‘Welt’ Commentary: Germany Flood Catastrophe Made Possible By “Inconceivable Ignorance”…”Unbelievable Scandal”

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By P Gosselin on 20. July 2021

Germany under water. Photo by P. Gosselin

Climate alarmist media waking up?

Germany’s climate alarmist media appears to be waking up a little, and thus are not totally buying the claims being made by German leaders that the devastating floods were due to climate change. It’s becoming increasingly clear the human catastrophe was the result of unimaginable government incompetence.

Though NTZ initially received a few complaints for blaming the loss of life on “criminal negligence” earlier, such complaints have stopped coming in as it is becoming clear as to why nearly 200 people lost their lives.

Catastrophe made possible by “inconceivable ignorance”

Today we are seeing unusually harsh criticism coming from a number of media outlets aimed at the German government’s ineptitude. For example, ‘Welt’ science editor Axel Bojanowski wrote a commentary that the flood catastrophe was made possible by “inconceivable ignorance”.

Bojanowski comments further:

Politicians, authorities and the media point to climate change as the cause of the flood disaster. Yet severe weather warnings were not taken seriously. And disaster protection in our country is at the level of a developing country.

The risk was known: Rainfall like this week’s has happened repeatedly in Germany, historical chronicles read like blueprints for the current flood disaster, and hazard maps show the flood risk. Yet politicians, authorities and the media point to climate change as the cause – while disaster protection in Germany is at the level of a developing country. An unbelievable scandal.

At least 156 people have died because of heavy rain in Germany. Rain had fallen in amounts that have always been expected in Germany and have been an occasional occurrence since time immemorial. The same places that have been devastated by floods of rain this week have been hit in a similar way in the past, as chronicles show.”

660-year record of floods

Those claiming that the weather catastrophe came unexpectedly and that there was no way to be ready for it are no longer being taken very seriously, and are only confirming their historical ignorance.

Dr. Karl August Seel provides a comprehensive history of the River Ahr flood events – going back to the year 1348.

The Ahr River, the ground zero of last week’s flood disaster, is the northernmost tributary of the Rhine and has a length of 90 km and a catchment area of 900 square kilometers.

Lethal stupidity

As the chronicles show, flooding events happened dozens of times and the authorities were obviously comatose at the wheel.

For too many years a crusty old bureaucracy focused on climate protection while ignoring protection from the whims of the weather. Their strategy, as unbelievable as it may sound, was to try to produce good weather by cutting CO2 emissions. It’s that stupid.

The people who want us to think they can rescue the world’s climate couldn’t even manage a flood.

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Tom
July 21, 2021 6:18 am

It’s almost as if a) the government believes their own BS, or b) they need the disaster to happen in order that everyone else will believe their BS.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Tom
July 21, 2021 6:22 am

It’s a toss up. I’d cover the bases and go with a) and b). They are not mutually exclusive.

Tom
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
July 21, 2021 7:04 am

Ya, I should have added, c) all of the above.

willem post
Reply to  Tom
July 21, 2021 7:55 am

RE folks were hoping a flood, a big wind, or a heat wave would happen, so they could use their prepared, boiler-plate PR statements regarding GW, and keep the pot boiling.

Wind and solar has reached about its peak in Germany, because the rest of the grid cannot handle the output variations.

Exporting increasingly larger quantities of heavily subsidized electricity excesses is becoming unfeasible, because nearby countries also are running into variation management problems.

Batteries could be a partial answer, but their costs remain off-the-charts for some years to come.
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/high-costs-of-wind-solar-and-battery-systems

Reply to  willem post
July 21, 2021 11:56 am

Probably going to end up buying power from Polish nukes.

Willem Post
Reply to  Jean Parisot
July 21, 2021 12:45 pm

Poland is about 85% coal

Lrp
Reply to  Willem Post
July 21, 2021 2:16 pm

Best nuke

Filip
Reply to  Willem Post
July 22, 2021 8:37 am

@Jean Parisot
Do not know what to say, polish nukes seem so far away…

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D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Willem Post
July 22, 2021 4:06 pm

More like 78%. They currently operate a research reactor named Maria. There is a current plan to install about 6GWe of nuclear by 2035.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Tom
July 21, 2021 9:21 am

The political need was to spin what could have been foreseen and ameliorated into something that they had already warned you about and were addressing

Reply to  Tom
July 21, 2021 9:38 am

“Although the heavy rains had been forecast days in advance, nothing was done to avert the inevitable destruction. Instead of taking responsibility, politicians are blaming climate change in a bid to shift attention away from their incompetence and gross negligence.”
 
There is another possibility – that failure to control the flooding was a deliberate act to promote climate change fear.
 
Examine one recent parallel – the Covid-19 alleged pandemic and its many frauds, used to create widespread fear and stringent population control:
 
Summary – from a public letter I sent to our Alberta government:
 
