I watch the US’s ABC World News Tonight pretty much nightly. I look for references to “Climate Change” and normally hear one or more every night. However, this week, thanks to the blow up in Afghanistan, there were no utterances on two nights. Amazing! Unfortunately, there was a reference in a commercial one night. Sigh.
👍 👍 👍 👍 (I only have two thumbs. I guess that was a Democrat, “Vote twice.”)
atticman
August 27, 2021 6:16 am
It’s becoming very tiresome but what do you expect? A belief in witches leads to everything bad that happens being blamed on witchcraft… It’s been happening for hundreds of years – remember Salem?
PaulH
August 27, 2021 6:21 am
(Works as a drinking game as well-cr)
I don’t think my liver would survive that game. Can I blame that on climate change? 😉
and that, like the Sahara, is because climate change puts more moisture in the atmosphere. It has never been too warm to snow in those places all year, but it has been too dry.
Congratulations Griffy – your mental health has now passed a tipping point and you are spouting gibberish with not a grain of truth in it. Sorry dear but you should have got help when I first suggested it, you’ll need to be sectioned for your own safety and others before long.
Griff, by now this site should have taught you that for every “unusual” heat event cited, there is an equivalent “unusual” cold event.
This occurs throughout any and all spans of time you care to choose.
Weather-wise, no events are occurring more frequently than before, nor of any more intensity.
The only effect in play is what slow learners you climate porn addicts are.
But you know, it’s not to long ago, around 9k years, Sahara was green, really green ?
Will say, that tme, it was very rainy, but the African monsun moved southwards around 8k years ago. And no human CO2 was involved, imagine 😀
But the way extraropic low pressure sytems changed.
The Atacama Desert in Chile is the driest place in the world. There, there has been a great snowfall and an extensive layer of snow covers much of the landscape. At some points the thickness layer has reached 15 centimeters. Because of this snowfall, many roads have had to be cut. Historic snowfall in the driest place in the world, the Atacama Desert in Chile
Krishna, I have worked exploring for copper in the Atacama Desert and It is really dry. In the surrounding foothills it is not uncommon to walk several kilometers without seeing any plants, bugs, birds, etc. If there is a place drier you don’t want to be there.
Driest, not coldest… the desert, like the Sahara, has always been cold enough in winter for snow, but there hasn’t been the moisture in the atmosphere. It is the increase in atmospheric moisture which now produces snow and that is clearly down to climate change
Hi Griffo “It is the increase in atmospheric moisture which produced snow and that is clearly” nothing to do with climate change, but in the case of Atacama desert indeed it might be human’s doing:
“Despite modern views of Atacama Desert as fully devoid of vegetation, in pre-Columbian and Colonial times a large flatland area known as Pampa del Tamarugal was a woodland but demand for firewood associated with silver and saltpeter mining in the 18th and 19th centuries resulted in widespread deforestation”.-wikipedia
That’s odd, I thought it was CO2 that caused climate warming. Maybe I missed something? With all that moisture, you’d think it would be WARMER, not COLDER?
There is no “climate change” that has not occurred many times before, depending on conditions elsewhere. The Atacama desert has been stable for thousands of yrs. and it’s “climate” periods can be ~ 300 +/- years long. There is no evidence of human causation.
fretslider
August 27, 2021 6:49 am
Years ago, quite a few years ago, we used to play drink along a Dynasty.
Each time you saw a character with a drink in hand you had to down one. On reflection it’s just as well the programme was only 25 minutes or so, long.
If you were to do this with the mention of climate change and the BBC (or perhaps reading the Guardian in your Gazebo) you wouldn’t last 10 minutes.
Ah, NPR. I used to wake up to the local affiliate on the radio so that I could stretch a bit in the time it took them to utter several logical fallacies and/or facts that I knew to be completely bogus. Between Morning Sedition and Marxist Place, it was consistent with having a 10-minute snooze function.
As us old guys know, Beach Blanket Bingo was a beach party movie in the 60’s. It was one of several starring Frankie Avalon and Annette Funicello. Personally, I never thought Annette was very pretty, but I know most guys liked her big hooters.
Real big wave rider, Greg Noll, hated those movies with guys surfing those “dangerous” 3 foot waves while the girls on the beach looked on anxiously. He was one of the pioneers of big wave riding and was one of the personalities shown in the big wave movie “Riding Giants”, a must see for anyone who has any interest in waves. In an extraordinary twist, while refreshing myself on a few facts just now, I found out Noll died this past June.
I grew up in the 60’s and would argue that 97% of the guys cared not a whit about big wave rider Greg Noll, and much preferred watching Annette Funicello and her big hooters bounce around in a beach party movie with Frankie Avalon or whomever the hell else was there to get Annette into a bikini.
I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s.
I remember Annette long before she developed physically. Frankly, every guy I knew was just as smitten from her earliest appearances in the Mouseketeers.
M-I-C, K-E-Y, and not that loser manniacal.
Annette outgrowing the Disney Club was disappointing to us who were a little younger.
Nor did Annette bounce around much in any of the beach movies. Wild gyrations and bouncing were left to the other ladies.
e.g. Teri Garr was often one of the uncredited young ladies dancing in the beach films, both with Annette and with Presley.
Most of America lived far from decent surfing beaches. I’ve no clue who Noll was or what parts he played.
None of us where I grew up cared about surfing. Only kids that fell for the image of a guy with a surfboard surrounded by ladies fell for the fantasy.
In my neighborhood, they mostly fell for the image sold by Hollywood of a guy with a guitar surrounded by ladies. Early in the 60s, it was folk guitars; by the late fifties it was electric guitars.
I still play the guitar, though it was never a lady magnet.
Danley Wolfe
August 27, 2021 7:01 am
In the early ’60s growing up in the US we had a TV quiz show called “Truth or Consequences” with MC / moderator Bob Barker. We need to revive it …. “Climate Truth or Consequences.” The next spinoff would be climate modeling “truth or consequences.” And then we can have the next series “Biden Truth or Consequences….” except the answer to that is obvious.
I’m continually surprised by the fact that no-one really does a fact check site solely for political speeches and statements either in the US or UK (apart from 1 or 2 of the most memorable). On the other hand, it would be a lot of work just to find out it was all lies and misinformation!
Groundfrost in Germany in Erz Mountains – East Germany,
Snowstorm in the Alps down to 2000m, frost and snow on Zugspitze- all climate change, but not warming 😀 just rthe oppsite 😀
Didn’t we have “drougts” the last years – so, in your eyes where is any trend ?
