sinful driving habits?

Richard Greene
Reply to  kenji
January 24, 2023 3:39 am

Yes, true, but the latest Russian River flood was the worst RR flood since the last worst RR flood

Gunga Din
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 24, 2023 7:15 am

By describing an event using those terms they can ignore what happened before the “last worst” whatever.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  kenji
January 24, 2023 5:12 am

I’m amazed that it’s not obvious that if you build in a flood plain that you get flooded.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 24, 2023 6:26 am

What’s more amazing is that building in flood plains or on the coasts is permitted without a requirement that the buildings be elevated above expected flood peaks for the location.

One would think that lesson would have been learned by now.

Reply to  AGW is Not Science
January 24, 2023 7:16 am

I suspect MOST of Guerneville and cabins along the shores of The Russian River were built prior to FEMA flood plain maps … which have also been updated more than once since 1940 … raising the BFE (Base Flood Elevation) above which floors need to be built.

And the flooding has increased in large part because upstream development of hard surfaces, and storm drains has added greatly to runoff directed into The Russian River. Development … not global warming … has caused more flooding. And CA has changed the building code in response, issuing what is known as C.3 Regulations that no longer allow new drainage to be put into storm drains. All new site drainage, roof drains, etc MUST be percolated onsite … not piped into storm drains. That’s ALSO at least part of the reason wealthy Montecito (where the hillside ground doesn’t percolate so well) experienced serious mud sliding.

Reply to  kenji
January 24, 2023 2:33 pm

Regional flooding is, and always was, regional flooding; it is not caused by (more) impervious area. With respect to the 1500 square mile basin, the impervious area is insignificant when the entire basin is saturated.

The river drains through the choke point below Guernville.

I don’t know much about it, but it appears that the Eel river diversion (300 sq miles?) into the Russian River basin would have a bit of an impact on the river flows. (Maybe extremely high flows aren’t diverted….)

When a river exceeds top of bank levels every two years or so, it seems a little silly to even call it flooding … it seems as if it is just river flow that has been impacted by development; Rather than infrastructure that is impacted by flooding.

Curious George
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
January 24, 2023 7:35 am

“Expected flood” – do we really know what flood to expect? A lot of work has been done on River Nile, but is it applicable in California? in Bangladesh?

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 24, 2023 7:55 am

It is obvious, but in the UK Local Authorities continue to approve house building on flood plains despite the fact the Government has had effectively to subsidise insurance for such home owners in a scheme with insurance companies. The LAs merely think of the Council Tax revenues they will receive from the people moving in to those homes.

abolition man
January 24, 2023 12:14 am

Great post, Steve!
For O’Biden to accuse anyone of being “asleep for the past couple of years” is so deeply ironic that I am having trouble deciding whether to call it abyssal or just abysmal! In any case, it is an abomination that politicians try to politicize weather events that are similar to, but not as extreme as, historical events!
J.V.Wright’s point about the end of the interglacial, and the return of the ice sheets bringing an end to this hysteria is of great concern to me, as I am quite certain that one of the next few periods of glacial advance will see atmospheric CO2 levels drop below 150ppm, and place nearly ALL life on Earth in jeopardy! Without an intelligent life form present to maintain an adequate level, our beautiful planet will become a largely lifeless hulk! And the present spread of the neo-Marxist contagions in Western schools and governments raises doubts about whether there is enough sentience left to prevent this from occurring!
Future generations will look back on the Church of Climastrology as a nihilistic death cult that, through ignorance or insanity, was apparently willing to kill off all living things to achieve their vision of a perfect world!

January 24, 2023 12:31 am

“Climate change” is global warming. Re-labeling does not change that. According to UAH satellite observations, the Globe has not warmed in over eight years. Before that, the warming was causing drought. You can ask Gavin Newsom about that, because he said so on many occasions.

So it must be that no warming is causing the atmospheric rivers. Cause and effect.

Richard Greene
Reply to  doonman
January 24, 2023 3:41 am

Climate change and global warming both mean predictions of CAGW to Climate Howlers

Wrong predictions since the 1979 Charney Report

That’s a lot of bad predictin’

Curious George
Reply to  doonman
January 24, 2023 7:44 am

You miss the point. Not only a heatwave is caused by climate change, but a cold wave as well, also drought, flood, rain, spring, summer, fall, winter ..

