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May 11, 2022 2:47 am

Elevator speech (approx 30-60 secs)
Wait in line for coffee speech (3-5 minutes)

I have learnt so much from WUWT and read a lot of sceptic to sceptic conversations. But I am interested in up to date ways for short sharp sceptic to public conversations. As a sceptic( well really a denier) of CAGW I am always looking for better ways to convince fence sitting work colleagues.
Any thoughts of the most important topics for quick climate change discussions/speeches.
(I note Rud has started pushing the Failed predictions )
Thanks in advance.

Reply to  Waza
May 11, 2022 2:59 am

I believe Alex Epstein is doing incredible work in the area of persuasion. Although he is not as skeptical of the “science” as I am, his work on the benefits of fossil fuels is incredible. He believes that human flourishing is done via fossil fuels.

Reply to  Waza
May 11, 2022 4:38 am

We expect a high correlation between A and B

  • A = being a French citizen
  • A = being a teacher
  • A = being a non scientist
  • A = having studied humanities

and B = being aligned with the warmist mantra

Yet I once talked to a French philosophy teacher, and while not saying it exactly, he ostensibly implied that he did not follow indirect, model based “evidence” and was not in the common crowd.

Dan Sudlik
Reply to  Waza
May 11, 2022 5:07 am
  1. why start temperature work in 1850? End of little ice age. Do you want to go back to that time with low CO2, people starving, people freezing?
  2. there has always been climate change. Last ice age NYC was under a mile of ice. Want to go back to that?
  3. if research showed that climate change was wonderful and helpful to humanity would the scientists get more funding?
  4. it only takes on skeptic to change science. World was flat till it wasn’t. Einstein changed much of science forever. Or at least till someone proves him wrong. That’s what science is.
Joe Gordon
Reply to  Dan Sudlik
May 11, 2022 1:24 pm

One of the many traits that made Einstein a once-in-a-generation genius was that he fully expected to be proven wrong in the future. It didn’t bother him. He welcomed the challenge. I wonder how he’d answer today’s “scientists” and their religious fervor in their declarations of doom?

Reply to  Waza
May 11, 2022 6:26 am

As well as short, sharp discussion points, I reckon we also need the “overwhelming volume of facts” paper.

To wit – next month is the 50th anniversary of the start of UNEP (United Nations Environmental Prrogramme), which began issuing the doom and gloom predictions.
So we’ve now had 50 years of ever-increasing doom predictions, none of which have eventuated.

Why isn’t this epic fail of “science” being called out?

Maybe it shouldn’t be regarded as “science” at all?

Reply to  Mr.
May 12, 2022 3:34 am

My friend, eminent climate scientist Dr Madhav Khandekar complemented me on this paper, but also said I had omitted one point. I said, “I know Madhav, but I just got tired of writing.”

“There are numerous highly credible observations that falsify the CAGW hypothesis and many are listed herein, but as Albert Einstein famously stated ‘One would be enough’.”


Reply to  Allan MacRae
May 12, 2022 10:17 am

Thanks Allan.

This from your paper says it all –

“The ability to correctly predict significant climate events is probably the best objective measure of scientific competence in the field of climate.
It is important to note that every scary prediction made by the Global Warming/Climate Change alarmists has failed to materialize –
they have a perfect negative predictive track record and thus perfect negative credibility . “

Rick C
Reply to  Waza
May 11, 2022 7:56 am

How about: We’ve seen about a 100 ppm (0.01%) increase in CO2 in 100 years. Water vapor in the atmosphere (a more potent GHG) varies by about +/- 1.5% (15,000 ppm). The difference in water vapor concentration between 2.00% and 1.99% or 2.01% would be more significant in terms of green house effect than the entire change on C02 concentration that’s been observed. But we have no way of precisely measuring global average water vapor so we have no way to determine what, if any, effect carbon dioxide might be having. Hence climate alarmists resort to computer models to calculate the CO2 theoretical effect – but to get an alarming result they must include an assumption that temperature increase caused by CO2 must cause an increase in H2O. That assumption is not supported by observational evidence.

Reply to  Rick C
May 11, 2022 9:42 pm

They say it’s a “forcing”…
When I hear “forcing”, I think “plunger in the toilet tank being pulled up”: I can force more water in the tank.
I don’t think climate is a plunger so…

John K. Sutherland.
Reply to  Waza
May 11, 2022 9:21 am

Waza. I can shut up most CAGW promoters with a simple question….

‘What level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere should we aim for? And why?’

They usually cannot answer that simple question because they’ve never thought about it.

You can also ask what average Global Temp. we should aim for (as ridiculous as such a number would be).

Or. What is the most abundant ‘Greenhouse gas?’

Rich Davis
Reply to  John K. Sutherland.
May 11, 2022 3:35 pm

Is the right goal to shut up CAGW promoters? I don’t think so. The right goal should be to persuade persuadable people.

Jim Veenbaas
Reply to  Waza
May 11, 2022 11:22 am

A lot of people may disagree, but I would start by emphasizing the insanity of net zero. These policies will cripple the economies of the west, without making any meaningful cuts to CO2. The emission cuts we make, and the devastating economic impact they inflict, mean nothing if China and India keep building a new coal plant every other day.

This is not an emotional argument. It’s not even a scientific argument. It’s just simply logic. Even people who are deluded by the catastrophe narrative can’t argue against this logic.

Reply to  Waza
May 11, 2022 2:46 pm

WOW that’s amazing
Thanks for the feedback.
With the numerous amount of anti CAGW arguments, no wonder alarmists don’t want to have a rational debate.