Rainy summer hasn’t been predicted, but another year of drought – show me the trend, which ever 😀 😀
What about the cold records set all over the Northern hemisphere last winter. You have either a very short memory or a selective one. If its short it’s because your stupid, if it’s selective it’s because your a liar. Personally I think you lie because your stupid.
Delusional alarmist. Touts every individual fire, every storm, every hot day, every rainstorm, every giffiepoo super selective bit of weather, arson and every absurd model as signs of a burning Earth.
No trends needed, just giffie’s run-at-the-whatever-vent fallacious sophistry pretending that paid alarmism is kinda sorta almost real data.
H.R.
August 27, 2021 7:25 am
No, it is not a fun drinking game, CR.
It would be a guaranteed Trip-to-the-hospital-due-to-alcohol-poisoning game.
– Pro tip 1: Be sure to have about 30 shot glasses lined up and filled prior to starting. There will probably not be enough time to refill a shot glass between mentions of Climate Change!
– Pro tip 2: Practice downing shots with either hand. You can reach for the next shot with the empty hand while downing a shot with the other hand. Left, right, left, right…
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Pro tip 3: Call for the ambulance about 20 minutes prior to turning on your propaganda outlet of choice, aka the ‘news’. You may not be conscious enough to call after the ‘news’ has been on for 15 minutes.
“Be sure to have about 30 shot glasses lined up and filled prior to starting.”
What are shot glasses? The drinking games I almost remember, handed around bottles. If the previous drinker managed to have the bottle pried from their fingers.
Games were short. Quite a few guys were moved to the shower in the bathroom for the inevitable purging cleansing.
No deaths, no poisonings. Chugging the bottle usually got the drinker kicked from the game. We weren’t rich enough to buy drinks for real alcoholics or selfish idiots. Especially, at night when it was impossible to buy another bottle.
Nowadays, if someone tries to chug my Wild Turkey, Cenizo Mescal, various 100% agave blanco tequilas, tawny ports, Pinot Noirs, freezer kept Vodka, Laird whiskies, St. George’s or small batch Rye or similar spirits, I’ll still take away the bottle then give them a couple of bucks for convenience store plastic bottle formaldehyde.
I’ll even drive them to the nearest convenience store. I won’t wait, but that’s a story for another day.
I just don’t have enough to waste…
TonyL
August 27, 2021 7:28 am
“Climate Change” has to be the free center square on the Bingo card.
Let’s fill it out, I will start with:
Polar Bears.
Last Chance
Code Red for Humanity
10 Years Left
Human Caused
I keep waiting for someone to make a Bingo square using numbers, like the real Bingo squares:
e.g., 97%, Pseudo number of faux papers supporting CAGW,
0.0013°C from ocean heating per decade,
0.017°C alleged Paris temperature reductions,
25°C, giffie’s and silly’s temperature panic levels,
Several million degrees, Gore’s Earth’s underground temperature,
50,000 to where polar bear population has allegedly declined,
5,000 – 8,000, the alleged population of polar bears before their decline,
<1.8°C, the alleged CO₂ temperature sensitivity,
0.000415, ratio of CO₂ molecules per 1,000,000 molecules of atmosphere,
A gazillion degrees, the temperature each molecule of CO₂ must reach to heat 999,585 molecules of atmosphere plus surface and ocean molecules.
84%, the ratio of arson fires to natural fire causes,
560ppm, CO₂ doubling level from the alleged 1800s 280ppm,
830ppm, CO₂ doubling from today’s 415ppm. A level likely unattainable by humans burning all fossil fuels.
4%, the estimated relative percentage amount of CO₂ emitted by humans in the atmosphere,
25% actual previously installed wind turbine performance levels,
30% alleged modern wind turbine performance levels,
30% electricity losses converting renewable DC current to AC current,
50%, losses incurred by pumped water generation storage,
30%-50%, losses incurred by electric vehicles providing heat, cooling, hill climbing,
<2000, charges EV batteries survive before declining substantially,
1 in 15,000, possible chances that lithium batteries will suffer catastrophic destruction,
2012, 2014, 2017, 2019, Predictions that Arctic ice will reach zero,
Zero, frequent alarmist claim for Arctic ice levels,
3.8mm boosted adjusted level of SLR rise,
1.8mm, actual SLR rise level,
0.0, actual SLR acceleration level
The list goes on, thousands of papers and many gesticulating spitting alarmists making absurd claims and predictions.
Coeur de Lion
August 27, 2021 8:22 am
I had a bit of mental instability just now. Someone said that Indian monsoons were made more erratic by climate change. Wait! Wait a mo! The erratics ARE the climate change. So how could climate change cause itself? I felt my mind slipping over the brink into a sort of despair or depression. Then I came to! It’s GLOBAL WARMING that causes the climate change that causes erratics! Meanwhile Indian harvests break records every year. Due to global warming inter alia. Let’s give up climate change.
Utter bollocks. Why is it that you must tell such bald faced lies giffie?
You should crawl up to your bathroom and wash your mouth out immediate. Use Phisohex, a bactericide.
India:
Solar isn’t even listed by itself.
Michael in Dublin
August 27, 2021 8:51 am
I would like to see Josh and a few other game designers that frequent this site design a snakes and ladders game to discredit alarmism and promote adaption. Snakes take the player down with a lesson on some alarmist nonsense and ladders take them up with sensible actions based on real science. This would be a great way to begin teaching young children.
fires and new record temperatures in heatwaves across the Med: climate change. Extreme rain and floods in Germany and China: climate change… heatwave, drought, record temps and fires in Canada/USA – climate change
Natural variability, nothing else. That’s why there is snow in late August in Chile, in Germany, frost in Germany – that you didn’t mention, why ? Not your narrative ? 😀
Record harvest in India despite “horrible” monsun 😀
There is a difference between the events, isn’t there?
Meteorological bodies have referred to the rainstorm in China – which saw a year’s worth of rainfall in three days – as a one-in-1,000-year weather event. The rainfall broke hourly and daily records of the 70 years of collected data.
The heavy rainfall in the south of North Rhine-Westphalia and north of Rhineland-Palatinate in Germany produced accumulations which averaged 100 to 150 mm (3.9 to 5.9 in) in 24 hours, equivalent to more than a month’s worth of rain. In Reifferscheid, 207 mm (8.1 in) fell within a nine-hour period while Cologne observed 154 mm (6.1 in) in 24 hours. Some of the affected regions may not have seen rainfall of this magnitude in the last 1,000 years.
