Commentary by Kip Hansen – 2 June 2021
There is a certain beauty in remembering the great influences of one’s youth. For me, one of those influences was Robert Anson Heinlein who could reasonably be called one of the the world’s greatest writers of science fiction.

His books and stories – which first began to appear in 1939 with the publishing of Life-Line – represented the very best of the space-age hard-science fiction genera of the 20th century. I am older, but not old enough to have read Life-Line in Astounding when it was first published, but I read it twenty years later as a precocious pre-teen-aged boy bent on reading every single science fiction book and every edition of every pulp science fiction magazine that could be found in the main branch of the Los Angeles County Library. By the time I was 15, I had accomplished that dubiously important feat.
As part of that rather mad reading binge, I read everything that Heinlein had written to date, and then read everything he published since then as it became available until his death in 1988. I bet that many of you who were born in the first decade after World War II and went on to study science and engineering read Heinlein as well.
Heinlein was one of the core members of the stable of SciFi writers assembled by John W. Campbell — editor of Astounding which later became Analog Science Fiction — who was responsible for much of the success of the whole genera. Isaac Asimov called Campbell “the most powerful force in science fiction ever” and said the “first ten years of his editorship he dominated the field completely.”
Heinlein himself was often referred to as “the ‘dean of science fiction writers,’ Robert A. Heinlein was one of the leading figures of science fiction’s Golden Age and one of the authors most responsible for establishing the science fiction novel as a publishing category.” [ Keith Booker et al. The Science Fiction Handbook ]
After graduating from the U.S. Naval Academy and serving in the U.S. Navy in the 1930s and was discharged in 1934 because he contracted tuberculosis, undergoing lengthy hospitalization. Living on his naval disability pension, Heinlein turned to writing, selling his first story, Life-Line, to John Campbell at Astounding and the rest is history.
Interestingly, Heinlein was an engineer by training, and spent the years of WWII “as a civilian aeronautical engineer at the Navy Aircraft Materials Center at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Pennsylvania. Heinlein recruited Isaac Asimov and L. Sprague de Camp to also work there. While at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyards, Asimov, Heinlein, and de Camp brainstormed unconventional approaches to kamikaze attacks, such as using sound to detect approaching planes.” [ wiki ]

SciFi fans will know that Asimov and Sprague de Camp were also core authors publishing in Campbell’s Astounding along with two other SciFi greats Theodore Sturgeon and Arthur C. Clarke and, of course, Campbell himself was writing under his own name and several pen names: Don A. Stuart, Karl Van Kampen and Arthur McCann.
Even if you don’t know Heinlein from reading his books, you will have been exposed to his contributions to modern English. You may hear some young pretty Hollywood star/starlet say that they “really grok that”. They’ve made whole movies about “pay it forward”. Engineers or robotics designers will know what a “waldo” is. And you have yourself have called someone a “moonbat” (from the story Space Jockey).
Heinlein’s book, Stranger in a Strange Land, spawned a series of small cult groups based on the social structure described in the book and one incorporated Church whose founder took the ideas in the book way too seriously. In the early 1970s, I personally knew a young man that ran off to join a Stranger cult.
Heinlein wrote and wrote, during his 81-year lifetime:
“The Robert A. Heinlein bibliography includes 32 novels, 59 short stories and 16 collections published during his life. Four films, two TV series, several episodes of a radio series, and a board game derive more or less directly from his work. He wrote a screenplay for one of the films. Heinlein edited an anthology of other writers’ SF short stories.
Three non-fiction books and two poems have been published posthumously. One novel has been published posthumously and another, an unusual collaboration, was published in 2006. Four collections have been published posthumously.