The Alberta Government’s management of Covid-19 has been an incompetent, deadly disaster:
1      There was no justification for the Covid-19 lockdown of under-65’s that started in March 2020 – the risk of Covid-19 death to 1Dec2020 for under-65’s was only 1 in 300,000.
2      The harm done by the lockdowns exceeded the harm done by the Covid-19 illness by approximately 10 to 100 times.
3      There was no increase in total deaths in Alberta or Canada to 30June2020 – no total death increase means NO deadly Covid-19 pandemic. Average age of death from Covid-19 in Alberta was 82.
4      The PCR tests were not a suitable method for estimating Covid-19 cases or basing policy. The resulting policies were entirely wrong and destructive.
5      There was no justification for the prevention of Covid-19 treatment with cheap, effective medicines like Ivermectin – as a result, lives were lost.
6      There was no justification for the widespread promotion of dangerous, relatively ineffective, costly Covid-19 injections by Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson. These experimental injections are causing enormous harm to those who receive them, should never be given to under-18’s, and in the long term could kill or seriously injure more people than the Covid-19 illness.
7      There is overwhelming evidence that the Covid-19 panic and lockdown was a politically-driven scam, and Alberta government officials were either fooled or deliberately collaborated with it – the government’s actions were either utterly incompetent or they were criminal.
8      I first formally notified the Alberta government of these Covid-19 facts on 3Sept2020 (below), and published the correct path forward months earlier, on 21&22March2020.
9      Alberta government officials “knew or should have known” that they were following a disastrous, destructive path as early as March 2020 and should have taken a completely different approach as summarized above, which would have saved billions of dollars and many lives.
10 NOTICES OF LIABILITY have already been served on all members of the European Parliament. Based on evidence of serious harm, THE GOVERNMENT OF ALBERTA SHOULD IMMEDIATELY AND PERMANENTLY CEASE ALL COVID-19 INJECTIONS OF UNDER-18’S and should immediately cease all Covid-19 injections for all other Albertans pending an emergency safety review. The civil and criminal liability of all members of the Alberta Legislature, including all members of the Opposition who have failed to vigorously oppose these dangerous injections, is clear. All of you “knew or should have known” that you were mis-managing the Covid-19 response and causing great harm, and you are fully responsible for the enormous damage done to Alberta and Albertans.
__________________________

I suggest that if you’re going to have a real deadly pandemic, it’s got to kill people who would not have died anyway of other causes. While the authorities in New York State, England and a few other places did their best by returning infected Covid-19 patients to old folks homes to infect and kill other patients, it just was not enough. So they pumped up the death stats:
 
In the USA, the coding for Covid-19 deaths was changed in March 2020.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/04/faulty_covid_death_numbers_explained.html
 
Under the old coding, Covid-19 deaths were 1/16 of current reported totals, more like ~40,000 Covid deaths, not ~600,000. 40,000 flu deaths is a light flu year for the USA.
 
I nailed this fraud early, by comparing per capita Covid-19 deaths in Alberta with those in the USA – my ratio was ~10 times too high for the USA vs the 16 reported above.
 
The USA authorities’ Covid-19 stats are false and fraudulent. Huge numbers of deaths from other causes were falsely coded as Covid – 100% fraud.
___________________________
 
Lowering of water levels is routine operational procedure in the two dams upstream of Calgary on the Bow and Elbow rivers, and it works well most years. An examination should be launched to inquire why this was not done in Germany. Also, why were the populations not emergency-evacuated? This is also standard operating procedure.
 
Like the global warming fraud and the Covid-19 lockdown fraud, this needless loss-of-life in Germany has a strong aroma of the barnyard.
 
Scare the hell out of people and then get them to act against their own best interest – it worked for Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot – the great killers of the 20th Century.
 
The 21st Century has produced a whole new crop of monsters and their pack-of-lies.
 

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 21, 2021 10:53 am

In 2013 Calgary and Southern Alberta experienced the most severe flooding in more than a century. This was the most expensive natural disaster in Canadian history.
 
The weather service provided adequate warning (~24 hours?) and emergency evacuation procedures were enacted. Only one person died in Calgary – an elderly woman who was missed in the evacuation.
 
I had a Board of Directors meeting that day for a large homeless shelter. I placed my five-year-old daughter with friends on high ground, and phoned into the meeting from my condo on the Elbow River. At about 6:00pm I called an end to the meeting, because the water levels were rising quickly on the Bow and Elbow Rivers. Our excellent staff successfully evacuated our ~1200 homeless clients to alternative lodging, most from our main building on the Bow River. I drove up the parkade ramp as water started to trickle down from the flooded driveway, picked up my daughter and stayed with friends.
 
After a few months and many billions of dollars in repairs, life in Southern Alberta returned to normal. Long term flood improvements have still not been constructed.
 
One of my new friends, Lt Col David Redman, was Alberta’s emergency officer in charge of crisis management for the 2013 flood, and he did an excellent job. It is notable that he was NOT asked to manage the 2020 Covid-19 response, and instead it has been very poorly managed by our young Chief Medical Officer and the Kenney Cabinet.
 
Similar incompetent management of Covid-19 has occurred in every province in Canada. As a result, Statistics Canada recently confirmed that the number of deaths from the ill-advised Covi-19 lockdown exceeded the number of deaths from the Covid-19 illness. The average age of death from Covid-19 in Alberta was ~82, and the average age from other causes due to the ill-advised lockdown was ~30. Years-of-life totaled over 25,000 in Alberta – multiply that by ~9 for all of Canada.
 
Politicians gave themselves “Attaboys all around!”. Most of the mainstream press lauded the politicians’ blatant bullsh!t. More Attaboys!

Ttt
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 21, 2021 11:31 am

As I recall, the Federal Government sent disaster relief to Quebec during the Alberta floods to relieve suffering that might arise in Quebec due to delays in their transfer payments (for non-Canadians, transfer payments are a bribe that the rest of Canada, mostly Alberta, pays to Quebec to keep them from separating from Canada. Most of the money goes to the Mafia or their subsidiaries such as Bombardier or SNC Lavalin.

Editor
Reply to  Ttt
July 21, 2021 12:05 pm

Why are transfer payments from “mostly Alberta”? Isn’t Ontario more populous? Seems like a higher percentage would come from there. And why do you have to bribe Quebec to stay Canadian?

rip

Reply to  ripshin
July 21, 2021 12:40 pm

Reflect for a moment on the two episodes (so far) of Quebec’s Neverendum, and the complex policies must be implemented to win and retain power in a modern Social Democracy.

Reply to  ripshin
July 21, 2021 2:02 pm

Since 1961 the average Alberta family has subsidized the Rest-of-Canada by about $1 million per family-of-four via tax transfers.

Tax transfers occur when the feds collect money in one province and spend it in another. Alberta finances the entire country with our oil wealth and has done so for over 60 years. Ontario and BC also contributed for a while.

