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Climate change: how bad could the future be if we do nothing?

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Professor Mark Maslin of UCL’s sermon to the climate believers, promising fire, floods, famine and devastation unless they all make good on their commitments to cut their carbon footprints, and cut back on meat consumption.

Climate change: how bad could the future be if we do nothing?

May 6, 2021 10.59pm AEST
Mark Maslin
Professor of Earth System Science, UCL

Year 2100: the nightmare scenario

The 21st century draws to a close without action having been taken to prevent climate change. Global temperatures have risen by over 4°C. In many countries, summer temperatures persistently stay above 40°C. Heatwaves with temperatures as high as 50°C have become common in tropical countries.

Every summer, wildfires rage across every continent except Antarctica, creating plumes of acrid smoke that make breathing outdoors unbearable, causing an annual health crisis. 

Ocean temperatures have risen dramatically. After repeated bleaching events, Australia’s Great Barrier Reef has been officially declared dead.

Frequent and prolonged droughts torment vast swathes of the Earth’s land. The deserts of the world have expanded, displacing many millions of people. Around 3.5 billion live in areas where water demand exceeds what’s available.

Many coastal and river areas are regularly flooded, including the Nile Delta, the Rhine valley and Thailand. Over 20% of Bangladesh is permanently under water.

Winter storms are more energetic and unleash more water, causing widespread wind damage and flooding each year.

Read more: https://theconversation.com/climate-change-how-bad-could-the-future-be-if-we-do-nothing-159665

A few questions Professor.

  1. If wildfires rage across all the parched continents, what exactly will they be burning? I mean sure, you could imagine one or two superfires scorching the land, but after a few years of this there would be nothing left to burn. Of course, it is possible the survivors of the first few superfires might cut some firebreaks or perform some forestry management before they lose everything.
  2. If we have more energetic winter storms, how can we also have extreme summer droughts? I know we’re talking about nature’s wrath, but will people in 2100 have forgotten how to build reservoirs?
  3. If some areas are flooded and others left dry, will people in 2100 have forgotten how to build large water pipes?
  4. Regarding the ocean warming you predict, why will less than a century achieve what the entire Holocene has so far failed to deliver? The ocean depths are still near freezing, even in the tropics, because there has not been enough time to warm the ocean since the end of the last ice age, over 12,000 years ago. How will a few degrees of additional global warming over a period of less than a century cause a rapid and radical change to the overall temperature of the ocean?
  5. If the oceans do warm, how can they also become more acidic? Warm water expels dissolved CO2, so the dissolved CO2 content of seawater will fall if the water warms significantly, even if atmospheric CO2 rises.

Of course, none of these predictions are testable in any meaningful sense. Most of us will have long since died of old age, before the year 2100.

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Petit_Barde
May 6, 2021 2:14 pm

“Climate change : how bad could the future be if we do nothing?”
We have nothing to do with climate and we’ll all die anyway.

GoatGuy
Reply to  Petit_Barde
May 6, 2021 3:20 pm

Thing is, the real (as in forehead-banging) conundrum — which is a gentle way of saying ‘unanswered problem’ — is how egregiously persistent the rise in CO₂ is, regardless of all the ballyhooed progress made by a few Big Countries in attaining their Paris Accord IPCC greenhouse gas reduction goals in the last, oh, 20+ years.  

America, as a for-instance, has merrily stabilized-or-reduced its CO₂ output, its methane leaks, its exotic hydrocarbons and fluorocarbon emissions, as well as its SO₂ (remarkably effectively), its NOₓ emissions and all the rest; so has much of Europe.  

That notwithstanding, it looks like CO₂ at the pristine observing station atop Mt. Moana Loa is registering ever more CO₂ in the atmosphere, seemingly regardless of all the massive action taken by these first world leader countries.  

Now then, why might that be?

Patently obvious is that China and India, and Africa, and Central/South America, the Indonesian Archipelago, and f-all everyone else is doing SQUAT to meaningfully reduce emissions as they whine about being 3rd world status, and needed time to ‘catch up’ CO₂ wise.  

IT is a Shakespearian Farce, if ever there was a modern one. 

The inmates are in charge of the Prison.

Lord help us.

No one else really will.

⋅-⋅-⋅ Just saying, ⋅-⋅-⋅
⋅-=≡ GoatGuy ✓ ≡=-⋅

DMA
Reply to  GoatGuy
May 6, 2021 3:56 pm

The rise in CO2 is mostly natural and humans only add a few % ( Climate Miracle by Ed Berry). Add to that the extra CO2 in the atmosphere has almost no additional warming because the CO2 spectrum is near saturation. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA1zUW4uOSw) about minute 26-29

Bill Powers
Reply to  GoatGuy
May 7, 2021 8:31 am

the propagandists, have tricked you into making their “CO2” argument relevant GG.