Reply to  Waza
May 11, 2022 10:21 pm

A climate fanatic will not be swayed by a few facts offered over a brief encounter.
It would be better to use Derg’s suggestion of utilizing Alex Epstein’s ideas: try
to make the moral case for fossil fuels rather than pure climate skepticism.
Remind them that worldwide >2 million people die each year from indoor respiratory diseases due having to use wood or dung to heat their home or cook their food.
Thus the current climate policies limiting energy are responsible for real, ongoing deaths which is imoral.
Show them that you care about people! And by doing so, you will make it harder for them to dismiss your other positions due to your humanistic stance.
And laugh, smile and even say “I don’t know”, ie don’t be strident or condescending.
As someone on WUWT has mentioned: most of the people have been duped into believing in a climate crisis. All they are exposed to are the strawman arguments foisted on the skeptics by the climate “knaves”. Above all, be patient.
Good Luck!

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Waza
May 11, 2022 2:55 pm

“Warmer is better”

Reply to  Waza
May 12, 2022 3:46 am

On Failed Global Warming Predictions:

By the end of 2020, the climate doomsters (aka the IPCC and the radical greens) were proved wrong in their scary climate predictions 48 times. At 50:50 odds for each prediction, that is like flipping a coin 48 times and losing every time! The probability of that being mere random ignorance is 1 in 281 trillion! But no sensible person makes a 50:50 prediction – at 60:40 the odds against being this wrong are 1 in 13 quintillion; at 70:30 the odds are 1 in 13 septillion. Stop being respectful to these blatant CAGW fraudsters.
“The ability to correctly predict is the best objective measure of scientific and technical competence.
Our scientific predictions on both Climate and Covid are infinitely more accurate than the mainstream narratives, which have been false and baselessly alarmist to date.
I have been criticized for repeating this message. Frankly, I’m waiting for some of you guys to catch up. 🙂

Last edited 1 year ago by Allan MacRae
May 11, 2022 2:49 am
Reply to  Krishna Gans
May 11, 2022 4:24 am

The MSNBC angry lesbian in charge tried to make her deluded viewers believe that hydroxychloroquine would make them blind… (that could happen if instead of taking it for two weeks they took the drug for a decade…)

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  niceguy
May 11, 2022 8:46 am

When the VA rheumatologist prescribed HCQ for my osteoarthritis, they did a preliminary evaluation of my color vision and told me that they would check annually for any changes.

Now, if someone were to take HCQ prophylactically for COVID, they might well have been on it for over two years at this point in time, without a doctor’s supervision and without checks to be sure that their color vision wasn’t degrading.

I am apparently very sensitive to the drug. Within a couple of weeks of starting it, my systolic BP rose from 120 to 160, and within a month I started having problems with the muscles in my legs. After convincing my rheumatologist to go off the drug, my BP came down almost immediately. My legs are getting better, but are still not back to what they were before I started using HCQ.

You have to understand that everyone reacts differently to drugs and toxins, which is why toxicity is defined in terms of milligrams of toxin per kilogram of weight that results in 50% mortality.

There is an old saying that a man who acts as his own attorney has a fool for a client. What about someone who acts as his own doctor?

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
May 11, 2022 3:29 pm

I had a good friend who was on HCQ for Lupus. Apparently it is effective enough that it remains a go to drug for that. If a patient suffers bad side effects, I suspect she is switched to a less effective drug. The drug has, of course, been given to 100s of millions over 70-80yrs. Working in malarial countries off and on since the mid 1960s (last time in Brazil in 2018), I took a goodly amount without much sign of side effects (lucky me, of course.).

Aspirin was one of the most universally used medications for over a century (sourced from willow bark by
Native people I guess it’s been used many thousands of years). At about the time lbuprophen and acetimophen came out aspirin suddenly became one of the most scary drugs you could take!!

Many may not know that viagra was developed by a dermatologist. The unexpected side effect it had led to its main use today!

As a boy mercurachrome and iodine were liberally applied to cuts and abrasions, and iodine in water was gargled for sore throats. Kids played with mercury, slivered pennies with it, and lead’s low melting point provided some fun. My first business venture at about 10 y.o. was breaking blobs of asphalt into chew-size pieces for sale at a few pennies a piece to kids in the neighborhood. The blobs were collected from below spigots in a chain of tank cars along a rail siding. You chewed it and spit out the bad stuff unit you had a lovely piece of black gum to chew. Yeah a lot of things are bad for you but most, not as bad as we think.

I agree that in general, you shouldn’t medicate your self, but there was a lot of commercial and political chaotic skulduggery going on at the time with the wonderful windfall possibilities for getting rich among the ‘experts’. Not the least was the egregious study reported in Lancet ruling out HCQ as a therapy by administering 800mg a day. 250mg of medicine with, IIRC, 150mg of HCQ is the malarial dose. Modern science ad practiced today. Look how Democrat states ‘offed’ most of the Covid casualties! Certainly, this was politics overwhelming medical science. I believe this ugly state of affairs was what spawned a lot of anti vax behavior.

Next time I’m going to ask my doctor who he voted for before getting medical attention.

Danny Davis
Reply to  Gary Pearse
May 13, 2022 2:19 am

Ah, yes! Mercury as a toy at school! Back in my student days in the largest city in east Texas we played with Mercury on many occasions. It was truly fascinating to curious boys as we experimented with various ways to play with the liquid metal. Silver dimes were in our pocket and the instant attraction of Mercury to the silver meant that we carried and distributed many dollars worth of those shiny and slick coins. When we were playing, you can be sure that many of the beautiful silver bbs that were rolling around on the table were lost off the edge. Yes – I will say that most all schools in the world at the time (1950s & 60s) were loaded with Mercury on the floors and edges of the walls, slowly vaporizing into the air we breathed daily.
Despite the danges of my youth and adult adventures I’m still healthy and having fun in my 70s!!
More playing with old cars these days and none of them are Mercury models!

Reply to  Krishna Gans
May 11, 2022 4:57 am

It’s good that testing on animals has begun.

