Tesla: Nothing Says Customer Satisfaction Like 30Kg of Dynamite

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Everything was fine until after the first 1500km the error lights came on … €20,000 to replace the battery … no warrantee or anything.

The former Tesla owner also went to the trouble of putting an Elon Musk doll in the car before detonating the bomb.

Assuming its not some kind of crazy fake stunt, I’m guessing this particular customer won’t be upgrading to the new model Tesla, unless maybe Elon Musk has the balls to fly to Finland to deliver the new Tesla in person.

Update (EW): More background (h/t Harri Luuppala) – MTV (Finnish).

Update 2 (EW): According to reports they removed the battery first before blowing it up. My guess is they didn’t want to spray toxic lithium all over the landscape, or maybe they wanted to sell it for scrap. So environmentally responsible pyromaniacs… 🙂

Update 3 (EW): Behind the scenes video (In English – h/t Observer).

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December 26, 2021 2:04 pm

I’m glad to see that he put an Elon Musk Doll in the car before he blew it up, as the exercise would otherwise have been in vain.

MarkW
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
December 27, 2021 10:24 am

Maybe they should have put a Musk doll in the car they launched to Mars?

ATheoK
December 26, 2021 2:11 pm

Why so much dynamite?
Sixty six pounds of dynamite is massive overkill… A couple of sticks would’ve been plenty, three or four sticks if you wanted to obliterate the vehicle.

Which makes me curious about what was really blown up?
Sixty six pounds is more than enough to turn a Tesla into so much shrapnel.

Reply to  ATheoK
December 26, 2021 2:22 pm

“Why so much dynamite?”

You saw all the cameras, right? Kind of like when Mythbusters blew up a cement truck with 5000 lbs of ANFO.

Reply to  co2isnotevil
December 26, 2021 2:44 pm

I still think that episode was their most awesome!

Deano
Reply to  co2isnotevil
December 26, 2021 10:21 pm

Their best explosion ever!!

MarkW
Reply to  Deano
December 27, 2021 10:25 am

As Adam once said, the show isn’t over till something blows up.

Bruce Ranta
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 26, 2021 7:18 pm

As they say in the USA, ‘Go big or go home!’.

TonyG
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 28, 2021 9:08 am

Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.

jdgalt1
Reply to  ATheoK
December 26, 2021 2:40 pm

I suspect he also wanted to destroy the repair shop it was in. If so, what is otherwise laudable freedom of expression becomes a not-OK violent crime.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  jdgalt1
December 27, 2021 4:50 pm

Aha! A thought-crime! Wanting something. Off to the gulag with him, eh?

Harri Luuppala
Reply to  ATheoK
December 26, 2021 2:45 pm

Hello from Finland. This has been on major domestic media. He used a special demolition team to do the job. This team has done stunts for Duudsons and FDF.

In this Finnish media site is some background.

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Dave Fair
Reply to  ATheoK
December 26, 2021 2:51 pm

“Why so much dynamite?” Because they could; nobody makes a statement with a couple sticks of dynamite.

You’re actually wondering as to what was really blown up? Didn’t you watch the video? And there was enough leftover pieces to identify them as coming from a car. The explosion was designed to blow most of the car parts onto a rock face, not to make it into mincemeat.

DaveK
Reply to  Dave Fair
December 26, 2021 3:33 pm

And dynamite is pretty cheap… It’s not like you need to take out a second mortgage to buy a case or two of powder, even the high-strengths stuff. Of course you might need to go through an annoying background check, even if you have all the credentials beforehand.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  DaveK
December 26, 2021 3:54 pm

You need a powder monkey license. I had one in the 80s (in Australia). I wouldn’t have a clue about legal requirements these days.

Geoffrey Williams
Reply to  DaveK
December 26, 2021 4:19 pm

Clearly the dynamite was cheaper than the replacement batteries ! !

Geoffrey Williams
Reply to  ATheoK
December 26, 2021 4:16 pm

The owner was pissed off and wanted to make statement . .

Sara
Reply to  ATheoK
December 27, 2021 5:41 am

The disgruntled fellow used that much TNT because he wanted to get his gruntle back. Gotta make sure you do it right. 😛

valleyboy
Reply to  Sara
December 27, 2021 6:50 am

If your control knobs are discombobulated can you recombobulate them?

