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fretslider
April 29, 2022 2:27 am

Early on in the pandemic, despite attempted coverups and censorship of ‘off-piste’ scientists and other critical voices, it became clear that that nice Dr Fauci had outsourced his ‘gain of function’ research and we were told by a lockdown mad media that it originated in a bat in a wet market. The only real bone of contention is whether the leak was due to sloppy work or a deliberate act.

The [UK] modelling for the pandemic was an unmitigated disaster that has caused untold damage to people and society for years to come. That’s a very real world effect of relying on the experterati and their voodoo statistics.

“assessment of how climate change will restructure the global mammalian virome. “

They mean a stab in the dark, and they are sticking with ‘wet markets’

“The closest analogy is actually the risks we see in the wildlife trade,”

Indeed.

“the models always lead us to these conclusions. It’s a really stunning example of just how well we can…” …input the right assumptions to get the right answers.

Is this the Friday funny?

Bryan A
Reply to  fretslider
April 29, 2022 5:28 am

Bat? I thought it was a Pangolin…
The next pandemic is far more likely to originate, like the last one did, in a Chinese OR Russian Viral Lab and become “Accidentally Released”

Flash Chemtrail
Reply to  Bryan A
April 29, 2022 5:55 am

Oh come on now. Obviously Covid did not originate in a lab where these viruses were stored, studied and experimented on. Covid happened naturally just a few blocks away from the lab. Haven’t you seen all the evidence?

Richard Page
Reply to  Bryan A
April 29, 2022 6:05 am

Ukrainian will be next, if it actually hasn’t happened already – there were some odd reports of persistent illnesses cropping up in Ukraine which most have put down to the corrupt practices in medical care and lack of affordable treatment rather than anything else.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Bryan A
April 29, 2022 6:15 am

having been funded by us Yanks with Fraudci’s approval, no less! 🙁

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AntonyIndia
Reply to  Bryan A
April 29, 2022 6:16 am

Funded and supplied by Fauci & co though: the devil is in the ‘details”…

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Bryan A
April 29, 2022 9:34 am

This is not from the Babylon Bee. It got NIH funding. Maybe the NIH is the “canary in a
coal mine” that’s showing us how much our government has lost its way. 🙁

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/congress-us-must-stop-funding-horrific-animal-experiments-in-russia/

Mr.
Reply to  Old Man Winter
April 29, 2022 10:57 am

Yes I noticed that duplicitous Ecohealth Alliance was a participant in this study too.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

2hotel9
Reply to  fretslider
April 29, 2022 5:45 am

Gain of function is biological warfare development.

Richard Page
Reply to  fretslider
April 29, 2022 6:02 am

Obviously the ‘expert’ in question completely failed to mention that great steps have been made in shutting down a large swathe of the wildlife trade so that the majority of animals now come from the illegal wildlife trade and a few countries that ignore the international bans. Much has already been done to limit this as a vector for cross-species transmission although there is more still to be done.

commieBob
Reply to  fretslider
April 29, 2022 6:29 am

… it originated in a bat in a wet market.

What a coincidence that the wet market was within walking distance of the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Given how many wet markets there are in China, how is it that the pandemic originated in the one closest to a lab that researches corona virus?

I did a google search of wet market virus lab and hits claiming that the pandemic really did originate in the wet market predominated. A DuckDuckGo search produced hits on both sides of the issue.

Given the shenanigans associated with funding gain-of-function research. Given that possible treatments for the wuflu were suppressed. Given that the lab leak story was suppressed in the MSM and social media. It’s obvious that America has become deeply corrupt.

Most of us knew that already. If it weren’t for corruption, CAGW (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming) would be a forgotten issue.

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Zig Zag Wanderer
April 29, 2022 2:28 am

Climate Change could, theoretically, make me rich and handsome.

fretslider
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
April 29, 2022 3:16 am

You have seen what its done to Michael Mann? It certainly hasn’t enhanced the appearance of Oreskes.

Bryan A
Reply to  fretslider
April 29, 2022 5:29 am

Who knows, maybe it did…
In Models

Joao Martins
Reply to  Bryan A
April 29, 2022 8:02 am

They did not yet succeeded in teaching computers how to tell each one of the plethora of genders; too much parameters in the models… when they do that, they still will have to parametrize “handsome” for each of them.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  fretslider
April 29, 2022 3:04 pm

I believe her looks are more design than accident. She wants to look like an burned sea boot.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
April 29, 2022 7:56 am

Rich would be enough.

H B
April 29, 2022 2:31 am

Alarmist fear mongering only that idiot Griff would believe shite like this

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fretslider
Reply to  H B
April 29, 2022 2:36 am

The trouble is griff is far from alone in his torment.