Reply to  Scissor
May 11, 2022 5:19 am

The US has announced that ‘Gulf War Syndrome’ which has affected tens of thousands of US and UK troops was caused by the weapons of mass destruction that didn’t exist in Iraq:

Problem is, many of those affected didn’t actually serve in Iraq…..they all got this shot though:

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Addolff
May 11, 2022 7:02 am

Because I never was an anti-vaxxer- I trusted vaccines- having gotten the swine flu shot
back in the ’70s. With the problems of the Wuhan vaccine & the “militaristic” jamming it
down our throats, it’s definitely a possibility. I hadn’t known that squalene had been
used as the USAF protocol included two antidotes- atropine & ~ benzodiazepine (?)-
which were used when I was in the service in the early ’80s.

The CW gear, which included a charcoal suit, was comparable to wearing full winter
regalia- snow-mobile suit, winter parka, ski mask, two pairs of gloves, & boots. With a
summer birth month, I had to wear that doing my pre-flight & flying for ~ 1.5 hr (~ 4 hrs
total) on a hot TX day. Once the engines were started, I had AC to help cool me off.
The trick was to drink enough water to keep from dehydrating but not enough to need
to relieve oneself. They maybe should have included a Dependz in the kit!

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Krishna Gans
May 11, 2022 8:21 am

The NIH knew the masks were quite ineffective in 2018 as is revealed
in this clip from Laurie Garrett. It was all about getting us afraid
& being trained to ask “how high” after being told to jump!

Last December, I found a study done in 2019 by Oxford that stated
neither masks nor N95s were effective against viruses. By February, it
had been “disappeared” down the memory hole. Luckily, I saved it:

While I do believe the N95 is better than a basic mask (Wiki them),
most of mask’s efficacy is from a “hankie” effect used by the spreader.
It’s still a case of “you read, you decide” as it’s impossible to know
what the exact facts are since it’s such a political football!

Rainer Bensch
Reply to  Old Man Winter
May 12, 2022 8:31 am


You should definitely avoid to use the [return] key to force a new line since it makes your comment almost unreadable when using a slightly bigger zoom by leaving only one or two words in every other line of text.

It’s still a case of “you read, you decide” as it’s impossible to
what the exact facts are since it’s such a political football!

Just type on til you need a new paragraph.

Reply to  Krishna Gans
May 11, 2022 11:56 am

are we pfinding pfizer pfraud?

Excellent review of the Pfizer clinical trial data dumps. Absolutely shocking.

Originally posted by The Automatic Earth, another great site.

May 11, 2022 3:01 am

The BBC’s Panorama programme is a flagship current affairs documentary programme,. In days of yore – it started in 1953 – it did what we used to call investigative journalism – when hacks did real journalism without fear or favour. Now it’s morphed into the usual BBC fayre;  reportage that hits the emotion buttons first and foremost. If you’ve seen the BBC’s coverage of Ukraine you’ll know exactly what I am referring to.

This week the BBC’s Climate Editor was found to have ‘made stuff up’ in an edition of Panorama titled Wild Weather.  Now, with a serious programme like Panorama you could be forgiven for thinking the BBC would issue a correction to maintain the programme’s integrity. You might even think their Climate Editor would have been given a stern talking to… but no. According to Guido Fawkes:

“BBC News released a statement saying “it accepted the wording in the programme was not as clear as it should have been and a public acknowledgement was put on the BBC’s Corrections and Clarifications website before the complaint reached the ECU [Editorial Complaints Unit ]”

Now in my book, Rowlatt set out to deceive. He knows full well what the true picture is, but he’s pushing a narrative and that [the cause] in his mind is what counts. You do have to look hard to even know the BBC has acknowledged ‘a mistake’. Few have even heard of a BBC Corrections and Clarifications website. So, it’s ultra low key on the BBC. And in the media?

The Daily Mail – BBC climate editor made false claims on global warming

Daily Express – BBC under fire for ‘misleading’ claim

GB News – BBC climate editor found to have made ‘misleading’ claims

Others daring to break the news include


And Guido Fawkes.

And news Just in (geddit?!)

Director General: Justin, for heaven’s sake don’t get caught out like that again. 

Reply to  fretslider
May 11, 2022 3:40 am

“He knows full well what the true picture is.”

I seriously doubt he knows any such thing. He is a PPE graduate. He almost certainly has not studied any numerate sciences since the age of about 15.What science he will have learnt will have been rote-learnt “facts”. He will have no understanding that science is a framework for reasoning with provisional information; that there are no facts, there are only conjectures that have so far withstood all attempt to falsify them. He will not understand the the need to try to falsify. He will detest the attempt.He will be persuaded by group-think and consensus and parroting.

He is not wicked; he is unqualified.I can forgive him that. I cannot forgive the BBC for putting him in that role.

Reply to  Quelgeek
May 11, 2022 3:49 am

Of course he knows.

“…the BBC is now simply a lobbyist for draconian climate alarmism, and is not interested in the facts or any sort of balanced debate.”

BBC’s Justin Rowlatt Loses It | NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT (

Advocating for the Great Reset requires them to know. Thereafter follows the crafted narrative.

Peta of Newark
May 11, 2022 3:22 am

BBC Headline:”Sri Lanka protests: Second night of property burnings
Don’t get me wrong, organic farming can work and can work very well.
At some point in future time, it has got to.

Trouble is, it takes much more work, especially mental work, to get it to happen.
Thus Sri Lanka, no-one thought where to find the required 1,500Gigatonnes of compost, annually, and dived in regardless.

wonder if there’s any similar lackadaisical thinking anywhere else…

Reply to  Peta of Newark
May 11, 2022 3:52 am

At some point in future time, it has got to.”

That seems like a leap of faith, Peta.