Reply to  doonman
January 24, 2023 8:38 am

I definitely believe in the pause but the current pause people cite from 2016 to present is not relevant and can not yet be argued as an official pause because we’ve had three La Ninas and only one incredibly weak El Niño. The El Niño next year will probably be stronger. If the temperature is still flat after next year’s El Niño, then we can definitely say there is a new pause.

Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 12:49 am
Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 12:59 am

Does La Niña work?
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January 24, 2023 1:01 am

Story tip

Something that I believe is serious climate news has not appeared in my radar before. It is in regards to a paper that was withdrawn from a Nature publication.

The paper is significant because it shows that the influence of the larger planets on the distance between the Earth and the Sun is not negligible. That means this distance changes, effecting Earth’s climate. 

It appears to have been retracted because it challenges the consensus of the climate “science being settled”. 

That comes from this link:

The actual paper can be found on this link:

Part of the abstract:

These oscillations of the baseline solar magnetic field are found associated with a long-term solar inertial motion about the barycenter of the solar system and closely linked to an increase of solar irradiance and terrestrial temperature in the past two centuries. This trend is anticipated to continue in the next six centuries that can lead to a further natural increase of the terrestrial temperature by more than 2.5 °C by 2600. 

A significant portion of the variation in the temperature in the Nino34 region can be explained by the movement of the sun around the barycentre of the solar system.

I believe the reason the paper was withdrawn is that there is a firm belief that Earth’s temperature is a function of accumulated energy rather than the instantaneous solar intensity of an hour, day, month or years. Most people who have made observations between day and night would confirm that solar intensity is a large driver of the surface temperature.

Once the movement of the sun comes into the equation, the 11 year beat dominates the decade weather changes but, as Zharkova’s paper points out, there are much longer beats in the movement of the sun.

The linked paper goes to original work on the sun movement about the barycentre:…125..150N

And attached is my first pass of a simplified model of the solar movement compared with the surface temperature in the southern part of the Nino34 region. I have only approximated the movement based on the planets assuming circular orbits of fixed radius rather than the much more complex conservation of momentum as set out in DE102.

If real scientists were able to get their work published then the CO2 causing climate change would die a quick death. Anything that does not fit the belief, gets trampled by the gatekeepers.

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Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  RickWill
January 24, 2023 1:21 am

SOI 1982-2023.
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Just see the beginning of the solar cycle 2011 and 2021.
SOI will remain positive until the peak of solar activity.

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Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  RickWill
January 24, 2023 1:37 am

Any self-respecting astronomer knows that Zharkova is right. The gravity of the large planets affects the orbits of the Sun and other planets, especially when they are close together. Not only the gravity of the planets, but also the extremely strong magnetic field of Jupiter (especially when it combines with Saturn’s magnetic field) affects the magnetic activity of the Sun.

Richard Greene
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 3:51 am

Zharkova is a mental case. In 2015 she claimed a new model of the Sun’s solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun’s 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the ‘mini ice age’ that began in 1645.

Only a fool would take her seriously!

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 24, 2023 9:06 am

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Richard Greene
Reply to  RickWill
January 24, 2023 3:47 am

,,, “closely linked to an increase of solar irradiance and terrestrial temperature in the past two centuries. This trend is anticipated to continue in the next six centuries that can lead to a further natural increase of the terrestrial temperature by more than 2.5 °C by 2600.”

There are no accurate measurements of top of the atmosphere solar intensity before the satellite age. So the first sentence is claptrap. A prediction of the future climate must be balanced against the inaccuracy of prior long term climate predictions — 100% wrong for at least the past century. So that prediction is claptrap too. I would be shocked if anyone would publish this nonsense.  However, if it claimed CO2 was evil, and would kill your dog, I believe it would have been published.

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 24, 2023 9:07 am

The trend of the Sun’s magnetic dipoles indicates that Zharkova is right.
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Don’t criticize a scientist who goes beyond the limits of human cognition.

Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 1:07 am

La Niña is working and will continue to work until the end of winter in the northern hemisphere.
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Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 8:39 am

The big question I have is what happens later this year and next winter? Lets hope the El Niño isn’t too strong.