Greg61
Reply to  fretslider
April 29, 2022 12:15 pm

I have a couple of 30 something kids. I was pretty diligent in their upbringing and at least to the end of high school they were pretty sensible. By the time they were done university they were total converts to liberal stupidity, at least on some subjects. My favourite moment in parent teacher time when my daughter was in high school – her history teacher assigned and essay to describe the best or worst Canadian PM. I helped her research Trudeau Sr as worst ever. Her teachers head almost exploded when we discussed that in the meeting, (while the essay was still being worked on)

stinkerp
April 29, 2022 2:32 am

With no one learning the fundamental lesson of the COVID-19 panicdemic, that engineered viruses escape labs, I’d say the odds heavily favor genetic engineers as the source of the next pandemic. Gain of function research kills millions. It should be killed.

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Derg
Reply to  stinkerp
April 29, 2022 4:12 am

Cats out of the bag 🙁

Pflashgordon
Reply to  stinkerp
April 29, 2022 5:12 am

Absolutely agreed. Before ChiCom-19, the last truly global pandemic with high mortality was the 1918 “Spanish” flu. The later H1N1 swine flu was nothing by comparison. As others have noted here, ChiCom-19 is purely of human (laboratory) origin, having zero relationship to changes in weather. dr. Faucet and his ilk must be shut down and prosecuted for their roles in funding and coverups, and China owes the world massive reparations for their production and release (possibly intentional) of this bioweapon.

Given the rarity of natural, devastating pandemics in modern times, the Georgetown study authors are claiming predictive power over something which basically almost never happens in nature. I predict with almost 100% certainty that the next pandemic, if there is one, will likewise be of human origin in another Biosafety Level 4 laboratory.

JonasM
Reply to  stinkerp
April 29, 2022 11:57 am

Not sure I agree it should be eliminated. Based on the descriptions I’ve seen, it seems like a good idea to help insure future preparedness against something truly deadly.
HOWEVER – that research should occur on an otherwise empty tropical island, with all traffic coming off of the island forced to isolate for several weeks at an island maybe 2 miles away. Lots of sun exposure, sun-sterilization of everything before it gets put on a boat going anywhere else.
Not a bad job actually, with an enforced beach vacation after every shift. As long as you don’t mind the threat of death if you screw up. But at least it would be limited to you and your coworkers. And I guess we would still learn something. 🙂

stinkerp
Reply to  JonasM
April 29, 2022 3:13 pm

Actually there is zero benefit to gain of function research. There is no knowledge gained from it that helps protect against future pandemics. Remember, it is a process of genetically engineering or artificially guiding the evolution of a virus to infect a different host (humans) than it initially did (for example, bats, poultry, birds) by adding the ability to target known attack sites in human cells. All the vaccines were engineered without using gain of function. Its only virtue is satisfying the craven curiosity of sociopathic researchers who are apparently incapable of recognizing that the risk of a deadly pandemic is high while the benefit is nonexistent.

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Petit_Barde
April 29, 2022 2:41 am

That’s because climate change increases odds of biolabs’ leaks.

Richard Page
Reply to  Petit_Barde
April 29, 2022 6:07 am

Arrogance begets arrogance and the “we’re better than that!” mentality.

Nicholas McGinley
April 29, 2022 2:52 am

This is one of the purer versions of climate alarmist doomsday bullshit.
They start out with some assertions and conjectures of a highly dubious and likely flat-out wrong nature, and from there quickly move to the parts about how bad it is, how great they are to have thought of it and warned everyone, how much more study will be required, and then declare their ideas, assertions, conjectures, and WAG conclusions to be a “huge step forwards” in preventing the next pandemic.

Yeah right!
How about they focus on how bad a job everyone involved did during the last one, and what mistakes were made, and figure out how to prevent those same people and institutions and procedures and preparations from making a complete mess when it happens again?
How about doing that?
The same people who are never correct about anything want us to believe, continuously, that they are doing a great job.

I do not accept a single word of any of what is being asserted in this paper as being true, or having any predictive, preventative, scientific, medical, or public health value whatsoever.
WHATSOEVER!

I am sure they are profiting handsomely, and how big the grants they get are, has zero to do with how well what they say or predict lines up with reality.

ozspeaksup
April 29, 2022 2:57 am

Oh FFS! and once again garbage climate models used to base models of disease on
rated a 1 for being fantasy

william Johnston
Reply to  ozspeaksup
April 29, 2022 5:51 am

At least I didn’t see the phrase “it’s worse than we thought”. Or maybe by now that is implied!

Tom Abbott
April 29, 2022 3:01 am

“As the earth’s climate continues to warm,”

All this Climate Change Science BS (Bad Science) is based on “continues to warm”.

These alarmist idiots assume the Earth’s temperatures will continue to warm. What if they don’t continue to warm? Answer: If it doesn’t continue to warm, then you can throw this study and all the others like it, out the window because they are worthless.

