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Felix
February 26, 2022 1:33 pm

IANAWG or a CG, and I have a naive but serious question; I can imagine lots of snarky answers which don’t interest me.

Climate is usually / sometimes defined was 30 year old weather. Yet we continually hear of temperatures or winds or rainfall breaking 100 year old records. Seems like there should be some arbitrary limit. Recorded history is too short for any reliable measurements over, say, 200 years. Someone in the year 2500 claiming to have recorded the hottest day since 1907 seems a bit suspect.

Has anyone ever attempted to limit records to the last 30 years?

Reply to  Felix
February 26, 2022 1:56 pm

Talking about people of 2500 is Hunting the Snark.
They found the Snark was a Boojum after all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunting_of_the_Snark

That was more than 30 years ago.

Drake
Reply to  Felix
February 26, 2022 5:46 pm

Yes, griff.

Reply to  Felix
February 27, 2022 12:00 am

CET has reliable temperatures back to the 17th Century for Central England (reliable until the Met Office started adjusting things that is)

OK, it’s not the world but it’s the best we’ve got.

This version from Clive Best

CET-Seasons.png
February 26, 2022 1:46 pm

Ironically, it seems Putin is unwittingly going to save the West from the brainless headlong self destruction of our economies, culture and personal freedoms in a Dark Ages Great Reset by elitist billionaires, for which climate change is the phoney front.

We will relearn quickly that our security depends on a strong economy, an abundance of low cost energy, a well educated population and robust development of mineral and other resources.

rah
Reply to  Gary Pearse
February 26, 2022 2:04 pm

I hope your right, but I won’t hold my breath.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
February 26, 2022 2:04 pm

Not so easy – peesy.
Putin said he knows the West weak-points. Remember 2008? We are heading to a financial crash to make 2008 look like a Dacha tea party.

Since we are heading there anyway, and sanctions were anyway on the way, way to go!

Of course we have another way in the forest path – split the banks with Glass-Steagall.
China has this.
So, just maybe, the transatlantic way will fork. Russia has no more illusions.

The Road Not Taken By Robert Frost

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

Reply to  bonbon
February 26, 2022 2:32 pm

re: “Putin said he knows the West weak-points.

You don’t say … and who was it that said the following?

“Where are the humanitarian fundamentals of Western political thought? … What are the general ethical limits in the world where the potential of science and machines are becoming almost boundless? … Some people in the West believe that an aggressive elimination of entire pages from their own history, ‘reverse discrimination’ against the majority in the interests of a minority, and the demand to give up the traditional notions of mother, father, family and even gender, they believe that all of these are the mileposts on the path towards social renewal.

Not to mention some truly monstrous things when children are taught from an early age that a boy can easily become a girl and vice versa. That is, the teachers actually impose on them a choice we all supposedly have. They do so while shutting the parents out of the process and forcing the child to make decisions that can upend their entire life. They do not even bother to consult with child psychologists – is a child at this age even capable of making a decision of this kind? Calling a spade a spade, this verges on a crime against humanity, and it is being done in the name and under the banner of progress.

Putin, at plenary session of the 18th Annual Meeting Of The Valdai International Discussion Club

https://wmbriggs.com/post/39208/#comment-207557

Reply to  _Jim
February 26, 2022 3:13 pm

All of that stuff is fluff – watch 2007/2008. The entire financial system is about to implode. That needs to be acknowleged, not fluff stuff.

Reply to  bonbon
February 26, 2022 3:17 pm

Is this the “Man has no soul” bonbon speaking now?

Reply to  bonbon
February 26, 2022 3:43 pm

You are proving to be a useful foil, or is that useful foo*, bonbon?

In any case: “Plenary Session at the 18th Annual Meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club”Oct 22, 2021
Putin as guest

niceguy
Reply to  _Jim
February 26, 2022 7:32 pm

No wonder why Putin can’t accept NATO anywhere near, more now than ever.

The West used to have conscience. Not perfect by far, but the West was not cray cray back then (Cold War times).