Here is a summary of tax transfers from province to province. Since 1961, only Ontario, Alberta and BC are net positive, contributing more money to the rest-of-Canada than they took out. Now, only Alberta is positive. Ontario’s manufacturing economy has been severely harmed by costly, intermittent green energy policies. BC has also recently become a subsidized province.

PER CAPITA NET FEDERAL FISCAL BALANCE BY PROVINCE,           
(AVERAGE ANNUAL IN 2017$), 1961-2017                            

Province 1961-2017  Per Family                
          Cdn$ Billions of Four (Cdn$)                           

NL         -$172.3        -$1,254,228
                               
PEI          -$49.1        -$1,506,396
                               
NS        -$305.8         -$1,375,752
                               
NB        -$202.7         -$1,121,532
                               
QC        -$476.3            -$267,216
                               
ON        +$722.9          +$279,300
                               
MB       -$175.2            -$618,336
                               
SK          -$98.8             -$398,316
                               
AB        +$611.0           +$837,672
+2%int. +$906.5     +$1,242,827
                               
BC        +$120.8           +$125,628
                               
TERR   -$113.2         -$5,035,608                                                 

Source: Statistics Canada data and computations by R. Mansell and M. Khanal (U of Calgary)

Email from Robert Mansell re tax transfers: We were both partly correct, but you were more so for recent years. Mansell wrote: “In terms of this, Ontario was a net beneficiary from 1980 to 1985 and in 2009. BC was a net beneficiary in 1961, then from 1977 to 1990.”

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Ttt
Reply to  Ttt
July 22, 2021 7:51 am

Hmmm, Ttt was actually me BCBill. Typing finger must have spasmed.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 24, 2021 6:03 pm

My understanding is that Calgary’s flood was rated a ‘once in 75 years’ event, as was flooding of Cedar Rapids IA earlier.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 21, 2021 11:09 am

In 2013 Calgary and Southern Alberta experienced the most severe flooding in more than a century. This was the most expensive natural disaster in Canadian history.
 
The weather service provided adequate warning (~24 hours?) and emergency evacuation procedures were enacted. Only one person died – an elderly woman who was missed in the evacuation.
 
I had a Board of Directors meeting that day for a large homeless shelter. I placed my five-year-old daughter with friends on high ground, and phoned into the meeting from my condo on the Elbow River. At about 6:00pm I called an end to the meeting, because the water levels were rising quickly on the Bow and Elbow Rivers. Our excellent staff successfully evacuated our ~1200 homeless clients to alternative lodging. I drove up the parkade ramp as water started to trickle down from the flooded driveway, picked up my daughter and stayed with friends.
 
After a few months and many billions of dollars in repairs, life returned to normal. Long term flood improvements have still not been constructed.
 
One of my new friends, Lt Col David Redman, was Alberta’s emergency officer in charge of crisis management for the 2013 flood, and he did an excellent job. It is notable that he was NOT asked to manage the Covid-19 response, and instead it has been very poorly managed by our young Chief Medical Officer and the Premier Kenney Cabinet.
 
Similar incompetent management of Covid-19 has occurred in every province in Canada. As a result, Statistics Canada recently confirmed that the number of deaths from the ill-advised Covi-19 lockdown exceeded the number of deaths from the Covid-19 illness. The average age of death from Covid-19 in Alberta was ~82, and the average age from other causes due to the ill-advised lockdown was ~30. Years-of-life totaled over 25,000 in Alberta – multiply that by ~9 for all of Canada.
 
Politicians gave themselves “Attaboys all around! ”. Most of the mainstream press lauded the politicians’ blatant bullsh!t. More Attaboys!

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Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 24, 2021 6:00 pm

Sigh. Use Occam’s Razor.

Duane
Reply to  Tom
July 21, 2021 11:08 am

Nothing new to see here. The DemoCommies blamed Katrina on George W. Bush and “attaboy Brownie”, and of course completely ignored their own incompetence and criminal negligence in failing to order evacuations, and decades of corrupt mismanagement of their levies. The “corruption tax” at work.

New Orleans only got Cat 1 winds, yet suffered nearly 6 thousand killed … while many miles to the east, in MS, AL, and FL, where the vastly stronger Cat 5 and Cat 4 winds hit, and where the “nasty side” of all hurricanes always are in the northern hemisphere, those states only suffered a couple hundred killed. They unlike the corrupt DemoCommies in LA evacuated, and did not have flood control systems that were totally dysfunctional.

So the media, the handmaidens of the DemoCommies, decided to blame it all on those evil Republicans in DC.

beng135
Reply to  Duane
July 22, 2021 7:25 am

And the obviously inadequate flood protection of New Orleans had been warned about over and over for DECADES and little to nothing ever done about it.

Reply to  Duane
July 24, 2021 6:11 pm

For anyone not familiar with the term, ‘levee’ is what is called a dike in many places.

Richmond BC is surrounded by dikes, the Ladner part of Delta BC depends on dikes against river and ocean.

Typically a high structure, often earthen, with drainage ditch on protected side. A problem with dikes and dams is erosion by water finding a path around/through.

Ladner and Richmond depend on pumps, recently upgraded in capacity and redundancy including of power supply.

July 21, 2021 6:27 am

Everybody is sated with news about what ever catastrophes in view, climate, Covid, and if really one is relevant, nobody cares.

M Courtney
July 21, 2021 6:37 am

The weather varies year on year by 20°C everywhere. The humidity with it.
Climate change predicts 2°C change in a century.

That’s a 10 x smaller effect. That’s a 100 x slower impact.

Trying to control the weather through trace gas emissions is like trying to slow a juggernaut by spitting on the windscreen.

buggs
Reply to  M Courtney
July 21, 2021 10:29 am

Where I reside our temperature range is from -40C to +40C. We rarely hit either end of that spectrum but it occurs nearly annually.

People forget that averages are comprised of values that extend on either side of the average, including extremes. They’ve always happened, that’s why you see records dispersed across decades or even centuries.

Fraizer
Reply to  buggs
July 21, 2021 3:16 pm

As they say, the average person has one breast and one testicle.