All these guys are doing is speculation based on nothing.

In case these genuises haven’t noticed, the temperatures have cooled by about 0.5C since 2016. This “continues to warm” is a figment of their imaginations.

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Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 29, 2022 4:18 am

Whether it will warm or cool going forward is indeed highly uncertain.
But what is more certain is that warmer is better, not bad, and certainly not worse.
So the alarmism is based on a completely erroneous speculation, on top of a misunderstanding of the variable being speculated on.

DaveS
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 29, 2022 9:26 am

Speculation based on nothing provides endless employment for academics in the climate field. They are very good at milking the opportunities.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  DaveS
April 30, 2022 3:58 am

Yes, they are.

Don132
April 29, 2022 3:04 am

Future pandemics will have nothing to do with the bioweapons labs scattered throughout the world? Good to know!

b.nice
April 29, 2022 3:06 am

Yep, if the climate change scammers don’t get what they want..

…they will arrange to release the next virus.

Thanks for the confirmation, ghouls.

Its not modeled.. its planned !

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Michael ElliottMichael Elliott
Reply to  b.nice
April 29, 2022 3:33 am

I thought that the current practice of having the “Wet” markets in rural China was considered to be the probable source of this, & sadly may future such outbreaks

Michael VK5ELL

fretslider
Reply to  Michael ElliottMichael Elliott
April 29, 2022 4:25 am

I thought that the current practice of having the “Wet” markets in rural China was considered to be the probable source of this”

That’s the narrative – long since debunked.

Dave K
Reply to  fretslider
April 30, 2022 10:48 am

Sir Matt Ridley and Alina Chan have written a book about this: Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19

Derg
Reply to  Michael ElliottMichael Elliott
April 29, 2022 12:48 pm

Wet markets was disinformation.

Petit_Barde
April 29, 2022 3:25 am

Strangely, history shows that the worst epidemics always occur during cold periods …

Richard Page
Reply to  Petit_Barde
April 29, 2022 6:09 am

Exactly. COVID seems to really thrive in temperatures around 3C.

Disputin
April 29, 2022 3:26 am

As the earth’s climate continues to warm

I’ve seen this phrase at the beginning of many papers. It seems to be a standard boilerplate.

Chris Nisbet
Reply to  Disputin
April 29, 2022 12:35 pm

I believe that it’s intentionally deceptive use of language.
People will read this and think they’re being told that the earth’s climate _is_ warming. I think there’s another way to read it.
If I say something like “Imagine there is a diver in the water. As the diver continues to descend, the pressure on his body will increase”, it doesn’t mean there really is a descending diver.
So when I read this…

“As the earth’s climate continues to warm, researchers predict wild animals will be forced to relocate their habitats”

I read something that will give the impression the author means one thing, when they’re actually being weaselly with their words.

It’s just a prediction anyway – AKA a guess. I hope these experts aren’t betting people because their predictions generally aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on.

BTW – Is there any such thing as ‘the earth’s climate’?

I think it would be a good teaching exercise for an English teacher to work through some of these articles with their students to show just exactly what they do and don’t say.
Another common thing you’ll find is a short sentence buried in an article indicating that scientists don’t really know why some thing happens, but then the rest of the article is written in such a way as to give the impression that they do.

It’s these deceptive tactics that convince me that this ‘climate change is an existential threat!!’ business isn’t kosher. Real science isn’t weaselly like this.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
April 29, 2022 3:11 pm

No, climate is regional and local. This planet doesn’t have a climate. The entire idea of “climate change” is equivocation … utter nonsense intended for the ignorant and the brain dead.

Peta of Newark
April 29, 2022 4:16 am

There’s a pandemic that’s been raging since the mid 50’s
i.e. Sugar eating

Headline:Foods to Avoid If You Have Anxiety or Depression
“Anxiety or Depression”Doesn’t that perfectly describe Climate Change Science?

On top of that, being depressed for a long time leads to paranoia, your brain loses its agility, its cognitive skill and its memory starts falling apart.
You lose your GSOH – and when you do, your girlfriend/wife/date dumps you.

Paranoia = You over-react to normal everyday triggers. Like the weather. Or someone disliking you on social media. Or driving a car when you don’t have one.

Would it be too big a leap to assume that the ‘Foods To Avoid‘ are the ones that also cause the anxiety/depression?

See them listed here

You don’t consume any of that shyte – do you?

And the really laughable thing about it all, is that the production of that mush is what’s creating the so-far observed Climate Change.
Even worse, the low-to-zero nutrient content of those foods leaves me/you/everyone wide open to any passing bug/virus/fungus, big/small, good/bad/indifferent.
They will all make us ill – to the tune of (its gone up) $3.8 Trillion pa in the US alone.
=Twice the military spend.