The UN formed the IPCC in 1988 to find an adverse link between Man and his environment. They say “you get what you pay for” and the 1st World Order Governments were offering a lot of money for a Control Point to manage the planets burgeoning population. A popular concern thanks, in no small part, to Paul Ehrlich’s best selling science fiction “The Population Bomb” published 20 years earlier.

On the heals of the late 70’s scientific predictions of the “Coming Ice Age” this mostly bureaucratic, Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change, body noticed that the global surface temperatures were improving post failed hypothesis of the “ICE AGE”.

Now ice core samples tell us that CO2 increases have followed warming due to natural variability of the climate over millennium. So Eureka, the IPCC had their trigger point! They even doctored their report to erroneously state that the ice samples indicted that CO2 increases preceded warming. A bold intentional but necessary lie. If you need to hoodwink the worlds great unwashed population.

We were to believe that Carbon Dioxide, an element that was measuring increases of 200 parts per MILLION, was the doomsday catalyst. They needed us to believe this and they had organized their propaganda to be managed through our major universities, the New York Times, ABNBCBS network news, PBS, and the new upstart 24/7 cable news CNN, to provide the necessary hobgoblin reporting for our bureaucratic state to menace us with.

Now today they have added more cable news and social media to beat their drum controlling 98% of the message boards. Agree and you are a science believer. You get a lollipop and a sticker with that vaccination shot telling the world that “Yes you believe and you belong.” Disagree and you get cancelled as a, wait for it, science denier, whatever the heck that is. Most certainly a 1st cousin to racists and bigots and [pick one]phobes.

We wake up one day and find ourselves arguing about a truly insignificant element, carbon dioxide, as if it were actually triggering global surface temperatures because it increased from .0002 to .0004 of our atmosphere and if we all don’t join hands across the globe and stop using fossil fuel for life sustaining energy, in order to freeze CO2, as if there was some magic thermostat, at current insignificant levels, we will all die.

Poppy Cock! stop letting them trick you into this nonsensical debate. the climate changes period, end of sentence, as Barack Obama liked to say. Always has always will and if the planet decides to sluff us homo sapiens like so much dead skin there is nothing we can do about it. Best to use fossil fuels to keep us comfortable while we wait for that inevitable day. Just bet the world isn’t coming to an end because we do. CO2 or no.

Mr.
Reply to  Petit_Barde
May 6, 2021 4:04 pm

Climate change: how bad could the future be if we do nothing?

Climate change: how bad could the future be if we do nothing what alarmists want ?

John Galt III
Reply to  Mr.
May 6, 2021 6:03 pm

The Ecofascist movement is composed of totalitarians who just want power and money and they want us dead. They hate mankind and climate is merely a useful tool. That is all. Nothing else. That’s not my opinion that is Greenpeace founder, Patrick Moore’s opinion. Read him

If they gave a shit they would be in favor of nuclear power but they oppose it. If they gave shit they would be outside all the Silicon Valley billionaire homes protesting the 25,000 square foot houses and the millions of gallons of aviation fuel these jokers use in their Gulfstream 5’s but you never see them there.

They are control freaks and in 1933 they would have eagerly signed up for the Geheime Staatspolizei. They are evil

Dennis
Reply to  John Galt III
May 7, 2021 5:04 am

Beware of: Build Back Better.

In the future of the globalist billionaires we will own nothing, have no assets and they will control our lives. That is their objective.

Marxist socialism, them and us, they would be our masters.

Tom Halla
May 6, 2021 2:16 pm

Yet another disaster scenario. He does seem to be playing off RCP8.5, which is “borderline impossible” according to Judith Curry.

iflyjetzzz
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 6, 2021 2:32 pm

Judith Curry lost all respect I had for her years ago when she stated that temperature adjustments were insignificant. They’re not insignificant, as can be seen by comparing datasets. The only thing that adjustments accomplish is inserting confirmation bias to the data.

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Mr.
Reply to  iflyjetzzz
May 6, 2021 4:07 pm

The only thing that adjustments accomplish is inserting confirmation bias to the data.

No, the adjustments are to make reality correct, and therefore in precise alignment with the models.

iflyjetzzz
Reply to  Mr.
May 6, 2021 5:28 pm

Ah, my bad. They’re to make real world data align with theoretical models.