Vincent
July 21, 2021 6:38 am

It’s always puzzled me why local governments and authorities, who have access to the historical record of flooding in their area, do not take the measures required to reduce or eliminate the potential damage from future flooding events, by building flood-mitigation dams and effective drainage systems

The only explanation I think of is, it’s just too expensive. It’s easier to blame such floods on CO2 emissions.

Richard Page
Reply to  Vincent
July 21, 2021 7:05 am

They are career politicians – they only put money into showy, photo-op projects that they can spin into immediate poll results. Flood defences and mitigation are not sexy or immediate enough, even though they are absolutely essential every so often.
Truly, the career politician is a blight upon humanity.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Richard Page
July 21, 2021 8:26 am

You have over-looked another possible explanation. Career politicians are people who can’t get real jobs because they are too stupid, uneducated, or both. Therefore, they may not have realized the risk of flooding — and probably still don’t!

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
July 21, 2021 10:48 am

Apart from being too stupid to function well in a market economy, they also suffer from advanced Dunning Kruger Syndrome so they’re unaware of their own shortcomings.

twobob
Reply to  Vincent
July 21, 2021 8:04 am

It is because the people that were in charge,do not pass the knowledge forward, Thus you have a lot of ignorant newly elected, having to learn the lessons all over again.
Plus the hubris, that most new-young people have that they do not have to listen to the Older out going people;- as they are here to incorporate new thinking’s to old problems.

Dave Fair
Reply to  twobob
July 21, 2021 12:39 pm

Plan for the future? Hell, we don’t even plan for the past!

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Vincent
July 21, 2021 8:09 am

It wouldnt have cost much to lower the full dam for the 4 days warning they had to catch catch some of the rainwater. And another thing, if the weather people predicted it how can authorities get away with claiming it was an unexpected expression of diabolic climate change? As a bare minimum they could have published one of their flood maps and told everyone to go someplace outside the low ground. The fat useless heads of the authorities should be fired and new heads from outside the bureaucracy hired.

The head of state needs to make an abject apology for her hysterical, helpless and self serving remarks absolving the authorities of blame. Why should she and the authorities not feel they need to act “because of climate change.” Surely, if if you truly believe in this fairytale, you should be upping your game to ward off harm!

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 21, 2021 9:31 am

The buck stops on Merkel’s desk and the desks of all the government officials down the line that are responsible for not doing their jobs and contributing to this devastation.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
July 21, 2021 12:40 pm

But will the ‘independent’ journalists put the buck where it firmly belongs?

starzmom
Reply to  Vincent
July 21, 2021 8:53 am

Not only do they have access to historical records, the previous flood levels are usually marked on affected structures, going back hundreds of years. The floods are no secret.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Vincent
July 21, 2021 9:22 am

Even simply warning people – “Evacuate and move to an hotel” would have been an option

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Leo Smith
July 21, 2021 10:36 am

This was done in Valkenburg on the Dutch side of the border where the city center was totally flooded. Some 700 homes were damaged, but no one died. Article available under “$470 million flood damage bill in hard-hit Dutch town”.

jim duncan
Reply to  Robert Hanson
July 22, 2021 1:26 am

The Netherland’s very existence depends on pumping water out of their bilges. Flooding is a default state.

Reply to  Vincent
July 24, 2021 6:13 pm

Cheapness, to spend on glitz, fluff, pet do-gooder projects, cronies, and buying votes.

Politicians are suckers for alarmist scams.

John Dueker
July 21, 2021 6:41 am

It starts with government being solely focused on their crusade against co2 that they forgot to think about the weather.

Then rather than accept blame and fix the system they blame co2 ignoring history showing this happens repeatedly. It happens repeatedly whenever a government failure kills people they try to dodge the blame.

I hope the German people are smart enough to see through the diversion.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  John Dueker
July 21, 2021 10:31 am

Don’t count on the Germans being just smart.
They are the smartest of the bunch.

They are the historic world experts in propaganda, one Austrian with a little Moustache started in style with his short and mean friend Joseph in top form, then Honecker & friends did it even better, and now they sent one of their own number to head the EU.

Russians are complete amateurs compared with the abilities of Germans to tell lies totally convincingly.

Alex
July 21, 2021 7:21 am

Wow!
Axel left Der Spiegel and writes now for Die Welt.
Spiegel is completely red-green and Axel had to write alarmist stories there. A few years ago, it was clear, he began to understand how skewed is the climate agenda. Some phrases in his stories were more and more realistic, even skeptical sometimes.
So, he left for Die Welt – one of the conservative newspapers.
And look!
His article is very anti-alarmistic now!

Josie
July 21, 2021 7:23 am

Media waking up? Hmm. One swallow does not make a summer. Sadly.

mkelly
Reply to  Josie
July 21, 2021 9:18 am

Always enjoy a Downton Abbey reference.

Leo Smith
Reply to  mkelly
July 21, 2021 9:24 am

I thought it was a reference to Bill Clinton..”one swallow does not make a relationship”

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Leo Smith
July 21, 2021 11:50 am

LMFAO! Based on “Slick Willy’s” standards, nobody should be arrested for receiving fellatio from a hooker, since that is (according to him) not “sexual relations.”

As sad as is makes me to say it, Bill Clinton was a fine president compared with the senile string puppet in the White House now, or the last USA-hating Democrat that held the position of POTUS. When standards have declined sharply from a man who stooped to perjury in a court of law even though everybody knew he was full of shit and didn’t believe a word he was saying, that’s pretty sad.

beng135
Reply to  Leo Smith
July 22, 2021 7:29 am

Yuck — the image of that…..

Walter Sobchak
July 21, 2021 7:27 am

“unimaginable government incompetence.”

Really? Governmental incompetence, as well as lying and blame shifting, is the normal states of human affairs. If it is inconceivable to you, it he failure of imagination is your alone.

n.n
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
July 21, 2021 8:08 am

Not mortal gods or goddesses. Domain experts with limits and motives.
TRAPT Human (Like The Rest Of Us)

Paul Johnson
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
July 21, 2021 9:57 pm

More like “predictable government incompetence”.

