The Denigration Of The Department Of Defense By Climate Crisis Politics


Jim Steele

The video explains why the recent Department of Defense’s Climate Risk Analysis does nothing to improve the alerts and preparation for wildfires and extreme weather that has been provided by the military in the 1960s.

Instead of ordering the DOD to engage in valuable red team blue team exercises regards climate change impacts on wildfires, by ordering the Secretary of Defense to simply provide a summary of untested suggested threats of climate change , the DOD has been perverted into sock puppets that simply regurgitate the Biden Administration’s claims of an existential climate change crisis A transcript can be read at

https://perhapsallnatural.blogspot.com/2021/11/the-denigration-of-department-of.html

Jim Steele is Director emeritus of San Francisco State University’s Sierra Nevada Field Campus, authored Landscapes and Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism, and proud member of the CO2 Coalition.

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2hotel9
November 14, 2021 3:23 am

Subverting the US military has been a goal of the political left for decades. And here we are.

bill Johnston
Reply to  2hotel9
November 14, 2021 5:43 am

Unfortunately, this is also true of most other American institutions.

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  bill Johnston
November 14, 2021 6:45 am

However, the Philosophy Department at Columbia owns fewer tanks than DoD.

Oldseadog
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
November 14, 2021 9:47 am

I keep trying to give it a shot, Rio, and every time my computer blocks it.

So put us all out of our misery and tell us what it is all about.

2hotel9
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
November 14, 2021 10:38 am

But the IRS does, so does the Dept of Energy. They can borrow from DoD to supplement what they already have, too. .

guest
Reply to  2hotel9
November 14, 2021 5:44 am

Probably the only way to stop our futile foreign interventions is when the politicians realize how weak the military is and potential enlistees realize joining is a fool’s errand.

And no, I don’t thank them for their service.

MarkW
Reply to  guest
November 14, 2021 7:15 am

Yes it is futile to try and help other people, when the left in this country wants the enemies of freedom to win.
And your hatred of those who have been protecting your worthless life is duly noted.

guest
Reply to  MarkW
November 14, 2021 9:45 am

Tell us, who besides criminals, illegal aliens and the alphabet people have more freedom than 20 years ago?

How has the military protected us in the past 70 years?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  guest
November 14, 2021 11:58 am

I see you are completely clueless about the world. I hope you are just a youngster and inexperienced. I would be sad if you are an adult.

guest
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 14, 2021 12:14 pm

I would be sad if I foolishly volunteered.

Don
Reply to  guest
November 14, 2021 1:25 pm

Given your math starting point with the optional Korean War, they’ve all been optional wars since WW2; I gather that means the WW2 defeat of the fascists while in cahoots with Stalinist communists requiring FDR concentration camps for Japanese Americans meets with your approval as a necessary war and thus your implied thanks to those twelve million veterans, drafted or not, after enjoying the Great Depression’s freedoms, and after freely stealing Panama and Hawaii from the Indigenous natives fair and square. Enjoying his freedoms, Zuckerberg has quite the walled compound in Hawaii and Palo Alto after the fall of the Berlin Wall in the gay ’90s, which must not have pleased you. And no, I don’t need or require your thanks for optionally romping around Vietnam in ’68-’70 filling bloody body bags bare handed with GIs missing major body parts and dog tags. Some experiences are just priceless, like watching two-faced politicians and lawyers cover themselves over the fall of Saigon or Kabul while losing their minds over people losing their heads. Funny how both wars had ghost soldiers and REMFs on the payroll. Have a nice day and enjoy your fun, travel, and adventures in those slave made Nike Air Jordans, if your trust fund can afford those freedoms.

guest
Reply to  Don
November 14, 2021 2:02 pm

I could very easily have included WW2 (which even FDR’s admirers admit that he sought) as well as WW1 and the Spanish-American War.

However, criticizing US entry into the second World War also brings up a lot of other issues as well because most people get their views on that war from Hogans Heroes and The Hitler Channel.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Don
November 15, 2021 5:49 am

“requiring FDR concentration camps for Japanese Americans”

We want to be sure to mention that along with locking up Japanese, FDR also locked up Germans and Italians in the United States.

We need to mention that, otherwise some people might think locking up the Japanese was racist.

But it wasn’t racist, it was done out of fear, and it was done to more than one race.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 15, 2021 9:40 am

“DR also locked up Germans and Italians in the United States”

Say what? I presume you mean citizens of Germany and Italy in America?