While the warmists assert that the consumption of mush, to the express exclusion of what we are supposed to eat, will Cure The Climate
And then, positive feedback rules the roost, because their high sugar and alcohol laden diet switches off their minds, they are totally impervious to any argument contrary to what they want to hear.
Be that climate, diet, Putin/Trump salt/fat/sugar/cannabis whatever whatever whatever

‘Never Betterers’ especially, think on……… before the ‘spare-tyre’ and accompanying pre-diabetes turns into Type 3 diabetes and you cannot think at all.

edit to PS:
No, we are NOT carnivores.
Apart from the hideous/toxic metabolites containing sulphur and nitrogen, when we eat a lot of protien, our bodies (liver I think) turns that excess protein into glucose sugar. We try to use it for energy
Thus: A high-protien diet is no different to a diet comprising iced doughnuts washed down with ‘Classic Coca Cola’

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fretslider
Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 29, 2022 4:30 am

being depressed for a long time leads to paranoia, your brain loses its agility, its cognitive skill and its memory starts falling apart.”

There seems to be a lot of it about.

But then add in the ceaseless educashun/propaganda element to it all…

The climate crisis and the rise of eco-anxiety
Levels of eco-anxiety are growing, particularly among children and young people, and are likely to be significant and potentially damaging to individuals and society, warn Mala Rao and Richard A Powell”
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/10/06/the-climate-crisis-and-the-rise-of-eco-anxiety/

Psychiatrists and psychologists just pulled ahead of doctors and dentists.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 30, 2022 5:12 am

“being depressed for a long time leads to paranoia, your brain loses its agility, its cognitive skill and its memory starts falling apart.”

Now that is a perfect description of Griff.

Seriously, what is your definition of a “high” protein diet?

John Garrett
April 29, 2022 4:23 am

Reason #562 why you don’t believe a word of media reports

Which is it?

CVX MarketWatch • 36 minutes ago
Chevron stock slips as profit soars but misses expectations, while revenue records a big beat

CVX TheStreet.com • 44 minutes ago
Chevron Stock Jumps After Q1 Profits Leap on Gas, Crude Oil Surge

Tom in Florida
Reply to  John Garrett
April 30, 2022 5:14 am

I learned very quickly not to listen to “advice” from services that sustain themselves by enticing newbees to buy those services.

Paul James
April 29, 2022 4:31 am

How can CO2 be so abundant in the atmosphere that it is causing a greenhouse effect? Gases are weighed according to their “Vapor Density.”

The relative weight of a gas or vapor compared to air, which has an arbitrary value of one. If a gas has a vapor density of less than one it will generally rise in air. If the vapor density is greater than one the gas will generally sink in air. And this: At standard temperature and pressure, the density of carbon dioxide is around 1.98 kg/m3, about 1.5 times that of air.
CO2 has a vapor density of 1.53, which means its quite a bit heavier than air.

So the CO2 that is generated on the planet’s surface stays down low & the CO2 produced in the skies will drift down to the planet, so where’s the greenhouse effect coming from?

Or did they rewrite the laws of chemistry like the did the laws of Thermo-Dynamics on 9/11?

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Paul James
April 30, 2022 6:34 pm

Diffusion.
Things that mix with each other do not segregate into layers very readily, all the time, or we would expect that nitrogen would be separate from oxygen, water vapor, etc…all into layers.
That does not happen, just as ethanol in water does not separate into layers.
Other forces can predominate at certain scales of time and aerial extent, or even indefinitely.

There is some tendency for things to separate out if there is no mixing from convection, advection, etc.
Even small particles of clay and silt and even sand will suspend in water moving fast, especially if there is a lot of turbulence, even though those bits of clay and silt and sand (each term denoting a particular range of particle sizes) are small pieces of minerals…tiny bits of rock…that are far heavier than water.
The inside curve of a river has higher velocity that outside curves, and so erosion tends to predominate on the inner margin of a curve, and deposition at outer curves.
Over time, this leads to rivers (in what is called a mature stream) changing shape and even the entire channel over time. Oxbows become stranded forming lakes with a distinctive shape that may take centuries to fill in with sediment on a flood plain.
See here:
http://schoolworkhelper.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/flow-plain.jpg

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Water at different temps or levels of salinity will stay separated into distinct layers (the boundary called a thermocline, halocline, etc…) far longer than one might expect given rates of diffusion and the velocity of each molecule.
CO2 that is outgassed from a lake may form a long lived layer than will suffocate people at considerable distance from the lake, even though CO2 is found in relatively high concentrations at considerable altitude due to atmospheric turbulence, and also due to the fact that in a gas or liquid (any fluid) has molecules moving at a wide range of velocities at any given time.
MAXWELL-BOLTZMANN DISTRIBUTION (thermopedia.com)
thermodynamics – Why does air remain a mixture? – Physics Stack Exchange
There are videos showing CO2 concentration in the air with a 3D perspective.
Generally CO2 tends to be higher in concentration at lower levels, but there are swirls of high concentration appearing occasionally at great heights due to convective and other turbulent forces in the atmosphere:

https://youtu.be/syU1rRCp7E8

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lee
April 29, 2022 4:32 am

““When a Brazilian free-tailed bat makes it all the way to Appalachia, we should be invested in knowing what viruses are tagging along,” says Carlson.”

