Drought No More: Climate Change Now Causes Too Much Rain

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Can you tell what the previous year’s weather was like, by reading the latest climate science doomsday press releases?

More rainy days from climate change could dampen economic growth: Study

Scientists examined 40 years of data from more than 1,500 global regions.

ByDaniel Manzo
13 January 2022, 04:32

More rainy days and extreme rainfall likely will hurt global economies, according to new research from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.

“This is about prosperity — and ultimately about people’s jobs,” Leonie Wenz, a lead scientist, told ABC News. “Economies across the world are slowed down by more wet days and extreme daily rainfall, an important insight that adds to our growing understanding of the true costs of climate change.”

“We know from previous work that flooding associated with extreme rainfall can damage infrastructure, which is critical to economic productivity, and also cause local disruptions to production,” said Wenz, adding that the new findings also suggest everyday disruptions caused by more rain will have “a disruptive effect on businesses, manufacturing, transportation.”

“Intensified daily rainfall turns out to be bad, especially for wealthy, industrialized countries like the U.S., Japan or Germany,” Wenz said. But smaller, more agrarian economies can see some benefits.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Business/rainy-days-climate-change-dampen-economic-growth-study/story?id=82185377

The abstract of the study;


The effect of rainfall changes on economic production

Maximilian KotzAnders Levermann & Leonie Wenz 

Nature volume 601, pages 223–227 (2022)Cite this article


Macro-economic assessments of climate impacts lack an analysis of the distribution of daily rainfall, which can resolve both complex societal impact channels and anthropogenically forced changes1,2,3,4,5,6. Here, using a global panel of subnational economic output for 1,554 regions worldwide over the past 40 years, we show that economic growth rates are reduced by increases in the number of wet days and in extreme daily rainfall, in addition to responding nonlinearly to the total annual and to the standardized monthly deviations of rainfall. Furthermore, high-income nations and the services and manufacturing sectors are most strongly hindered by both measures of daily rainfall, complementing previous work that emphasized the beneficial effects of additional total annual rainfall in low-income, agriculturally dependent economies4,7. By assessing the distribution of rainfall at multiple timescales and the effects on different sectors, we uncover channels through which climatic conditions can affect the economy. These results suggest that anthropogenic intensification of daily rainfall extremes8,9,10 will have negative global economic consequences that require further assessment by those who wish to evaluate the costs of anthropogenic climate change.

Read more: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04283-8

Last year the problem was drought;

Climate change and droughts: What’s the connection?

As average temperatures continue to climb, drought has become a permanent part of our vocabulary.


For tens of millions of Americans, drought has become an ever-present natural disaster.

Events such as the moderate-to-extreme drought conditions that covered more than half of the mainland U.S. in 2012, the megadrought in the West that continues today, and summer 2021’s record-low water levels at Lake Mead have kept dry spells in the news spotlight and kept drought impacts – strict water conservation measures, crop failures, and fears that dried-up vegetation will spark dangerous wildfires – on people’s minds.

That’s particularly true in the Western United States. Because of the West’s largely semi-arid and desert climates, droughts are natural occurrences across the region. However, regional climate isn’t the only culprit in drought activity. Climate change, namely rising average temperatures driven by human-generated emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases, is contributing to droughts, too.

Read more: https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2021/08/climate-change-and-droughts-whats-the-connection/

Of course, CO2 is an each way bet when it comes to extreme weather. Climate scientists probably feel no contradiction trying to attach their narrative to contradictory weather events. Every kind of bad weather is evidence that the demon molecule is cooking the world, including extreme cold and snow events.

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January 12, 2022 6:17 pm

The CO2 originated ‘Climate Change’ each-way bet is now producing a very wet drought over Eastern Australia.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
January 12, 2022 7:29 pm

And very dry flooding in central Queensland

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
January 12, 2022 8:06 pm

And causing the lack of cyclones but if any cyclone does occur and does any damage it is all because of global warming. Apparently the lack of cyclones is paradoxical but definitely a sign of global warming

Tom Abbott
Reply to  LdB
January 13, 2022 2:57 am

Everything is a sign of global warming to some people.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 21, 2022 4:28 am

Isn’t it cloudy when it rains? Doesn’t that cool things off? Just asking.

Tom Halla
January 12, 2022 6:23 pm

While all right thinking people know bad weather is caused by witches, putting to sea in sieves and transvecting to black rites. It is caused by Satan, Satan I tell you!
There is about as much actual evidence associating short term weather with climate change as there is for Satanic rites.