Sara
Reply to  valleyboy
December 27, 2021 9:32 am

Excellent question. I have very little experience with any kind of gruntling or combobulating.

Perhaps some Climate Expert at a Pennsylvania university could explain the various sorts of gruntling and combobulating methods to us? 🙂

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Reply to  Sara
December 28, 2021 11:45 am

Looks like Dynamite, not TNT, fired with detonating cord.

I worked summer jobs at the big explosives plant in Quebec starting at age 15 – it paid 3x other jobs – saving for university.

During WW2 it was the biggest explosives plant in the British Empire – 6000 men worked inside the fence, which was 4 miles long along the East side – the plant area was probably about 12 sq. miles.

Buildings were spaced far apart – so if one blew up it did not start a “daisy-chain” of exploding buildings. My dad ran half the plant during the war, and was responsible for 3000 men – he was 26 years old in 1939 at the outbreak of hostilities – he had zero fatalities under his management.

Years later when I was at University there was an explosion at the Nitrone building – I returned home and viewed what was left – essentially nothing – a building the size of a modern elementary school had vanished – only the concrete floor slab was left. The long grass around the building was flattened in a radial pattern, all strands pointing to a single point at the center of the floor slab. The two crews (it was shift change) and the entire building were “vaporized” – there was no visible debris on the site – not enough remained to bury in a match box.

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rah
Reply to  ATheoK
December 27, 2021 10:43 am

If you’ve got it, use it! In SF we called it the “P” for Plenty principle. In some cases too much can be as bad or worse than too little. But when you’ve got it and don’t need to conserve then why not have some fun?

We kinda pissed the Coast Guard off one time. They had an old WW II wooden Sub Chaser they wanted sunk. We used it as a tactical target. So one nice summer night fully armed we motored out in RBs from the national seashore of Cape Cod to where it was anchored. Used a bit too much TNT and left a patch of splintered wood as a navigation hazard. In retrospect and couple of little shaped charges would have been the way to go to sink it in one piece.

We had stayed in a kind of cabin that had wooden bunks built into it the previous night. I heard a commotion in the bunk below where Woody was. Next thing I know Woody was up running out the door and I heard the silenced Sten gun he was carrying discharging. We all went charging out the door to see what was going on.

Woody had checked out a noise at he heard over his head with a flashlight. There was a raccoon staring down at him. The coon took off with Woody hot on iits s heals popping off rounds with that Sten gun at it as it ran down the beach to get away. The thing was we had been in the water a lot that day and it was a hot night so after being soaked in salt water all day we were soaked in sweat that night. Woody had been laying on top of his sleeping bag naked, Woody was a fair skinned red head and the sight of him cussing and chasing that coon naked with his pale skin in the moon light with a sten gun is one I will never forget.

We made up for it later. There were a couple of old big radio telescopes and they wanted the dishes cut from the bases as the first stage of demolition. This time our calculations were exact and we cut them perfectly and dropped them down in one piece with C4 cutting charges.

Pat from kerbob
December 26, 2021 2:14 pm

Seems like a commercial for Finland

Probably should have forced them to recycle the toxic mess

David S
December 26, 2021 2:14 pm

Well um I guess he didn’t like the Tesla.

Kalsel3294(@kalsel3294)
December 26, 2021 2:23 pm

Is it possible to retrofit a Tesla to run on diesel? If Australia were wanting to have a nuclear powered submarine retrofitted to diesel propulsion, converting a Tesla should be a pushover. The alternative perhaps was to fit a rocket into the backside of the vehicle.

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niceguy
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 27, 2021 2:42 am

I still don’t know if legally speaking it’s still an electric car in future EU.

MarkW
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 27, 2021 10:28 am

Aren’t they banning home generators in many locations?

Thomas
Reply to  Kalsel3294
December 26, 2021 2:39 pm

In which direction would you point the rocket?

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Kalsel3294
December 26, 2021 3:42 pm

A Tesla Model S has four electric motors, each located near the drive axle joint at each wheel.

Tough to replace those with four mini-diesel engines. Otherwise, you might convert it into just a two-occupant vehicle, squeezing a single diesel engine into what formally was the back seat. Enjoy!