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Walter
January 24, 2023 8:50 am

Are you worried that a rainforest will grow in California?

Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 3:49 pm

I think that Kings Canyon with the Giant Sequoias and the Northern California coast with the giant Redwoods could be considered rain forests, and some of those trees, living and dead, are over 3000 years old, so the rainforests have been in existence for at least that long.

Peta of Newark
January 24, 2023 2:15 am

Here’s a thought:” Rivers run downhill

So: there may have been an ‘atmospheric river’ but what caused it?
Water = water in one place (ocean) and not so much water in another place (California)

There’s maybe not a lot anyone can do about the amount of water in the ocean but there is about the amount in Cali

I’m gonna do 2 comments because I need to show you 2 pictures (of The Extinction – make a copy and keep ’em safe)

If there is a very modest amount (Read = Nil) water in ‘one’ place and the usual amount in the other, the gradient between one and t’other will be steep = The River, atmospheric or any other sort, will flow with considerable vigour.

Yes there was a river but what created kit was that it has somewhere to go.

Now see the pictures.
The one here is of an orchard near Merced, not far from Planada where The Flood was pretty serious, according to some.
But the flood wasn’t caused by the rain. Rain certainly was involved, but it’s what the rain landed upon that defined/created the flood.
Light coloured soil, no greenery, dust, rocks and stones for mile after mile after mile.

That is A Desert = a Picture of Hell = somewhere that The Extinction is almost complete.
There is No Life there apart from those trees. None.
And they’re trying to grow sugar there – good grief.

Should Jean-Luc Picard have been an octopus he still couldn’t get across a sufficient FacePalm.
If that doesn’t define an addict starving for a fix – what does?

What would have averted/diverted/defused/drained the Atmospheric River would simply have been to plant some greenery, any greenery, between those trees.
But no
Why: Because the greenery would have taken/stolen/used The Nutrients that the trees needed.
Holy Cow, the guys themselves, on the ground among the dirt, are admitting that the place/soil/dirt is highly eroded.
And what do they do: Make it worse. Growing sugar.
Is that madness. Is that sheer desperation. Is that starvation in action

Yet when they’ve created a near vertical water-gradient between themselves and the ocean and it dumps upon them – it’s everybody else’s fault.

See next picture- it is of the Planada Canal – an absolute beauty of a shot of soil erosion in action.
I recognise it – overgrazing by sheep in Cumbria UK, 5,000 miles away was causing the rivers there to look like that. I know, my farm was being eaten by exactly the same thing

And Atmospheric Rivers happened there too.
Search ‘Cockermouth Flooding’

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Peta of Newark
Reply to  Peta of Newark
January 24, 2023 2:24 am

As promised.
On the other side of the road the canal continues and you’ll see a sign advertising an Irrigation Company – presuming the very folks who engineered that train wreck
Oh hi Jean Luc, what’s that you say?

When humans can place one rock atop another, AND get it to stay there, tell me.
I ain’t holding no breath

How do we get that message across? Do we really need to go back to explaining Gravity?
(Can anyone actually do that yet, plenty examples maybe, but is there a REAL explanation for Gravity)

edit to PS
See the sky?
Zoom out a bit and it’s half and half contrails and Mare’s Tail (Cirrus0~
Anyone who knows anything about weather would have looked that sky and said; “Rain on the way”
Now check the date in the Google image

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Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Peta of Newark
January 24, 2023 2:57 am

What is needed are deep wells into aquifers into which rainwater could be injected. Maybe then sabal palm could be grown? I need a remedy.

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John Oliver
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 10:41 am

Perhaps you could start collecting 1000s of those plastic 55 gal drums and find some way to capture the water for future use. I find batches of them pretty cheap sometimes. Just a (crazy) idea

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  John Oliver
January 24, 2023 11:40 am

No, this method is already being used in California as an experiment. It is much cheaper than building new water reservoirs.

Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 3:59 pm

The Las Vegas Valley Water District injects water into the basin’s aquifers in the winter and pumps it out in the summer when more water is needed.

Years past when Nevada could not use its quota of Colorado river water they started to just pump in primarily to recharge the basin and bank water.

