Essay by Eric Worrall
Poor timing guys, Halloween was a week ago.
Why scientists are using the word scary over the climate crisis
The former BBC environment analyst Roger Harrabin has spent his career talking to scientists. Now they’re telling him they’re scared of what they’re seeing
Roger Harrabin Mon 7 Nov 2022 19.30 AEDT
Back in the 1980s, when climate research began to really take off, scientists were desperate to retain their credibility as they unravelled the potentially dire consequences of the “new” phenomenon of global warming. Most journalists tiptoed round this topic because no one wanted to lose their reputation by scaremongering. But as the science steadily became overwhelming researchers pushed their conclusions in the face of policymakers.
More and more scientists are now admitting publicly that they are scared by the recent climate extremes, such as the floods in Pakistan and west Africa, the droughts and heatwaves in Europe and east Africa, and the rampant ice melt at the poles.
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The heat phenomenon in the Canadian town of Lytton, for instance, produced a “dome” of trapped heat that cranked up the temperature to 49.6C. Wildfires raged and the town was razed. I broke the news to one of the Royal Society’s leading members, Prof Sir Brian Hoskins, but at first he did not believe me. Then he said: “Oh, my god, that’s really scary.”
Scientists are also frustrated by the limitations of their knowledge. Prof Richard Allan, a lead author for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), said: “Climate change is only going to get worse. A global rise of 1.5C will be much worse than now. But when you get down to local scales we’re getting extremes than the models can’t capture. That includes local-scale droughts and floods. It’s these events that are difficult to picture.”
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/07/why-scientists-are-using-the-word-scary-over-the-climate-crisis
Seriously? Is this the $trillion disaster they’ve all been warning us about? A freak hot day in a Canadian town?
49.9C (121F) is hot, but totally survivable. I used to work in temperatures hotter than 49.9C. One particularly hot day the temperature hit 55C (131F) in the factory. There were clouds of steam floating around the factory floor, from the leaky hydraulic hot presses. The management brought us drinks every 5 minutes, but we kept on working. It never occurred to us to stop – we had bills to pay.
I feel sorry for people who lost their homes in the Lytton fires – but in Australia we’ve learned the hard way, it is much more effective to protect yourself from forest fires by clearing the area around your home, than by investing in wind turbines. I know this is a difficult concept for some politicians and climate scientists to understand, but fire needs something to burn. No flammables, no fire. Especially those highly flammable resin filled pines I see in all those pictures of Canada.
People are scared by what they don’t understand. Sure “climate scientists” are scared by climate..
Its effinn’ weather pussies!!! As i approaching Eight( 8 ) decades on this blue marble, the lack of research, or experience by everybody is stunning.
It is very easy to frighten some people….especially those who have been drinking Kool-aid of their own concoction . So many emotional cripples in our society.
“Carbon” has become an evil force, not unlike the “witches” of centuries ago. It is pure hysteria on a mass scale.
Wildlands management tends to treat Aborigines or American Indians as if they never existed, and the wildlands were never actively managed, mostly with controlled fires.
Active grazing will mimic some of the effects of controlled fires, but the attitude that the way to care for wildlands is to “leave them alone” is pure Disney nature “documentary” from the 1950’s. People are evil, you see, and apart from “nature”.
The problem with leaving them alone is that man has managed them for centuries.
Leaving them alone doesn’t imply that they’ll return to the nirvana they were in the past.
Or that the past was necessarily “nirvana.”
Read The Ecological Indian–Myth and History. Shepard Krech III. No machines to control their fires, some environmental knowledge necessary for survival, some not so good, some beyond their capacity.
Climate “Scientists” are scared that their fraud will be revealed, and their funding will come to an end.
“”But when you get down to local scales we’re getting extremes than the models can’t capture. “”
I wouldn’t worry, the models are junk. This is probably the wettest drought I’ve ever experienced!