Reply to  Tom Halla
January 12, 2022 7:44 pm

don’t ignore the possibility the the Easter Bunny has just been pissed of by all of it.

Reply to  Tom Halla
January 12, 2022 9:56 pm

The only way to appease Satan is to wear masks, stay inside and take injections of mystery noxious substances. Oh yes, and sacrifice the elderly and your businesses.

Reply to  BCBill
January 14, 2022 12:40 am

Joining the fooling? Or have you never looked at the evidence. A novel virus is an unknown one. A vaccine will help your own immune system which has not acquired immunity to something it has not encountered before. Lack of logic has been an outcome of this pandemic but it has no place here on what is supposed to be a science site.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  M E
January 14, 2022 5:28 am

You think it’s logical to lock up the healthy people and destroy the economy rather than quarantining the sick? Wearing masks without any scientific studies showing that masks will do anything is logical? Yes, I agree that creating a vaccine is logical, but the results shown by these vaccines in the real world are nowhere near the results shown in the drug companies’ tests.

Reply to  M E
January 18, 2022 9:33 pm

At the beginning of the pandemic, all the ‘experts’ said masking was useless, that distancing and the hand sanitizing was good enough, and, oh ya, herd immunity after infection, esp. for a virus that most people won’t even know they have or will have mild symptoms. So which is it?
The doomsday rhetoric doesn’t match the protagonist in this horror story, which another commenter referred to as the ‘easter bunny’ – little bunny rabbit, great symbol for a virus that gives most people the sniffles, and politicians the shits.

Reply to  Tom Halla
January 12, 2022 10:18 pm

And pirates, don’t forget the pirates!

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 12, 2022 11:57 pm

When she’d eaten a boiled egg my granny made a hole in the bottom so witches couldn’t use it to go to sea. Put into verse like this

Oh, never leave your egg-shells unbroken in the cup;
Think of us poor sailor-men and always smash them up,
For witches come and find them and sail away to sea,
And make a lot of misery for mariners like me.

They take them to the sea-shore and set them on the tide –
A broom-stick for a paddle is all they have to guide
And off they go to China or round the ports of Spain,
To try and keep our sailing ships from coming home again.

They call up all the tempests from Davy Jones’s store,
And blow us into waters where we haven’t been before;
And when the masts are falling in splinters on the wrecks,
The witches climb the rigging and dance upon the decks.

So never leave your egg-shells unbroken in the cup;
Think of us poor sailor-men and always smash them up;
For witches come and find them and sail away to sea,
And make a lot of misery for mariners like me.’

John Larson
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 13, 2022 4:33 pm

This is your religion at work, it seems rather obvious to me, atheist. If you indoctrinate virtually all children to believe they are happenstance collections of cells, on a happenstance conglomeration of molecules, in a happenstance universe, then of course those who do believe that will be inclined to believe a happenstance abundance of extremely convenient fuels conveniently deposited all over the conglomeration of molecules could easily be a deathtrap we can trigger by using those fuels.

This makes no sense at all in the Christian worldview, but it makes perfect sense if everything is just happenstance . . and some high priests of Siants (sounds like science ; ) prophecy certain doom if we utilize the fuels.

Perhaps you thought/think that indoctrinating everyone to believe in your religion would somehow limit the ability of con artists to pull off such a stunt, but I can’t for the life of me understand why. The high priests are not blaming witches or Satan, they are blaming human beings for not believing them. It’s a perfect storm of atheistic “happenstancism”, and humans are prone to believe things that appear in their imaginations, which is rather easily arranged these days. Give credit where credits due, I suggest, rather than scapegoat those who don’t happen to be so gullible by design ; )

Reply to  John Larson
January 18, 2022 10:13 pm

I wouldn’t even call the alarmists atheists. I can put on my ‘atheist hat’ to try to think about an issue from their point of view, like you can’t justify something by resorting to a biblical verse. When I put on my “logical, rational, follow-the-science, scientist hat” – the alarmists and so-called environmentalists don’t make any sense – and I think that’s where Geta and company are coming in, as they realize that any industrial activity even making wind turbines and solar panels is going to hurt the environment. So hopefully the ‘woke’ wake up and realize they’re being played. Lots of made-up science by useful idiots and those trying to ride the climate gravy train, which is being used to mine lucrative subsidies and mandates created by basically pandering and corrupt politicians who take advantage of those ‘who care deeply for the environment’ – some of whom are the useful idiots at the start of the chain.
It’s a big disgusting and evil green circle-jerk.