The searing heat that scorched western Canada and the US at the end of June was “virtually impossible” without climate change, say scientists. In their study, the team of researchers says that the deadly heatwave was a one-in-a-1,000-year event.
The scale of the recent events and the spate of such events in recent decades clearly show they are NOT variability, but a disturbing trend.
You just don’t demonstrate the capacity for scientific reasoning or basic statistical analysis.
Improbable events happen all the time. Considering the many possibilities and places, one should expect numerous 1 in 1000 year events to happen every day.
Major flood events result from the interaction of atmospheric and hydrological processes. Prior to major flooding, the catchment area experienced prolonged wet conditions and saturated soils. The large amount of precipitation and the saturated soil in May 2013 were the direct results of the atmospheric conditions that prevailed during this period. May 2013was characterized by a dipole-like structure in the sea level pressure (SLP) field, characterized by an anticyclonic circulation over the central Atlantic Ocean and a cyclonic circulation over the central part of Europe and the North Sea (Fig. 2c). Moreover, the second half of May and the first days of June were characterized at the 500-mb level by an atmospheric blocking circulation that persisted for more than 16 days. This system featured a cyclonic circulation over the Alpine region and Germany, an anticyclonic circulation over the northern part of the Scandinavian Peninsula and eastern Europe, and a cyclonic circulation over Siberia. The cyclonic circulation over the Alpine region and Germany, which is typical for spring and summer floods over central Europe and is known as “Zugstrasse Vb” *) (Mudelsee et al. 2004), advected a lot of moisture from the Mediterranean Sea toward the Alps. (My emphasis)
The results of research show a high relevance for the occurrence of floods due to Vb-tracks for Central Europe. Low-pressure areas tracking Vb have the potential to create critical floods because of their unusually high amount of precipitation. This knowledge is used to generate hydrographs, which represent the peak processing of the flood in the entire catchment. Using a new catalogue of Vb-tracks, it can be shown that between the years 1959 and 2015 Vb-tracks have been responsible for at least 30% of all observed flood events during the period April to October. In the summer months, every second Vb-track induces a flood. Furthermore, it is clear that in around 60% of all observed cases Vb-tracks are sequential and at least one other low-pressure area follows on this track within a month.
While this summer’s weather in western Canada has been hotter and drier than normal, the climate statistics for a number of areas that have experienced higher than normal wildfire activity don’t support your “team of researchers”. Merritt BC has been surrounded by wildfires and is not far away from the village of Lytton that was razed by a deliberately set fire. Please check out the 20 year temperature/precipitation stats from the link below.
With the exception of a few ten-thousandths of a percent of CO2 increase, how exactly toy does the current western U.S. drought differ from the decade long drought and subsequent dust bowl of the 1930s?
“Meteorological bodies have referred to the rainstorm in China – which saw a year’s worth of rainfall in three days – as a one-in-1,000-year weather event. The rainfall broke hourly and daily records of the 70 years of collected data.”
Nope. Wrong, again! That was the published accounts of news sources. Propagandized news sources that couldn’t be bothered to check records or the history behind specious claims.
That a new city in China only recently started record keeping utterly fails to support absurd statistics, especially when neighboring towns have records dating back hundreds of years and have recorded similar instances.
“The heavy rainfall in the south of North Rhine-Westphalia and north of Rhineland-Palatinate in Germany produced accumulations which averaged 100 to 150 mm (3.9 to 5.9 in) in 24 hours, equivalent to more than a month’s worth of rain. In Reifferscheid, 207 mm (8.1 in) fell within a nine-hour period while Cologne observed 154 mm (6.1 in) in 24 hours. Some of the affected regions may not have seen rainfall of this magnitude in the last 1,000 years.”
Utter BS. There are woodcut prints of worse floods in these areas in the last couple of centuries.
“The searing heat that scorched western Canada and the US at the end of June was “virtually impossible” without climate change, say scientists. In their study, the team of researchers says that the deadly heatwave was a one-in-a-1,000-year event.”
Again, horse piles!
That wasn’t “searing heat”. Nor have those events never happened before or even never happened recently.. One day barely set a new high temperature for that location!
At this point, giffiepoo.
You have made extraordinary claims which require evidence.
Provide evidence for every claim you’ve made. Evidence that comes from long term unadjusted or smudged databases, not specious claims from biased sources.
Griffy, in order to have a rational conversation, both parties should be rational. You have shown a remarkable lack of rationality over your many delusional posts so I lost all hope some time ago of having a rational conversation with you. As to ‘first grade name calling’, I hardly think so, dear – I always use your name, albeit with a ‘y’ on the end as a friendly gesture. You really do have severe problems, don’t you, dear?
I see griff is still trying to push that claim that anything differs from last year is proof of global warming.
Who cares how often it occurred in the past, because this time it’s CO2 whut caused it.
The sacred models have spoken.
Hey griff, does lightning strike twice in the same spot? Extreme weather events happen every year in different parts of the globe. Always has, always will.
Climate change, the latest propaganda iteration of global warming is apparently caused by extensive arson around the Mediterranean.
There you go again, claiming weather events that have repeatedly occurred in recorded history are alleged climate change.
Falsified again, giffie excrement.
Peta of Newark
August 27, 2021 9:31 am
Am thinking along the lines of it being the ‘other way round’
Along the lines of the much vaunted Polluter Pays principle – when said and done that what all this Climate Science is – pollution.
Media presenters would then be under an obligation NOT to mention CC, unless it was demonstrably provable that it did have a bearing on what they were talking about.
If it ‘just slipped out’, they personally would be required to compensate the viewers/readers who spotted it, recorded it or grabbed the screenshot..
Mmmm, yes, I like that. That one’s got legs, lets see it run.
Late thought:
As it is actually Real (what is called) Pollution in the form of NOx, SOx, Soot/Smoke, Farmland/City/Cement/Iron works, Traffic and Quarrying Dust that is causing the observed Global Greening – is it possible that the ‘pollution’ I’m referring to here has any, so far, unknown benefits?
It is such a big & magical world, plus, there is certainly ‘something‘ out there with an awesome & wicked sense of humour, I would not be surprised.
More research is called 4 metinks, watch this space
😀
AGW is Not Science
August 27, 2021 10:21 am
The trouble with that game is you could never find enough money to make the payouts to the “winners.” [Unless maybe you funded it through government “grants.” (/sarc)]
There is legitimate reasoning for this: balancing radiation risks between Galactic cosmic rays (reduced during solar maximum) and solar radiation from what would be a weak sunspot cycle.