Those adjustments to real world data are why I don’t view climate studies as anything close to science. Altering real world data to fit models produces garbage results. GIGO.

Robert Austin
May 6, 2021 2:20 pm

Just another “disgrace to the profession”.

Richard Page
Reply to  Robert Austin
May 6, 2021 5:29 pm

I think this is how the modern University Professor get’s recognition in his/her field – it’s not just about peer reviewed papers anymore, it’s about getting quoted in online articles – but only the right sort of quotes and only the right sort of online sites. In an age when doing a Google search is more relevant than doing any other research about a university or course tutor, he’s probably bringing in plenty of cash for his university. It’s a disgusting scam but I guess it works for them.

Climate believer
Reply to  Robert Austin
May 7, 2021 12:43 am

Yes, he’s not a scientist, he’s a complete far left activist that has no shame in using science as camouflage to spout his cataclysmic lies about the state of the planet.

The fact that the guy is approved and promoted in the scientific community is just more proof of the corruption that festers in that world today.

A very dishonest man.

Check out more of his shocking activism here:

https://theconversation.com/the-five-corrupt-pillars-of-climate-change-denial-122893

DaveS
Reply to  Climate believer
May 7, 2021 4:29 am

Your link makes interesting reading. Hard to keep a straight face, though, beyond his ‘[St Greta’s] merely telling the scientific truth’ comment. I

leitmotif
May 6, 2021 2:33 pm

If the temperature reaches Fahrenheit 451 we could be in bother.

Don’t read newspapers on park benches.

Russell Johnson
May 6, 2021 3:00 pm

CLIMATE CHANGE:

IT DOESN’T MATTER how much you stir shit with a stick it’s still shit.

valleyboy
Reply to  Russell Johnson
May 7, 2021 4:40 am

Just make sure you get the “correct:” end of the stick?

Stan Sexton
May 6, 2021 3:02 pm

Some of those Wildfires are Pyroterrorism. Look that up on Google.

Frank from NoVA
May 6, 2021 3:02 pm

Forgive my ignorance, what is UCL?

GoatGuy
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
May 6, 2021 3:11 pm

University College, London. Researching their website, it is almost nowhere to be found, except at the very bottom of the Alumni page. Seems like they’ve branded (as in burned to their left buttock) the UCL as their sigel. I thought only prep-check Americans were so into opaque brands. Guess the Londoners are just as, if not more obfuscated brand conscious. LOL!

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  GoatGuy
May 6, 2021 3:33 pm

Thank you. They do have an impressive web site and appear to be on top of the climate emergency. Here’s a few words from their heroic effort to save us from the dangers of marine transportation:

“The institute’s analysis of global shipping emissions was also presented to the United Nations International Maritime Organisation, showing the full extent of the shipping emissions challenge for the first time and setting a framework for future discussions on regulating CO2 emissions.

UCL’s research strengthened calls for a quantifiable and ambitious target to reduce shipping emissions. It has improved public awareness of the impact of shipping and the role shipping plays in modern life, carrying our goods around the world.”

Mr.
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
May 6, 2021 5:26 pm

Frank, you need to finish your comments with the “/sarc” tag.

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Mr.
May 6, 2021 8:34 pm

Good tip, thanks.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
May 6, 2021 8:22 pm

Where’s the money shot Frank?

How much did their grants expand?

That’s the goal by which they and we judge

Rory Forbes
May 6, 2021 3:15 pm

From what I can see, your 5 questions are just impertinent. You’re not getting into the spirit of the thing.

tygrus
May 6, 2021 3:27 pm

If you do something or nothing .. you still gonna die (a song by “The Old Dogs”) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdEoputkE98

Any change we can make now will not be measurable (how many 0.1C) by the end of the century and still look like natural variation.

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B Clarke
May 6, 2021 3:31 pm

The 21st century draws to a close without action having been taken to prevent climate change. Global temperatures have risen by over 4°C. In many countries, summer temperatures persistently stay above 40°C. Heatwaves with temperatures as high as 50°C have become common in tropical countries.”

40 years they have been crying we are all going to burn ,almost straight away it was claimed, no more snow, temperature rise by 2012 will severely impact humans, the ice caps will have melted, none of these predictions have come to pass, yet co2 continues to rise and what we are actually seeing is cooling, co2 seems to have no effect on climate natural events ( la nina) so no linear warming , we have seen a new religion born , the climate church with hysterical mass media promoting, you must stop eating meat, turn the heat down, don’t drive( unless your fabulously wealthy) turn your farms over to weeds or trees, such is the sacrifice we must make according to the climate church. And the coruption of the science’s through government and the climate church pulling the strings behind closed doors.