Jim Gorman
Reply to  Peta of Newark
May 11, 2022 5:25 am

Believe me, organic farming that relies on poop and compost will never supply the highly concentrated and high productivity farming that feeds the billions of people on earth today. Trying to do so will only result in massive starvation.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Jim Gorman
May 11, 2022 3:47 pm

Agreed that poop and compost won’t cut it to feed 7-12b people. What peta may be saying is that the fossis we currently rely on so heavily are not an infinite resource. At some point we will need to replace the feedstocks used to make the fertilizers that we currently produce from fossil hydrocarbons. How are we planning to do that?

It’s a great question to ask because prematurely abandoning fossil fuels implies in my mind famine and mass death. If our governments can’t explain the plan then they need to quit with the net zero insanity.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
May 11, 2022 10:34 am

“At some point in future time, it has got to.”
Reminds me of a phrase I learned as a freshman in college: “Not intuitively obvious to the casual observer” why organic farming has go to work.

a happy little debunker
May 11, 2022 3:26 am

If gender is a social construct and represents an ever evolving spectrum – why does gender reassignment surgery only ever offer a binary choice?

Reply to  a happy little debunker
May 11, 2022 3:56 am

Sex is an hardware issue.

Gender is a software glitch

Reply to  fretslider
May 11, 2022 4:23 am

Very good 🙂

Reply to  fretslider
May 11, 2022 4:41 am

Different topic, but along this same theme, is the IPCC ransomware?

Reply to  fretslider
May 11, 2022 9:58 am

Sex is a process, gender is YY or XY.

Reply to  a happy little debunker
May 11, 2022 4:23 am

why does gender reassignment surgery only ever offer a binary choice?

I’m not sure that’s the case.

I’ve had my genitals moved to my forehead, but please don’t think I’m a dick head.

Reply to  Redge
May 11, 2022 9:08 am

So on cold days it looks like you’ve got a walnut glued to your forehead?

Reply to  Mr.
May 11, 2022 9:46 am


more like a couple of raisins

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Redge
May 11, 2022 2:59 pm

I suppose we should now refer to climate change as climate reassignment.

Last edited 1 year ago by Tom in Florida
Reply to  a happy little debunker
May 11, 2022 4:25 am

Classifying people as either binary or non binary is quite…


Reply to  niceguy
May 11, 2022 9:59 am

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Old, but true.

Reply to  a happy little debunker
May 11, 2022 4:28 am


Pat from kerbob
Reply to  a happy little debunker
May 12, 2022 9:22 pm

Using surgery to treat a mental disorder is the epitome of bad policy

willem post
May 11, 2022 4:15 am

The Vermont Dem/Progs appear to not being able to see the forest for the trees.

They would have imposed MAJOR additional HEATING COST BURDENS on Vermonters, who have been fearfully looking forward to a DIRE FUTURE with:

Increased inflation rates,
Increased interest rates,
Increased energy prices,
Increased food prices,
Increased shipping costs,
Increased materials prices, such as lithium, cobalt, titanium, aluminum, copper, fertilizers.
Increased supply chain disruptions

Most of these are due to the US, the largest economy in the world, being grossly mismanaged by the pump-priming, deficit-spending, and the dollar-printing (to cover deficits) by woke Dem/Prog amateurs, who, after a 2020 Coup d’Etat, have been very busy:

1) Imposing THEIR disastrous, wokeness onto others, including on our pre-school children, and K-12 children, with corrupted textbooks and CRT programs, etc.

2) Managing THEIR disastrous, very costly, ludicrous, “open border policy”.
As a result, the prices of wind, solar and battery systems have become about 25% higher in 2022 than in 2020, which means:

1) Net-Zero (whatever that means), by whatever date, will be much more expensive to achieve

2) Electricity used by heat pumps and electric vehicles will be much more expensive in the future; in Munich, Germany the price to charge an EV was raised by 80%!!

Read this article to get up to speed.


US natural gas prices have surged to the highest level since the financial crisis in 2008, as strong demand for LNG from buyers in Europe and Asia puts pressure on inventories.

Trading in futures, for gas delivered to the Henry Hub, in Louisiana, is at almost $9/million Btu, up from just over $3 at the same point in 2021, and less than $3 in 2019.

This is due to Biden’s handlers shipping OUR liquid natural gas, LNG, (and crude oil) to Europe to make the BIG bucks, but that raises prices of many products in the US.

In Europe, LNG prices are $30/million Btu, the same as Asia. See image and URL

Prices are due to go much higher after the EU stupidly imposes an oil and gas ban on Russia


The Russian ruble is higher than it has been in 4 years.

Reply to  willem post
May 11, 2022 4:28 am

I don’t understand the gain of not buying Russian products.

Sending missiles to Ukraine? I get it. It may or may not be one’s preferred policy but the effect on the conflict and on Russia = clear. (Cf “cope cages”)

Not selling FLIR tech to Russia anymore? Get it. (It’s a scandal that France was sending FLIR when farmers could export porc to that country.)

Not buying oil? It’s silly.

Matthew Schilling
Reply to  niceguy
May 11, 2022 7:48 am

Well, not buying something that is important for a rival to sell can make sense… if and only if that something isn’t essential to the buyer. But buyers in dire need of oil are not likely to win a game of chicken with sellers who need to sell it.

I will give the Buy Strikers some credit: They have come up with an ingenious way to rig the game of chicken so both sides lose.

Reply to  Matthew Schilling
May 11, 2022 8:29 am

Products = basic goods (not spares for a Ferrari)

  • Anyone else will be able to use it
  • Less “moral” countries will buy
Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  niceguy
May 11, 2022 7:49 am

“I don’t understand the gain of not buying Russian products.”

Read up on the subject of factors that can induce “economic collapse” for a nation state.

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
May 11, 2022 11:55 pm

Can you prevent Russia from selling hydrocarbon?

Richard Page
Reply to  willem post
May 11, 2022 10:02 am

The decision to ban gas from Russia may have been taken out of the hands of both the EU and Russia. Ukraine has unilaterally decided to stop the gas flow from one pipeline that apparently runs through Russian occupied territory and supplies about a third of the EU’s supply of gas. Ukraine has stated they will only supply gas to EU through a pipeline that runs through Ukraine held territory which will result in a major loss of volume.