“Bat Coronavirus in Brazil Related to Appalachian Ridge and Porcine Epidemic Diarrhea Viruses” (So they must have been there before.)
“Brazilian free-tailed bats are so named because they migrate from the United States to as far as Brazil during the winter.”

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Greytide
April 29, 2022 4:34 am

It is more likely that it is NOTHING to do with the climate and more to do with us have moved into their natural territory and are now in closer contact through our own actions of destroying their natural habitat. If only we would stop expanding and leave room for other species, we would be better off.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Greytide
April 29, 2022 6:27 am

What about situations where us humans are the prey & those nasty mosquitos carrying malaria &
the West Nile virus are the predators? Not “destroying their natural habitat” is definitely not a
workable solution.

Bryan A
Reply to  Greytide
April 29, 2022 6:47 am

NAW They’re just passed at all the Wind Turbine “Bat Choppers” we have erected in the name of Saving The Planet

DHR
April 29, 2022 4:46 am

I suppose these researchers would recommend that no one ever go to a zoo. Doubtless they are hotbeds of virus evolution that make them too dangerous to visit.

2hotel9
Reply to  DHR
April 29, 2022 5:49 am

Or a farm, so dirty and unclean and whatnot! Do I really have to put a sarc tag on this?

April 29, 2022 5:36 am

Fact 1: Earth is not warming, it is cooling for the past several years, as we correctly predicted in 2002.

Fact 2: This is a nonsense alarmist article – technically incorrect on many fronts. There was no real pandemic in 2020-2022. Some of the evidence is summarized below.

The level of Covid-19 corruption and data manipulation in the USA was extreme, greater than the rest of the world, where it was still huge.
 
Treatments in USA hospitals including deliberately delayed treatment, and then use of ventilators and toxic remdesivir (that destroyed livers and kidneys) needlessly increased deaths – and hospitals were given bonuses for doing so. Also, in New York and other states and provinces, Covid-19-positive patients were sent into nursing homes to infect other patients and that move increased death rates.
 
THE ANALYSIS OF COVID-19 WAS COMPLICATED BY DELIBERATELY CORRUPTED DATA
 
The origin of the Covid-19 manufactured virus was deliberately obscured – the true source of the Covid-19 virus was the Wuhan China bioweapons lab, gain-of-function research sponsored by Fauci’s group after this dangerous research was outlawed in the USA.
 
Here are just some of the examples of data tampering:

The epidemic modelling from Cambridge University was hopelessly inflated and alarmist – possibly even deliberately false.
 
The March 2020 lockdown was never justified – there was an illness, but it was an mild-to-average winter flu with NO EXCESS WINTER DEATHS in Alberta or Canada in Winter 2019-2020, as recorded to July 1, 2020 vs the trendline of the previous six years.
https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/05/climate-change-covid-19-and-the-great-reset-update-1e-readonly.docx
Repeating, there was NO increase in total deaths in Alberta and in Canada to July 1, 2020. No “death bump” above the trend line means NO REAL PANDEMIC! Scamdemic, yes! Casedemic, yes! Pandemic, no!
 
Hospitals were emptied in mid-March 2020 for a “tsunami of Covid-cases” that never happened – one typical 600-bed Alberta hospital averaged less than 5 Covid-cases during its two-month Covid-19 shutdown.
 
The Covid-19 lockdown was completely unjustified – pure government propaganda. I published that correct assessment on 21March 2020, just one week into the lockdowns.
 
In both Canada and the USA, PCR tests were run at a concentration factor of ~45, which gives an enormous bias towards false positives.
 
The average age of deaths in Alberta attributed to COVID-19 was 82 and that was true until the commencement of the toxic vaccinations. That number has declined to about 78 as
more younger people die from the vaccines.
 
Effective treatment with Ivermectin etc was falsely vilified and effectively banned in many developed countries, including the USA and Canada, so that the costly, toxic Covid-19 “vaccines” could be forced on a trusting public. I advised the Alberta government on 8Jan2021 to not deploy these toxic “vaccines”.
 
Many countries including the USA and Canada labeled people as “UNvaccinated” until 14 days after their second Covid-19 shot (or their first shot for single-dose injections like J&J). That is how they falsely concealed the many early deaths and serious illnesses caused by the vaccines within the “Unvaxxed” population.
 