Reply to  Tom Halla
January 13, 2022 9:19 pm

Grandma would never say the word pig it was always wig or wiggy. Sailor superstition all about weather.. no wonder global warming is rife.

Reply to  gowest
January 14, 2022 9:15 am

…And rabbits! Never utter the word “rabbit” when you are onboard a ship. Otherwise she will be wrecked in a few minutes. Anyways, if you cannot avoid talking about rabbits, use instead the term “hare’s cousin” !

Andre Lauzon
January 12, 2022 6:30 pm

Climate change has caused more lying, stupid, corrupt, dystopian morons within the last 50 years than the previous millennium. Many have become politicians and others actors. The rest are bureaucrats or scholars.

Reply to  Andre Lauzon
January 12, 2022 6:59 pm

You could do a whole paper on that. It might even get favourable treatment for publishing:
climate change – tick
bad outcome – tick
bureaucrats or scholars – tick (but exclude climate academics)
politicians – cross (needs a change here to show their good side)

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  RickWill
January 12, 2022 7:30 pm

needs a change here to show their good side

Wait, they have a good side?

Dave Fair
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
January 13, 2022 12:51 pm

They have a multitude of sides; it just depends on which way the weather vane turns.

Jeff Alberts
January 12, 2022 6:50 pm

This just in: Climate Scientists declare Earth’s systems should never, ever, ever change.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 13, 2022 2:58 am

If only Adam and Eve had obeyed God…..

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 18, 2022 10:18 pm

Why you trying to pick a fight with believers? Where would science be today without all the Jesuit priest-scientists? No big-bang, no genetics, need I go on?

Can’t we all just get along?

January 12, 2022 6:53 pm

Ok droughts are weather now not climate. Any kind of precipitation is climate, so no weather. Got it.

David More
Reply to  Pauleta
January 12, 2022 7:27 pm

we show that economic growth rates are reduced by increases in the number of wet days and in extreme daily rainfall, in addition to responding nonlinearly to the total annual and to the standardized monthly deviations of rainfall.

So this is why Death Valley is the new Economic Powerhouse of the West. Just keep the Rain Deviates far, far away.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  David More
January 13, 2022 7:25 am

The industrial Revolution was spawned by Brits in a rainstorm that seldom quits. This rev still hasn’t come to Death Valley.

Rick C
Reply to  David More
January 13, 2022 8:13 am

I suspect that the “non-linearity” is the result of the difference between flooding and just normal rain. I.e. no significant impact from a typical rain shower, but obvious disruption from a flood. I guess it takes a PhD to do a study to figure out what is obvious to everyone else.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Rick C
January 13, 2022 1:00 pm

Even the UN IPCC CliSciFi reports say the minor warming and small increase in rainfall we’ve had has not resulted in increasing flooding. And they point out that there are no increases in droughts, storms, hurricanes, tornados, SLR & etc. Mention that to the CliSciFi activists, politicians, Deep State bureaucrats, NGOs, crony capitalists & etc. and the lying liars just spew more lies and call you a denier. This will not end well for science nor democracy.

Reply to  Pauleta
January 12, 2022 8:10 pm

So now Climate Change is Global Pissin’. Got it!

Dave Fair
Reply to  Walter Keane
January 13, 2022 1:02 pm

No, Walter. CliSciFi is pissing on your leg and calling it rain.

Eve Stevens
January 12, 2022 6:57 pm

Of the 4 climate states, hot wet is the best. The Potsdam Institute for Climate Research thinks it will hurt us???

Reply to  Eve Stevens
January 13, 2022 5:24 pm

Of the 4 climate states, hot wet is the best.”
Nowhere near as good as cold wet cold dry apparently.

Reply to  Eve Stevens
January 18, 2022 10:22 pm

People flocking to Arizona apparently prefer the hot-dry quadrant, so climate science has predicted then that both quadrants will be happy.

alastair gray
January 12, 2022 7:10 pm

Classical Orwellian Doublethink. Can’t you get your head round it. Stop being so doubleplusungood Eric and voicing your badspeak or it is room 101 for you

Lewis Buckingham
January 12, 2022 7:13 pm

Impossible! Our Australian climate commissioner has declared definitively , ‘Ex Cathedra’ that the dams will never fill and the ground will be so hard and dry and hot that the water will evaporate off.
In the meanwhile its raining again outside.
In the meanwhile Warragamba dam did not get the prophecy and is 100% full
One wonders if the climate cult can ever be believed.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Lewis Buckingham
January 12, 2022 7:18 pm

No need to wonder, answer is apparent

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Lewis Buckingham
January 12, 2022 7:35 pm

One wonders if the climate cult can ever be believed.