July 21, 2021 7:27 am

Are they even looking at the possibility it was terrorism???

Pauleta
Reply to  Mortimer Zilch
July 21, 2021 8:07 am

My bet is on racism.

MarkW
Reply to  Pauleta
July 21, 2021 11:07 am

It was probably a bunch of rabid right wingers.

Derg
Reply to  MarkW
July 21, 2021 1:01 pm

White supremacists…right wingers are gone

fretslider
July 21, 2021 7:29 am

Heavy rains and severe flooding are forecast… Say nothing.

This will ram home the climate crisis message.

And to an extent and for a time it did.

I would bet much of this is down to EU directives like Natura 2000, and a desire to “rub peoples’ noses in it”.

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Roger Knights
July 21, 2021 7:30 am

I wonder if, as in England a few years ago, some rivers were left undredged for ecological reasons.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Roger Knights
July 21, 2021 9:25 am

Different class of rivers – these are all young river systems in V shaped valleys. Every few years – and this year was merely one of them – they dredge themeslves….

Philip
Reply to  Roger Knights
July 21, 2021 9:29 am

Not to start anything but, not dredging for ecological reasons is lazy ecology. You’d only be protecting species that came with the silt build up and invasive grasses. Hardly native species. Better to have the swifter moving water of a dredged river or canal all round in terms of ecology. Maybe it was more due the ecology of money? 😉😁

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Robert Hanson
Reply to  Philip
July 21, 2021 10:49 am

Nope, there is a EU regulation that discourages dredging, and forbids the long term practice of using the dredged material to enhance the levees along the river bank. Anything dredged has to be sent to a landfill rather than put to use where it’s needed. Much like the California wildfires are made much worse by “ecological” (sic) regulations that forbid the clearing of flammable material from the forest floor, the floods were made much worse due to the undredged river bottoms slowing down the flow of water, causing the rivers to overflow their banks.

Philip
Reply to  Robert Hanson
July 21, 2021 11:14 am

It’s a sad world of nonsensical regulation over the interests of the local inhabitants.

Poha
Reply to  Robert Hanson
July 22, 2021 1:39 pm

Developers re-zoning “old, diverted” riverbeds to “Residential” is still a thing?

Richard Page
Reply to  Philip
July 21, 2021 1:40 pm

“…more due the ecology of money?” No it was more due the ecology of ignorance and inherent stupidity.

Philip
July 21, 2021 7:45 am

If only that 660 year record of flooding resembled a hockey stick… 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Philip
July 21, 2021 11:53 am

Give them some time – “adjustments” will reveal the “stick.”

Tony Sullivan
July 21, 2021 7:59 am

It’s fascinating how (some) of the media are perfectly okay with referencing historical records in regards to weather/climate, but want to conveniently ignore that same data went it doesn’t align with the narrative.

In this particular case, good on the writer for calling a spade a spade.

n.n
Reply to  Tony Sullivan
July 21, 2021 8:17 am

The media, including broadcast, social, and steering [engines] have demonstrated an affinity for handmade tales with “benefits”. Caveat emptor.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  n.n
July 21, 2021 1:57 pm

In the case of the TV licence funded London fake news factory, those organisations had lots of people on the payroll who (like Savile) had loads of “friends with benefits”.

Olen
July 21, 2021 8:11 am

Politicians working on something that is not there and ignoring the danger that exists.

Don Quixote comes to mind attacking inanimate objects thinking he is doing good.

Bruce Cobb
July 21, 2021 8:22 am

Previous floods were just weather, whereas today’s are due to “climate change”.
Just ask Griff.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 21, 2021 8:30 am

LOL. It appears I woke the Griff Monster. Oops.
My bad.

griff
July 21, 2021 8:22 am

Look, they had extremely heavy rainfall, in summer… that was the cause of a huge amount of damage, flooding and loss of life. The warnings might have saved life, but this level of rain would always have caused that level of immense damage and likely and sadly some casualties.

And there is no way that level of rainfall was anything usual – it was clearly in line with the predictions of climate science.

There are criticisms to be made about the response – but here in Watts those are just diversions from the absolute certainty of the severity and cause of this (climate change).

I see it recorded that heavy rainfall in the south of North Rhine-Westphalia and north of Rhineland-Palatinate in Germany produced accumulations which averaged 100 to 150 mm (3.9 to 5.9 in) in 24 hours, equivalent to more than a month’s worth of rain. In Reifferscheid, 207 mm (8.1 in) fell within a nine-hour period while Cologne observed 154 mm (6.1 in) in 24 hours. Some of the affected regions may not have seen rainfall of this magnitude in the last 1,000 years.

I note also the extreme rainfall in China, where records for the rainy season have been exceeded: if I read the reports right, a years rain in days.

You can’t keep ignoring the scale and frequency of extreme weather events. (I can think of 8 in N hemisphere in just last 3 months…)

Ted
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 8:47 am

There are 7.7 billion people one the planet, or 7,700 million. Between wind, rain/snow, drought, heat, and cold, that’s over 38,000 once-a-century extreme events that affect a million people every 100 years. If spread evenly, that’s more than 380 a year. If the last three months had 90 different extreme weather events, it would be below average.

Timo V
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 8:59 am

Central China Flood, 1931. Two million casualties.

https://disasterhistory.org/central-china-flood-1931

Dave Yaussy
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 9:00 am

Griff, I recall that even the IPCC, in their last full report, said there was no sign of extreme weather events being increased due to climate change. Dr. Pielke reports the same. Moreover, there was at least one German town recently flooded that had flood height marked on an old building, showing higher water before CO2 began increasing.

I think you may be wrong about climate change being the cause here.