Reply to  Richard Page
May 11, 2022 11:58 pm

We should have pushed back against Trump’s America and completed Nord Stream 2, lol.

willem post
May 11, 2022 4:24 am

Here is an opportunity to watch the video “2000 MULES” FOR FREE.


Click to Download


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Click to download the video to watch the details of just how 2000 perpetrators, aka “mules”, were used by Dem/Progs to pick up ballots at ballot preparation centers, and deliver them, by the hundreds (in some cases using backpacks, etc.) to DROP BOXES, that had video cameras located far enough away, so no one could make out any details.

The MULES were paid $20 per delivered ballot.

Reply to  willem post
May 11, 2022 6:46 am

Yes it is a compelling documentary.

The “2,000” mules are however the low number projection based on those individuals doing a minimum of 10 drops a day to ballot boxes.
The “full-timers” if you like.

If investigative resources permitted, the producers of the documentary assert the number of “mules” discovered would be double, triple if those making fewer than 10 drops per day were included.

Interesting too was the revelation that the technology & methodology these investigators were using also uncovered the perpetrators of the shooting of an 8 y.o. child during a street altercation.
This evidence was handed to the FBI and resulted in 2 guys being charged.

Steve Case
Reply to  willem post
May 11, 2022 7:56 am

At 54:40 Wisconsin’s mail in vote security is discussed. And some palaver about how after that point the vote isn’t traceable. Here’s what Wisconsin’s mail in portion of the ballot looks like:

comment image

The mail in ballot is not secret. The envelope has the voter’s name & address on the outside, and the naked ballot is all that there is on the inside. There is no internal unmarked envelope with my “secret” secure vote inside. Whoever opened that envelope could see how I voted.

Besides that, you can bet that come next November the mules will NOT be instructed to take a photo of the drop box and to NOT carry their cell phone.

And further more, during the run-up the the 2020 election there were very few TV ads for Joe Biden. TV ads are expensive, and it’s rather obvious that at 10 to 20 dollars per mule delivery is where the campaign money was spent.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Steve Case
May 11, 2022 4:37 pm

Your thoughts are the same as mine. The mules will certainly be ordered to leave their cell phone at home. Just as they got the word to wear gloves after someone got caught in Arizona based on fingerprint evidence. Lessons learned. Only Republicans don’t do that.

Video cameras may mysteriously fail on apparently random timeframes (during which coincidentally large numbers of voters will decide to drop off their ballots).

How do we know that the ballots that went into the counting machine are the ballots that came out of the mailers? Of course we don’t. That depends on there being a trustworthy Republican pollwatcher who is not intimidated into letting ballots out of their sight before going into counting machines. An entire set of fake ballots could be swapped out. Or 3 out of 5 Trump ballots could just drop into the trash to be replaced later with Biden ballots reintroduced to make the vote count match the count of mailers. The opportunities for cheating are too numerous to list. In my town, when you vote in person, you feed the ballot into the reader. No chain of custody gaps there!

What we should be demanding is an end to mail-in and dropbox voting. If early voting is really needed, why can’t the voter go do an in-person early vote?

I imagine it’s already too late to put a stop to the fraud coming in November. Fortunately though, one thing in our favor at least on the House vote is that it will be very difficult to corrupt the 60-75 competitive races where they don’t own any of the polling places. It is still certain that the same fraud will be in play in the states where the Senate races are competitive. Urban centers like Philadelphia and Milwaukee will be able to steal the vote for the whole state. So I fully expect the Dems to steal the Senate as they stole it in Atlanta with the Georgia runoffs.

Reply to  Rich Davis
May 11, 2022 6:55 pm

Yeah, the Georgia Senate fraud was so brazen you could watch it live. I know because I did watch it live. Unbelievable.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  willem post
May 11, 2022 8:46 am

Other than the “GPS is unreliable” response, they haven’t come up with one & are very scared!
Maybe that affected when the “Ministry of Truth” was established, too! While they aren’t very smart,
they’re aces when it comes to guile & political tactics. Gangsters understand self-preservation!

Rich Davis
Reply to  Old Man Winter
May 11, 2022 5:21 pm

I don’t know that they’re all that scared O M W. Seems like the censorship on this story is airtight. Fox won’t touch it and even Newsmax seems to have no recent articles.

RINOs like Kemp and Raffensperger seem to be in on the scam. Slow-walking the investigation. I smell a bunch of swamp critters.

Inevitably if they can’t continue to suppress the story altogether, they’re going to say ok some of the ballots may have been delivered irregularly but they were all collected from eligible voters, so where’s the harm?

We can’t prove that fraudulent votes were cast (meaning ballots filled out by someone other than the registered voter).

We can’t prove that money passed hands or that anyone was intimidated into signing a mail-in envelope where the ballot was pre-filled out by the harvester.

We can’t even prove that fake ballots were printed out of state, filled out and counted without even being placed into mailers. (Remember the reports of reams of ballots that were never folded and the outside envelopes that were conveniently discarded so that no reconciliation could be possible?)

With the deafening silence following the release of 2000 Mules, I am very disheartened. It’s likely that the criminals will orchestrate a “surprise comeback” by the Demonrats.

Richard Page
Reply to  willem post
May 11, 2022 10:07 am

Lessons have been learned and applied, even if it won’t immediately affect the USA; after years of hemming and hawing, the UK has finally passed a law requiring photo ID to vote. It passed into law very quietly earlier this year and should take effect from next year or thereabouts.

Reply to  Richard Page
May 12, 2022 12:20 am

France has rejected mail in voting decades ago, cause fraud.

Steve Case
Reply to  willem post
May 11, 2022 11:03 am

Here’s my November 1st 2020 post from before the 2020 election. There were 22 replies none of which responded to the looming election fraud that was to come two days later.