Known pseudonyms include Anson MacDonald (7 times), Lyle Monroe (7), John Riverside (1), Caleb Saunders (1), and Simon York (1). All the works originally attributed to MacDonald, Saunders, Riverside and York, and many of the works originally attributed to Lyle Monroe, were later reissued in various Heinlein collections and attributed to Heinlein.” [ source ]
Heinlein had influence far outside the SciFi world, as did many other SciFi authors. For instance:
“In 1980 Robert Heinlein was a member of the Citizens Advisory Council on National Space Policy, chaired by Jerry Pournelle, which met at the home of SF writer Larry Niven to write space policy papers for the incoming Reagan Administration. Members included such aerospace industry leaders as former astronaut Buzz Aldrin, General Daniel O. Graham, aerospace engineer Max Hunter and North American Rockwell VP for Space Shuttle development George Merrick. Policy recommendations from the Council included ballistic missile defense concepts which were later transformed into what was called the Strategic Defense Initiative, or “Star Wars” as derided by Senator Ted Kennedy. Heinlein assisted with Council contribution to the Reagan “Star Wars” speech of Spring 1983.”
One example of the depth of Heinlein’s reach into our society in general is illustrated by the fictional song “Green Hills of Earth” from the story of the same title — fictionally written by a blind space-going engineer named “Noisy” Rhysling presented as a radiation-blinded, unemployable spaceship engineer crisscrossing the solar system writing and singing songs. The song has verses and fragments of verses attributed to it not only in Heinlein’s own stories over the years, but in the work many other science fiction writers of the day and since. One of the most recent examples shows up in the naming of a crater on the moon:
“The Apollo XV astronauts named a number of craters in their landing area after favorite science fiction stories. Near “Dune” (after the Frank Herbert novel) and “Earthlight” (Arthur C. Clarke) craters was “Rhysling” crater, named after the blind singer of the spaceways in “The Green Hills of Earth.” [ source ]
You can listen to Leonard Nimoy read “The Green Hills of Earth” in the three part YouTube series: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3.
Not everyone is a Heinlein fan. Not everyone liked his politics – I ignored them personally. Not everyone liked his views on social structure and sexuality. If he had written things that everyone would like or lived a life that everyone would approve of, he would not have been one of the greats.
My favorite quote from the master is this:
“There are but two ways of forming an opinion in science. One is the scientific method; the other, the scholastic. One can judge from experiment, or one can blindly accept authority. To the scientific mind, experimental proof is all important, and theory merely a convenience in description, to be junked when it no longer fits. To the academic mind, authority is everything and facts are junked when they do not fit theory laid down by authority” – Robert A. Heinlein in the short story Life-Line.
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I’d like to hear from readers with their thoughts and impressions. Not restricted to Heinlein, there were so many greats in the 1940-1980 SciFi scene.
Why bring up Heinlein today? I friend has been reading my stuff here over the years and sent the final quote after reading my essay on Hurricane Sandy and storm surge damage.
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Heinlein was great, but then I grew up.
Roger ==> My condolences. . . .
Grew old, more likely.
If you lost your interest in Heinlein because you weren’t getting that much from him any more and discovered other authors whose work you found more gripping, that would be a good thing indeed.
Recently re-read Asimov’s longest Novella, “Sucker Bait”. It’s about the perils of over-specialisation and being unable to put together all the pieces from outside one’s own academic silo. Recommended.
However, at one point in the 1950s piece it describes the Greenhouse effect as known then (Asimov calls it the Hothouse effect as he was scientifically literate).
It’s the same as the modern GHG effect except it assumes that plants would not waste such a valuable resources and would hold the world in balance – no catastrophism.
Interesting to see how Hard Science was once common entertainment but is now a great mystery. People who had an interest in science in the 1950s and onward would have known straight off that the AGW thing was unbalanced. And they did.
It’s those who now say “Follow the Science” who never did.
M Courtney ==> Thanks for that . . . . . I had forgotten Asimov’s Sucker Bait.
Never expected this on RAH. Been reading SCi-FI since i was 6 in 65. and haven’t stopped yet. He was one of the best. Hit up the internet archive to find the old issues. https://archive.org/details/pulpmagazinearchive?&sort=-downloads&page=3 Enjoy reading.