Apparently they ran an ensemble of models. Although some models showed the Climate Cult acolytes to be utterly incompetent and fraudulent, some quick unexplained adjustments and some homogeneity with other models showed that Climate Cult acolytes are perfectly correct in every single pronouncement, extremely good looking, and overwhelmingly sexy.

John Karajas
Reply to  Lewis Buckingham
January 12, 2022 9:23 pm

Shout his name out loud, Lewis, the former “Australian of the Year” who came out with that pronouncement was TIM FLANNERY. Dork!

Reply to  Lewis Buckingham
January 13, 2022 7:43 am

Lampoon their hubris at every opportunity….only when media is concerned that they will be made fools of, will they write facts instead of clickbait….same for the “publish or perish” academia.

Laws of Nature
January 12, 2022 7:14 pm

Hmm.. I feel like a broken record when I iterate again, that

those authors need to either disprove R. McKitricks findings from last year (that attribution via finger printing of global climate models is seriously flawed) or accept that their conclusions are based on disproven maths and this are not worht the paper they are printed on.

Reply to  Laws of Nature
January 12, 2022 7:47 pm

This article claims that weather forecast models are now being used to show the strong relationship (attribution) between nasty fossil fuels and extreme weather. This is accomplished by running a weather forecast model multiple over such an event, each run using different concentrations of atmospheric CO2.


Are atmospheric CO2 concentrations really part of weather forecast models? If so, why?

Reply to  AndyHce
January 13, 2022 3:00 am

Yes they are. That’s why the output of nearly all models shows a more or less steady increase over time. According to “those who know” (\sarc) it’s the only way they can make it agree with “reality”.

January 12, 2022 7:27 pm

Anyone that thinks the “average” citizen doesn’t notice the AGW narrative flip flops is in denial.

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  markl
January 12, 2022 9:22 pm

Yes, but consider the intelligence of the “median” citizen, and then realize that 50% of all citizens are dumber than that.

That is the target audience for their outlandish propaganda!

I am not at optimistic as you are about the number of people that have noticed that the emperor has no clothes.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
January 12, 2022 10:11 pm

I think the mode is significantly higher, though. The median and mean are severely reduced by politicians and Climate Scientologists.

Reply to  Pillage Idiot
January 12, 2022 10:53 pm

Yet it amazes me how many degreed scientists, or Ph.D candidates with whom I interact who will only believe the settled science, and refuse to discuss any other ideas.

David Guy-Johnson
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
January 12, 2022 11:38 pm

It’s the dumb well educated they’ve got. The dumb, poor people are too busy trying to make ends meet to give a tinkers cuss about all this nonsense.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
January 13, 2022 1:06 pm

The number of politicians running away from previously supported high energy prices is telling. People vote their wallets.

Reply to  markl
January 13, 2022 9:27 am

Consider the “average” citizen from 1984 who bought in to “we have increased the chocolate ration to 15 grams”.

Or consider how the “average” citizen buys into all the flip flops by politicians and the like on a regular basis.

Dave Fair
Reply to  TonyG
January 13, 2022 1:12 pm

“We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us.” Cynicism, even among the believers, is obviously increasing (read and try to understand what the insiders are now saying). I don’t know how UK and EU citizens will react, but the U.S. 2022 and 2024 elections will tell the tale. It currently doesn’t look good for the Leftist CliSciFi bedwetters.

Mike Dubrasich
January 12, 2022 8:06 pm

Rain is good for the economy. More ag production, more hydro-power, more drinking water, more manufacturing water, more swimming pools and movie stars, more golf courses, more freshwater fish and oysters, more umbrella and galoshes sales, less perspiration, more flowers and trees, more honey bees, less cactuses, more frogs, bigger watermelons, more salamanders, more moss, taller grass, more green, less brown, fewer human sacrifices to the Rain God, more lawnmowers, more ducks, less desert, more forest, more laughing, less choking on dust, and on and on and on… 

Rain is a blessing. We’d be sad and blue without it.

Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
January 12, 2022 8:43 pm

There’s money in mud

Old Cocky
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
January 12, 2022 11:49 pm

More movie stars is probably an adverse outcome. Or is that just producers?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
January 13, 2022 3:04 am

“Rain is good for the economy.”

Yes! More rain please!

Funny, I haven’t heard very many people complaining about getting too much rain. Other than Griff.