I don’t think that is correct. But I am pretty sure that they will be flying away from the Sun, towards Mars, so they’ll be traveling in the same direction as the radiation, so it won’t hit them as hard.
They’ll feel a little tingle on their butts, then?
bluecat57
August 27, 2021 11:08 am
More fun to do that as a drinking game. Heck, it’s 5 o’clock somewhere.
Joel O'Bryan
August 27, 2021 11:17 am
We can expect US National Climate Charlatans to blame Climate Change on the strengthening of Tropical Storm Ida, headed for Louisiana on Sunday landfall, to possibly a Major Cat 3 just before landfall.
My Ap/Kp Geomagnetic – Atlantic Basin Rapid Intensification (RI) hypothesis is in full play on Ida this weekend.
Yesterday, on the Sun, Active Region 12859 (2859) let loose a C3.0 Xray flare and simultaneously launched a full-halo CME towards Earth. That CME and the solar wind distrubances it brings will begin hitting Earth, and buffeting the geomagneticenvironment starting Saturday afternoon-evening and into the Sunday morning. From this CME arrival and geomagnetic disturbance, we expect significant jumps of the Kp and Ap indices to cocur at that time.
Accordingly, my Ap/Kp Geomagnetic – Atlantic Basin RI hypothesis strongly predicts that Ida will then simultaneously undergo a near- to full-on RI event just prior to landfall Sunday afternoon somewhere along the northern Gulf Coast.
Bad Juju for the people there.
And predictably, the Climate Charlatans and Quacks like Mikey Mann and Kerry Emanuel of MIT will undoubtedly blame the nature of this tropical cyclone intensification of the manufactured climate scam.
Attached is the SDO image at 13.1 nm (EUV) of AR 2858 as it flares and launches the CME on 8/26/2021 at 1805:32 GMT.
The SOHO Lasco C3 image of the CME leaving the sun is attached. The faint Halo CME is seen on the left side of the disc image from 08/26/2021 at 2118 GMT.
This is NOT a major CME by any means. But still enough that it will almost certainly produce a minor-midscale (station Kp’s > 4, and Ap > 20, but probably 40 or more) geomagnetic storm starting Saturday afternoon going to Sunday morning.
You can “watch” a 4 day archive animated GIF of the Lasco C2 movie here:
Note: there was more impressive CME on 08/24/21 at 0614 GMT from a solar disc western limb filament eruption (not AR associated) that led to a limb darkening event on the SDO EUV imagers. This CME did not hit Earth directly but affecting the solar wind enough to elevate the current Kp stations readings today (27 August).
Our tax dollars at work. Bellingham Washington is one of the extreme lefty nut places now.
Mike Maguire
August 27, 2021 1:58 pm
Climate change(from global warming) has been defined so that it’s responsible for everything bad.
It causes great harm to good creatures and things……. humans, polar bears, butterflies, honey bees, crops, tree frogs, beer…normal weather…..etc.
But at the same time, it provides the optimal environment for all bad creatures and things to multiply with massive abundance…….ticks, mosquitoes, flies, roaches, weeds, virus’s, extreme weather.
Amazing. Same conditions (same climate/weather) for ALL things but somehow, increasing CO2 (the building block of all life) kills off all good things, while acting like a beneficial gas, to provide optimal conditions for all bad things, pathogens and pests.
Applying this irrefutable law of climate change, that was discovered by the United Nations in the late 1980’s, which caused them to create the IPCC, to spread the knowledge of it, we should assume that The Little Ice age, and the previous glacial period, that was even colder…… should have greatly helped the cold loving good life and killed off the heat loving bad life.
One would have thought that it was THEN that humans and life would have seen explosive development and flourished with all that pesky, harmful life virtually eliminated (-:
Trying to make this new law of life/death resulting from human caused climate change fit in with the reality …….we also need to redefine photosynthesis.
CO2 = pollution
Sun + water + minerals + CO2 POLLUTION = O2 +Food/Sugars DYING PLANETin
To interpret all the satellite images and authentic measurements of our planet using empirical data/observations so that they support this new law means………our planet is facing Death by Greening!
farm worker froze to death? Obviously terrible climate change caused by CO2 trapping the heat somewhere else and not letting it through to where it was needed!
Dave-E
August 28, 2021 10:40 am
Not a good party game because all the players would be roaring drunk within minutes.
I watch the US’s ABC World News Tonight pretty much nightly. I look for references to “Climate Change” and normally hear one or more every night. However, this week, thanks to the blow up in Afghanistan, there were no utterances on two nights. Amazing! Unfortunately, there was a reference in a commercial one night. Sigh.
I’m kind of surprised that haven’t tried to link increased sky diving deaths to climate change.
Global Warming ™ causes the air to get hotter. Hotter air is less dense. Parachutes are less effective in less dense air.
See, it’s not difficult. It’s also why planes keep falling out of the sky. Ask Malaysia Airlines…
Do the victims arrive boiled or baked?
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/climate-change-global-warming-skepticism-houston-16410884.php
It’s more fun to make up a bingo card…
That “Loses train of thought” down in the lower RH corner might as well be a free spot, too.
That’s a permanently derailed train.
Challenge accepted…
Excellent, Mumbles! First rate.
👍 👍 👍 👍 (I only have two thumbs. I guess that was a Democrat, “Vote twice.”)
It’s becoming very tiresome but what do you expect? A belief in witches leads to everything bad that happens being blamed on witchcraft… It’s been happening for hundreds of years – remember Salem?
I don’t think my liver would survive that game. Can I blame that on climate change? 😉
No. You could, however, be “driven to drink” by climate propaganda, so you can blame climate propaganda for your liver failure. 😀
“My first wife drove me to drink, and I never even thanked her!”
W C Fields
Climate change in Chilean Atacama Desert unusual in late August:
Is the Atacama the driest place or is it Antarctica?
Without knowing data, Antarctica is known for much snow.
It’s also known for having the largest (and coldest) desert on the planet. Not quite the driest though.
The Antarctic ‘dry valleys’ come close…
and that, like the Sahara, is because climate change puts more moisture in the atmosphere. It has never been too warm to snow in those places all year, but it has been too dry.
So you’re saying the Sahara will become greener with more moisture and those plants will store more CO2?
Congratulations Griffy – your mental health has now passed a tipping point and you are spouting gibberish with not a grain of truth in it. Sorry dear but you should have got help when I first suggested it, you’ll need to be sectioned for your own safety and others before long.