Rich T. ==> Thanks for the link. Readers who go to the link will be surprised by the number of bare breasted women that appear on the covers of the pulps — back in the days when such covers would have been visible only in “the back room”.
I read a lot of Sci-Fi. Read both the local and township library. Joined the SFBC. All before 73. Now hit the local used bookstores to find classic SF books. The internet archive. Also the Gutenberg online library. Still go back and reread some books many times. I would need a long paragraph just to list the authors i still read. H Beam Piper’s “Omnilingual”, RAH’ The Moon is a Harsh Mistress”, Pournelle and Niven on “Lucifer’s Hammer”, Asimov “Foundation” series, CJ Cherryh “Chanur”, “Alliance-Union”, “Faded Sun” series. Micheal Crichton “Andromeda Strain”,Just to name a few. One thing i learned was to think for myself, not trust big brother, and keep asking questions. Thanks Kip.
Rich T ==> Glad I could spark some pleasant memories.
I found Andromeda Strain somewhat troubling when I looked up some references in the bibliography and found they were real…
TonyG ==> Yeah, one has to be careful reading SciFi — too much of it is true.
I don’t remember where I read it, yet supposedly NASA astronauts returning to the moon will carry a vial of water, a packing slip and a knife to leave there. This to honor RAH (The Man who Sold the Moon) for his support of and stories inspiring so many to work there and go to the moon and beyond. This post brought the Azmov quote to mind “Today’s science fiction is tomorrow’s science fact”.
This was written 5 years before I was born and speaks to the hope RAH had for humanity. This I Believe – The Heinlein Society
Thanks Kip.I guess I’ll need to re-read my collection for the umpteenth time.
David ==> That’s a great idea . . . se eif you can find a source for the rumor — it would make a good contributionto this comment thread.
The Heinlein Society is a good source of lore.
There is a persistent murmur that Heinlein and Hubbard made a bet :
Is there any evidence for the bet between Robert A. Heinlein and L. Ron Hubbard? – Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchange
It sure seems that all those present made attempts at religion, one well known.
Considering that Climate environmentalism is a religion, maybe they were onto something. Synthetic religion has always been a pastime of Empire going back to Babylon.
i read one of hubbards sci fis
before I had any idea who he was
bit simplisitic and full of holes in plots characters
but then so is his religion
the sci fi is better
You think his books are bad, read the ‘creation myth’ he came up for Scientology. It’s so bad they don’t let you see it until you reach the “completely brainwashed“ level.
From my early youth in the school library Robert A. Heinlein taught me a sense of wonder, how science is done, a feel for engineering, and common sense. I joined the Nashville Science Fiction Club in ’73 and finally saw Heinlein in person at the Chicago WorldCon in ’82. A great man. Thanks for this very appropriate remembrance on Memorial Day.
Now, about my Quest: I was given by Meade Frierson, an Atlanta SF fan, a “basement tape” of Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention singing “The Cool, Green Hills of Earth.” It was really excellent, the best version I’d heard. Somehow in the last 40 years I lost that tape. I’ve learned from sources on the interwebs that a few copies that Meade gave away are still around. I’m hoping there’s a Heinlein fan out there who has a copy and is willing to post it on Youtube.
Ed Hanley ==> Ah, the sorrow of lost treasures. I once owned a second-generation copy (direct copy of originals) of the Dylan Basement tapes, four reels. Gave them away to friends when I “ran off to sea”.
I dod a brief internet search and find no mention — but there is reportedly a Southwinds version — of which I could not find a digital copy online.
READERS: Help us out with this search:
Frank Zappa (Mother of Invention) recording of “The Cool, Green Hills of Earth”.
I always admired Heinlein’s novella “By His Bootstraps” (1941).
Based on a suggestion I made, the name Robheinlein has been given to asteroid No. 6312, that was discovered in 1990 at Palomar Observatory.