January 12, 2022 8:32 pm

There’s a fallacy of a “climate normal” being close to the averages. They use climate proxies, long time series & computer models which don’t have the fine resolution so they smooth the natural weather variability & distort climate estimates. But when pointing this out they call us climate change deniers which is ironic when we are calling them deniers of change (natural variability).
The evidence is the cycles of solar, luna, planets, earthly cycles (eg. AMO, La Nina, El Nino, IOD), changes in magnetic poles, volcanic activity. Measuring from 1950 or more recent is not long enough to avoid bias vs natural. Why did it warm & cool by >0.6C over decades all the other times vs the current assumption it’s all because of GHG emissions?

Reply to  tygrus
January 13, 2022 2:15 am

Climatology loves its scary words, such as anomaly and rainfall deficit. “Normal” rainfall is very easy to exploit, as infrequent very rainy periods shift up the average, so that most actually-normal years have less than “Normal” rainfall.

Reply to  climanrecon
January 13, 2022 6:27 am

A truly normal year is actually very rare!

Dave Fair
Reply to  Ebor
January 13, 2022 1:15 pm

“Normal” is a range. Lie about what the range is and you can scare anybody that doesn’t check your numbers.

john barrett
January 12, 2022 8:37 pm

History repeats.
“I love a sunburnt country
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.” (Extract from ‘My Country’.)
No, not written in 2021, but 1908, by bush poet, Dorothea MacKellar.
MacKellar was brought up in Sydney but spent her school holidays at her father’s properties in Gunnedah, a rural town in northern NSW, during the Federation Drought. The Federation Drought (1895 to 1903) was the worst drought in Australia’s recorded history (Nation Museum of Australia).
History repeats, but some conveniently forget.

Reply to  john barrett
January 12, 2022 9:42 pm

My research uncovered some very interesting references including;

* The highest level flooding recorded around Maitland in NSW was well exceeded, according to local indigenous beliefs, many times in the time before white settlement and locals pointed to a not too distant past flood level some 70 feet above the highest recorded since 1788.

* Indigenous tribes people told white settlers in the Hunter Valley of NSW, the Hunter River flows out to sea at Newcastle Port, that they remember from tribal descriptions when that river was dry above the high water tidal mark for some years. Their ancestors joined with other local tribes to the higher ground where natural springs continued to flow.

January 12, 2022 8:41 pm

The reasoning is religious in nature. Climate Change causes whatever is happening, in the same way that for someone who is religious, the idea that God causes whatever happens is perfectly reasonable. The difference here is that those pushing the Climate Change angle are asserting that their belief is a rational belief based in science, it is not. It is a very religious belief. The danger in this “religion” over others is the lack of an omnipresent God. There is no moral basis for this religion, which lends it to considering that the ends justify the means, whatever those means may be. This leads to great suffering. Always.

Reply to  MarkH
January 12, 2022 8:55 pm

But it is a religious position that the ends DON’T justify the means, if the means is lying & resulting in human suffering. Under strict materialism, any means is fine if it results in stuff I like.

Dave Fair
Reply to  anthropic
January 13, 2022 1:17 pm

If your means consists of stuff I don’t like, you won’t like the results.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  MarkH
January 13, 2022 3:09 am

oh, many worship the green God

January 12, 2022 9:10 pm

There is only one way to put an end to this nonsense. I assume these studies were paid for with government grants. Someone in government needs to say look you can’t have it both ways, we are either going to be destroyed by drought or floods. If you can’t prove one is right and the other wrong then both need to return your grant money. If both are true or not wrong then they should even out and there is no problem. Both must return the grant money.

January 12, 2022 9:19 pm

Some people still cling to the misinformation that water(WV) vapor remains constant in spite of the fact that average global water vapor has been accurately measured since Jan 1988 and shows an increasing trend thru Nov, 2021 of 1.44%/decade. Total Precipitable Water (TPW) values are measured using satellite instrumentation and reported monthly by NASA/RSS at http://data.remss.com/vapor/monthly_1deg/tpw_v07r01_198801_202111.time_series.txt . These added to the reference value of 28.73 are graphed here. Water vapor has been increasing about twice as fast as possible as a result of just planet warming. The WV increase (mostly from irrigation) can account for all Global Warming attributed to humanity.

TPW thru Nov 2021.jpg
Reply to  Dan Pangburn
January 12, 2022 10:34 pm

Only about 4% of the total annual terrestrial evapotranspiration is from irrigated crop land; namely about 2,600 cubic kilometers of water/year from irrigation. The total annual evapotranspiration from all crop lands is about 7,600 cubic kilometers of water/year.