And at the same time as the dryest flood
Methinks what they’re mostly scared about is losing their livelihoods when their fake crisis is finally exposed and all their supportive politicians are replaced with people with common sense. It’s a shame they have done so much damage to science and so much trust will have been lost.
With the passage of Biden’s GND, the monies feeding the climate scam are now so huge that large businesses, greedy very rich elitists, very corrupt government officials and countries are eyeing the funds as theirs.
Government employees, small businesses, activists and independent climastrologists are likely to be cut out of the carbon demonization funding channels. They can still support the IRA’s fake science, but the grifting experts will take over all of the significant climate fund allotments.
So the small time climate alarmists have every right to be scared.
I imagine what really frightens them is the prospect that the trough may eventually not be filled and the long pigs will have only each other for lunch.
It’s about time their funding dried up. It hit other fields years ago.
Hysteria is a money making business now, especially when the governments can use it to increase their power.
“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.”
— Charles MacKay
Lytton, for those unfamiliar with the town, is situated ina very hot, very dry area that frequently records the hottest temperatures in Canada. Yes that heat dome was unusual, but the town could have burned on any hot day of any summer of the past if a fire started at one end of town and was pushed by a strong wind as happened that day.
Some people act as if a hot day will cause buildings, cars, trees and people to spontaneously combust, FFS. High winds on a day when the temperature is cool, say 5 to 0C (41F-32F) will make it very hard to extinguish a blaze. Happens all over, every winter.
Perhaps Harrabin can explain why the fear of global warming took over from the fear of another ice age, which was the consensus in the 1970s?
It’s much scarier to freeze in the dark, and to have your income reduced, and your cost of living greatly increased, all in the name of some faceless scientist who gets paid to scare you.
‘Climate scientists are scared of what they are seeing.’ They should also be embarrassed by what they are seeing:
It is scary when you have been big picture wrong for now 40 years. Grants could get cut. Climate science jobs could be at risk—after all, if the science is settled who needs climate scientists any more?
You just gave me my new comeback if anyone even tries bringing up “climate”—if the science is settled why do we need climate scientists?
The scientists are still predicting a coming crisis that their “management” wants predicted, and getting paid for their wrong predictions of doom, and playing computer games for pay too!
What happened to the bullet point “no hotspot” found?
Subsumed in point 1. To expand: models have a tropical troposphere hotspot that does not exist; they produce half the ocean rainfall observed by ARGO; they get the sign of cloud feedback wrong. As a result, they run hot and produce an ECS twice observational energy budget methods.
“The heat phenomenon in the Canadian town of Lytton, for instance, produced a “dome” of trapped heat that cranked up the temperature to 49.6C.”
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I checked on Google Earth, and Lytton is in a river valley at about 650 feet (give or take) above sea level surrounded by mountains that rise to much higher elevations. I am not a scientist, but I will hazard a guess that the geography of the area might has something to do with it.
What do you think Roger? Just my two cents worth.
The timing was set to coincide with US mid-term elections.
and with the COP27 shindig
Em-pathetic transpiration.
Theatre. Schtick. Performance Art.
Andrew
Looks like it is not only children who believe fairy tales.
The absurdity ends when we stop swallowing the bovine excrement. We just have to stop believing the barrage of lies. Complying with absurd orders is not the way to gain freedom-it just emboldens the tyrants.
It is not as though we have not been warned- Aesop’s fables from 600BC and others are warnings from the past of treacheries that are endemic to the human species.
The reading list for those that still belong in diapers- the lamb and the wolf, the boy who cried wolf, the Emperor’s new clothes, the Pied Piper, Chicken Little, the song- there’s a hole in the bucket. Even Santa Claus is a lesson- those nearest and dearest will lie to the bitter end-you have to wake up yourself.
Like children who eventually question Santa Claus through the barrage of propaganda, we must induce those adults that never learned to question to start seeking answers for themselves. Telling does not work-showing and leading others to wake themselves up is the road to obtaining the coveted propaganda vaccine.