Jean Meeus ==> Thank you for checking in here. And for your lifetime of contributions to astronomy in general.
I was aware of the asteroid name, but not its inspiration.
I had a “heated” discussion with our librarian who was removing his books off shelves along with other older sci-fi books.
trying to explain to someone who has the job BUT doesnt really read books… that theyre classics and not just mindless stories as she filled the shelves with bloody inane romances!!
Ive been buying up as many as I can when she clears them
I like greg Bears books a lot and all the ones above, Pournelle Asimov etc
scifi was THE best education I got about how societies work and a whole lot more.
I would say that “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress” is possibly the best of his books. One to compare it with is “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand. – a superb writer as far as that book is concerned. Perhaps not so much for the rest of her output.
Both books on the same theme – Earth government gone totally authoritative, and civilization saved by rebels. Long live SF.
One of my fav’s as well.
Don’t forget her shorter work ‘Anthem’ similarly about a dystopian future. It was my intro to her philosophy and how to take a stand by seeing and acting on truth.
TANSTAAFL
norman ==> And there still ain’t.
Who can name the authors and titles of the three books that started …
1. Who is John Gault?
2. Bill never knew that sex was the cause of it all, but if he hadn’t been staring at the lily white, and wine barrel wide, backside of Mary Lou Caliphigian …
3. Man, said Tarrle, is an endangered spices.
I had no problems with the first two, but had to look up the third.
How about this quote from one of my favourites:
His followers called him Mahasamatman and said he was a god. He preferred to drop the Maha- and the –atman, however, and called himself Sam. He never claimed to be a god, but then he never claimed not to be a god.
Lord of Light
I recently learned that there was still one Zelazny book I hadn’t read: found Bridge of Ashes in a double-volume with Today We Choose Faces.
The physics of the bombardment of the earth with rocks, or grain barges was pretty sciencey too.
oz ==> The names of the greats of SciFi just keep coming. And, I agree, Greg Bear belongs on the list.
I have a few librarians in my social circle. The policy is apparently that they are a ‘Lending Service’ and not an ‘Archive’.
They stock what they believe their users currently want to borrow and read.
Sigh 🙁
That’s a sad development. The profession has been corrupted like so many others.
Craig ==> Librarians are a rare breed in the United States. They have the American Library Assoc. which promotes the idea “No one can decide what we shelve except us Professional Librarians. . . .we own the libraries we work at.”
That’s not true of course, the PUBLIC owns public libraries and schools and school districts, or the parents of the children attending, own school libraries.
Most US libraries are FULL and must have room for all the most popular junk being pumped out by teams of authors using a single “best selling” name.
I was never that taken with Heinlein – I found him too simplistic. I liked things to be as accurate as possible, and to have the implications worked out as comprehensively as possible.
Blish was capable, not only of giving you the maths behind the FTL interstellar drives which he invented, but also that behind corresponding alien craft. You learn about the different chemical reactions of water-ice phases under high pressure on Jupiter, and the cutting techniques of gravity-polarised explosives – he invented the term ‘gas giants’ for the large planets, and ‘drones’ for remote surveillance vehicles – terms which are used today. You swing from the details of selective mitosis and tectogenesis in adapting human bodies for life in other environments to the issues of Catholic Doctrine and Canon Law with regard to alien life-forms…
But his most prescient prediction, in his Spenglerian ‘Cities in Flight’ series was the collapse of Western Culture into an oppressive official world government – something we are witnessing at the moment. From the 1950s, he predicted the restriction of scientific thought by politics at around 2013, and the complete ‘Bureaucratic State’ by 2105. I wonder whether his dates might be a little too optimistic…
dodgy ==> James Blish — yet another of the giants. He married Virginia Kidd, who was an author, editor and literary agent — helped many of the early female SciFi authors get a start.
But who invented the infinite improbability drive?