David Dibbell
May 6, 2021 3:35 pm

In support of the Doing Nothing option, I note that it has been the most thoroughly tested approach for at least a century and a half. Results: A perfectly fine climate; amazing living conditions with plentiful, affordable electricity and fuels for more and more people. It would be a shame to deny those benefits to those who still lack them.

Richard Page
Reply to  David Dibbell
May 6, 2021 5:12 pm

No matter how good it is, there will always be an extreme minority that feel the need to wear hair shirts and ashes; mainly attention-seekers and those that get off on self-hatred.

David Dibbell
Reply to  Richard Page
May 7, 2021 3:09 am

It is indeed stunning that the market demand for doom and fear is so persistent. You would think by now that folks would get tired of being told what a bad species we are. But there is still a vocal audience insisting on it. I say to them, “Get a grip. The planet will be fine.”

dk_
May 6, 2021 3:36 pm

Ocean temperatures have risen dramatically. After repeated bleaching events, Australia’s Great Barrier Reef has been officially declared dead.”

  • Ocean temperatures may have risen slightly, and regionally.
  • Bleaching events turn out to be natural variation, and nothing to do with drinking clorox.
  • so, not repeated, but cyclical, and idiosyncratic to each reef
  • Some, and not all, GBR reef segments were bleached, briefly, then have become unbleached.
  • Officially declared by a non-official, who estimated instances once, from an aircraft, and whose results were never verified or validated, and who has since been shown to have falsified the data. Individual instances of specific reefs that were “declared” dead were proven to be false by repeated, documented ground survey.
  • Turns out that none of it has much at all to do with temperature, except a little bit of warmthmay be found to help the un-bleaching part of the process.

And, Maslin, you dolt, even a displaced aging country hoosier knows that the GBR isn’t one big reef. Ah used to look at all them pitchers in nashunul geografik.

Okay, it was supposed to be future fiction, not past tense, but like a lot of con men and shysters, he wrote it phrased to make it seem inevitable and established fact. This is a persuasion technique used in sales, by religious fanatics and by cultists, as well as frauds and politicians trying to make a buck. This is faith, not science, and propaganda, and intimidation. Still, Maslin is an idiot, but is he stupid like a fox?

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Richard Page
Reply to  dk_
May 6, 2021 6:14 pm

Tell you what, just try this as a bit of an experiment – Google search Professor Mark Maslin, UCL then tell me how big an online footprint he has? If donors see that online then they might be more inclined to fund UCL than Durham University, for example. Frankly, it doesn’t really matter what gibberish he’s spouting as long as it’s fairly coherent and raises both his profile and his universities. It’s scams and con games all the way down, I’m afraid.

dk_
Reply to  Richard Page
May 6, 2021 10:13 pm

As a high-ranking professor in his University department, my Uncle complained years ago that his primary job was to raise funds for the department, that he had to spend his own department budget to travel to “sell” the idea of endowments for grants, which he and his assistant grad students had to write. If he was successful in getting the endowment, the University kept half and the department kept 40%, leaving him like 10% to fulfill the grant project, but little time to do so, since he was supposed to be out getting more money. As a result, he got prime authorship, along with their doctoral advisors, on the productions of grad students who he’d rarely met.
I will leave the university, my Uncle, and his department and field anonymous, as I don’t have their permissions to release this private comment.
Suffice it to say that I later found this sort of practice to be the case across many state Universities in many science, business and art subject areas. My impession is that it is still standard across North America, and possibly in Europe.
I agree that reputation is everything, and suggest that there are probably many financial and professional reasons for it. But this should also make it more important that these individuals cannot publically make nonsensical public statements, and be called on it when they do.
Alinsky’s Rule #5 applies to idiots with diplomas, too.

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Richard Page
Reply to  dk_
May 7, 2021 12:59 pm

I mentioned this point in regards to politicians some while ago, but I think the same should hold for anyone making public pronouncements from a perceived position of influence. There are no consequences to what these people are saying – if people were held accountable for what they say and their points were held up for analysis, wild bullsh!t might be somewhat rarer.

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philincalifornia
May 6, 2021 3:42 pm

Yep, that March and April UAH data certainly got the climate liars out to lie harder.

Is there anything this prostitute says that isn’t a lie?

Are we the only ones that read this shite because we have fun taking the piss out of it.

…. now there’s a mixed metaphor.