Reply to  Gary Pearse
February 27, 2022 3:32 am

I think this video by Neil Oliver is pertinent to your comment Gary, well worth a listen…

February 26, 2022 2:53 pm

Just heard a “Steve Mosher” interviewed on Sky News downunder – is this the guy from wattsupwiththat or is it another Steve Mosher ? Bearded guy looked ~55 or 60 yrs old.

Reply to  wazz
February 26, 2022 3:23 pm

I have heard a Steven Mosher interviewed by Al Kresta (of Kresta In The Afternoon) I think it was, and it was not the same Mosher …

Steven W. Mosher – Steven was a secular humanist studying at Stanford University. In 1979, he visited China and …

February 26, 2022 3:56 pm

This is worth a look. Dr.Roy Spencer on Sky New Australia talking about how google has demonetized his website because they don’t like his work.



February 26, 2022 4:23 pm

bonbon, do take note –

An historic event, and get out the duct tape and assure at three layers are wrapped around those heads who will surely explode upon reading this blurb:

Announcement, the TPV (ThermoPhotovoltaic SunCell®)-SunCell Presentations and Demonstrations

We will be giving presentations and live demonstrations (stream limited by venue infrastructure) at the (1) 2022 Battelle Climate Conference (March 29-30, 2022 Columbus, Ohio) and the (2) 2022 MIT Energy Conference (Thursday, March 31st – Friday, April 1st, 2022 at the Boston Marriott Cambridge).

(1) https://www.battelle.org/conferences/conference-on-innovations-in-climate-resilience
(2) https://mitenergyconference.org/

Below is a boiler-SunCell generating in excess of 200 kW steam plume (no audio-video only):

https://youtu.be/yE5kM4NhaOI

observa
February 26, 2022 4:41 pm

Water water everywhere and not a drop to drink-
Grim warning Australia’s rain could last for months (msn.com)
Where’s Tim ‘the dams are never gunna fill’ Flannery when you need him? Predictions are never easy particularly about future weather in a 15 year old schoolgirl’s land of drought and flooding rains eh Tim?

niceguy
February 26, 2022 5:30 pm

When browsing Twitter, most replies that are findable and read (those are on top), on conservative, liberal, progressive, leftist, etc. tweets are from accounts (often no real name, no real photo, and bizarre bios) that have a low volume of real content (original tweets) and again prop up often those accounts that I bookmarked (this is copy-paste of an HTML dump of my bookmark database, hence the s.w.org/images/core/emoji links):

David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) / Twitter

Don Winslow (@donwinslow) / Twitter

Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) / Twitter

NoelCaslerComedy (@caslernoel) / Twitter

George Hahn (@georgehahn) / Twitter

Jon Cooper https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1f8.svg (@joncoopertweets) / Twitter

Rex Chapmanhttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f3c7-1f3fc.svg (@RexChapman) / Twitter

Jim Stewartson, Antifascist, #RIPQ https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1f8.svghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f3f4-200d-2620-fe0f.svg (@jimstewartson) / Twitter

Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) / Twitter

Angry Staffer (@Angry_Staffer) / Twitter

Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) / Twitter

Barbara Malmet (@B52Malmet) / Twitter

Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen) / Twitter

Chip Franklinhttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f3db.svgInsideTheBeltway.com (@chipfranklin) / Twitter

BrooklynDad_Defiant! (@mmpadellan) / Twitter

Southern Sister Resister – Wordsmith #IAmTheStorm (@ResisterSis20) / Twitter

Tristan Snell (@TristanSnell) / Twitter

Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) / Twitter

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) / Twitter

Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D (@RVAwonk) / Twitter

Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) / Twitter

Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) / Twitter

Glenn Kirschner (@glennkirschner2) / Twitter

John Pavlovitz (@johnpavlovitz) / Twitter

Duty To Warn https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f509.svg (@duty2warn) / Twitter

Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) / Twitter

Jill Wine-Banks (@JillWineBanks) / Twitter

Claire McCaskill (@clairecmc) / Twitter

Aaron Parnas (@AaronParnas) / Twitter

Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) / Twitter

Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) / Twitter

Daniel Uhlfelder (@DWUhlfelderLaw) / Twitter

Grant Stern is fully vaccinated (@grantstern) / Twitter

Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) / Twitter

ReallyAmerican.com https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1f8.svg (@ReallyAmerican1) / Twitter

Andrea Junker (@Strandjunker) / Twitter

Fred Wellman (@FPWellman) / Twitter

CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) / Twitter

https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f595-1f3fb.svgAunt Crabby Calls Bullshit https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f595-1f3fb.svg (@DearAuntCrabby) / Twitter

Kyla In The Burgh https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f3f3-fe0f-200d-1f308.svghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f3f4-200d-2620-fe0f.svg (@KylaInTheBurgh) / Twitter

Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) / Twitter

Robert Reich (@RBReich) / Twitter

Cole (@cole_hartigan) / Twitter

Ricky Davila (@TheRickyDavila) / Twitter

Colin Martin (@NotGbo) / Twitter

Frank Figliuzzi (@FrankFigliuzzi1) / Twitter

The USA Singers (@TheUSASingers) / Twitter

Steven Beschloss (@StevenBeschloss) / Twitter

Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) / Twitter

Emily Winston (@Emywinst) / Twitter

TheSadTruthhttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f499.svg (@ReportsDaNews) / Twitter

TG (@TG22110) / Twitter

Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) / Twitter

Max Kennerly (@MaxKennerly) / Twitter

Jo (@JoJoFromJerz) / Twitter

Scott Dworkin (@funder) / Twitter

Ari Berman (@AriBerman) / Twitter

Jennifer ‘pro-voting’ Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) / Twitter

Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) / Twitter

Tim O’Brien (@TimOBrien) / Twitter

Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) / Twitter

John Collins (@Logically_JC) / Twitter

(((DeanObeidallah))) (@DeanObeidallah) / Twitter

Cheri Jacobus (@CheriJacobus) / Twitter

Tomi Ahonen 15 Counts of Petite Larceny Witch Hunt (@tomiahonen) / Twitter

MeidasTouch.com (@MeidasTouch) / Twitter

VoteVets (@votevets) / Twitter

https://twitter.com/BlackKnight10k

Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) / Twitter

Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) / Twitter

Jemele Hill (@jemelehill) / Twitter

The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) / Twitter

Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) / Twitter

Stephanie Winston Wolkoff (@SWinstonWolkoff) / Twitter

Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) / Twitter

Olga Lautman (@OlgaNYC1211) / Twitter

Greg Olear (@gregolear) / Twitter

Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) / Twitter

Avenger Resister (@AvengerResister) / Twitter

Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) / Twitter

Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) / Twitter

https://twitter.com/Emily60946744

Daniel Dale (@ddale8) / Twitter

PatriotTakes https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1f8.svg (@patriottakes) / Twitter

Luke Zaleski (@ZaleskiLuke) / Twitter

Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) / Twitter

https://twitter.com/AmyAThatcher

Badd Company (@BaddCompani) / Twitter

https://twitter.com/neal_katyal

Jad Zahab (@Jad_Zahab) / Twitter

jean garrigues (@jeangarr78) / Twitter

Angela Belcamino (@AngelaBelcamino) / Twitter

Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) / Twitter

Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) / Twitter

Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) / Twitter

Kurt Bardella (@kurtbardella) / Twitter

Amy Siskind https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f3f3-fe0f-200d-1f308.svg (@Amy_Siskind) / Twitter

Michael Harriot (@michaelharriot) / Twitter

James Gleick (@JamesGleick) / Twitter

Travis Allen https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1f8.svg (@TravisAllen02) / Twitter

Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) / Twitter

Sam Stein (@samstein) / Twitter

Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) / Twitter

Qasim Rashid, Esq. (@QasimRashid) / Twitter

Andy Behrman (@electroboyusa) / Twitter

David Weissman (@davidmweissman) / Twitter

Rose (@Rose51930515) / Twitter

A Democratic Republic https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1f2.svg (@terabytnet) / Twitter

Khashoggi’s Ghost (@UROCKlive1) / Twitter

Like 6 months ago, accounts like “BrooklynDad_Defiant!” would come up much more often. A few years ago “B52Malmet” would come up like all the time!
I find these patterns utterly improbable.