Thomas ==> One can never tell – – – it is to improbable.
No one. It just popped into existence because it was improbable.
It created itself as that was the most improbable possibility.
Kip,
Heinlein’s “The Notebooks of Lazarus Long” (contained in Time Enough For Love) provided a formative, lifelong weltanschauung back in the day when I was an adolescent struggling to reconcile religious dogma with observed reality.
It is no exaggeration to say that Robert A. Heinlein (along with H. L. Mencken and Richard Dawkins) kept me from falling victim to the blandishments of false prophets.
That trio managed to at least partially offset the pernicious influence of religion, delusional pedagogues and the culture of guilt they sought to impose as a means of control.
Curiously, I was not (and have never been) a reader of science fiction. It was pure serendipity that Heinlein’s book Time Enough For Love found its way into my hands.
John Garrett ==> Appreciate your point, but all great men (and women) have odd blind spots. Heinlein was not one for the established religions of his day (or political parties or sexual mores) but he had a distinctly spiritual side and leaned towards the existence of the human spirit as separate from the human mortal body.
Kip, Great post! I read all of Heinlein as a kid also, some from a couple of Kansas libraries and some I bought. He was a huge influence in my life.
Andy ==> The lesson here — and I suspected it before I wrote this commentary — is that many of the good clear minds of today have had similar influences growing up. I seem to have been right.
Kip,
Interesting observation there. I think I’ve seen much the same, and even have broken through some barriers with suggested readings. One particularly useful tool for busting through mental walls is Lucifer’s Hammer. It’s a face-punch of reality to any mind vaguely open.
ToinyG ==> Lucifer’s Hammer — more than a classic.
I too read everything of Heinlein’s that I could, and retired in 1995 as a Nuclear Shift Test Engineer testing submarine reactors. I have visited his Santa Cruz mountains property.
ThanQ for the paean well deserved.
Doug ==> ah yes, Bonny Doon. I had a “favorite girl” who attended UC Santa Cruz while I was at UC Santa Barbara. entailed a lot of driving up the coast and finding places to camp for the weekend — including Boony Doon.
Did you ever make your way to Loch Lomond? I used spend weekends fishing there for stocked rainbows and camping at various sites in the redwoods!
Ab Man => Oh, yes, Lock Lomond, the redwoods, all over — both north from Santa Cruz and south from Santa Cruz — all the way down California State Hiway 1 through San Luis Obispo to Ventura.
“Robert Anson Heinlein who could reasonably be called one of the the world’s greatest writers of science fiction.”
He’s definitely on my list too. However, owing to a stubborn persistence in shaping public policy I have to give first prize to Michael E. Mann and his novel treatment of temperature reconstructions The Hockey Stick.
Heinlein is definitely in the top tier for science fiction. Mann is a writer of fantasy fiction, however. One should try not to mix the 2 genre’s
I liked Heinlein, particularly his early BEM stuff and hard science like ‘The Roads Must Roll’, but it was A. E. Van Vogt that really sparked my love of the genre. Read ‘Voyage of the Space Beagle’ and tell me that’s not where Roddenberry got his plot for Star Trek. Another seminal book for me on the ‘soft’ SF side was ‘Anthem’ by Ann Rand, her simplest and perhaps most powerful work. But it all started in the mid fifties when I read every Tim Corbett (Space Cadet) and Tom Swift the school library had.
Ok, so I didn’t imagine Tom Corbett!
I only ever read the first book. Kept looking for the rest but could never find them
Taylor ==> eGads! How could I have left A E van Vogt off my partial (very partial apparently) list.
The Voyage of the Space Beagle has always been a personal favorite.
Kip, I learned “There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch” from The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. Great book even without that line – the idea of someone tossing off boulders from the ultimate high ground shook me a little as a kid!
TANSTAAFL !!
“Throwing rocks” alluded to in The Expanse – that was a nice nod to Heinlein.