ATheoK
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 15, 2021 12:00 pm

I suspect he refers to America and Canada hosting prisoner of war camps for soldiers captured in battle.

No-one rounded up innocent American German or Italian descendants and immigrants then imprisoned them during WWII.

Apparently, T Abbott believes FDR locked up Frank Sinatra during WWII.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  ATheoK
November 15, 2021 12:18 pm

Somewhere, I read that German prisoners at some camp on the soutwest- had it pretty easy. The American white soldiers treated those Germans better than they treated American black soldiers.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 16, 2021 5:10 am

Oklahoma hosted German prisoner of war camps. These were for actual German prisoners who had been captured on the battelfield in Europe.

The German prisoners were amazed and grateful at being treated like human beings in Oklahoma.

Some of those German prisoners ended up staying in the U.S. and becoming American citizens.

As far as “better than they treated American black soldiers”, I’m not sure what you are getting at.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 16, 2021 5:37 am

not sure where I read that the German soldiers were better treated than black soldiers- but if you have doubts about racism is the ’40s you may want to dig deeper- I’ve read just about everything written about WWII so I can’t recall- maybe it was Rise and Fall of the Third Reich—-

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ATheoK
November 16, 2021 5:01 am

I guess you haven’t had time to read the except above I just posted. Your sarcasm is inappropriate. But I have a thick hide, especially when I’m correct.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 16, 2021 4:45 am

https://www.businessinsider.com/5-surprises-about-american-internment-during-world-war-ii-2015-1

“The general history of America’s internment of its own citizens during World War II has focused on the incarceration of 120,000 Japanese, 62% of them American-born, who were forcibly evacuated from the Pacific coast after the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

But few people know that Executive Order 9066, signed by President Roosevelt, which permitted the roundup of Japanese and their American-born children, also paved the way for the arrest of Germans and Italians whom the FBI considered security risks and labeled as “enemy aliens.” Indeed, the day before Roosevelt signed the order FBI agents had arrested 264 Italians, 1,296 Germans, and 2,209 on the East and West Coast. The hunt for perceived enemies was on.”

end excerpt

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 16, 2021 5:29 am

But it’s not unreasonable to think all of those people were potential risks. After Pearl Harbor, it was better to make that assumption than not doing so- since if some of those “aliens” caused some damage- the political class would have been accused of incompetence. In hindsight, it looks bad- but not so at the time.

guest
Reply to  guest
November 15, 2021 8:09 am

Notice that no one has been able to say how the military has protected us over the past 70 years (really the last 130 years) or who actually has as much freedom today as they did even 20 years ago.

ATheoK
Reply to  guest
November 15, 2021 12:03 pm

Why waste time on the trollop?
Because you purposely misstate the obvious?
Because you demonstrate that you lack honor and courage?

You are your own worst enemy. Rail and rant away, wave your arms and gesticulate wildly, we do not care.

2hotel9
Reply to  guest
November 14, 2021 10:30 am

Neither I nor any other veteran I have ever known asked for your thanks, your welcome, though. And yes, you leftarded morons have f**ked up everything you have touched in America and in every other place on this planet. Good job, buddy.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  2hotel9
November 14, 2021 12:00 pm

That’s me, too. I don’t ask for any thanks. I served for myself and my family and to honor those who went before me and kept me free. When it came my turn, I went because they went before me.

2hotel9
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 15, 2021 4:08 am

As my grandfather said about it, “Want to thank me? Get off my back and your hands out of my pockets.”.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  2hotel9
November 15, 2021 5:52 am

I felt like me, and mine, owed those who went to war before me, so joining the military was my way of paying off that debt.

I’ve paid my debt. 🙂

Gunga Din
Reply to  guest
November 15, 2021 10:48 am

Sure, some enlisted as a, for lack of a better term, “Career Move”.
But “The Cause” they fought for is the same remains the same, Freedom as spelled out in The Declaration of Independence and The Bill of Rights.
I DO THANK all the veterans who for fought that, particularly those who were in the service during time of war.
It’s not their fault that Biden-types have lost sight of or seek to undermine “The Cause”.
A son and nephew of WW2 vets.

PS A friend of my Dad and our family’s was an Eye, Ear, Nose and Throat MD. I got my first glasses from him.
He survived The Bataan Death March.
I could list other examples of people I’ve know or met over the years that faced combat or supported those who did during time of war.