As you said Ireneusz, the water district uses the aquifer as a reservoir with the added benefit of no surface evaporation.

Now all Cali has to do is shoot all their liberal politicians, reestablish a poll tax, and then build storm water detention basins everywhere they might be needed, and injection umps to drain the runoff. Some new actual reservoirs are needed, but surface evaporation is a massive net loss that injection could prevent.

Tom Abbott
January 24, 2023 2:25 am

From the article: “According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, an atmospheric river is a long, narrow region in the atmosphere that can transport large amounts of water vapor,”

NOAA should just call it what it is: The Jet Stream. The jet stream is the atmospheric river. In this case, the subtropical jet stream blows off the Pacific ocean and straight into California and the West coast and this configuration continues for some weeks. Storm fronts follow the jet stream, so if the jet stream is streaming overhead then you are going to get one storm front after another coming over you until this jet stream configuration changes. This “atmospheric river” configuration is a common occurrence.

From the article: “Government leaders and some scientists blame human carbon dioxide emissions and climate change. In commenting on the flood damage, Governor Gavin Newsom said California was “proof that the climate crisis was real and that we have to take it seriously.” When touring damaged areas last week, President Joe Biden stated, “if anybody doubts the climate is changing, they must have been asleep for the past couple of years.”

Newsom and the Trafficer-in-Chief, Joe Biden can’t factually make such statements unless they can tell us how CO2 and this particular jet stream configuration are connected. It’s the jet stream configuration that is causing the excessive rain, not CO2.

This is where we are today: Alarmists claim every severe weather event is evidence that CO2 is involved and therefore needs to be controlled. There is no evidence this is the case. Alarmists are just making it up out of whole cloth. They’ve been singing this alarmist tune for decades and they still can’t produce any evidence to back up their claims. So they just lie, or ignorantly repeat climate change lies they have heard.

Newsom and Joe don’t know what they are talking about. They are not alone.

Look at this Nullschool graphic:,28.21,264/loc=-138.216,43.130

The jet stream has now changed from blowing straight across the Pacific ocean from Hawaii to California to now moving into a looping configuration (center marked) that is going to stop most of the moisture from going into California.

It’s the jet stream, stupid! Not CO2. If you know the configuration of the jet stream, then you can know what your weather is going to be like in the near term.

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Ireneusz Palmowski
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January 24, 2023 2:39 am
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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 8:44 am

I saw those numbers. Minus 50C! And it’s headed this way. How long will it take to get here? Middle of February maybe?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 24, 2023 5:19 pm

Joe says it is liable to be the coldest Groundhog Day on record for some places.

Richard Greene
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 24, 2023 3:55 am

I preferred the old days when all we had were precipitation, hurricanes and tornadoes
No atmospheric rivers
No bomb cyclones
No weather was claimed to be unprecedented, or blamed on climate change

Reply to  Richard Greene
January 24, 2023 7:27 am

FEAR sells. And fabricated FEAR is needed to support those “whole cloth lies”. Atmospheric Rivers and Bomb Cyclones are Hollywood-speak FEAR Titles … like Sharknado That’s it … I’m now calling every storm to hit CA … a Sharknado!!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 24, 2023 8:46 am

I prefer those days, too. The days before the Human-caused Climate Change Virus/Religion took over the Western world.

January 24, 2023 4:35 am

11 inches in three weeks? Heck, we get 11 inches in a single day every year or two here in Florida. That’s a typical month in wet season here. 11 inches in three weeks is almost nothing – that comes to half an inch a day, which would be completely unremarkable.

That’s no “catastrophe”.

The problems experienced in California with that volume of rainfall has little to do with the volume of rainfall but rather the heavy development in California combined with poorly designed, built, or maintained stormwater management systems.

I lived in California 50 years ago .. it was always something with the weather. It was either too dry, resulting in massive brush fires, which denuded all the mountain and hill sides, then it was too wet in the winter, resulting in massive floods and mudslides, caused by the denuded hill and mountain sides that burned off during the dry season.

That ain’t “climate change” – that’s “normal weather” in California.