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 26, 2021 5:20 pm

It’s simple, you just need a diesel motor generator on a trailer and an extension cord. You can even give the trailer its own traction motors so it doesn’t slow you down and even combine it with a travel trailer for supporting a useful travel range…

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  co2isnotevil
December 27, 2021 9:04 am

” . . . diesel motor generator on a trailer and an extension cord.”

Well, that would not be just “retrofitting a Tesla” (the question asked by Kalsel3294 above), would it?

At least I don’t consider adding a towed trailer as a “retrofit”. 🙂

meab
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 26, 2021 6:12 pm

There are no four motor Teslas. The most motors in a Tesla car is three, in the Model S plaid. Some have two motors, some have one.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  meab
December 27, 2021 8:58 am

meab, thank you for correcting me . . . you are absolutely correct!

The Model S Plaid was the first Tesla car to use individual drive motors for each wheel, but this was only implemented on the rear wheels. The Plaid kept the previous design used on previous Tesla models of using a single electric motor to drive both front wheels.

Mea culpa.

Dennis
Reply to  Kalsel3294
December 26, 2021 6:26 pm

Another left leaning media deception, the RAN requirement was for a new design conventional diesel-electric powered submarine, the design basis was the new French nuclear powered submarine but not that submersible ship with diesel-electric in place of a nuclear reactor.

Now the change of direction, cancellation of the French Contract based on the price estimate almost double the original price, development running far behind schedule, staged contract therefore in breach and with communications between Australian and France expressing concern before the final decision was made to cancel in accordance with terms and conditions of that contract, and obtaining a nuclear submarine of UK or US design, and maybe a couple leased in between time. And the six RAN Collins Class submarines reconditioned and upgraded to serve for another decade or two.

This link is interesting even though the contract has been cancelled. Not reference to the Swedish Gotland Class submarine, that is the latest version of the customised earlier Swedish design that became the RAN Collins Class.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3470/australia-is-getting-the-baddest-diesel-electric-submarines-on-the-planet

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niceguy
Reply to  Dennis
December 27, 2021 3:20 am

It’s ridiculous that Australia is
1) buying nuclear at all;
2) NOW selecting nuclear, after asking the French to make a long range diesel electric.

The whole thing is preposterous!

MarkW
Reply to  niceguy
December 27, 2021 10:33 am

Why is it ridiculous for Australia to believe it might need nuclear powered submarines?
They selected the new model after the French failed to live up to the terms of the contract. what’s ridiculous about that?

PCman999
Reply to  niceguy
December 27, 2021 11:06 pm

Nuclear is the most environmentally friendly and economic solution, also gives the subs practically unlimited range.

LdB
Reply to  niceguy
December 28, 2021 3:35 am

It’s the best decision in a long time … you would have to explain what you feel is wrong.

Peter Fraser
Reply to  Dennis
December 27, 2021 11:13 am

The story goes that Kongsburg a hi tech Swedish marine company was commissioned by the U.S. Navy to develop new silent running propellors for their nuclear subs. The mission was completed successfully. The Swedes then sold the same technology to the Russians thus ensuring the balance of power.

rah
Reply to  Peter Fraser
December 27, 2021 12:24 pm

There is one heck of a lot more to making a boat quiet enough to be “a hole in the water” than the prop design which doesn’t matter that much anyway once in deep water where cavitation isn’t possible.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Peter Fraser
December 27, 2021 5:00 pm

Well, did the Swedes sell ball bearings to the Nazis to “ensure the balance of power?” I have a different term for it.

Cam_S
Reply to  Kalsel3294
December 26, 2021 8:18 pm

How about a Camaro LS V8?

A Tesla with a V8 LS Swap?!? (8 mins)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KmsVytiMDg

Roger
Reply to  Kalsel3294
December 27, 2021 12:47 am

If you want to get to a diesel vehicle, a Tesla is the wrong place to start from.

MLCross
Reply to  Kalsel3294
December 27, 2021 12:22 pm

Funny you should ask.
https://youtu.be/GCAWa3aHExE

Mark ingraham
December 26, 2021 2:34 pm

China ran out of RE and is clamping down on all the tesla stuff.

Since this blog doesn’t discuss the total social collapse due to peak oil, I’ll add it here. Aramco inventory is annihilated. Furthermore, when you see stats like “Germany is increasing coal consumption”, they don’t actually run a meter in coal plants and count power. It’s impossible because the electricity system is a network, any power flowing through it is an aggregate and can’t be further divided.