Rich Davis
Reply to  willem post
May 11, 2022 3:57 pm

Thank you willem post for raising this topic. Has anyone seen coverage positive or negative on this documentary? It seems to have dropped silently into a media black hole.

Reply to  willem post
May 12, 2022 4:42 am

Thank you Willem.
I never accepted the validity of the USA 2020 Presidential election.
How could Biden, who could not get more than a few dozen people to his rallies, win that majority? Negative credibility.
Canada is already finished, destroyed by the Trudeau WEF fascists. If the USA fails, everything fails.
We can confidently assume that the corrupt-and-incompetent Trudeau government will sign the proposed WHO treaty, which will destroy Canada’s autonomy and give control of our government to the uber-corrupt World Health Organization. Trudeau and his cabinet are disloyal to Canada – they are traitors, loyal to Klaus Schwab and the fascist World Economic Forum. They have already plundered the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and this WHO Treaty will destroy the Charter, Canada’s Constitution and our status as an independent nation.
It was obvious from the very start in early 2020 that the alleged Covid-19 illness was NOT a major pandemic, because there was NO increase in total deaths in Alberta or Canada above the historic trend to July 1, 2020. No increase in total deaths means no real pandemic.
As I published on 21March2020, all we needed to do was over-protect the very elderly and infirm and send everyone else back to work and school. . Six months later the top physicians and researchers in the world published the same recommendation in the Great Barrington Declaration.
The Covid-19 “vaccines” were toxic and ineffective, as I advised our Alberta government on 8Jan2021, before they were deployed in Alberta. It is now clear that the total deaths and major injuries from these toxic “vaccines” will exceed the total harm from the Covid-19 virus.

The Covid-19 alleged “pandemic” was a costly and harmful fraud from the start.
October 20, 2021. Update May 12, 2022
“The ability to correctly predict is the best objective measure of scientific and technical competence.”
Our scientific predictions on both Climate and Covid are infinitely more accurate than the mainstream narratives, which have been false and baselessly alarmist to date.
Regards, Allan MacRae, B.A.Sc.(Eng.), M.Eng.

Dr Mark Trozzi May 2, 2022
While the WHO strategize to further enslave mankind, we strategize to stop their crimes, enshrine human rights and return the rule of law.

Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola May 10, 2022
·        The World Health Organization has started drafting a global pandemic treaty on pandemic preparedness that would grant it absolute power over global biosecurity, such as the power to implement digital identities/vaccine passports, mandatory vaccinations, travel restrictions, standardized medical care and more
·        The WHO is not qualified to make global health decisions. As just one example, the WHO didn’t publicly admit SARS-CoV-2 was airborne until the end of December 2021, yet scientists knew the virus was airborne within weeks of the pandemic being declared. The WHO also ignored early advice about airborne transmission
·        More importantly, a one-size-fits-all approach to pandemic response simply does not work, because pandemic threats are not identical in all parts of the world. Even people in the same region do not have identical risk and may not need or benefit from identical treatment
·        The WHO will accept two more days of public comment on the treaty, June 16 and 17, 2022, so prepare your statements now. The World Health Assembly will also vote on amendments to the International Health Regulations, May 22-28, 2022, which may also strip away more individual rights and liberties.

Reply to  Allan MacRae
May 12, 2022 10:11 am

Remember how almost* everybody got suckered by the Covid-19 Scamdemic – the costly and ineffective Covid-19 lockdowns and the costly, ineffective and toxic Covid-19 “vaccines”?
Well, the WHO and the WEF and our traitorous leadership think you are stupid enough to do it again, and even bigger this time…

by Peter Breggin MD and Ginger Ross Breggin | May 4, 2022
 Biden Handing Over U.S. Sovereignty to WHO – America Out Loud
“Please take seriously the severity of this existential threat to everything free people hold dear. Do everything in your power to pass this report on to others and to find ways to communicate with and to influence people to stop empowering WHO to take over our national sovereignty and freedom. 
On May 22-28, 2022, ultimate control over America’s healthcare system, and hence its national sovereignty, will be delivered for a vote to the World Health Organization’s governing legislative body, the World Health Assembly (WHA).
This threat is contained in new amendments to WHO’s International Health Regulations, proposed by the Biden administration, that are scheduled as “Provisional agenda item 16.2” at the upcoming conference on May 22-28, 2022.”

*Note: I never believed the Covid-19 scam.- not the lockdowns and not the vaccines.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  willem post
May 12, 2022 7:13 am

I downloaded this video twice and both times it stops at about 57:30 and freezes and goes no farther.

May 11, 2022 4:49 am

In Canada, The Weather Network ran an item on polar bears, saying birth rates were in decline. They interviewed some biologists from Norway and Alberta, concluding that the future looked grim and we could see the extinction of the bears. No alternative analysis or counter arguments presented and no data showing how populations were actually doing. Made me sick to watch such B***S***.

Reply to  Bruce
May 11, 2022 6:36 am

The Weather Network takes an alarmist approach to increase their site readership…plus thanks to sources like they can paste up a good looking sciency sounding article with 5 minutes effort.

Reply to  Bruce
May 11, 2022 6:50 am

The Weather Network.
a.k.a. “Clickbait Central”.

May 11, 2022 4:51 am

The text of the Second Amendment reads in full: “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

People often forget to discuss the implications of the first part: “well-regulated Militia” now in 2022.

I assume militia = infantry.
What about a well regulated militia member, that is, what would “well regulated” infantry soldier have in 2022?

Duh. Look at the current hot conflict. Soldiers have very small range missile launchers.

So wouldn’t the Second Amendment mean that US citizens should also carry missiles?

(A missile works by the physics of rapidly expanding gases; like a normal firearm of now, or a firearm of the area when the US Constitution was drafted.)