Permanent grazing land is actually a greater source of annual evapotranspiration; about 14,400 cubic kilometers of water/year. When this amount is added to the amount from all cropland their combined approximate total accounts for about 1/3 of all annual evapotranspiration occurring over land. As per Oki & Kanae’s (2006) “Global Hydrological Cylcles and World Water Resources”

Reply to  gringojay
January 13, 2022 12:43 pm

ALL of evapotranspiration from non-irrigated land is about what it always has been. The ADDITIONAL evapotranspiration plus evaporation from irrigated land (most is arid land flood irrigated with shallow and thus warm water) is a result of human activity. About 90% of the ongoing average global WV increase is from irrigation, 8.5% from cooling towers and 1.5% from everything else. See Sect 6 of https://watervaporandwarming.blogspot.com

Reply to  Dan Pangburn
January 13, 2022 8:59 am

As more homes get built, the amount of lawns increase. Most lawns get over watered.

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  MarkW
January 13, 2022 12:35 pm

Well if it rained more, “wasting” water wouldn’t be a problem, would it?

Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
January 13, 2022 12:56 pm

Water tables in many areas have been seriously declining. Humanity is heading towards a crisis in availability of fresh water.

Reply to  Dan Pangburn
January 18, 2022 10:36 pm

Well they need to stop wasting time and money on wind and solar, and projects to divert rivers, build dams, maybe resort to distillation. If people suck more water out of the ground for all the various uses, then the politicians shouldn’t be going around pretending it’s climate when it’s really lack of planning and not spending enough tax dollars on appropriate infrastructure.

January 12, 2022 9:36 pm

Australia – a land of droughts and flooding rains since long before British colonies were established from January, 1788.

Reply to  Dennis
January 13, 2022 2:22 am

Surely it was made much worse by the introduction of industrial agricultural practices 🙂

January 12, 2022 10:16 pm

Look! change! It must be co2!

January 12, 2022 10:37 pm

So, with La Nina it’s wet, El Nino it’s dry. Supposedly weather events, but that’s climate change, right?

Peta of Newark
January 12, 2022 10:49 pm

Quote:More rainy days and extreme rainfall likely will hurt global economies, according to new research from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.

And this little missive actually introduces itself with a Weasel Word.

Science Is Dead

another ian
Reply to  Peta of Newark
January 13, 2022 1:36 pm

Coming from PIK – –

Geoff Sherrington
January 12, 2022 11:12 pm

In a multifunctional universe, even a towel gets wet as it dries. Geoff S

Vincent Causey
January 12, 2022 11:43 pm

I thought slowing down the economy was supposed to be good for the planet?

January 13, 2022 12:15 am

More rainy days from climate change could dampen economic growth the ground: Study

Fixed that.

Climate believer
January 13, 2022 1:06 am

“This is about prosperity — and ultimately about people’s jobs,”

Since when have the anti-capitalist apparatchiks at the Potsdam institute for the terminally alarmist ever been concerned about people?

January 13, 2022 1:11 am

Climate change certainly causes too much rain in places like the UK, which is 6% wetter than 30 years ago and has more extreme rain events.

Climate change certainly causes extreme rain events as seen in Germany, around Vancouver and in China last year and makes such things as flooding as in NY after Ida and in Brazil worse. A warmer atmosphere holds more moisture.

Climate change certainly means that W coast of USA sees its rainfall in winter exceptional rain events paired with summer drought.

Climate believer
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 1:38 am


Tom Abbott
Reply to  Climate believer
January 13, 2022 3:11 am

Yes, Griff is definitely clueless. Or disengenuous. I haven’t figured out which one it is yet. Maybe both.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 18, 2022 10:50 pm

Climate Scientologists are good at believing 2 totally different ideas at the same time.

Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 2:34 am

Griff, they claim the UK is running out of water

That can’t be true, can it?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 3:10 am

“Climate change certainly causes too much rain in places like the UK”

Griff, you state that as if it were an established fact. You are wrong. Human-caused Global Warming/Climate Change has never been shown to exist so your assumptions are erroneous.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 13, 2022 9:04 am

The only skill griff has, is repeating the lies he’s been told to repeat.

YallaYPoora Kid
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 3:39 am

Griff has exceeded his use-by date. His comments don’t even raise scathing personal remarks or feisty rebukes anymore such is the dismissal of his baseless and nonsensical assertions.

We need a new troll who can at least appear that they are serious about claims that CO2 is a danger to the world.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  YallaYPoora Kid
January 13, 2022 8:17 am

Unfortunately, due to supply chain disruptions there is a shortage of climate trolls resulting in those we have being overworked in their mission of spewing climate disinformation and nonsense. This can also result in “Tired Troll Syndrome” (TTS), with folks like Griff just phoning it in. Sad.