Griff, by now this site should have taught you that for every “unusual” heat event cited, there is an equivalent “unusual” cold event.
This occurs throughout any and all spans of time you care to choose.
Weather-wise, no events are occurring more frequently than before, nor of any more intensity.
The only effect in play is what slow learners you climate porn addicts are.
How much extra water will a couple of tenths of a degree add to the atmosphere?
Dram Water!!!
But you know, it’s not to long ago, around 9k years, Sahara was green, really green ?
Will say, that tme, it was very rainy, but the African monsun moved southwards around 8k years ago. And no human CO2 was involved, imagine 😀
But the way extraropic low pressure sytems changed.
earth spinning top changes
Imagine a greening Sahara, growing crops there, what a favour !!! 😀
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2436/co2-is-making-earth-greenerfor-now/
Pull!
The Atacama Desert in Chile is the driest place in the world. There, there has been a great snowfall and an extensive layer of snow covers much of the landscape. At some points the thickness layer has reached 15 centimeters. Because of this snowfall, many roads have had to be cut.
Historic snowfall in the driest place in the world, the Atacama Desert in Chile
Krishna, I have worked exploring for copper in the Atacama Desert and It is really dry. In the surrounding foothills it is not uncommon to walk several kilometers without seeing any plants, bugs, birds, etc. If there is a place drier you don’t want to be there.
In which case name of Anto (Antonio or Andronico) Luksic might be very familiar to you.
Some of my most memorable mineral exploration days (years) happened there as well. But I was so much younger then…
Driest, not coldest… the desert, like the Sahara, has always been cold enough in winter for snow, but there hasn’t been the moisture in the atmosphere. It is the increase in atmospheric moisture which now produces snow and that is clearly down to climate change
Hi Griffo
“It is the increase in atmospheric moisture which produced snow and that is clearly” nothing to do with climate change, but in the case of Atacama desert indeed it might be human’s doing:
“Despite modern views of Atacama Desert as fully devoid of vegetation, in pre-Columbian and Colonial times a large flatland area known as Pampa del Tamarugal was a woodland but demand for firewood associated with silver and saltpeter mining in the 18th and 19th centuries resulted in widespread deforestation”.-wikipedia
There, fixed it for you Griffo
That’s odd, I thought it was CO2 that caused climate warming. Maybe I missed something? With all that moisture, you’d think it would be WARMER, not COLDER?
The rel. humidity at 300mb has decreased, as did the spec. humidity, and now ?? 😀
There is no “climate change” that has not occurred many times before, depending on conditions elsewhere. The Atacama desert has been stable for thousands of yrs. and it’s “climate” periods can be ~ 300 +/- years long. There is no evidence of human causation.
Years ago, quite a few years ago, we used to play drink along a Dynasty.
Each time you saw a character with a drink in hand you had to down one. On reflection it’s just as well the programme was only 25 minutes or so, long.
If you were to do this with the mention of climate change and the BBC (or perhaps reading the Guardian in your Gazebo) you wouldn’t last 10 minutes.
I listen to NPR in my car (Know thy enemy) They say “Climate Change” about 5 times an hour, every hour, every day
That’s a lot easier on the gut.
Ah, NPR. I used to wake up to the local affiliate on the radio so that I could stretch a bit in the time it took them to utter several logical fallacies and/or facts that I knew to be completely bogus. Between Morning Sedition and Marxist Place, it was consistent with having a 10-minute snooze function.
Delusion dreamland.
If you want to go easy, drink on the word “unprecedented” – it comes up slightly less often but often enough!
Anything like Beach Blanket Bingo, and I’m in.
Beach Blanket Twister would have been much better. 😀
As us old guys know, Beach Blanket Bingo was a beach party movie in the 60’s. It was one of several starring Frankie Avalon and Annette Funicello. Personally, I never thought Annette was very pretty, but I know most guys liked her big hooters.
Real big wave rider, Greg Noll, hated those movies with guys surfing those “dangerous” 3 foot waves while the girls on the beach looked on anxiously. He was one of the pioneers of big wave riding and was one of the personalities shown in the big wave movie “Riding Giants”, a must see for anyone who has any interest in waves. In an extraordinary twist, while refreshing myself on a few facts just now, I found out Noll died this past June.
I grew up in the 60’s and would argue that 97% of the guys cared not a whit about big wave rider Greg Noll, and much preferred watching Annette Funicello and her big hooters bounce around in a beach party movie with Frankie Avalon or whomever the hell else was there to get Annette into a bikini.
I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s.
I remember Annette long before she developed physically. Frankly, every guy I knew was just as smitten from her earliest appearances in the Mouseketeers.
M-I-C, K-E-Y, and not that loser manniacal.
Annette outgrowing the Disney Club was disappointing to us who were a little younger.
Nor did Annette bounce around much in any of the beach movies. Wild gyrations and bouncing were left to the other ladies.
e.g. Teri Garr was often one of the uncredited young ladies dancing in the beach films, both with Annette and with Presley.
Most of America lived far from decent surfing beaches. I’ve no clue who Noll was or what parts he played.
None of us where I grew up cared about surfing. Only kids that fell for the image of a guy with a surfboard surrounded by ladies fell for the fantasy.
In my neighborhood, they mostly fell for the image sold by Hollywood of a guy with a guitar surrounded by ladies. Early in the 60s, it was folk guitars; by the late fifties it was electric guitars.
I still play the guitar, though it was never a lady magnet.
In the early ’60s growing up in the US we had a TV quiz show called “Truth or Consequences” with MC / moderator Bob Barker. We need to revive it …. “Climate Truth or Consequences.” The next spinoff would be climate modeling “truth or consequences.” And then we can have the next series “Biden Truth or Consequences….” except the answer to that is obvious.
I’m continually surprised by the fact that no-one really does a fact check site solely for political speeches and statements either in the US or UK (apart from 1 or 2 of the most memorable). On the other hand, it would be a lot of work just to find out it was all lies and misinformation!
There is, at least one:
https://bombardsbodylanguage.com/2021/08/27/body-language-increased-brain-fog/
https://bombardsbodylanguage.com/2021/08/18/body-language-nigel-farage-and-extinction-rebellion/
https://bombardsbodylanguage.com/2021/08/26/body-language-aussie-in-thought-crime-prison/
https://bombardsbodylanguage.com/2019/07/26/body-language-matt-gaetz-gohmert-mcclintock-vs-mueller/
Plus, Project Veritas keeps delivering facts:
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-second-dhs-whistleblower-says-cultural-war-taking-place-within/
Groundfrost in Germany in Erz Mountains – East Germany,
Snowstorm in the Alps down to 2000m, frost and snow on Zugspitze- all climate change, but not warming 😀 just rthe oppsite 😀
That’s not a trend though, is it? Heatwaves and record rainfall events in N hemisphere summer are well into double figures…
In your world, griff, a heatwave is two days at 25C
That’s hardly a trend, right?
and always have been.