Martin Buchanan
Reply to  niceguy
May 11, 2022 5:50 am
  • You assume wrong. The militia is all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service.
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Matthew Schilling
Reply to  Martin Buchanan
May 11, 2022 8:06 am

So, if a blue-haired grandma rescues her family by shooting a dangerous intruder, she’s doing something unconstitutional? How about if her 10 year old grandson shoots the perp? Is that constitutional?

Matt Kiro
Reply to  Martin Buchanan
May 11, 2022 8:06 am

The military armed services of the US are not the same as the militia mentioned in the 2nd amendment.

Reply to  Martin Buchanan
May 11, 2022 8:10 am

What military service? Navy, air force, space force?
Or as I wrote: infantry?

Rich Davis
Reply to  niceguy
May 11, 2022 5:32 pm

What does a Frenchman know about weapons?

Rifle for sale
Never fired. Only thrown down in surrender twice.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  niceguy
May 11, 2022 7:25 am

According to Brandon, us “Bubbas” get to have even more fun than grabbing a case of beer & some
rifles for target practice out in the woods. Forget the very small range missile launchers, he thinks “(we)
need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons”. 😮 😮 😮

Because the Founding Fathers were civilian insurrectionists, they would’ve DEFINITELY known that self-
defense is a God given right & necessity in a continuously unstable world. When I was in England in the
early ’80s, IIRC, the weapon, the firing pin & the ammo had to be kept in three separate places- whether
they had to be locked up or in three different rooms, too, I don’t remember. When people give in to the
dictatorial libs on gun control, their nation’s down the cr@pper! You can no longer defend yourself & keep
politicians afraid enough of you for them to have to respect you!

Matthew Schilling
Reply to  niceguy
May 11, 2022 8:00 am

2A is written in such a way as to mention both groups that gave birth to the Federal Government: the States and the People. The Constitution, after all, is written in the voice of the People and ratified by the States. 2A declares both groups have a vested interest in The People being free to own firearms. Attacking 2A via “well-regulated militia” is trash “logic”.

Richard Page
Reply to  niceguy
May 11, 2022 10:15 am

The second amendment was written by people opposed to having a large standing army and believed that a small cadre of professional soldiers with a large pool of ‘well regulated militia’, or a more up-to-date version of the Athenian citizen-soldier, would be enough to form a large enough army in times of need. And no, a missile launcher and missile does not operate the same as a musket and ball.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Richard Page
May 12, 2022 4:12 am

Hamilton wrote that a militia consisting of citizens would likely stand and defend themselves, their families, their neighbors and their locale against any outside attack but would not be likely to do so if sent by the federal government to other states to participate in an attack on those people. The fear of a large standing federal army was because history had shown that tyrants use those large standing armies to suppress their own citizens.

May 11, 2022 5:08 am

What is the latest thinking on the impact of CFCs (in the ‘70 – ‘90 time period) on ozone in atmosphere and warming effects observed through 2010? With “manmade” CO2 not driving more than about 4% of warming and ZERO warming the last 7-10 years have we seen the last of the impact?
Does the loss of ozone explain the warming? Any insight is welcome.

Reply to  BigE
May 11, 2022 6:39 am

“Does the loss of ozone explain the warming?”

Good question BigE.

My understanding about the ozone scare nonsense is the supposed harmful cell damaging effects from increased UV exposure.

The “science” on this is sketchy.

The fluctuating, pulsing polar holes of the ozone layer are regarded as evidence of its depletion from human activity. Some industrial compounds (chlorofluorocarbons or CFC’s) chemically react with the O3 molecule of the ozone layer of the stratosphere thus depleting it.

There are other explanations; the ozone layer is relatively thin (at 1 atm it would be less than 1/8 of an inch thick) and in a constant state of replenishment as well as depletion. 12 to 25 miles up high energy UV splits the O2 molecule into two atomic O1 molecules that then combine with O2 to form the unstable, temporary O3 ozone molecule which absorbs low energy UV.  

It is now understood the main reasons for the changing polar ozone hole sizes are natural and include the seasonal lack of light, the atmospheric fluid dynamics of the polar vortices, fluctuations with naturally occurring nitrous oxide and most importantly, the solar variances in UV radiation. 

Vlad the Impaler
Reply to  M.W.Plia
May 11, 2022 11:51 am

The question of the ‘Antarctic Ozone Hole’ has been around for very long time. Supposedly, the chlorine-containing compounds were the root cause. This was the basis for that ‘Montreal Protocol’ that gradually eliminated those “ozone-busting” chemicals.

The very first time I heard about this, sometime in the ’70’s (I’m in my 70’s now … ), the first question I had was, ‘how do very heavy compounds, mostly from the Northern Hemisphere, get all the way down to the Antarctic, and WAAAAAAAAAY up in the atmosphere?’

No one had an answer.

Lo and behold!!!! a few years ago I was reading a very wonderful book by the late Marcel Leroux, who postulated that the almost continuous eruption of Mr. Erebus was largely responsible for the Antarctic ‘ozone hole’. It made so much more sense than the ridiculous idea that some refrigerants are “leaking” half-a-world-away and getting through the tropopause. As mentioned in your post, there are other causes as well, working at various time scales and to variable effect(s).


Richard Page
Reply to  Vlad the Impaler
May 11, 2022 3:06 pm

Heavier than air refrigerants were floating up to the tropopause to boot!

May 11, 2022 5:18 am

Please consider signing the World Climate Declaration. Here is how:

joe X
May 11, 2022 5:24 am

ok, if i told you that i invented a machine that will capture co2 from the tail pipe of a truck. then off load said co2 to storage tanks to later be sold to companies that use said co2 in an industrial process, all in the name of co2 causes climate change, you would tell me to sell crazy somewhere else. and rightly so. well somewhere else is now wixom mi.