Archer
Reply to  Dave Yaussy
July 21, 2021 9:16 am

Griff is wrong about everything, either deliberately or through willful ignorance. Everything he says is wrong. If he said the sky was blue, I’d have to poke my head out of the window and make sure.

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Reply to  Archer
July 21, 2021 2:56 pm

I wouldn’t ask griff what time it is, wouldn’t believe his answer.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Krishna Gans
July 21, 2021 10:35 pm

A broken clock is right twice a day. I doubt anything Griff says about anything.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Dave Yaussy
July 21, 2021 12:51 pm

2018 UN IPCC SREX (special report on extreme weather) came to the same conclusion. Griff, from where do you get your information? You can’t even agree with the CliSciFi bible. And your numbers are weather, not climate.

Graemethecat
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 9:16 am

Griff, clueless as ever, shows he does not understand the Normal Distribution. Extreme events like floods and droughts will ALWAYS occur, even in an unchanging climate.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Graemethecat
July 21, 2021 9:36 am

…”Griff, clueless as ever, shows he does not understand”…

There, fixed that for you.

MarkW
Reply to  Graemethecat
July 21, 2021 11:11 am

One thing I’ve noticed amongst most climate change activists.
A complete inability to understand even basic statistics.

Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 9:23 am

It wasn’t the first and not the last heavy rain.
Here it was result of weather patterns and special geographical and geological reasons.
Look for Vb low pressure systems, what that means and the results will be.
Yes, there were exeptions, but not related to human climate.
And you may even find out when digging further, that parts of the towns were built in flood plains.
Is that CC ? NOT at ALL.

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Leo Smith
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 9:34 am

Poor Griff. Look up 1342 griff. there is no way that level of rainfall was anything but usual – it was clearly in line with the historical flooding events.

St. Mary Magdalene’s flood (German: Magdalenenhochwasser) was the largest recorded flood in central Europe with water levels exceeding those of the 2002 European floods. It occurred on and around the feast day of St. Mary Magdalene, 22 July in 1342.

Following the passage of a Genoa low the rivers Rhine, Moselle, Main, Danube, Weser, Werra, Unstrut, Elbe, Vltava and their tributaries inundated large areas. Many towns such as Cologne, Mainz, Frankfurt am Main, Würzburg, Regensburg, Passau and Vienna were seriously damaged. Even the river Eider north of Hamburg flooded the surrounding land. The affected area extended to Carinthia and northern Italy.

It appears that after a prolonged hot and dry period, continuous rainfalls occurred, lasting several consecutive days and amounting to more than half of the mean yearly precipitation. Since the dry soil was unable to absorb such amounts of water, the surface runoff washed away large areas of fertile soil and caused huge inundations destroying houses, mills and bridges. In Würzburg, the then-famous Steinerne Brücke (Stone Bridge) was washed away, and in Cologne it is said that a rowing boat could pass over the city’s fortifications. A precise number of casualties remains unknown, but it is believed that in the Danube area alone, 6,000 people perished. The results of the erosion can still be noticed today. The volume of the eroded soil during this short incident (a few days) is determined to be more than 13 billion metric tons, a volume that is washed away under normal climate conditions over a period of 2,000 years.

Wiki…
Far worse event .

Obviously climate change – in fact it was, It accompanied the start of the Little Ice Age, and the Black Death, after the end of the Mediaeval warm period.

While carbon dioxide levels were utterly stable…

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Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 9:36 am

Griff, without looking it up, who won the World Series in 1926? If you don’t know something with that much publicity, how would you know of a flood in a remote area of Africa that year?

Nigel in California
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 9:38 am

Argument from incredulity. This event is not that incredible.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 10:41 am

Now I know for sure this “griff”entity is a nutter.

Next he will be saying people taking selfies on top of a tall building in the middle of a violent thunderstorm (and getting killed) or standing under a tree in the same conditions is proof that extreme weather is getting more extreme.

We learnt elementary stuff as kids which his generation seems incapable of absorbing.

History, danger, risk, all have to be ANTICIPATED, not cried over when 10s, 100s & 1000s die from sheer human stupidity.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 11:10 am

Not only is that level of rain usual, the records, going back almost 700 years show it.
There are storms like that one almost every year in Germany. They fall in a different place each time.

It really doesn’t matter what you want to believe griff, especially when your beliefs contradict the data.

MrGrimNasty
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 11:45 am

Griff claims of 1000 years for 6″(154mm) of rain – risible.

Some German records:

200mm in 1 hour September 1968.
260mm in 24 hours July 1906.
377mm in 48 hours July 1954.
515mm in 1 week September 1899.
3661mm in 1 year 1944

Similar situation with Chinese claims – a few decades ago millions used to die in Chinese floods – it’s their climate normal, not climate change.

Griff can’t keep ignoring actual facts and history.

Dave Fair
Reply to  MrGrimNasty
July 21, 2021 12:56 pm

Griff can’t keep ignoring actual facts and history.” I’ll bet he can and will.

Abolition Man
Reply to  MrGrimNasty
July 21, 2021 2:33 pm

MGN,
The griffter can’t keep ignoring facts and history?? Whaaaaat!?
That’s all the griffter does! How else do you explain praying for colder weather when you’re “suffering” through an interglacial!? Alarmists are so stupid they are actually rooting for the resumption of glaciation!

beng135
Reply to  MrGrimNasty
July 22, 2021 8:02 am
Redge
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 11:54 am

there is no way that level of rainfall was anything usual – it was clearly in line with the predictions of climate science.

Clearly, it wasn’t usual otherwise it wouldn’t be news, however, history teaches us the flooding wasn’t unusual.

I see it recorded that heavy rainfall…

That may be the case, but you fail to give a reference and show that the heavy rainfall is unusual.

If you have the data to back up your claims, please show, as several people have already shown you by posting images of the 1342 flood etc.

We’re waiting, Griff, mate.

(I won’t hold my breath)

aussiecol
Reply to  griff
July 21, 2021 3:11 pm

”And there is no way that level of rainfall was anything usual – it was clearly in line with the predictions of climate science.”