Reply to  YallaYPoora Kid
January 13, 2022 9:04 am

Since he’s told the same lies at least 40 or 50 times in the last 12 months, he’s hardly worth the effort anymore.

Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 4:37 am

“Climate change certainly causes too much rain in places like the UK, which is 6% wetter than 30 years ago and has more extreme rain events.”

Climate Change is not a cause. Any changes in climate relate to differences in the ‘calculated’ average of weather events over a specified period of time. Such changes in climate have multiple causes. The changes, of whatever type or degree, are a result, not a cause.

Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 6:34 am

“Climate change certainly means that W coast of USA sees its rainfall in winter exceptional rain events paired with summer drought.”

Uh, you’re aware aren’t you that most of the US west coast has a mediterranean climate – right? You know, rain concentrated in winter, extensive drought in summer. Look it up.

Reply to  Ebor
January 13, 2022 9:05 am

griff only reacts to the headlines he reads in the Guardian.
If the Guardian didn’t print it, it didn’t happen.

Reply to  MarkW
January 13, 2022 9:35 am

Haha – clearly, that would explain why he/she/it is so misinformed

Dave Fair
Reply to  Ebor
January 13, 2022 1:25 pm

That’s She/He/IT as a practical matter.

Andy Wilkins
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 7:30 am

Watch out Griff! You’re contradicting your Bible, sorry, I mean the Graun. They’re telling us the UK is going to run out of water in 25 years. Can you tell us how a country getting 6% wetter is going to run out of water?

Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 9:03 am

No matter what the lie, griff will repeat it until his moral improves.

1) The error bars in rain fall measurements are too great to permit any confidence in a mere 6% increase over the last 30 years.
2) Even if it was true, 30 years is half the AMO cycle, so the odds are all you measured was AMO, not CO2.

3) Floods such as the one in Germany happen every 100 years or so, there are records of much greater floods occurring many times over the last 1000 years.
4) A warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture, it doesn’t always. Regardless, unless something cools down the warmer atmosphere, it will continue to hold that moisture. So no increase in rainfall.

5) In griff’s world, if anything changes, CO2 caused it. As every good alarmist knows, there were no changes in climate prior to CO2.

Reply to  MarkW
January 18, 2022 10:59 pm

You bring up a good point – climate should be measured over a longer time span than just 30 years – who picked that range anyway?

I think everyone can agree climate has changed drastically over scales of 100s of millions of years, of millions of years, of 100,000 yrs (ice ages) and 1000 years (Warm periods in Minoan, Roman and Medieval times), and then there’s AMO and others like it that oscillate over 60 or so years. Climate scientists should be using an appropriate scale, imho of at least 200 years, i.e., all the collected temperature and weather data we have.

Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 11:18 am

Climate change certainly means that W coast of USA sees its rainfall in winter exceptional rain events paired with summer drought.

So, climate change causes both excessive rain and drought in the same part of the United States during the year.

I had no idea.

King Coal
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 12:17 pm

Is griff actually an alarmist bot, or simply on the grant gravy train?
the UK weather is actually no different now than 50 years ago

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 12:42 pm

There’s no such thing as too much rain. Live it or live with it.

And by the way, carbon taxes and EV’s are not going to alter the rain. That’s prehistoric superstitious wild-eyed krazy thinking.

Mike Edwards
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 3:47 pm

Climate change certainly causes too much rain in places like the UK, which is 6% wetter than 30 years ago and has more extreme rain events.”

Oh, really? What data have you been looking at? The Hadley England & Wales monthly rainfall dataset goes from 1766 to the present. There has been virtually no change in yearly average rainfall amounts across that dataset. As for increasing extreme rain events, do they actually show up in, say, the more recent daily rainfall dataset for England & Wales? I thought not…

As usual, big claims based on nothing more than thin air.

As for that lame argument “a warmer atmosphere holds more moisture”, while it may be true, it does not mean that you will get more rain just because it is warmer. If that were true, then surely it would be wetter in the UK summer than in the UK winter, right? I wonder why it isn’t so? Ah, yes, weather is really a bit more complex than that…

Reply to  griff
January 18, 2022 10:48 pm

It certainly does… whatever it wants, it’s weather. UK has been getting sunnier these past few decades, locals are actually starting to smile and not be so dour. Sort of like their American and Australian cousins.