David Dibbell
May 11, 2022 5:59 am

Arctic ice volume update: “The April time series (Fig 8) for both [“both”=Cryosat-AWI and PIOMAS – dd] data sets have no apparent trend over the past 11 years.”

From the Polar Science Center PIOMAS home page here:


Sure, there WAS a declining trend, but it looks like it bottomed out.

May 11, 2022 6:08 am

Why hasen’t commercial/residential use of dry ice been banned by the anti CO2 folks?

lee riffee
Reply to  BigE
May 11, 2022 7:55 am

Considering all of the industrial uses of the gas it is a wonder that the greens don’t also go after those…. But no, I guess it’s easier (and perhaps more effective) to go after power plants and people who want to continue driving and heating their homes or businesses.

Matthew Schilling
Reply to  BigE
May 11, 2022 8:01 am


Richard Page
Reply to  BigE
May 11, 2022 10:18 am

Because they are too stupid to make the connection between dry ice and CO2?

Reply to  Richard Page
May 11, 2022 5:58 pm

You are probably 100% on that!

May 11, 2022 7:30 am

Extinction Rebellion is way more radical than you think
By any reasonable measure, the group’s platform would kill untold millions if implemented
Extinction Rebellion is often portrayed in the media as just another green group pressing for “urgent action” on climate change, but that’s not even close to the whole story.

Bill Everett
Reply to  Cam_S
May 11, 2022 8:03 am

How can anyone believe that atmospheric CO2 at one part for every 2350 parts of atmosphere is driving the Earth’s temperature and climate? That level of presence is not small. It is not tiny. It is microscopic. Imagine the size of a man who is six feet tall if he were reduced in size to 1/2350th of six feet.

Reply to  Bill Everett
May 11, 2022 5:52 pm

Imagine looking down on the Rose Bowl (football stadium) where all 99,965 fans are wearing UCLA Light Blue Blue.

Only 35 Notre Dame fans are admitted, are all wearing very Dark Green, and are evenly spread throughout the stadium.

After half time, let in and disperse another 10 Green Notre Dame fans.

Now there are 45 of them … can you see the difference from the blimp view?

[The temp at halftime was a cool 58 degrees on a sunny November day:

A) How much energy is absorbed and how much does the temperature go up (at the center of the field) as a result of the Dark Green addition?

B) If the Notre Dame fans wear 100% reflective white instead, how much does the temp go up?]

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Matthew Schilling
May 11, 2022 8:04 am

Euthanizing the poor is a despicable evil… and a present reality:

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Matthew Schilling
May 11, 2022 8:53 am

Since Gubmints are always jealous of individual rights, they eventually steal them, too.
The implications of that, especially since they were able to impoverish the Canadian
truckers, is even scarier yet! 🙁

May 11, 2022 9:01 am

Vail ski area in Colorado is having its longest snow season in the history of the place.
Might have to extend util June, with 9 inches falling in March.

Just one year ago, the Denver Post was publishing stories about how climate change was causing a decline in ski seasons.

May 11, 2022 9:20 am

Is there information on the water usage in California for growing and processing ethanol for fuel to save the planet? The insufficient storage during the current dry spell seems to not be helped by burning a million? acre feet of water in cars every year. Now they want to add E85 mandates?

Richard Page
Reply to  JPJSSK
May 11, 2022 10:26 am

Most of the biofuel seems to be coming from corn grown in other states. However, you might want to have a look at the sugarcane being grown in Imperial valley for ethanol fuels.

Reply to  Richard Page
May 11, 2022 2:01 pm

Somehow, a crop that appears to use twice as much water per acre as corn doesn’t seem like it will help alleviate the water shortages. It could have a better yield, but double?

Old Man Winter
Reply to  JPJSSK
May 11, 2022 11:02 am

I don’t know that California grows that much corn & I’d assume they’re importing the ethanol blend
from states that do. Their long growing season is too good to waste on lower valued corn.

Reply to  Old Man Winter
May 11, 2022 1:58 pm

Your note got me searching harder. Thanks. According to the USEIA, California 2019 produced 4.63 million barrels (Iowa 104 million) of fuel ethanol each year. If it’s mostly corn, that’s 350K acres production. According to the Pacific Institute, 2.2 million acre feet of applied water was used for corn production in 2014. I did see that there are several ethanol processing plants in California which must use a lot of water.

Currently, the CaDWR shows about 15 million acre feet of water in reservoirs there. It still seems that a couple of million acre feet per year that wasn’t burned up supporting green mandates would be helpful to the water supplies.

Steve Oregon
May 11, 2022 10:38 am

The HuffPost has a fresh Great Barrier Reef piece that’s laughable.

91% Of Surveyed Corals Bleached Along Great Barrier Reef, Australia SaysIt’s the first time that a mass bleaching has happened during a La Niña year, when the ocean is supposed to be cooler than usual.

Mike McHenry
May 11, 2022 2:04 pm

In September 1938 there was a devastating hurricane that hit the northeast USA. It’s track was over open ocean. I have read that an ocean surface temperatures need to be 80F+ to sustain or they peter out. Can one of the expert meteorologist tell how this hurricane traversed the north Atlantic without diminishing

ray g
May 12, 2022 1:45 am

Here we go again. More reports of coral bleaching on theGBR
Can anyone tell me if this is correct or can it be refuted?

May 13, 2022 11:30 am

For an OT completely unrelated to Global Warming, corals, or anything usually discussed here … I offer something that some may find interesting. The news of a destroyed pontoon bridge in Ukraine led me to search for details of building one in a hurry. My first discovery was one from the “Great War of Yankee Aggression” in the US in the mid/late 1800’s. Quite a lot of work and planning was involved. Have a read if you’re bored.

Reply to  eyesonu
May 13, 2022 11:43 am

Here is a more modern version of building a pontoon bridge. Still a lot of planning and effort. I have increased my vast wealth of usage knowledge today on this Friday the 13th so I will now treat myself to a beer!!

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