PPS If you don’t want to thank the politicians for the situations our vets were put in, OK, but thank the vets.

Scissor
Reply to  2hotel9
November 14, 2021 6:52 am

Biden will only accelerate the subversion, along with his perversions.

MarkW
November 14, 2021 7:12 am

The left has been convinced for decades that if only the west would stop defending themselves, then world peace would finally be at hand.

Then again, they have always defended peace as lack of opposition to their plans.

guest
Reply to  MarkW
November 14, 2021 9:50 am

The same politicians that impose socialism, the vax and climate change on us are suddenly to be believed when they say some third world cesspool is threatening our freedom?

2hotel9
Reply to  guest
November 14, 2021 10:32 am

Wow, you are quite the hate filled little leftard, screeching and crying and blaming everyone else for the sh*t you leftards have and are doing to the world.

guest
Reply to  2hotel9
November 14, 2021 11:21 am

How am I to blame for Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan, Somalia etc.?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  guest
November 14, 2021 12:04 pm

Who is to blame for Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan?

guest
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 14, 2021 12:21 pm

Apparently, anyone who questions the use of our military in the past 70 years has somehow been responsible for their lack of success.

The politicians who sent our military to those places and others are glad to evade responsibility.

2hotel9
Reply to  guest
November 15, 2021 3:31 am

Yes, the leftarded scumbags YOU vote for and support. Again, YOU are at fault.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  guest
November 15, 2021 6:00 am

I would say communism and radical Islam are to blame for the wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.

I would also say that many, many people learn the wrong lessons from these wars. Too much leftwing, anti-war propaganda clouds the thinking of many.

2hotel9
Reply to  guest
November 15, 2021 3:28 am

Leftards like you f**k up everything you touch and blame everyone else for what you do. It is all your fault. You vote in your fellow leftard scumbags and block real people from doing anything useful or intelligent. The louder you screech about everyone else being to blame for your obstructionism and mentally retarded stupidity only confirms you are at fault.

guest
Reply to  2hotel9
November 15, 2021 8:17 am

You have no idea how I have voted. I find it pitiful that you are defending an institution that not only has failed its purpose of defending the US, has consistently lied to the American people, consumes a huge proportion of the taxes you are so pissed off about and is a leading proponent of the wokeism including the climate change nonsense that you supposedly oppose.

I suppose I would be full of rage if I was conned into providing this “service”. You are certainly an example of it being easier to fool someone than convince them they have been fooled.

2hotel9
Reply to  guest
November 15, 2021 9:10 am

Yea, you are filled with hatred for America and Americans. We get it. You hate America so much feel free to get the f*ck out. Oh, yeah, you aren’t going to give up all that free sh*t provided by Americans to c*nts like you. And yes, I know exactly who you vote for. Lets be clear, climate changes, constantly, always has and always will. Humans are not causing it to change and can not stop it from changing. Your feelings are irrelevant.

guest
Reply to  2hotel9
November 15, 2021 12:15 pm

Does military service cause mental illness or does the military accept those with mental issues? You also have a reading comprehension problem but it might be your uncontrolled rage.

2hotel9
Reply to  guest
November 16, 2021 3:09 am

We get it, you are filled with hatred for America and Americans, simply put you hate everyone who is superior to you and that is a long list. And yes, we all read your hate spew. You just keep proving that leftards are mentally retarded and I command you to prove it again. Whatever sh*thole country you live in deserves you.

guest
Reply to  2hotel9
November 16, 2021 9:02 am

I hope the hotel referred to in your screen name has padded walls and room service serves soft foods.

I also hope all the refugees from these wars that we are resettling in the US because “they are in danger from helping us” are resettled where YOU live. We know they are not settled near where the Bushes, Clintons, Obama or Biden live. Maybe you will be so kind as to thank them for their service.

2hotel9
Reply to  guest
November 17, 2021 5:32 am

And there are those tears we were waiting for. Shall we call the waaambulance for you, leftard? All those things you list are what you leftarded America haters have done and are doing. Keep proving it, I command you to.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  guest
November 16, 2021 5:23 am

“You have no idea how I have voted. I find it pitiful that you are defending an institution that not only has failed its purpose of defending the US”

Wrong!

The U.S. military has been successful in the battles of Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan (among others). The enemy was defeated and brought under control, which was the job of the mlitary.