Reply to  Duane
January 24, 2023 7:47 am

100% correct. In response to the overdevelopment, CA has passed (relatively) new drainage regulations. All new development has to drain all the hard surfaces – onsite. None can be discharged into storm drains. And if your developed area is >10,000 sq ft you need a Civil Engineer to prepare a SWIP (storm water improvement plan) … that calculates ALL drainage on your building site … at great cost. And ALL of it must be drained ONTO your building site. No more paved parking areas dumping water into storm drains.

Funny thing … desert States subject to flash flooding … and I believe Florida where rainfall can be ENORMOUS have always had similar regulations that require massive detention basins to be built on each project site which hold the water until it percolates into the soil. Only recently has CA made this mandatory.

Speaking of normal weather … I find it interesting that neither Gavin Newsom nor Jao Bidinh have mentioned the ENORMOUS snowpack in the central Sierra. Mammoth had to CLOSE because of too much snow, and Palisades (formerly Squaw Valley) is reporting RECORD amounts of snow. Instead … all the climate change shill media moan that … “the drought isn’t over” … because reservoirs aren’t full. Hey geniuses! They’re NEVER full this time of year. Peak reservoir levels come in July!! After the snowmelt has peaked and mostly finished. Yeah, yeah, it appears counter intuitive that reservoirs are at their peak in the dry, hot summer … you media numbskulls … but that’s how melting snow works.

Reply to  kenji
January 24, 2023 11:11 am

To clarify reservoir levels at this time. Many are releasing above normal amounts in anticipation of future snowmelt while reserving capacity to do their jobs at flood control. Lakes like Castaic are 88% and discharging as much as necessary to keep keep that margin.

Reply to  Giving_Cat
January 25, 2023 11:32 am

Indeed. And the poster-reservoir for global warming … Lake Folsom … is near 100% full and still releasing like crazy for flood control. But there are no weepy stories about how far below “normal” the reservoir is … like the others cherry-picked by the warmist shill media.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duane
January 24, 2023 8:48 am

“That ain’t “climate change” – that’s “normal weather” in California.”

Exactly right! Somebody tell Gavin Newsom.

January 24, 2023 5:29 am

It’s all drama, all the time anymore.

Starting Wednesday morning the NWS has us under a “Winter Storm Warning”. Says that we will receive 6 to 8 inches of snow and 35 mph winds here in central Indiana. Since when is 6-8″ of snow with a 35 mph wind a “storm”?

That’s just a descent snow! Certainly not a “storm”!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  rah
January 24, 2023 8:52 am

Here in Eastern Oklahoma we are just now getting this winter storm moving in. We are getting a little rain and then it turns to three to six inches of snow. We need the moisture so it is welcome news, and the roads are warm enough that driving should not be too much of a problem.

January 24, 2023 6:55 am

Add it to the misguided public policies on floodwater retention, forest management, and budget planning. But be happy for the small private efforts to retain water.

January 24, 2023 8:32 am

The great flood of 1861-62 was a natural event, but the recent California flooding was a man-made event.

The 1861-62 flooding was preceded by a long drought, as was the California flooding. The cause of the earlier drought was an 11 year period without any VEI4 or larger volcanic eruptions, resulting in no dimming volcanic SO2 aerosols circulating in the atmosphere, and, consequently, higher temperatures.

Without SO2 moisture nucleation sites, rainfall decreases, but evaporation increases,.causing the atmosphere to become moisture-laden. This moisture eventually precipitates out, somewhere, in periods of intense rainfall, as in California, Texas, and our South-East. .

With respect to the recent California rainfall, it was also caused by a reduction in atmospheric SO2 aerosol levels, this time primarily due to global “Clean Air” efforts to reduce levels of Industrial SO2 aerosol pollution, and the banning of the burning of fossil fuels (which also produce SO2 aerosols) due to Net-Zero activities, thus,the rainfall was man-made.

And we can expect more of the same!

See: “Net-Zero Catastrophe Beginning?”

The answer appears to be Yes!

Curious George
Reply to  BurlHenry
January 24, 2023 4:14 pm

“the recent California flooding was a man-made event”
I’ll take your word for it.

Reply to  Curious George
January 24, 2023 6:04 pm

Curious George:

Do i detect a bit of sarcasm?

Everything that I stated were facts.