This is why we get illogical results like China growing 30twh of power last year but growing 70twh of wind thus resulting in all sources of power growing despite a total amount greater than the aggregate amount. They would have to multiply the heat content of coal by tonnage, and content falls over time so they overstate coal production (like everything else).

This is the kind of basic math and critical thinking this blog is supposed to do, if you take everything at face value it appears libs aren’t physically annihilated.

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MarkW
Reply to  Mark ingraham
December 27, 2021 10:38 am

Don’t bother responding to Ingraham, he’s been banned for refusing to behave himself.
However he keeps finding ways to sneak back in.
If you disagree with him, he’ll just hurl insults at you.

Charles Rotter(@jeeztheadmin)
Admin
Reply to  MarkW
December 27, 2021 5:31 pm

He’s not banned. Something….different.

gringojay
December 26, 2021 2:44 pm

Differences of opinion abound.

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Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  gringojay
December 26, 2021 2:48 pm

I prefer the “I’m flooring it, just go around me” one

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  gringojay
December 27, 2021 8:59 am

That’s funny.

But yeah, I never thought I’d ever own one, but now I do. It’s not a bad car at all.

And it’s not slow, ZZW. People just tend to drive them that way to get the most MPG.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  gringojay
December 27, 2021 5:09 pm

As the Romans used to say, “Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat.” (Whom the gods would destroy, are nuts about the Prius.)

Juan Slayton
December 26, 2021 3:04 pm

Hmm… Not sure, but if that tire was in as good shape as it looked, the tire manufacturer ought to get some good advertising out of this.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Juan Slayton
December 26, 2021 3:23 pm

It is a natural law that any destructive accident, especially an explosion, involving a wheeled vehicle MUST result in at least one wheel rolling away from it. Terry Pratchett identified this law.

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Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 27, 2021 9:01 am

Done in Jackie Stewart voice: “There’s a tyre booncing doon the rood!”

Gordon A. Dressler
December 26, 2021 3:21 pm

Just wondering of the boys called in a professional, chemical “spill” cleanup crew to capture and safely dispose of all the toxic lithium blasted into the area when the Tesla battery pack exploded along with the rest of the car?

Or then again, maybe folks in Finland don’t really care about the environment as much as I’ve been led to believe.

meab
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 26, 2021 6:06 pm

There are at least two different videos of this explosion. They took the battery and traction motors out.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  meab
December 26, 2021 9:02 pm

That is hardly in the spirit of the exercise.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  meab
December 27, 2021 9:12 am

meab, I’ll accept that.

If they took out the aged battery pack, then that largely defeats the claimed purpose of exploding the car because the asserted reason for doing such was that the too-expensive-to-replace battery pack was what upset the owner so much.

IMHO, it is shameful to explode the rest of the car (presumably not have any serious faults, less the traction motors) while letting the battery pack survive intact. But then again, I never claimed to follow Finnish logic.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 27, 2021 5:17 pm

Finnish? Logic? The owner was making a statement.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
December 28, 2021 8:47 am

jorgekafkazar,

Please state exactly what you think that statement was.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 29, 2021 2:44 pm

Until Mr. Kafkazar returns….

Answer:

  1. Without a stupidly expensive battery replacement, the car is a piece of *bleep*
  2. Here’s what I do with pieces of *bleep*

Cost of dynamite*: (est.) $7,000.00
Customer Satisfaction: PRICELESS. 😀

*Re: cost of event, per videos, volunteers made it possible.

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GO, FINNISH GUYS!

That was TERRIFIC!!!!

Man. Alive. This is one of THE BEST WUWT articles EVER!!

Speed
December 26, 2021 3:24 pm

It was a 2013 model Tesla. And Tessla batteries, just like the batteries in out phones, wear out and need to be replaced over time — often at surprisingly high cost.

This should not have been a surprise to the car owner. But it did get him or her, his or her five minutes of fame … even if it was for being a jerk.

DKR
Reply to  Speed
December 26, 2021 3:52 pm

Ya 20K is a surprisingly high cost.

BobM
Reply to  DKR
December 27, 2021 7:06 am

Yeah, that’s more than I paid for my 2006 Impala, which I just retired with 341,000 miles on it. Lots of highway driving, roughly 500 miles to a full tank. Loved that car.