COMING CLIMATE CHANGE CRISIS PROPAGANDA IS SO EFFECTIVE THAT IT PREVENTS MOST PEOPLE FROM ENJOYING TODAY’S WONDERFUL CLIMATE.
U.S. HURRICANES MAKING LANDFALL HAVE BEEN IN A DOWNTREND SINCE THE LATE 1800s.
MAJOR US TORNADOES HAVE BEEN IN A DOWNTREND SINCE THE 1950s.
US HEAT WAVES, DROUGHTS AND FOREST FIRE ACRES BURNED
PEAKED IN THE 1930s.
THE 1930s STILL HAVE THE MOST US STATE MAXIMUM HEAT RECORDS OF ANY DECADE, BY FAR.
We should be celebrating the current, wonderful climate !
We love the warmer winters here in Michigan.
Jim Phelps interview of “Dirty secrets of Calif. clean energy”
The “Dirty Secrets” of California’s Clean Energy | Jim Phelps – YouTube
Once again people who have the nerve to call themselves “scientists” can’t tell the difference between “climate” and WEATHER. Which is what every example they claim to be shivering in their boots IS.
Of course, some of it is also nonsense, like the claim of “rampant ice melt at the poles.”
Just nature saying ‘boo’ to ignorant geese calling themselves ‘scientist’.
Rock-a-bye baby, in the treetop
When the wind blows, the cradle will rock
When the bough breaks, the cradle will fall
And down will come baby, cradle and all
A local, to the Pacific NW, meteorologist by the name of Cliff Mass published this blog debunking the attribution of the heat dome to global warming. But it doesn’t matter, the dome and the fire have a life of their own in the b.s. business.
https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2021/07/was-global-warming-cause-of-great.html
It’s worse than we thought, a journalist educating a trained scientist. Oh the humanity. It just goes to show you how impressed journalists are with themselves and what a pathetic lot are passing for scientists these days.
What’s really scary is the solutions!
From brownouts to blackouts to EV battery fires to …, real harm is being done to stop Ma’ Gaia form doing what Ma’ Gaia has always done.
I think that they are scarred.
I thought the Lytton fire was started by a train, pulling a rail car with locked brakes. I remember seeing a video of the train going past the town, with one of the rail cars shooting sparks from its wheels.
People who project their own fragility onto the relentless force which is nature are hopelessly deluded.
Harrabin.
Screamer. Ignore.
Auto
Those interested in the effect of emotions on global problems might like to read a review of the movie “The Trick” featuring the BBC inventing what went on with Climategate and its actor Phil Jones.
The review is hilarious, but accurate. Geoff S
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2022/11/climategate-the-film-boffins-turning-tricks/
“But when you get down to local scales we’re getting extremes than the models can’t capture.”
So the [non-existent] extremes are both evidence that they were right, and something they couldn’t predict?
Typical lefty scare tactics. Frighten the gullible with fabricated calamities.
The Camp Fire in Paradise California has been blamed on Climate change. Yet the problem all along in Paradise California was the tree huggers did not want to clear out a large enough fire break to protect the town. The fight over trees and the fear of fire was a like a plague on Paradise for decades. Everyone with a brain in their head knew the town would eventually be turned to ash decades before anyone uttered the words “global warming/climate change”. My Grandfather lived in Paradise in the 1970-1994, and he would not let me visit during droughts for fear I would be killed in a fire. It is tragic that the hospital he died in burnt to the ground.
The self-righteousness of tree huggers trumped the reality of the actual fire risk and the genuine reality-based fear of their neighbors.
Weather extremes are not climate extremes. It takes 30 years of weather to define a climate. The “scary” parts described here are all weather events. The terms “weather” and “climate” are not interchangeable. That’s why words have definitions. Roger Harrabin needs a dictionary as he has obviously misplaced his.
And yet … here we are at the receding end of the Holocene, waiting for winter snow accumulations to last through summer. Glaciation anyone?