The US twitter space is unlike other spaces. Almost all of those accounts that come up often are not only silly, they are uninteresting. They never say anything witty, original or break up real or even fake but credible news.

To me the US twitter is complete propaganda and bad one at that. Not even designed to convince those that could be convinced. (In particular, the abysmally inane “duty2warn” spyop.)

Mark E Shulgasser
February 26, 2022 7:32 pm

I’ve never understood how globalization would not become synonymous with totalitarianism.
After all, global means total, right?

Ireneusz Palmowski
February 26, 2022 11:10 pm

A snowstorm begins in Kentucky.comment image

rah
February 26, 2022 11:59 pm

Many may be wondering why the Russian military is not performing up to expected standards. I will propose two reasons. 
1. The Russian Army is made up primarily of conscripts with no combat experience. Their opponents, on defense however, have a lot of soldiers with combat experience.  
2. Lots of civilians armed and dangerous and a number of them are also combat veterans. You are seeing one reason why our founders wanted the 2nd amendment. 

Saw on the news an 80 year old man with an AK sitting looking out his apartment window. He said something like ‘I’m going to kill those Russian Sons a Bitches’.  

Reply to  rah
February 27, 2022 3:27 am

“1. The Russian Army is made up primarily of conscripts”

I believe that has changed rah, the majority now being professional soldiers, but yes there are still a lot of conscripts.

observa
February 27, 2022 4:47 am

The humpback whales are crawling all over the coast and becoming a nuisance to boaties so finally they have to announce the bleeding obvious-
Humpback whales no longer listed as endangered after major recovery – ABC News
..BUT don’t forget climate change and the dooming folks. Expect the usual dose of the vapours and the end is nigh when they press on their food stocks and a few emaciated sickly humpbacks start washing up between the surf lifesaving flags. That will require the usual copious grants.

Tom.1
February 27, 2022 11:49 am

We get many posts and comments on posts here on the safety hazards of electric vehicles and lithium battery fires. It strikes me that many people here actually hope for failure of electric vehicles in order to spite the climate alarmists. I see no point in wishing for failure of anything all depending of course on some kind of cost benefit analysis. However, the concerns about battery fires are overloaded on the side of their unique fire hazard problem, which would be a cost in the cost benefit analysis. I am not expert in this in any way, but without that I can still observe the following:

  1. There are millions of electric vehicles on the road now and millions more being sold every year. Even though the overall market penetration is still small, there is apparently a high level of acceptance of electric vehicles among consumers. The biggest impediments to people buying electric cars are mostly likely initial cost, and driving range. Obviously, the market could turn against EV’s and sales could dry up; I’m not going to try to predict (or wish for) that.
  2. In addition to 1., practically all major auto companies have plans to convert to electric vehicles. I can’t imagine they would be doing this if they thought the vehicles they were planning on producing would present an unacceptable level of risk to the driving public. They can’t not have considered this. The largest car manufacturer by market cap makes nothing but EV’s.
  3. Government agencies such as NHTSA would not allow the manufacture or continued manufacture of automobiles that presented an unacceptable level of risk or were generally unsafe. Consider some of the problems we’ve had with air bags which have actually killed people.
  4. EV and battery technology is still in its infancy. There will no doubt be improvements as the industry matures.
  5. The industry that most understands risk, insurance, will have say in this through what it is willing to sell insurance for, if at all. It does cost more to insure an EV, but that is probably due to their higher cost and higher repair cost, not the battery fire risk.
  6. The problem has been studied by experts with no finding of excessive risk due to battery fire. Why Electric-Powered Vehicle Fires Make Headlines (battelle.org)
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