Enjoy the great weather while it lasts, these warm periods don’t last long. Hopefully our tech will be up to the task when the cold periods return, so that we can avoid the kind of civilization collapse that happens then, like in the Bronze Age Collapse, the Dark Ages and the Little Ice Age. Thankfully, each time agriculture was a little better than the downturn before, but I think the death toll was still about the same 30-50% of the population dead from starvation, pestilence, war and plague.

January 13, 2022 2:03 am

“ the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.”

Well, that’s what they call it.

They haven’t taken Edenhofer’s advice on the illusion of environmental policy as a means of wealth redistribution

January 13, 2022 2:05 am

The Drought Doomsday Industry in Australia is in terminal decline (but not with the MSM of course), the following rainfall at Melbourne was said to be “in decline”:

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Gerard Flood
January 13, 2022 3:42 am

So, … the ‘de-commissioning’ of base load power generating capacity to below-requirements levels is absolutely necessary under “climate abatement’ policy – regardless of the catastrophic impact on “industry”, but the weather’s impact on industry is so great that we must “change the climate” – by magic?

Reply to  Gerard Flood
January 13, 2022 5:46 pm

 we must “change the climate” – by magic?”
No one’s gonna change sh!t.

January 13, 2022 5:33 am

Only on Mondays and Wednesdays and leap years

Bruce Cobb
January 13, 2022 6:37 am

“This is about prosperity — and ultimately about people’s jobs”

Yes. It’s about the prosperity and jobs of the paid professional Climate Liars and the assorted cabal of cackling clucking Climate Caterwaulers.

Michael in Dublin
January 13, 2022 6:46 am

We have the same solution to both drought and more than expected rain: adaption. The cost of adapting is a small fraction of that spent on wishful attempts to engineer the climate of the 30 climate zones and sub zones. Instead of viewing various weather conditions as threats, we would do well to look at how we can use these to our benefit. If our ancestors were doing this two and three thousand years ago, with all the modern technology we should be able to become more efficient in adapting. Fools are alarmists but wise people adapt.

James Walter
January 13, 2022 6:59 am

They’re right, in reverse. We are entering a little ice age. Back in 1315 when the last little ice age started, they had so much rain they had the great famine of 1315. When the sun is at a grand minimum, aka little ice age, cosmic rays greatly increase rainfall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1315%E2%80%931317

Gary Pearse
January 13, 2022 7:16 am

“We know from previous work that flooding associated with extreme rainfall can damage infrastructure,”

They know from previous work not from common sense! And we know from previous work by climateering renewable energy blighters that economies are being devastated by man made-up climate fantasy.

January 13, 2022 8:24 am

Quote: For tens of millions of Americans, drought has become an ever-present natural disaster. – end’

Hogwash!!!! I find no back up in the writer’s assettion, none at ALL! I can say either “obviously, the writer has never been to a grocery store” or that “it’s made up of cobwebs, moonbeams and dust bunnies and a lot of wishful thinking”.

If anyone is going without food, (and after watching people lining up at food pantries), there is no validity in anything that particular twidget says. It is BALDERDASH and wishful thinking, nothing else. Period.

4E Douglas
January 13, 2022 8:55 am

KGW TV article on ”Too much rain!!” Just this summer it was :”It ain’t gonna rain no more!!”

January 13, 2022 11:43 am

Unfalsifiable, global warming is.

“Heads I win, tails you lose!”

January 13, 2022 12:38 pm

CO2 is like baseball! CO2 is to climate change like baseball is the foundation of Western Civilization. 

January 13, 2022 1:11 pm

The increased precipitation from human activity is calculated to be only about 0.08%. Sect 6 of https://watervaporandwarming.blogspot.com

Steve Z
January 13, 2022 2:23 pm

Climate change causes droughts in some areas, and floods in other areas.

El Nino causes droughts in some areas, and floods in other areas.

La Nina causes droughts in some areas, and floods in other areas (not the same areas as for El Nino).

Has anyone ever found a correlation between CO2 concentrations and sea surface temperatures in the tropical Pacific (which drive El Nino and La Nina)? If not, then we just need to adapt to the precipitation we get. Let’s build dams and reservoirs to catch water from wet years to be used during dry years.

History tells us that the Roman Empire built many aqueducts over 2,000 years ago to transport snowmelt from the Alps and Appian mountains to cities along the Mediterranean coast with drier climates. Some of those aqueducts are still there.

Why can’t we do as the Romans did?

michael hart
January 15, 2022 3:26 pm

If there is one thing more dismal than Economists, it is surely Economists who think they can also calculate climate at the same time.

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