😀 😀 😀
Didn’t we have “drougts” the last years – so, in your eyes where is any trend ?
Rainy summer hasn’t been predicted, but another year of drought – show me the trend, which ever 😀 😀
What about the cold records set all over the Northern hemisphere last winter. You have either a very short memory or a selective one. If its short it’s because your stupid, if it’s selective it’s because your a liar. Personally I think you lie because your stupid.
Delusional alarmist. Touts every individual fire, every storm, every hot day, every rainstorm, every giffiepoo super selective bit of weather, arson and every absurd model as signs of a burning Earth.
No trends needed, just giffie’s run-at-the-whatever-vent fallacious sophistry pretending that paid alarmism is kinda sorta almost real data.
No, it is not a fun drinking game, CR.
It would be a guaranteed Trip-to-the-hospital-due-to-alcohol-poisoning game.
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Pro tip 1: Be sure to have about 30 shot glasses lined up and filled prior to starting. There will probably not be enough time to refill a shot glass between mentions of Climate Change!
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Pro tip 2: Practice downing shots with either hand. You can reach for the next shot with the empty hand while downing a shot with the other hand. Left, right, left, right…
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Pro tip 3: Call for the ambulance about 20 minutes prior to turning on your propaganda outlet of choice, aka the ‘news’. You may not be conscious enough to call after the ‘news’ has been on for 15 minutes.
(Okay. It’s not quite that bad… yet.)
Trip-to-the-hospital-due-to-alcohol-poisoning game.
This should be a rich source for the Darwin awards?
Can’t win if you don’t play, fretslider.
The safeguards against the Darwin Award were given in the Pro Tips..
😜
What are shot glasses?
The drinking games I almost remember, handed around bottles. If the previous drinker managed to have the bottle pried from their fingers.
Games were short. Quite a few guys were moved to the shower in the bathroom for the inevitable purging cleansing.
No deaths, no poisonings. Chugging the bottle usually got the drinker kicked from the game. We weren’t rich enough to buy drinks for real alcoholics or selfish idiots.
Especially, at night when it was impossible to buy another bottle.
Nowadays, if someone tries to chug my Wild Turkey, Cenizo Mescal, various 100% agave blanco tequilas, tawny ports, Pinot Noirs, freezer kept Vodka, Laird whiskies, St. George’s or small batch Rye or similar spirits, I’ll still take away the bottle then give them a couple of bucks for convenience store plastic bottle formaldehyde.
I’ll even drive them to the nearest convenience store. I won’t wait, but that’s a story for another day.
I just don’t have enough to waste…
“Climate Change” has to be the free center square on the Bingo card.
Let’s fill it out, I will start with:
Polar Bears.
Last Chance
Code Red for Humanity
10 Years Left
Human Caused
OK, everybody, get busy.
Put ‘Extreme’ in a square, TonyL.
Oh c’mon – you forgot my favourite “unprecedented”.
There is also “robust” to contend with. All their projections and models are robust.
The Science is Settled
The Science is Robustly, Extremely, Catastrophically Settled!
I keep waiting for someone to make a Bingo square using numbers, like the real Bingo squares:
2012,2014,2017,2019, Predictions that Arctic ice will reach zero,The list goes on, thousands of papers and many gesticulating spitting alarmists making absurd claims and predictions.
I had a bit of mental instability just now. Someone said that Indian monsoons were made more erratic by climate change. Wait! Wait a mo! The erratics ARE the climate change. So how could climate change cause itself? I felt my mind slipping over the brink into a sort of despair or depression. Then I came to! It’s GLOBAL WARMING that causes the climate change that causes erratics! Meanwhile Indian harvests break records every year. Due to global warming inter alia. Let’s give up climate change.
And coal powered power plants bringing modern appliances to the villages (not the one in Florida)….
Rural India is getting as much power from solar panels…
Not at night.
Or during the monsoons.
Or on cloudy days.
When reality doesn’t suit you, just make up stuff.
Rural India still goes to the toilet in the fields where women get raped.
Just what are your priorities, griff?
So much they have and built coal plants ? Amazing 😀
Utter bollocks. Why is it that you must tell such bald faced lies giffie?
You should crawl up to your bathroom and wash your mouth out immediate. Use Phisohex, a bactericide.
India:
Solar isn’t even listed by itself.
I would like to see Josh and a few other game designers that frequent this site design a snakes and ladders game to discredit alarmism and promote adaption. Snakes take the player down with a lesson on some alarmist nonsense and ladders take them up with sensible actions based on real science. This would be a great way to begin teaching young children.
… that’s “chutes and ladders” for those non-urapeans.
And that’s Europeans.
and of course when they say it, they are right…
fires and new record temperatures in heatwaves across the Med: climate change. Extreme rain and floods in Germany and China: climate change… heatwave, drought, record temps and fires in Canada/USA – climate change
“Extreme rain and floods”
H.R. scores with “Extreme”. (See above.)
Well Done, H.R.
Hic!
Natural variability, nothing else. That’s why there is snow in late August in Chile, in Germany, frost in Germany – that you didn’t mention, why ? Not your narrative ? 😀
Record harvest in India despite “horrible” monsun 😀
There is a difference between the events, isn’t there?
Meteorological bodies have referred to the rainstorm in China – which saw a year’s worth of rainfall in three days – as a one-in-1,000-year weather event. The rainfall broke hourly and daily records of the 70 years of collected data.
The heavy rainfall in the south of North Rhine-Westphalia and north of Rhineland-Palatinate in Germany produced accumulations which averaged 100 to 150 mm (3.9 to 5.9 in) in 24 hours, equivalent to more than a month’s worth of rain. In Reifferscheid, 207 mm (8.1 in) fell within a nine-hour period while Cologne observed 154 mm (6.1 in) in 24 hours. Some of the affected regions may not have seen rainfall of this magnitude in the last 1,000 years.
The searing heat that scorched western Canada and the US at the end of June was “virtually impossible” without climate change, say scientists. In their study, the team of researchers says that the deadly heatwave was a one-in-a-1,000-year event.