Look, the German weather authorities revealed it was a once in a hundred year flood griff. Not extraordinary for that area. It was a weather event griff.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
July 22, 2021 8:53 am

“There are criticisms to be made about the response – but here in Watts those are just diversions from the absolute certainty of the severity and cause of this (climate change).”

Got any evidence to back up this claim of human-caused climate change resulting in German flooding?

I’m absolutely certain you don’t have any evidence.

You could prove me wrong, but you won’t, because you can’t. I don’t expect to hear a peep out of you concerning this comment questioning your certainty. I expect silence from you. Will you live up to my expectations?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
July 22, 2021 8:59 am

“I see it recorded that heavy rainfall in the south of North Rhine-Westphalia and north of Rhineland-Palatinate in Germany produced accumulations which averaged 100 to 150 mm (3.9 to 5.9 in) in 24 hours, equivalent to more than a month’s worth of rain. In Reifferscheid, 207 mm (8.1 in) fell within a nine-hour period while Cologne observed 154 mm (6.1 in) in 24 hours. Some of the affected regions may not have seen rainfall of this magnitude in the last 1,000 years.”

Hey, Griff, my little piece of paradise got 5 inches of rain in 24 hours, last week. Does this mean I should not expect a 5-inch rain again for 1,000 years?

A stalled front can produce rain like this. It’s not unusual.

What I’m wondering is why the German people were not warned sufficiently. Don’t the Germans have weather forcasters on their televisions? Here in the United States, it is easy to stay up with what the weather is doing, and when severe weather is expected, you are going to know about it.

If you live in a low-lying area and there is a forecast for 5 inches of rain, you should probably think about getting to higher ground.

Len Werner
July 21, 2021 8:44 am

If geologists could be sued in Italy for failing to warn about the potential for severe earthquake damage, what is the legal structure in Germany that might provide for similar action there?

The failure in predicting Germany’s flooding was orders of magnitude more negligent.

Repeatedly I’ve warned friends and acquaintances that the AGW mantra was insidiously dangerous in that if the concept is wrong, mankind could make some incredibly stupid and dangerous decisions while completely missing correct courses of action. I’ve rarely been so right, despite an acceptable record of evaluating mineral deposits begun over 50 years ago.

MarkW
Reply to  Len Werner
July 21, 2021 11:13 am

The geologists were not sued because they failed to warn. They went on TV and assured everyone that there was no possibility of a quake.

Welcome Delisle
July 21, 2021 9:43 am

In our town of Marquette Mi the local mining company had control of multiple hydroelectric dams along the Dead River. The man whose job it was to take out the slats in the dam gates in anticipation of coming weather went on vacation for the first time travelling far away. He told his boss he needed to be replaced and needed to train his replacement. He was denied a replacement. He went. It rained. Then the upper dam ripped out. Then two more dams ripped out. The mine and the local government tried to claim climate change. Climate change doesn’t cause vacations.

Kenan Meyer
July 21, 2021 10:19 am

How do you know it was negligence or stupidity? What if this has been planned by the psychopath powers that be? Another Fukushima moment. What if the bureaucrats just followed the order of chief green communist commander Merkel?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Kenan Meyer
July 21, 2021 11:00 am

It could still be negligence and stupidity whether it’s intentional or not. Stupidity is the default condition of career politicians and career criminals (and that isn’t the only parallel between the two).

Tim Crome
July 21, 2021 10:31 am

At least one town on the Mosel learning from past floods and built some defences:

https://www.lieser-mosel.de/en/the-flood-protection-dam/

They have experienced almost annual floods of lesser or greater deptgs but they stayed dry this year, despite a local rise in water levels of 7m (23 ft):

https://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/webservices/zeitreihe/visualisierung?ansicht=einzeln&pegelnummer=26500100

Robert of Texas
July 21, 2021 11:04 am

That’s OK…Here in Texas our children will never see snow or freezing rain in their lifetime because of Global Warming. Last February proved this. (/Heavy_Sarcasm)

Graemethecat
Reply to  Robert of Texas
July 22, 2021 2:54 am

Griff will assure us that Global Warming has always predicted more snow and freezing temperatures.

Alec Rawls
July 21, 2021 11:49 am

The eco-commies are confident enough about their near-monopoly control of the media that they welcome any and all disasters, assuming that they will always be able to put the blame on their political enemies/ climate change. In order to “never let a crisis go to waste” they first need crises, the more the better in their eyes.

That assumption can go awry because it is not based on actual calculation. They never look at the actual facts about anything but simply promote whatever narratives seem to at the moment best serve their ambitions for power. They don’t actually know anything or understand anything.

The surprise here is that some media people, even in Germany, seem to care what the truth is. That is so rare now. 99% of the time they only care to provide the most commie-supporting spin possible.

dk_
July 21, 2021 2:36 pm

The fundamental failure is in the self-deceit that government, no matter how well founded or intentioned, can protect anyone from anything. Governments exist for the purpose of securing, expanding, and perpetuating sinecure for a few without more than superficial responsibility.

One wonders where an investigator might find a written enforceable contract by any living member of any government to protect the German, or any people as a whole from any weather event. In fact, I’d bet that there was not even a recorded verbal promise to that effect by anyone now “in charge.”

Laughably, a secular polity can’t even fall back on attributing disaster to acts of God. A marxist socialist government can only blame its people for their own deaths and poverty.

But by all means, throw the bums out in the next election cycle, or better, by recall or special election (guillotine and firing squad being out of style at the moment). Just know that their replacements won’t do any better, and likely much worse, at the next regularly occurring unforseen event.

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John the Econ
July 21, 2021 3:04 pm

“Climate Change” is simultaneously the universal excuse for the abject failure of past Progressive policy, and the justification for even more bad Progressive policy.