Cam
Reply to  Speed
December 26, 2021 6:26 pm

From what I just read, he bought the car used, got about 1000 miles of driving out of it and then started getting the error messages and decided it was better to blow the car up than spend half again the value of the car to replace the batteries. Kind of dumb to buy an almost 9 year old electric car for just this reason.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  Speed
December 27, 2021 3:51 am

not sure here who is the bigger jerk!

Given the choice rather than regular self immolation of EVs, I’m happy to see plenty more being blown to smithereens instead

LdB
Reply to  Speed
December 28, 2021 3:37 am

So an 8 year old car requires a 20K repair bill and you don’t have an issue with that then I suggest you are an idiot or a troll.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Speed
December 29, 2021 2:55 pm

The key statistic is machine hours. At 1,500 km (or about 932 miles), the car crapped out. The battery wasn’t under warranty (likely, because it was not a mileage-based condition, but a years-old condition).

It is irrelevant whether or not the car owner reasonably should have known that it would cost him (out of his own pocket) about $22,000 to replace the battery. THAT COST WAS RIDICULOUSLY EXHORBITANT.

Further, EVEN IF, he had a good idea of what a battery would cost him, the car had less than 1,000 miles on it when it failed.

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Re: “being a jerk”

Au contraire. He did what MANY of us (not you nor Mr. Dressler, apparently, but, many….) would LOVE to do in his situation. Thus, many of us were laughing and smiling because of him (that was in itself a service to humanity 😊 ). And I say, “God, bless him.”

PaulH
December 26, 2021 3:49 pm

Well, not all car manufacturers are angels. A rear tire blew out on my (ICE) Kia, destroying the wheel speed sensor in the process. That sensor is an integral component of the anti-lock brakes, traction control, electronically controlled suspension, blind spot monitoring, forward collision avoidance system, power assisted steering, etc. The problem? A replacement sensor is on back-order, with no ETA. The car functions, but it’s like driving an old Chevy from the 1970s.

Modern vehicle technology is a minor miracle – when it works.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  PaulH
December 26, 2021 4:33 pm

I had serious issues with Volvo when my ‘throttle control computer’ failed, making a large paperweight out of the car. It cost $2,500 to replace.

In my days, they used a cable….

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 27, 2021 9:04 am

Perhaps you should drive a Volvo from “your days” instead?

Joel
Reply to  PaulH
December 27, 2021 4:50 am

Have you checked out a junkyard?

PaulH
Reply to  Joel
December 27, 2021 4:49 pm

If by junkyard you mean eBay, then yes. 😉

Boris
Reply to  PaulH
December 28, 2021 4:10 pm

Kia manufactures cheap CARS not parts for cars. These low cost cars are famous for having long lead times for replacement parts. Kia basically bids with Korean car parts manufactures for a production run of needed parts to complete so many cars of a certain model. Spare parts are not part of that deal.

A friend of mine had a Kia that had a front brake caliper come apart after just 8 months of driving. I found out about it 7 months after it happened when i asked him where his car was. It was sitting in Kia dealers yard waiting for a new caliper to come from Korea. i went on line and found a used one at a pick a part yard the next day. We had the car towed to my shop and installed the used caliper after checking it out with new jobber brake pads. The dealer was blowing a gasket and saying the warranty was going to be void on the car while we were loading it onto the flat bed to get it out of there. We basically told them their warranty was not worth the paper it was printed on. My friend had been paying for a car he could not drive for 7 months and Kia did not care. He sold the car and vowed to never buy another one.

December 26, 2021 3:52 pm

Pollute the environment for YouTube hits. Car would have been worth something as is.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Anti_griff
December 26, 2021 4:10 pm

And now the car is worth something as isn’t 🙂

Jeff Labute
Reply to  Anti_griff
December 26, 2021 6:19 pm

With his youtube video hitting more than 3.5 million views, he could be making more money than what all the used parts may have brought in.

There could be a lot of older Teslas in waiting for the same fate.

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BobM
Reply to  Anti_griff
December 27, 2021 7:08 am

Less pollution of the environment than building the car and battery in the first place.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Anti_griff
December 29, 2021 2:59 pm

What “pollution?” Did you watch both videos?

Alexy Scherbakoff
December 26, 2021 3:55 pm

I think they removed the battery first.