I agree! While currently re-reading most of Heinlein’s work and watching The Expanse, I find I can’t swing a quantum-enchanted cat without hitting something Heinleinian in that show. There’s also a strong plot-theft of “Orphans of The Sky” in an episode of “The Orville”.
I’ve also named one of my KSP spaceship creations “The Heinliner”.
A lot of the Expanse is Heinlen-esque, especially the Belter culture and lingo. It’s quite obvious to me Corey was strongly influenced by classic SF.
Kip, we’re rewatching from the start before picking up season 4. Just as enjoyable second time around.
TonyG ==> Have you noticed that if you want reasonably good entertainment, you have to turn to the older shows.
Not that The Expanse is that old, it is just rare to have a good new show. Though I like the Disney Mandalorian.
TonyG ==> I’m not sure I have watched all of the Expanse series — just the first season or two.
Matthew ==> Throwing rocks down the gravity well.
“The Moon is a Harsh Mistress” led, some believe, to the idea of militarizing the Moon and thus partially to The Space Race
Asimov’s planet Solera seems to becoming true with it’s video conferencing and isolation.
When my daughter was young she did not score well on reading comprehension tests. I was told to get her to read, anything. I introduced her to Asimov and the Robot series. She loved those stories and we would have fun talking about them which gave us a special connection. The act of reading the written word seems simple but it worked. I also believe that her interest in linguistics and human migration was because of those stories.
Tom ==> It has always been my wife’s and my educational plan for our children to FIRST and FOREMOST help them become life-long readers and free-thinkers. Those who can read and comprehend can learn anything they need or want to know.
You did good!
Tom,
I read all of Asimov’s Robot and Foundation series.
It wasn’t just the isolation, it was the mask wearing, with gloves and ear plugs that the Spacers wore when around Earthlings. The reliance on technology robots. The lead human detective Baley, predicted it would lead to decline and the Spacers wouldn’t survive. Eventually in the Foundation books they came back and found them all deserted or ruined. Seemed like he had the pulse of how humans really act.
Very good article. I agree. One of the greats. I did not like everything he wrote, but Moon is a Harsh Mistress is an all time classic.
James ==> Harsh Mistress is certainly that.
I don’t like every offering, even from my favorite authors, SciFi or other literary forms — but when they are good, they are very very good!
About Reagan’s Star Wars speech. In about early 1984 we had a visiting scientist from MIT at the observatory who told a little story. It was about a team working on one of the orbiting X-ray observatories. These satellites had particle detectors to be able to distinguish between photons (the X-rays) and cosmic ray events. They had done an analysis of this background signal and had found an unexpected source of fast particles and determined that actually that source was local and appeared to be in orbit. Convinced they had discovered a new phenomenon they had written a little research note for a well known science journal. However, just when they wanted to submit the paper there came from the Pentagon a cryptic message to the effect that, yes the analysis looked correct but it would be unwise to try getting it published.
Reagan had not long before given his speech and was widely ridiculed about the whole concept. Learned professors declared it pie in the sky, politicians fell over each other to make hay. But to us that little story meant that in spite of the learned professors someone was already testing up there, or at least doing some feasibility experiments.
That reminds me of the guy who wrote a short sci-fi story and had the feds show up at his door–he had imagined the atom bomb rather precisely and the year was 1944 or possibly early 1945. Sorry at age 82 the names don’t come to mind as readily.
The writer was Cleve Cartmill and the story was in the March 1944 issue of Astounding. Campbell helped him do the research which allowed him to refer to isotopes, etc. Cartmill was investigated but the FBI concluded that everything he wrote was in fact to be found in unclassified papers. He was, however, asked to refrain from writing anything more on the subject.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadline_(science_fiction_story)
Lance ==> Thanks for digging up the facts of the case — great story.
Ed ==> And today? What’s up there doing what? (Besides Space X et al.)