The scale of the recent events and the spate of such events in recent decades clearly show they are NOT variability, but a disturbing trend.
You just don’t demonstrate the capacity for scientific reasoning or basic statistical analysis.
Improbable events happen all the time. Considering the many possibilities and places, one should expect numerous 1 in 1000 year events to happen every day.
There are tens of thousands of official weather stations in the world. There are hundreds of times as many unofficial ones.
Just from random chance, one would expect hundreds of 1 in 1000 events every year.
This is why warmistas refuse to study statistics, because it gets in the way of their fantasies.
griff actually appears to believe that if a 1 in 1000 event occurs, anywhere in the world, then it’s proof that CO2 is gonna kill us all.
There is a difference between the events, isn’t there?
Yes, that’s why it’s plural – events
When are you back to school?
And are not the firs floods, and won’t be the last.
And the rain quantities have been predicted, days before, it was not “unprecedented” at all. 😀
A one in a thousand year event means it’s happened at least ten times during the holocene without people whining about co2.
Major flood events result from the interaction of atmospheric and hydrological processes. Prior to major flooding, the catchment area experienced prolonged wet conditions and saturated soils. The large amount of precipitation and the saturated soil in May 2013 were the direct results of the atmospheric conditions that prevailed during this period. May 2013 was characterized by a dipole-like structure in the sea level pressure (SLP) field, characterized by an anticyclonic circulation over the central Atlantic Ocean and a cyclonic circulation over the central part of Europe and the North Sea (Fig. 2c). Moreover, the second half of May and the first days of June were characterized at the 500-mb level by an atmospheric blocking circulation that persisted for more than 16 days. This system featured a cyclonic circulation over the Alpine region and Germany, an anticyclonic circulation over the northern part of the Scandinavian Peninsula and eastern Europe, and a cyclonic circulation over Siberia. The cyclonic circulation over the Alpine region and Germany, which is typical for spring and summer floods over central Europe and is known as “Zugstrasse Vb” *) (Mudelsee et al. 2004), advected a lot of moisture from the Mediterranean Sea toward the Alps. (My emphasis)
*)Vb low pressure
Predicting the June 2013 European Flooding Based on Precipitation, Soil Moisture, and Sea Level Pressure
You see, as the flood this year also has been a Vb low pressure system, known for heavy rain.
In so far, not extraordinary, not unusual.
The results of research show a high relevance for the occurrence of floods due to Vb-tracks for Central Europe. Low-pressure areas tracking Vb have the potential to create critical floods because of their unusually high amount of precipitation. This knowledge is used to generate hydrographs, which represent the peak processing of the flood in the entire catchment. Using a new catalogue of Vb-tracks, it can be shown that between the years 1959 and 2015 Vb-tracks have been responsible for at least 30% of all observed flood events during the period April to October. In the summer months, every second Vb-track induces a flood. Furthermore, it is clear that in around 60% of all observed cases Vb-tracks are sequential and at least one other low-pressure area follows on this track within a month.
Rainfall-runoff simulation of extreme flood hydrographs with reference to Vb-tracks to follow up an impact analysis of combined flood retention reservoirs using the example of the Isar catchment
You see, griff a well known, not unusual weather pattern, no reason to worry about. 😀
While this summer’s weather in western Canada has been hotter and drier than normal, the climate statistics for a number of areas that have experienced higher than normal wildfire activity don’t support your “team of researchers”. Merritt BC has been surrounded by wildfires and is not far away from the village of Lytton that was razed by a deliberately set fire. Please check out the 20 year temperature/precipitation stats from the link below.
20 Year Merritt July Climate.xlsx
With the exception of a few ten-thousandths of a percent of CO2 increase, how exactly toy does the current western U.S. drought differ from the decade long drought and subsequent dust bowl of the 1930s?
Nope. Wrong, again!
That was the published accounts of news sources. Propagandized news sources that couldn’t be bothered to check records or the history behind specious claims.
That a new city in China only recently started record keeping utterly fails to support absurd statistics, especially when neighboring towns have records dating back hundreds of years and have recorded similar instances.
Utter BS.
There are woodcut prints of worse floods in these areas in the last couple of centuries.
Still a fraud giffie.
Again, horse piles!
That wasn’t “searing heat”. Nor have those events never happened before or even never happened recently.. One day barely set a new high temperature for that location!
At this point, giffiepoo.
You have made extraordinary claims which require evidence.
Provide evidence for every claim you’ve made. Evidence that comes from long term unadjusted or smudged databases, not specious claims from biased sources.
Yup and the floods in The Netherlands were expected and accepted as a once in 50 years occurrence. Where exactly is the problem, Griff?
Total fraud!
Have you started frothing at the mouth and biting the furniture yet? That’ll be the next symptomatic behaviour pattern. Get help dear.
Have you thought of having a rational discussion and offering contrary evidence rather than first grade name calling?
Now that was funny
My congratulations to your script writer
griff and rational are two concepts that don’t belong in the same sentence.
Name it oxymoron 😀
I have to stay away from the two-bit words. I’ve already blown through the budget for this month.
You’re incapable of being rational. To you, “‘bad’ news = climate change.” Your delusions have nothing to do with “rational discussions.”
Your comments ask for 😀 😀
Griffy, in order to have a rational conversation, both parties should be rational. You have shown a remarkable lack of rationality over your many delusional posts so I lost all hope some time ago of having a rational conversation with you. As to ‘first grade name calling’, I hardly think so, dear – I always use your name, albeit with a ‘y’ on the end as a friendly gesture. You really do have severe problems, don’t you, dear?
I see griff is still trying to push that claim that anything differs from last year is proof of global warming.
Who cares how often it occurred in the past, because this time it’s CO2 whut caused it.
The sacred models have spoken.
It’s clear that Griff fully believes that consistent weather without any variation is what was common before human causation, initiating change.
Weather!
Whether it’s cold, whether it’s hot, we’ve got to have weather, whether or not.
Hey griff, does lightning strike twice in the same spot? Extreme weather events happen every year in different parts of the globe. Always has, always will.
Climate change, the latest propaganda iteration of global warming is apparently caused by extensive arson around the Mediterranean.
There you go again, claiming weather events that have repeatedly occurred in recorded history are alleged climate change.
Falsified again, giffie excrement.
Am thinking along the lines of it being the ‘other way round’
Along the lines of the much vaunted Polluter Pays principle – when said and done that what all this Climate Science is – pollution.
Media presenters would then be under an obligation NOT to mention CC, unless it was demonstrably provable that it did have a bearing on what they were talking about.