MarkW
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 27, 2021 10:43 am

While seeing the secondary flare from all that rapidly oxidizing Lithium would have been fun, the extra clean up costs would have been a bear.

Craig from Oz
December 26, 2021 4:11 pm

Well my heart warmed, and since I haven’t had The Jab I guess it must have been from the shameless act of de-Tesla.

another ian
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 26, 2021 9:40 pm

You haven’t been to the “Jabattoir”!

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 27, 2021 9:05 am

So are you staying in a concentration camp?

Geoffrey Williams
December 26, 2021 4:14 pm

2013 is an unlucky no. for Tesla !!

TonyL
December 26, 2021 4:53 pm

Wow!
This event has become an international sensation. The interest and attention has been incredible.

Usually, usually, companies will bend over backwards to avoid this kind of publicity.
Ooops, too late now.

{Such a pity.}

John the Econ
December 26, 2021 4:57 pm

As more of the Tesla fleet hits the decade mark, it will be interesting to see what happens to values as battery packs inevitably fail. With ICE cars now expected to last the better part of two decades, will the total cost of ownership of a EV stand up in the long run?

December 26, 2021 5:39 pm

That was a beautiful work of art, the dancing of the fuse fire in slo-mo then the thing just vanished in a fireball.

What happened to the fuel cell – did the lithium combust? What smell was in the air afterwards?

Janice Moore
Reply to  Phil Salmon
December 29, 2021 3:02 pm
  1. Agree totally!
  2. Watch the “making of” video (whisper: they removed the Li battery, first 🙂 )
Thorsthimble
December 26, 2021 6:10 pm

Actually, that was very cool to watch, if I’m being honest. When you get the people who really know what they’re doing, it’s incredibly impressive. That’s a lot of boom sausages, and not a single bit went in any direction they weren’t intending. And I can’t really blame him. I’d be pretty POed too in his shoes.

Raven
December 26, 2021 6:24 pm

€20,000 for the battery.
It’s a bit like the cost of ink cartridges for the printer.

Nick B.
Reply to  Raven
December 26, 2021 7:57 pm

No, it isn’t. If the price of the printer is $100, then the price of annual supplies is roughly $200.

Jeff Labute
Reply to  Raven
December 27, 2021 2:04 pm

Yeah, it is like the sale of LED lightbulbs. You pay more for the bulb and you’re told LEDs last for 50,000 hours or more. But it is always the AC to DC power supply that fails first. False advertising since no light company claims there is an unreliable power supply in the LED bulb.

Dennis
December 26, 2021 6:37 pm

Did you know that we can buy a very well built and appointed Jaguar EV for about A$150K and with a real on highway range between 350 and 400 Kilometres, a Tesla S rival reported to be far better build quality?

My Isuzu 4WD SUV new today costs around A$60K and range is about 1,000 Kilometres.

JLC of Perth
Reply to  Dennis
December 26, 2021 7:48 pm

I won’t be trading in my lovely Jaguar XJC for anything electric.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  JLC of Perth
December 27, 2021 3:54 am

My Jaguar has plenty of electrical problems as it is, I don’t need more!

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  pigs_in_space
December 27, 2021 10:39 am

Electrical problems have historically plagued Jaguars, according to Consumer Reports. Anyone now want to trust an EV built by Jaguar?

John Hultquist
December 26, 2021 7:37 pm

Claim is the car was a 2013.
Is there a direct replacement battery? Can a Tesla team fly one to you and install it?
I assume there are better batteries today but do they have the same size and shape?
There are questions — are there answers?

Dennis
Reply to  John Hultquist
December 26, 2021 8:02 pm

In Australia all EV must display a government issued blue sticker on the front and rear registration plates. LPG fuelled ICEV must display a red sticker. Petrol or Diesel fuelled ICEV are not required to display a sticker to alert road traffic authorities that a vehicle contains potentially hazardous material.

In the EV example exothermic reaction in Lithium ion battery packs resulting in an inferno that cannot easily be extinguished, requiring a substantial amount of cooling water before the fire can be extinguished and later potential for the battery pack to reignite later.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Dennis
December 27, 2021 9:09 am

You completely failed to answer the question.

dmanfred
Reply to  Dennis
December 27, 2021 12:07 pm

Is GM still warning their customers not to park their EVs in parking ramps? Incase they spontaneously combust and take out the whole garage?