Perhaps the hope was that The Soviet Union would also detect these anomalous particles and put the pieces together. Part of the game was tricking the other fellow into spending money to counter something he thought you had, after all.
Being the jingoistic cretin that I am Starship Troopers messages of personal responsibility and duty left lasting impressions on me. That didn’t mean I always cut my hair but whatever I committed to I accomplished. Thanks RAH.
Medic!
Watch Sargon of Akkad’s brilliant deconstruction of the movie.
https://youtu.be/kVpYvV0O7uI
John Dueker ==> Heinlein had gifts for anyone willing to hear.
Robert Heinlein is one of my favorite SciFi writers… but not about climate change… this belongs somewhere else besides WUWT? I have followed, and contributed articles to, WUWT for many years because it was the leading website / blog about the real science of climate change…. ?
“for many years”
WUWT has always said “News and commentary on puzzling things in life, nature, science, weather, climate change, technology, and recent news by Anthony Watts”, it’s never been limited to only climate.
TonyG ==> The current masthead reads: “The world’s most viewed site on global warming and climate change”.
New readers might not know the old masthead.
Danley Wolfe ==> Quite right — this is not about Climate Change, Global Warming or the Climate Emergency. The beauty of WUWT is that it is a community of people from all walks of life, from places all around the world, who have real lives and real interests and have curious mostly open minds.
I have written maybe two hundred essays, opinion columns, and hard science pieces for this site over the years — and many of them are not about CliSci or AGW.
The original masthead for Watt’s Up With That had a line “Commentary on puzzling things in life, nature, science, weather, climate change, technology, and recent news by Anthony Watts”. I still write here to that mandate.
Read the comments to this commentary from the top and see the high level of interest in the subject from many of the readers here — not as you you suspect, from those that comment under almost every offering here — but from a wide and diverse set of readers who read here regularly, but usually don’t participate in he conversation.
To my eternal regret I missed an opportunity to meet both Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov but I later met Sprague DeCamp and his wonderful wife Katherine along with a number of other writers. Take a hint kids. Never pass pass an opportunity to meet such people. You will seldom be disappointed.
Harlan Ellison said that science fiction is not about the future but rather the present set in a fiction setting. The interesting thing is that one can read these books and novels to analyze the technology of the day. Take a look at Heinlein’s “Rolling Stones” and analyze how they worked with atomic power. It is a mistake to analyze such works using contemporary morals and mores. They were not written now. They were written then and can be used to analyze the society then.
Jay Dee ==> Wise words — I have skipped concerts and book reading that I kick myself for missing to this day.
All forms of literature should be read from the proper perspectives of Time and Culture — thanks for reminding the readers here.
The competent man
“Specialization is for insects” I’ve made big in-roads into the list of skills
Big fan, but mostly of Heinlein’s earlier work.
My first SF book was Cats Eye by Andre Norton. That kicked off a decades long reading spree of SF. Most if not all writers mentioned plus Edgar Rice Boroughs’ John Carter.
Favorite RAH book is Farnham’s Freehold. His case for why a knife is better than a gun in a survival situation was enhanced when I went through survival training in the service.
I have changed a diaper, but until I pilot a star ship I won’t be able to live up to my favorite Lazarus Long saying.
mkelly ==> Andre Norton — one of the best of the crop of female SciFi writers of the period. Marvelous – read everything but the every most recent stuff.
For Our Readers:
The Lazarus Long quote, in full:
“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.”
― Robert A. Heinlein
Kip,
Yes, I would have to say Niven impacted me the most, specifically the character Dan Forester in Lucifer’s Hammer. He taught me that the most valuable thing to stockpile in case of an apocalypse is knowledge. Which is useful in its own right even without such a disaster.
TonyG ==> I have a very deep belief that knowledge, of all sorts, is, outside of our family relationships, the most precious commodity. All kinds of knowledge.
I also hold that believing something that is false (not in accordance with Reality) is mentally, emotionally and spiritually harmful.