I published in late 2020 that reported Covid-19 deaths in the USA were more than ten times per capita Covid-19 deaths in Alberta – because many non-Covid USA deaths in the USA were falsely coded as Covid-19. The actual number of Covid-19 deaths in the USA was
about 1/16 of the reported deaths. The USA coding definition was changed in March 2020 so that every death with a positive PCR test was coded as Covid-19 – even vehicle accident deaths were labelled Covid-19.
 
The above facts just “scratch the surface” of the global Covid-19 fraud.

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Tom in Florida
Reply to  Allan MacRae
April 30, 2022 5:24 am

As an aside, I work with a female who is paranoid over COVID. She still wears a mask all day. She recently informed me that her daughter, who lives in rural New York state, has come down with COVID and is very sick. Her daughter, according to her, has all her shots and boosters and wears a mask. My question was, is it really COVID or something else? I then said, “If it truly is COVID, I guess she is proof that those things don’t work.” She thought I was heartless and cruel.

2hotel9
April 29, 2022 5:44 am

Well, we dodged a bullet there! Good thing the climate is not warming, the lie spewing liars will just have to make an excuse for their plandemic, same as they did in 2020.

Mike
April 29, 2022 6:00 am

Climate change: There’s nothing it can’t do! Next thing you know, climate change will cause men to change into women!

Mr.
Reply to  Mike
April 29, 2022 11:32 am

One very cold cold morning, I thought that’s what had happened to me 🙁

lil mule pepe
Reply to  Mike
April 29, 2022 12:39 pm

Best comment of the month. Too funny.

AntonyIndia
April 29, 2022 6:28 am

100% expected: crying ‘wolf” for a flu combined with panicking for a slight temp. increase. Both Siamese twins born out of politicized science cross bred with mass propaganda.
Off-Guardian and James Corbett report know the end game for this global non-sense: the WEF’s world wide technocracy plan based on social credits. Total control a la 1984. They are all jealous of the CCP’s grip on China.

MARTIN BRUMBY
April 29, 2022 6:34 am

“The authors report having no personal financial interests related to the study.”

Yeah Right.

So what do these twerps imagine they get paid for?

Obviously for nothing having anything even tenuously to do with science


Pablo
April 29, 2022 6:50 am

The B.S. gets deeper and deeper everyday. Scientists have become worse than politicians. They can model anything for a price. Remember the basis for a pandemic being a test that doesn’t test for anything specific. That was a neat trick. They can predict the next pandemic because they manufacture it, in a virtual world.

Gordon A. Dressler
April 29, 2022 6:55 am

Even though I had the opportunity to present a very similar comment just two articles ago, regarding a Princeton University peer-reviewed publication, it bears repeating here with just slight tweaking:

From the first paragraph, in the above peer-reviewed (no less!) paper out of Georgetown University Medical Center (no less!):
Blah, blah, blah . . .dramatically increasing the risk of a viral jump to humans that could lead to the next pandemic . . . blah, blah, blah, blah

One has to admire the utility of words such as “could”, “might”, “may”, etc., that offer such an appearance of a meaningful conclusion without actually requiring any committed reasoning from the author(s) writing such . . . just handwaving instead.

Indeed, I could win the mega-millions lottery tomorrow (but do I first need to go so far as to buy a ticket?).

As to lead author Dr. Colin Carlson’s statements further down the article:
“At every step, our simulations have taken us by surprise . . .but the models always lead us to these conclusions. It’s a really stunning example of just how well we can, actually, predict the future if we try.
So try to put this into proper context with this lead-in sentence in the second paragraph of the above article:
“In their study, the scientists conducted the first comprehensive assessment of how climate change will restructure the global mammalian virome.” 
(my underlining emphasis added in both quotes above)

So, mindful that the above article is self-admitted to being published in the April 28, 2022 edition of the journal Nature (i,e,, just yesterday!) and that there is the claim of having spent “years double checking the simulation results”, there has actually been zero opportunity for independent, outside critical review—let alone model validation by independent reviewers—of the stated claims.

As a matter of fact, it is hard to understand how the phrases “at every step, taken us by surprise” and “the models always lead us to these conclusions” and “we can, actually, predict the future if we try” are not just oxymoronic when put in the context of mere “years”.

What the heck (in deference to using a more vulgar word) has become of the peer-review process???

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Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
April 29, 2022 3:52 pm

That stood out to me as well, as being an incredibly inane and unsupportable statement.
They ran some simulations of what they predict will happen, and they confirmed it to actually predict the future, because they kept getting the same result in their SIMULATION of what they are predicting!

How can any serious person beclown themselves so completely, and yet be oblivious to the fact of their own self-beclownment?

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
April 29, 2022 5:28 pm

Exactly! Well said.

John Kelly
April 29, 2022 7:21 am

Pure science fiction.