MarkW
Reply to  John Hultquist
December 27, 2021 10:49 am

In the US, manufacturers are required to make spare parts available for a number of years after the car was manufactured. I don’t remember what this value is, but I’m pretty sure it longer than 10 years. Even if the manufacturer has stopped making a part, there are usually after market manufacturers who can supply a part, but usually at a mark-up.

The article states that this owner was upset that the battery was out of warranty. No mention was made of whether a replacement was available or what it would have cost.

Jtom
December 26, 2021 8:14 pm

I am curious to see what the resale market will look like for Teslas and other EVs. I suspect newer batteries, on average, could last for ten to twenty years, but many will fail far sooner. So, just who will be brave enough to buy, say, an eight year-old Tesla, and how much will they be willing to pay for it?

in the same fashion, suppose you have an eight year old Tesla with a failing battery. Do you drop ten thousand for a new battery to put into a car having eight year old technology? That’s going to be a tough call.

Finally, without a decent number of cheap, reliable used cars, what will those on the bottom rungs of the economy or in third-world countries do for vehicles? I see the resale values of old ICE vehicles soaring if most new vehicles are EVs.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Jtom
December 27, 2021 2:53 am

as of 2035 you won’t be able to buy an ICE car in Massachusetts- I keep asking if you buy it in another state, can you register it in MA- no answers so far

Derg
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 27, 2021 4:21 am

That will just raise the price of ice cars 😞

BobM
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 27, 2021 7:19 am

Never happen.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  BobM
December 27, 2021 7:23 am

The MA state net zero by ’50 law may help convert the state from being a one party state- nothing else has for several decades. Something like 95% of the state legislature is Dem.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  BobM
December 27, 2021 11:02 am

BobM,

I think you pretty much called it!

It will not happen until the State of Massachusetts finds a way to replace the loss of income from state taxes on at-the-pump gasoline sales. They don’t currently have a means to tax EVs for road use without raising taxes on electricity for all uses.

For this reason, the bureaucrats (not just those in MA) are working furiously—imagine that!—to come up with a “road use” tax based on a mandatory mileage tracking device that is to be forced into future EV builds. Who knows, maybe EV manufacturers are already surreptitiously building-in such capability?

The states dare not impose a “road use” tax as part of an EV’s initial sales cost because it would then be seen as a real disincentive for people to buy EVs . . . and the EPA just can’t have that!

Jtom
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 27, 2021 8:41 am

The surrounding states will benefit greatly. Federal law will prevent MA from banning ICE vehicles from federal roads and highways using interstate commerce laws, so there will still be gasoline stations. People in MA will buy their ICE car in a neighboring state, where they will register it. A rented P.O. box in that state, and putting the car in an LLC registered in the state, would even make it all legal. Nothing MA could do.

MarkW
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 27, 2021 10:57 am

I suspect the answer to whether you can register cars built in other states or not, will depend on who controls DC, when it the ban on new ICE cars happens.

If it’s the Dems, the answer will be no.
If it’s the Republicans, they might have enough backbone to apply the constitution and force MA to accept cars legally licensed elsewhere.

On the other hand, if they do ban ICE cars from being re-registered in the state, this will make it even more unlikely that anyone who lives outside of MA ever wanting to move to the state. (Not that this happens much anymore.)

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  MarkW
December 27, 2021 12:00 pm

actually, lots of very poor third world people move to MA- the state is no longer a county of Ireland :-}

MarkW
Reply to  Jtom
December 27, 2021 10:52 am

Reminds me of Obama’s Cash for Clunkers boondoggle.
Lots of older cars that were still functional were destroyed at great cost to the government.
No measurable difference in air quality was ever detected, and the price of used vehicles went up substantially for years.

Observer
December 26, 2021 10:08 pm

Linked below is another video which talks about the making of the video episode.

So, does anyone know techincal details about this stuff? The super slo-mo was at 50,000 frames/sec according to the linked video. In that slo-mo, you can see what I assume is det cord burning/exploding, and it seems to be traveling at about the right speed for det cord (7km/s or so).

You can also see they set off some blasting caps taped to the auto glass prior to the main blast, presumably to be sure that intact pieces of auto glass weren’t flying through the air.