The U.S. military cannot prevent Leftwing Anti-war Appeasers from throwing all their hard work away, when the appeasers get the power to do so.

If you want to blame anyone for losing Vietnam, or Afghanistan (we haven’t quite lost Iraq as yet, thanks to Trump) then blame the leftwing, anti-war appeasers such as Joe Biden who has been involved in destroying all the military gains since Vietnam.

The U.S. military gets the job done. Leftwing appeaser politicians throw roadblocks all along the way, and when they eventually get the political power, they throw all that blood, sweat and tears away like it was nothing. Like Biden did in Afghanistan.

guest
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 16, 2021 8:55 am

Baloney. It was recognized that Vietnam was lost in 1968. Nixon‘s objective was to get over it as painlessly as possible with to minimize harm to pursuing detente with the Chinese and Soviets.

And the military knew early on that the Tonkin Gulf incident was bullshit!

After Vietnamization, the ARVN threw down their weapons when confronted. Just like Afghanistan.

The Joe Biden you (rightfully) despise voted for many of these wars you think were such a great idea.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/26/rand-paul/fact-checking-rand-paul-joe-biden-and-support-wars/#:~:text=%22Joe%20Biden%20voted%20for%20the%20Iraq%20War%2C%20which,He%20supported%20the%20war%20in%20Serbia%2C%20Syria%2C%20Libya.%22

Vlad the Impaler
November 14, 2021 9:27 am

Very soon, my oldest grandson will turn 18. For about the past year, he has been thinking about possible employment after he graduates. He told me that he was talking to various military recruiters.

Once the travesty of 03 November had played out, I talked with him any number of times, and made attempts to counsel him regarding his choice(s). This past Fall Semester, as a High School Senior, he was able to enroll at our local community college, taking the first in a series of Fire Fighter classes. According to him, he has found his calling.

When I asked him what influenced his decision (he rarely listens to me, as teens are wont to do), he said he looked at what has happened since 20 January, and the deterioration taking place in society. He can’t, and won’t, stand as a part of what is happening, but firefighting allows him a chance to help people who might otherwise be in jeopardy.

I’d like to think he made this decision completely on his own, and truly, I think he did.

Maybe there is reason to hope,

Vlad

guest
Reply to  Vlad the Impaler
November 14, 2021 9:51 am

Good for BOTH of you. And the rest of us. Don’t enable the politicians.

yirgach
Reply to  guest
November 14, 2021 10:06 am

A few hundred at the top, to plan and direct at every level; a few thousand to supervise and control (without a voice in policy) at every level; a few score thousand specialists (teachers, lawyers, journalists, scientists, artists, actors, athletes, and social workers) eager to serve or at least unwilling to pass up a job or to revolt; a million of the Pöbel, which sounds like ‘people’ and means ‘riffraff,’ to do what we would call the dirty work, ranging from murder, torture, robbery, and arson to the effort which probably employed more Germans in inhumanity than any other in Nazi history, the standing of ‘sentry’ in front of Jewish shops and offices in the boycott of April, 1933.”
Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933–45

See https://off-guardian.org/2021/11/12/letter-to-a-colluder-stop-enabling-tyranny/

2hotel9
Reply to  yirgach
November 14, 2021 10:34 am

Leftism is a cancer that destroys anywhere it flourishes.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  yirgach
November 14, 2021 12:08 pm

“A few hundred at the top, to plan and direct at every level;”

That sounds like the UN IPCC.

Just a few individuals are driving all this climate change lunacy. Michael Mann is right at the top of the pecking order.

yirgach
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 14, 2021 2:56 pm

Yes it does sound like a large bureaucratic organization engaging in total population control and world conquest, why does that sound so familiar today?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Vlad the Impaler
November 14, 2021 12:05 pm

People like your grandson are the hope of all of us.

More clear thinking please!

guest
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 14, 2021 1:06 pm

But what about protecting our freedoms from those who actually hate us for our freedoms? Someone must man (excuse me, person) the parapets of freedom’s fortress.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  guest
November 15, 2021 6:07 am

Someone will. This particular guy is going to man the firehoses, a job I consider equal to being in the military, as far as assisting the nation for the better is concerned.

My father is a retired fireman.

Arty
Reply to  Vlad the Impaler
November 15, 2021 5:42 am

Your grandson has figured out what a lot of us have. The only war I’m interested in is the one that’s going on right here.