Gerald Machnee
April 29, 2022 7:38 am

Those pseudo-scientists should enter their paper in a fiction writing contest.
Anyone who does not know that the virus came from a lab is lying, believes every lie from the media and Fauci, or does not care enough to check.
The only question is was it deliberately released or was it accidental a little earlier than planned. There were meetings discussing trying to inject the whole world. The media was noted to be a “useful tool” in publicity of a panic.
This was a test run. They would like it to be worse the next time to sell more “injections” as they moaned that not enough people were lining up for the flu vaccine. They even tested the amount of poison in different batches.
And make no mistake, Gates is in on it.

Andy Pattullo
April 29, 2022 7:48 am

I am an academic infectious disease specialist and have seen this all before. I have lectured on the failed predictions of disease-global warming theory and I find there is a track record of inventing or exaggerating all the worst case scenarios and ignoring experience which shows us there is nothing to be alarmed about. The worst times for infectious disease outbreaks among humans were the coldest periods of our history, when crop production declined, nutrition degraded and human immune function was weakened. At these times typically animals that are vectors of human infection came in closer contact with human settlements because of the cold induced scarcity of food.

With the present gentle warming and CO2 enrichment of the atmosphere food production is at an all time high, human health and immunity are nearly optimal and infection diseases are a trivial concern in terms of limiting the duration of human life in most regions. If we see food scarcity again (and it may be just on the horizon) it will be because of green fanatics, idiotic political thinking and armed conflict as is now ongoing sadly in Ukraine.

DaveS
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
April 29, 2022 9:47 am

Thank you for a dose of sanity. Something that seems in short supply in some corners of academia.

Stuart Hamish
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
May 1, 2022 10:55 am

” The worst times for infectious disease outbreaks among humans were the coldest periods of our history ,when crop production declined , nutrition degraded and human immune function was weakened . At these times typically animals that are vectors of human infection came in closer contact with human settlements because of the cold induced scarcity of food “……. Yes that is the pattern of history Andy .The Justinian Plague broke out during the 535 – 45 climatic downturn and famines with recurrent outbreaks in the Late Antiquity Little Ice Age …….The Black Death pandemic that killed an estimated 50 % of China’s population and 40% of continental Europe and the British Isles , flared in Europe after the extremely cold and wet ‘Great Famine years of 1315 – 22 , the 1330’s and 1340’s Even malaria and the sweating sickness [ thought to be a hantavirus] were endemic across Europe in the Middle Ages …. Endemic malaria was commonplace in medieval Europe as far north as 68N throughout Scandinavia and northern Russia European malaria infection rates only began to fade after the last epidemic in the 1920’s .The Influenza epidemic that ravaged the malnourished soldiery and civilians of Western Europe in 1918, thereafter taking the lives of 20 – 50 million people worldwide, assumed pathogenesis after a succession of Atlantic cold waves swept over the sodden trenches military hospitals and unsanitary encampments .of France and Belgium .Some epidemiologists suspect the 1916 -18 cold waves and atrocious WWI battlefield conditions interrupted the migratory pathways of [ influenza reservoir] avian flocks

Stuart Hamish
Reply to  Stuart Hamish
May 1, 2022 10:26 pm

” A Once – In – A – Century – Climate Anomaly Made WW1 And The Spanish Flu Even More Hellish ‘ https://iflscience.com/environment/a-onceinacentury-climate-anomaly-made-ww1-and-the-spanish-flu-even-more-hellish/

whiten
April 29, 2022 7:50 am

There is far far too many idiots and stupids with PhD(s) these days out there.

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Mr.
Reply to  whiten
April 29, 2022 11:34 am

But the more of them there are, the more the value of the currency is diminished.

AWG
April 29, 2022 8:50 am

As the earth’s climate continues to warm, researchers predict wild animals will be forced to relocate their habitats – likely to regions with large human populations – dramatically increasing the risk of a viral jump to humans that could lead to the next pandemic. 

That is a comprehensively stupid statement. Everyone involved should be stripped of any characterization of being a “scientist”, “researcher” or even “sentient”.

I have been told for decades that “wild animals” are fully incompatible with human habitats. Despite the Spotted Owl claimed as both endangered and requiring millions of acres of pristine, untouched environment, we find them nesting in large neon signs in packed shopping centers. So what is it? Does the narrative need for wild animals to have wilderness, or can they squat in the common areas of an apartment complex?

I was told that two meters distance will save me from the Wuhan Death Miasma, do the models now have us sharing a bed with wild animals or has the science changed yet again where viruses can travel vast distances and through solid walls?

We were told that once human infecting viruses were commonplace in animals, that the resulting disease is endemic, not pandemic. Has that science changed that now pandemic covers any condition that gives license to politicians to rationalize their depraved indifference to human suffering, and return to highly lethal and destructive “lock-downs” and other liberty destroying tactics?