Whenever there are 3 or more years between stratospheric volcanic eruptions, temperatures begin to rise. Or if industrial SO2 aerosol emissions are decreased by about the same amount.

January 24, 2023 8:37 am

Even the LA Times, a blatantly Progressive newspaper, discounted CC as the reason for the recent rainfall in a front page leading article. I’ve been through several of these “atmospheric rivers” in Southern California and this one was the most mild for my location and recollection.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
January 24, 2023 9:06 am

Atmospheric River, in this case is a weather phenomenon that for decades has been called “The Pinapple Express”, since the stream of moisture comes from the vicinity of Hawaii and proceeds straight to the U.S. West Coast.

This is a recurring weather phenomenon over the decades and no connection with CO2 has ever been established (and that would go for every other weather phenomenon, too).

A good question to ask is what causes this periodic condition in the northern pacific ocean? No CO2 connection that can be seen, so what drives it?

Earth’s weather is just a little more complicated than: CO2 = Greenhouse gas = Extreme weather. That only works for simpletons.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 24, 2023 10:31 am

Tom Abbott:

You asked “what causes this periodic condition in the northern pacific ocean”

See my 8:32 am comment, above.

Dennis Gerald Sandberg
January 24, 2023 8:55 am

I’ve been in California for 12 years. Two weeks ago I had the biggest puddle ever in my backyard and I wondered, is this amount of rainfall “unprecedented”? So I did some checking.
Here’s some data from Central Coast Paso Robles, CA dating back to 1942/43 (average rainfall 14 inches)

1968/69 total rainfall: 31.25 inches including 13.93 inches in January and 9.12 inches in February.

1997/98 total rainfall: 27.09 including 9.06 inches in February.

Going back to 1968/69 with two back to back months totally more than 23 inches happened, if it happens again in 2022/23 it won’t be “unprecedented”, and even if it’s a few percentage greater, it’s not “proof of catastrophic anthropogenic existential threatening climate change”.

In the past week, we’ve had a few sprinkles of rain and the forecast for the rest of the month is partly cloudy to sunny, with no rain forecast. Rain total for January, 2023: 10.34 inches. What does it look like? Little less than 1968/69, little more than 1997/98. Yawn.

Reply to  Dennis Gerald Sandberg
January 24, 2023 10:30 am

I’ve been in California ALL of my 67 years, and my father 75 years before me, and my grandmother 93 years before that, and my great grandparents drove cross country in 1919 in their Model-T to be here in CA and spent their last 50+ years here. So I have great PERSONAL experience with CA weather … both by direct experience and legacy story-telling. Without even checking the numbers, I can say with certainty this winter rains are NOT unusual … they are cyclical. Nor has our (still current) “drought” been unusual. 3 years of normal and/or below normal rains is HARDLY the “worst drought in the history of CA” (as every next drought always is …)

I suspect the vast majority of Californian’s haven’t been here very long … even those who didn’t crash our southern border. So it’s really easy for the global warming propaganda machine to convince an unwitting public that the sky if falling. No it’s not. We are being LIED TO. It’s that simple.

Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 9:30 am

Climate should be considered over a 60-year period (which is officially respected in measurements by taking a 30-year period for comparison). Any weather phenomena that recur during these periods should be considered completely natural within the specified climate.

Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 9:43 am

Real climate change occurs in the stratosphere, not the troposphere, and is closely related to solar activity and the ozone zone. It is in the stratosphere that changes in circulation occur under the influence of changes in ozone production.
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Take this as a warning to the US.
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Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 9:59 am

What threatens Canada at the end of January? It’s not CO2, but stratospheric ozone.
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Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 11:33 am

AbstractDifferential rotation of Earth’s inner core relative to the mantle is thought to occur under the effects of the geodynamo on core dynamics and gravitational core–mantle coupling. This rotation has been inferred from temporal changes between repeated seismic waves that should traverse the same path through the inner core. Here we analyse repeated seismic waves from the early 1990s and show that all of the paths that previously showed significant temporal changes have exhibited little change over the past decade. This globally consistent pattern suggests that inner-core rotation has recently paused. We compared this recent pattern to the Alaskan seismic records of South Sandwich Islands doublets going back to 1964 and it seems to be associated with a gradual turning-back of the inner core as a part of an approximately seven-decade oscillation, with another turning point in the early 1970s. This multidecadal periodicity coincides with changes in several other geophysical observations, especially the length of day and magnetic field. These observations provide evidence for dynamic interactions between the Earth’s layers, from the deepest interior to the surface, potentially due to gravitational coupling and the exchange of angular momentum from the core and mantle to the surface.