Mike McMillan
November 14, 2021 4:47 pm

Austin is a political general, with no combat experience. He had cushy stateside assignments until they sent him to fight in Iraq — as a general in the command bunker. All those ribbons are for perfect attendance and for being a good buddy. His only ‘hero’ ribbon was the Silver Star, which they gave him for being a general in Iraq.

He’ll do whatever the boss (who probably isn’t Brandon) asks.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mike McMillan
November 15, 2021 6:17 am

Biden abruptly pulled most U.S. troops out of Iraq, after the war was won, and this led to the rise of the Islamic Caliphate and the Islamic Terror Army, and General Austin was in charge of this debacle.

Then Biden and Austin sit there and watch the Islamic Terror Army rampage all over the Middle East killing and displacing millions of people (to Europe), and they sat there and did nothing to stop it.

It was only stopped after Trump took office. Obama, Biden and Austin had the same military as Trump had availble to him. The only difference is Trump was willing to use the military to fix the problem, and Obama, Biden and Austin were not willing to fix the problem. Appeasers don’t fix military problems, they run away from them. And in the process, millions of people suffer.

guest
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 15, 2021 8:37 am

Obama, Biden and Austin are morons. But the fact is that Bush (also a moron) OK’d an agreement for large withdrawals to be completed by the end of 2011.

https://www.rferl.org/a/Iraq_US_Sign_Pact_On_TroopWithdrawal_Deadline/1349876.html

Obama initiated further withdrawals when a status of forces agreement could not be reached with the Iraqi government which would have subjected US forces to Iraqi laws. It seems we couldn’t trust the great democracy we boasted about to treat their liberators fairly.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  guest
November 16, 2021 5:34 am

Obama and Biden used that excuse to justify taking the troops out. Trump would not have been deterred by that. The Mad Mullahs of Iran want to run Iraq and that means getting the U.S. out, and Obama and Biden do the Mad Mullahs bidding.

The problems in Iraq all lead back to the Mad Mullahs trying to take control of Iraq. Obama and Biden have enabled the Mad Mullahs at every turn. Biden is still enabling the Mad Mullahs. He’s going to enable them right into a nuclear weapon.

We have a dangerous, delusional fool running the United States at the present time. Even if it’s not actually Joe Biden. Whoever it is , is a dangerous, delusional, fool.

guest
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 16, 2021 9:18 am

First, Trump was going to withdraw in 2021 anyway. I’m not sure what would have caused him not to keep that commitment.

Second, the military was largely responsible for conducting the withdrawal. I don’t know what they advised Biden. Did they lie to him? Did Biden or his handlers just hear what they wanted to hear? Remember how the military lied to Trump about withdrawing troops from Syria when it was not true?

If you are so worried about Iranian influence in Iraq, maybe overthrowing Saddam Hussein was not such a good idea.

I’m sure that once we strike Iran “to restore American credibility and demonstrate America is a reliable ally”, you’ll put on the Lee Greenwood record and cheer it on. And 5 years later bitch about all the Iranians we are resettling here.

Philo
November 14, 2021 4:55 pm

There are just TOO MANY dumb climate/climate change/climate whatever among this batch of sophonts.

It’s plain history. In 1992 Maurice Strong, a Canadian oil baron, tookcas his UN creds and got appointed as the first head of the United Nations Environmental Programme. It’s first job was to select and fund participants in the first United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change(UNFCC). Its brief was, primarily, to “combat “dangerous human interference with the climate system”.

Notice there was NO preamble about how the climate had been changing in the recent past is unnatural and dangerous ways.

The UN and the UNEP entity have spent the last 50 years building programs, paid for by many countries but much more heavily by the US, UK and a few other wealthier countries. There sole goal has not been climate change but to establish that huge funds must be developed to “help” poorer countries such as China, India, South Africa, and many further down the economic flagpole. Since most said countries are far down the list and likely recipients of the cash they always vote yes.

Note that, despite the ill-founded Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change, which started in 1988 and organized by the UNEP and the World Meteorological Organization to produce “scientific” reports for other member countries to use in planning climate policies.

Take it from there. It’s all backed up by the UN at the UN web sites and all its internal divisions, such as the IPCC.

Frank
November 15, 2021 5:27 am

Is “denigration” the word you meant to use or did autocorrect change it to that from “degradation”?

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