Walking though the neighborhood, I can feel temperature differences as I enter and leave areas with changing vegetation, proximity to water or slight changes in elevation. In a one mile walk, do I go through radical changes in habitation and environment where I can expect huge changes in flora and fauna? Can someone explain to me how zoos work?

“…dramatically increasing the risk…” is that in relative or absolute values? I understand that a 300% change might appear dramatic, but if it is 1:1,000,000 to 3:1,000,000 I’m not going to see a shrink and get a script for anti-anxiety meds.

I like the rhetorical use of the word “force” as in the animals won’t voluntarily or organically move, but that there will be some outside agent that compels them with the threat of violence. Again, will an entire species of animal get up and migrate into cities just because of a 0.1C degree change in 100 years?

And I can’t help to enjoy the weasel language of “predict”, “likely”, “could” which is a signal to us all that what we are reading is political bovine scat – which just so happens to claim to be “peer reviewed”.

Written, edited and reviewed by utter fools.

Duane
April 29, 2022 9:38 am

A warming climate is the least likely type of climate change to affect pandemics. Historically it has always been that the most virulent pandemics occured during cold periods. It’s easy enough to understand why. Cold eras depress food production, less food results in starvation, starvation creates massive stress on the human body, and stressed bodies are far more susceptible to disease than are unstressed bodies.

Slowroll
April 29, 2022 9:57 am

If more people would stop and realize that all these doom mongers must continue their doom mongering or they don’t have a job. Then maybe there would be more
realists like us.

Olen
April 29, 2022 12:38 pm

After the virus problem was known China sent it’s people all around the world on business and vacation. It should be asked what was their intention.

TallDave
April 29, 2022 5:55 pm

lol do they know about COVID’s temperature association?

Steven Candy
April 29, 2022 6:14 pm

This is the new but totally invalid and dangerous scientific paradigm that is infecting scientific research “..We’ve spent years double-checking those results, with different data and different assumptions, but the models always lead us to these conclusions. It’s a really stunning example of just how well we can, actually, predict the future if we try.” So we dont need to wait for empirical validation of predictions of the future and be cautious about them in the meantime, we can be sure now, declaring victory in advance, and act incautiously because a suite of modeller-instigated models agree! Havent they heard of Rumsfeld’s “unknown unknowns” including “lurking variables”, also is there any support of forward predictions from backward predictions i.e. hindcasting, or can we infer a degree of researcher confirmation bias, deliberate bias, “this will get it published” bias, “this will make us famous as scientific watchmen” bias etc etc?

Jphn
April 29, 2022 10:10 pm

The most likely route of animal to human disease transmission is domestic pets. People kiss and cuddle their Pets.

Next in line for transmission risk is the animals we farm and eat.

After that it is the wildlife that regard us as food.

whiten
Reply to  Jphn
April 30, 2022 3:38 am

Jphn

For the most part of the last century it seems to be more likely the application of modern technology in health care, mostly pharmaceutical research laboratories.
The SarsCov2 case highlights this proposition.
Far too many significant virus cross species jumps.

cheers

Doonman
April 30, 2022 2:16 am

researchers predict

But not at the racetrack.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Doonman
April 30, 2022 2:02 pm

Always bet the gray horse.

Walter Sobchak
April 30, 2022 8:13 am

METHOD OF RESEARCH: Computational simulation/modeling

Video games. Scary scary video games.

Focus your worries on real prolems like Fauci funding the People’s Liberation Army’s work on viruses more virulent.

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Mike McHenry
April 30, 2022 12:21 pm

The Ouija board professors.

Oddgeir
May 4, 2022 9:48 am

“Climate Change Could Spark the Next Pandemic”
“Scientists” are WAY behind the curve: It’s been known from the outset of the Covid-19 Plandemic that Gro Harlem Brundtland, yes the Climate Fiction Queen, also co-chaired the Plandemic’s playbook.

https://www.gpmb.org/
https://www.gpmb.org/#tab=tab_3
https://www.gpmb.org/annual-reports/annual-report-2019

So… The Plandemic terror was an exersize in Climate Change policy implementations.

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We’ve held it for VERY possible that the next logical step after a series of outrageous policy implementations, starting even at least a couple of decades back, was to rid the planet of critical voices by means of WW3. A total clean-out. A fresh start. A beat-up population happily accepting scraps from the rich and famous’ tables.

We’re there.

Conjuncture has it that USA, at war with Russia using Ukraine as a proxy, the Russkie has had enough of the US nonsense and will follow up, after defeating US forces in Ukraine (some 30,000 US troops masquerading as ukranians), Russia will be marching over European territory to throw the yankee into the ocean to “liberate” Europe from the yankee occupants.

What’s next? Nukes?

Oddgeir

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