Ireneusz Palmowski
January 24, 2023 3:11 pm

A powerful snowstorm is developing in Oklahoma, Arkansas and Missouri. 
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January 24, 2023 5:56 pm

Very good. The only thing I would change is this: “It’s remarkable that so many intelligent people profess that the current California disaster is due to human-caused climate change. University professors, government officials, and the news media are among the believers.” It should read educated instead of intelligent. Higher education seems to have less and less to do with intelligence, university academics,
government officials and the news media are prime examples.

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January 24, 2023 6:55 pm

The reaction to any significant weather event by the climatists just reinforces that they are involved in a cult. Now if they would just drink whatever elixir which allows them to transition to the mother ship and leave the rest of us alone would be just fine.
Wait. If most of them got the jab…never mind.

Ireneusz Palmowski
January 25, 2023 4:36 am

A major snowstorm in the US is moving north to the Great Lakes.

Ireneusz Palmowski
January 25, 2023 8:40 am

This will be the pattern of the polar vortex at the end of January at 10 hPa. The strongest wind will be from Siberia over the central Arctic and Greenland and over North America the air will swirl the other way, from east to west.
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Jon Le Sage
January 26, 2023 9:41 am

Not sorry, but these storms are not that unusual. Growing up in Los Angeles in the 1950’s and 60’s, there were winter storms of the same magnitude and duration as what we experienced with these most recent weather events. Also the winter of 68/69, 82/83, and the early 90’s.. These storms are what made surfing fun back in the day… It’s too bad our state government, or lack thereof, doesn’t seem to be interested in capturing some of the millions of acre feet of water that flowed out to the Pacific Ocean. Call it gross negligence, or just plain stupidy, take your pick…

January 26, 2023 1:06 pm

For the last few years we’ve been hearing sob stories about the drought in California, expensive mansion burning up in forest and brush fires, Lake Mead drying up, etc. Now the same people are crying about too much rain–at least now they have enough water for tears!

But in any environment where some resource is scarce most of the time, and plentiful (or overabundant) part of the time, the logical human reaction is to accumulate the resource in times of plenty, and slowly use it during the time of scarcity.

This is hardly a new idea. In the book of Genesis, Joseph (an assistant to the Pharaoh) has a dream telling him there would seven years of abundant harvests, followed by seven years of poor harvests. On Joseph’s advice, the Pharaoh decided to store up food from the abundant years, enabling his to people to be fed during the lean years.

Whether this is actual history or legend remains uncertain, but over 2,000 years ago the Roman empire built aqueducts to transport water from melting snow in the Alps and Appenine mountains toward cities along the Mediterranean, where fresh water was scarce during hot, dry summers. Some of these aqueducts still function today, while others have been converted to railroad bridges.

In the mid-19th century, the Mormon settlers near Salt Lake City encountered very dry summers, which resulted in poor crop yields. However, there was a large freshwater lake (Utah Lake) at the south end of the valley, and a small river (Jordan River) flowing north into the Great Salt Lake (where the salt water was unusable). Water was abundant during the spring due to snowmelt from the Wasatch Mountains to the east, but scarce during summer and autumn, when rain was scarce and the mountaintops were snow-free.

Faced with this problem, the early settlers built a series of small dams and canals to divert water from Utah Lake and spring snowmelt, in order to slow down the flow and keep water flowing to their farms throughout the summer and autumn. The canals function to this day, and the Salt Lake Valley remains much greener than most of the lowlands in Utah.

So when will the California state government borrow an idea from the ancient Caesars or 19th-century Mormons and build dams, reservoirs, and irrigation canals to accumulate water during times of heavy rainfall to be used during periods of drought? This would also help alleviate downstream flooding and soil erosion during heavy rains, and dams could also be used to generate hydroelectric power to run air conditioners during heat waves. If you live in a Roman-like climate, Gavin, why not do as the Romans did?

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