What I’m wondering is where you see the det cord going past the dynamite twice but it doesn’t set off the main blast. I’m wondering if those runs of cord were just for show in the slo mo video.

In one point in tne video they appear to have some small pieces of cardboard between the cord and dynamite sticks…maybe to keep the cord from setting off the dynamite?

You can also see elsewhere that there are separate blasting caps stuck into each piece of dynamite so that’s obviously how they were fired.

Anyway, just curious if someone has the background to explain some of that…?

rah
Reply to  Observer
December 28, 2021 10:06 am

It looks to me like they were making triply sure that all the charges would go. Not only caps on each a the bottom but det cord wrapped around it also. The “P” for plenty principle on display again. It appears that there is also another electric cap in the top of each charge. Notice the wire running across the tops of the charges and the newspaper stuffed in there. So you have a cap on each end and det cord wrapped around the middle of each charge.

Not the way I would do it, but it worked and that’s all that counts.

Vuk
December 27, 2021 1:37 am

“The government has quietly backtracked on proposals to require every shop, office or factory in England to install at least one electric car charger if they have a large car park, prompting criticism by environmental campaigners.
However, the Department for Transport (DfT) has now revealed it will only require chargers be installed in new or refurbished commercial premises amid fears over the cost for businesses, according to a response to a consultation.”

Doug Huffman(@doughuffman)
December 27, 2021 4:00 am

What is it with squatting by the car? At first I thought Scotty Kilmer, but no.

Mickey Reno
December 27, 2021 5:28 am

Not bad as videos go. But I still prefer a good Wind Turbine fire, blades flying off and smoking collapse of the tower video.

Eric Vieira
December 27, 2021 5:37 am

At lunchtime on the 27th, the video had already almost 4 Mio. views. If it doubles to 8 Mio., it’ll make a substantial contribution for a new car … not a Tesla for sure …

Janice Moore
Reply to  Eric Vieira
December 29, 2021 3:29 pm

December 29th at about 3:30PM, PST, Views: 5,088,957.

Sara
December 27, 2021 5:38 am

Saw that on the news; haven’t had such a good laugh in a long, long time.

Merrily, we roll along, roll along, roll along! I’ll stick to bicycles, horses (and a curricle, thank you!) and carbon-based fuel-powered 4-wheeler vehicles for transportation.

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Mick Wenlock
December 27, 2021 6:08 am

If you go back to the original newspaper report you will find that

a) This tesla is over 8 years old – it was a 2012 model purchased originally in 2013.

b) The warranty for the batteries in Tesla expire after 8 years.

c) I am highly suspicious of the claim that a light came on after 1500 miles – does that mean that he only drove the Tesla for 1499 miles in the first 8 years of ownership?

d) It seems to me that any journalist who is actually a journalist might of asked this gentlement when HE bought the tesla because the story seems to to suggest he bought it used. IN which case he bought a lemon from someone who was dumping the vehicle before the battery warranty ran out.

MLCross
December 27, 2021 8:48 am

If you want see how difficult and infuriating it can be to be a Tesla fan, go to YouTube and search Rich Rebuilds. All the guy wanted to do was repair his own Tesla – he’s a fan of them – and Tesla customer support acted like he was doing something criminal. Wouldn’t even sell him parts.

Michael Nagy
December 27, 2021 8:52 am

What this article doesn’t tell you was that the car was 10 years old and out of warranty. He should have known the batter was reaching the end of its life and planned accordingly.

4E Douglas
December 27, 2021 10:21 am

Had a Swedish co-worker say that the Finns are the :”Rednecks of Scandinavia.”
Yup. 🤣

MarkW
Reply to  4E Douglas
December 27, 2021 11:04 am

Rednecks are my favorite kind of people, they can repair anything, and only when desperate use original parts.

Ngallendou Dieye
December 27, 2021 12:33 pm

To replace just a piece of plastic on a Tesla can cost as much as an entire late-model used car that would run for more than ten years.

jorgekafkazar
December 27, 2021 5:23 pm

Steve Lehto (Yes, a Finnish name) covered this here:

https://youtu.be/4e4yzQ0ewEU

Ken
December 29, 2021 11:17 am

It’s customary to overdo the explosives. Here is the you-tube link to the State of Oregon getting rid of a whale carcass on the beach in the 1970’s.

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