Rich T.
July 21, 2021 7:27 pm

Hey Griff check this out. https://joannenova.com.au/2021/07/a-world-protected-by-windmills-in-1717-christmas-floods-in-germany-killed-14000/ Heavy rains, No high C02 levels. No Climate Change to BLAME!!!!!. Here’s good list for you Griff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods_in_Europe. 49 flooding events before CC was even thought of as a excuse.

ren
July 21, 2021 11:00 pm

If the zonal circulation is weak, as it is now, then Central Europe is on the edge of the action of the Atlantic low and the Russian high. During periods of weak solar wind, which is the case now, the jet stream over the Atlantic is too weak to push the Atlantic air masses further east. The stagnation causes downpours over the same area.

ren
Reply to  ren
July 21, 2021 11:50 pm

This situation will occur again on July 24 and 25.

Boris
July 21, 2021 11:46 pm

A Parallel can be seen with the wild fires that are happening in BC Canada this summer. The Premier of BC came out with a statement today that Climate Change is the cause of these wild fires.

At the same time the wise and timely management of these same forests has become non-existent by the same government. Clearing of brush, controlled burns and the stationing of water bombers to react to fires starting in the forests are put aside to bring a “More Environmental” approach to the wild fire problem. The same people who want to fight these reoccurring forest fires environmentally are also the ones who banned water bombers from using a lot of lakes to “To Protect the Fish Species”. There is also a reluctance to use fire retardant chemicals because of the harm they do to the soil until it is too late.

To make matters worse the largest water bomber in the world is sitting idle at Sprout Lake because it can not take water from a large number of lakes due to these regulations to protect the fish population.

So if carbon and CO2 is such a bad thing according to these environmentalists then why is it that EVERY YEAR this same inept BC government is letting these CO2 scrubbing forests go up in flames dumping MILLIONS of TONS of CO2 and carbon down wind. The haze where I live is so bad you can not see a half a kilometer for the last two weeks. We live 1500 KM away downwind from these fires.

The Alberta government just banned cheap thermal coal usage in ALL of our power plants because it generated more CO2 than natural gas would but any savings from that switch for the year is nullified by these forest fires in just one day. Meanwhile our power costs went from an average of 9 cents a KW/HR to 14 cents a KW/HR because we are burning Natural gas. My natural gas price has also jumped up due to the increased demand on the system from $3.85 a gig-joule to $5.85 a gig-joule and this is the low rate for the summer price. They are predicting $15 to $18 a gig-joule during high winter usage.

Sometimes an agenda and propaganda are more important than actually trying to prevent a disaster.

July 22, 2021 1:34 am

“As the chronicles show,”

Eye witness testimony that was not been climate adjusted and you believe it?
People die because of climate science and it is high time that this evil was stopped.

Peter Müller
July 22, 2021 2:46 am

I live in the flood area and can tell you what realy happen: They want to produce more green energy (hydro energy) and filled up all the dams 98% . When the rain came they have no space in the dam and the water overflow all the dams, then the rivers and the towns. First they tried to cover up the real reason for the flood and blamed “climate change” but know they (partly) confess.

https://twitter.com/WDRaktuell/status/1417885443446788105

ren
Reply to  Peter Müller
July 22, 2021 7:12 am

Unfortunately, the forecasts for Germany and Poland are alarming.comment image

ren
Reply to  Peter Müller
July 22, 2021 7:26 am

On July 24th, one low will descend over France, with thunderstorms in western Germany, and another low is already waiting over Iceland and will also go south.comment image

Peter Müller
July 22, 2021 2:50 am

This ist the proof that the biggest flood in germany was the famous 1342 flood, nearly 700 years ago: comment image

Münden_Hochwasserstände_Packhof.jpg
ren
Reply to  Peter Müller
July 22, 2021 10:15 pm

I strongly ask German friends not to underestimate the coming storms. Although there is little rain from the Atlantic, the jet stream will bring moisture from the Mediterranean. Already yesterday night storms occurred in the area of Munich.

DaveS
July 22, 2021 4:38 am
ren
Reply to  DaveS
July 22, 2021 10:12 pm

I strongly ask German friends not to underestimate the coming storms. Although there is little rain from the Atlantic, the jet stream will bring moisture from the Mediterranean. Already yesterday night storms occurred in the area of Munich.

Mickey Reno
July 22, 2021 5:59 am

German stupidity reminds me of American stupidity. The 2011 Missouri River floods were caused when heavier than normal spring rains quickly helped to melt MUCH heavier snowpack in the entire upper basin, and the Army Corps of Engineers failed to reduce the levels in the massive dams during the cold season to make room for the spring flood waters.

The snow pack was SO much higher than normal that year, even if had melted slowly, they could have expected enough melt water to refill the reservoirs, even without higher than normal rainfall. Instead, the whole river valley was inundated and lives were lost, property destroyed, infrastructure lost, all because of their hubris and mismanagement.

Idiocy… complete idiocy.

Michael in Dublin
July 22, 2021 9:59 am

I have just come across a Dutch article (right click on article, select translate into English). The accuracy would have to be checked but it looks credible because it quotes actual sources and names a British hydrologist who was involved with the warning system. Heads should be rolling not a cover up by politicians.

Rampenfonds geplunderd: 83 miljard voor vluchtelingen – Overstromingsslachtoffers krijgen slechts 300 euro!
Disaster fund looted: 83 billion for refugees – Flood victims receive only 300 euros!
https://dissident.one/2021/07/22/16689/

Alexander Vissers
July 22, 2021 11:29 pm

For the record, the Ahr is by no means the northernmost tribituary to the Rhine, there are dozens of rivers ending in the Rhine downstream, this goes for Germany and the Netherlands.

Matthew Sykes
July 23, 2021 1:50 am

They let this catastrophe happen so they could cry ‘climate change’. These people were scarified to an ideology.

ren
July 23, 2021 5:51 am

Thunderstorms are predicted for July 24th in the area of recent flooding in Germany.comment image

ren
July 23, 2021 11:19 pm

Threat of downpours in thunderstorms in western Germany.comment image

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