If it ‘just slipped out’, they personally would be required to compensate the viewers/readers who spotted it, recorded it or grabbed the screenshot..
Mmmm, yes, I like that. That one’s got legs, lets see it run.
Late thought:
As it is actually Real (what is called) Pollution in the form of NOx, SOx, Soot/Smoke, Farmland/City/Cement/Iron works, Traffic and Quarrying Dust that is causing the observed Global Greening – is it possible that the ‘pollution’ I’m referring to here has any, so far, unknown benefits?
It is such a big & magical world, plus, there is certainly ‘something‘ out there with an awesome & wicked sense of humour, I would not be surprised.
More research is called 4 metinks, watch this space
😀
The trouble with that game is you could never find enough money to make the payouts to the “winners.” [Unless maybe you funded it through government “grants.” (/sarc)]
The trouble with that game, if it was a drinking game is I can’t afford to buy that much booze never mind drink it. Although I would try my best
C’mon, man! Take one for the team.
That’s the spirit(s)!
😜
How about I have a drink every time griff gets an up vote, oh no that won’t work I’d be the designated driver forever.
Iiii’mm no soooo shuurrre hic
Next Solar Maximum may be Safest Time for Manned Missions to Mars
https://sservi.nasa.gov/articles/next-solar-maximum-may-be-safest-time-for-manned-missions-to-mars/
There is legitimate reasoning for this: balancing radiation risks between Galactic cosmic rays (reduced during solar maximum) and solar radiation from what would be a weak sunspot cycle.
I think NASA is planning to travel at night, Vuk. You know, when the sun isn’t shining.
😜
I don’t think that is correct. But I am pretty sure that they will be flying away from the Sun, towards Mars, so they’ll be traveling in the same direction as the radiation, so it won’t hit them as hard.
They’ll feel a little tingle on their butts, then?
More fun to do that as a drinking game. Heck, it’s 5 o’clock somewhere.
We can expect US National Climate Charlatans to blame Climate Change on the strengthening of Tropical Storm Ida, headed for Louisiana on Sunday landfall, to possibly a Major Cat 3 just before landfall.
My Ap/Kp Geomagnetic – Atlantic Basin Rapid Intensification (RI) hypothesis is in full play on Ida this weekend.
Yesterday, on the Sun, Active Region 12859 (2859) let loose a C3.0 Xray flare and simultaneously launched a full-halo CME towards Earth. That CME and the solar wind distrubances it brings will begin hitting Earth, and buffeting the geomagneticenvironment starting Saturday afternoon-evening and into the Sunday morning. From this CME arrival and geomagnetic disturbance, we expect significant jumps of the Kp and Ap indices to cocur at that time.
Accordingly, my Ap/Kp Geomagnetic – Atlantic Basin RI hypothesis strongly predicts that Ida will then simultaneously undergo a near- to full-on RI event just prior to landfall Sunday afternoon somewhere along the northern Gulf Coast.
Bad Juju for the people there.
And predictably, the Climate Charlatans and Quacks like Mikey Mann and Kerry Emanuel of MIT will undoubtedly blame the nature of this tropical cyclone intensification of the manufactured climate scam.
Attached is the SDO image at 13.1 nm (EUV) of AR 2858 as it flares and launches the CME on 8/26/2021 at 1805:32 GMT.
The SOHO Lasco C3 image of the CME leaving the sun is attached. The faint Halo CME is seen on the left side of the disc image from 08/26/2021 at 2118 GMT.
This is NOT a major CME by any means. But still enough that it will almost certainly produce a minor-midscale (station Kp’s > 4, and Ap > 20, but probably 40 or more) geomagnetic storm starting Saturday afternoon going to Sunday morning.
You can “watch” a 4 day archive animated GIF of the Lasco C2 movie here:
Note: there was more impressive CME on 08/24/21 at 0614 GMT from a solar disc western limb filament eruption (not AR associated) that led to a limb darkening event on the SDO EUV imagers. This CME did not hit Earth directly but affecting the solar wind enough to elevate the current Kp stations readings today (27 August).
wOw! Cool images, Joel. 👍👍
Thank you very much!
Unfortunately here is a city that did something like this for real in 2020.
https://cob.org/event/all-in-for-climate-action-week-closing-event
You tube recording of the game via zoom
https://youtu.be/3L5jF0pgKjQ
Our tax dollars at work. Bellingham Washington is one of the extreme lefty nut places now.
Climate change(from global warming) has been defined so that it’s responsible for everything bad.
It causes great harm to good creatures and things……. humans, polar bears, butterflies, honey bees, crops, tree frogs, beer…normal weather…..etc.
But at the same time, it provides the optimal environment for all bad creatures and things to multiply with massive abundance…….ticks, mosquitoes, flies, roaches, weeds, virus’s, extreme weather.
Amazing. Same conditions (same climate/weather) for ALL things but somehow, increasing CO2 (the building block of all life) kills off all good things, while acting like a beneficial gas, to provide optimal conditions for all bad things, pathogens and pests.
Applying this irrefutable law of climate change, that was discovered by the United Nations in the late 1980’s, which caused them to create the IPCC, to spread the knowledge of it, we should assume that The Little Ice age, and the previous glacial period, that was even colder…… should have greatly helped the cold loving good life and killed off the heat loving bad life.
One would have thought that it was THEN that humans and life would have seen explosive development and flourished with all that pesky, harmful life virtually eliminated (-:
Trying to make this new law of life/death resulting from human caused climate change fit in with the reality …….we also need to redefine photosynthesis.
CO2 = pollution
Sun + water + minerals +
CO2POLLUTION =O2+Food/SugarsDYING PLANETinTo interpret all the satellite images and authentic measurements of our planet using empirical data/observations so that they support this new law means………our planet is facing Death by Greening!
Fake beer crisis/Death by GREENING!
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Started by metmike – May 11, 2021, 2:31 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/6925
Hey Griffy, check out the CC in South America. https://electroverse.net/freedoms-curtailed-antarctic-blast-hits-argentina-autumn-has-already-begun-in-europe. You can see the snow in Aus. from orbit. https://electroverse.net/level-6-alert-issued-in-sa-aussie-snow-visible-from-space-uk-wind-farm-worker-froze-to-death/. By the way ABC= Always Bad Coverage.
farm worker froze to death? Obviously terrible climate change caused by CO2 trapping the heat somewhere else and not letting it through to where it was needed!
Not a good party game because all the players would be roaring drunk within minutes.