B Clarke
Reply to  philincalifornia
May 6, 2021 3:55 pm

You mean mark mailin’s jolly , no doubt it will do the rounds in like minded academia, possibly sounds bites might be seen in more general rags. Every one i mention uahv6 have never come across it, never heard of it and don’t Google it even though its just four letters and a number.

Remember ” the science is settled ” there is no debate.

philincalifornia
Reply to  B Clarke
May 6, 2021 6:23 pm

Yeah, I noticed it was published at the Conversation. I’m assuming that’s a libtard site. I don’t really know, because I take great steps to make my head a libtard-free zone.

Lrp
Reply to  philincalifornia
May 6, 2021 7:18 pm

The Conversation is like the communist manifesto

PCman999
Reply to  philincalifornia
May 7, 2021 11:40 pm

“Yep, that March and April UAH data certainly got the climate liars out to lie harder.” … exactly that, the green propaganda machine, i.e. all main stream media, has been going full loud and stupid mode with the climate emergency klaxon/siren. The more that climate facts trickle out to people (Earth has greened an extra 15-20% or gently warmed by ~1°C in the past 1/2 decade, and quality of life is way up and poverty way down) the more the econazis come out with contrived articles trying to show “the end is near”.

James F. Evans
May 6, 2021 3:52 pm

The future is good if we do nothing.

Hoyt Clagwell
Reply to  James F. Evans
May 6, 2021 7:00 pm

Yeah, but what about Mark Maslin’s future? I think that’s what Maslin is worried about more than anything.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
May 6, 2021 7:06 pm

Yep, a lot of posters on here use phrases like “radical Marxist” and “one world global government”. No, I think you have it right. London is an expensive city.

taxed
May 6, 2021 3:56 pm

Runaway global warming, l don’t think so.
Not while the jet stream remains in its current state.The global climate is going to be hard pushed to reach into El Nino this year while the jet stream is in LIA mode.

Cheshire Red
May 6, 2021 4:15 pm

Professional claptrap from the so-called ‘professor’. The guy should be struck off for producing such willfully misleading bilge.

Richard Page
Reply to  Cheshire Red
May 6, 2021 6:17 pm

Should be, but never will be. In fact he’ll probably be congratulated for his work within the echo chamber of academia.

gbaikie
May 6, 2021 4:17 pm

Earth has been in a Ice Age for 34 million years- and will continue to have these vast frozen wastelands and wastelands of deserts for millions of years.

The human creature must transform from an animal that lives only on land, into being able to live on and within the oceans and in the skies.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
May 6, 2021 4:18 pm

Many coastal and river areas are regularly flooded, including the Nile Delta, the Rhine valley and Thailand. Over 20% of Bangladesh is permanently under water.

And COP105 is scheduled to bring 250,000 climate officials, scientists, celebrities, press, and NGO workers to Venice to discuss new initiatives to stop climate change.

Lrp
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
May 6, 2021 7:25 pm

They should go to Beijing and make their points vigorously. I’m sure they’ll be understood and obeyed immediately

Abolition Man
May 6, 2021 4:36 pm

Eric,
What an embarrassment to the Earth Sciences! This professor needs to be defrocked, or maybe refrocked into a bishop’s or cardinal’s regalia! They do have regalia for their religious leaders in the Church of Climastrology, don’t they? I know part of the perks for them is to fly around in private jets, and super yachts and oceanfront mansions seem de rigueur for the upper priesthood these days.
This ideologue claiming to once have been a professor seems to have forgotten or is ignoring everything he ever learned in Earth Sciences! There are so many fallacies with his tripe that it is hard to know where to start! I guess the main question I would add is why the Jurassic Cretaceous boundary has CO2 levels and temperatures moving in direct opposition to each other, and why didn’t the Earth burn up at THAT time with higher temps than the present and CO2 at around 3,000ppm?
Maybe he’s already burned all his old geology texts for being heretical!

Abolition Man
Reply to  Eric Worrall
May 6, 2021 5:31 pm

Eric,
I agree with his right to say whatever he wants; I just think we should be able to ridicule and parody his seeming ignorance! But how can someone who lies be allowed to teach children? We’ve now two full generations that have been led to believe that the Earth will suffer major catastrophes within their lifetimes! Child mental wellness is worse than anything we experienced during the Cold War atomic bomb scares!
Maybe we need to bring back pillories and stocks! Public shaming might convince alarmists to speak the truth; and pigs might fly!

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Eric Worrall
May 7, 2021 3:48 am

“But any attempt to restrict what professors can teach would quickly be turned against climate skeptics.” But hasn’t that already happened? I suspect many professors around the planet are skeptics of the “emergency” but are afraid to say so.

Richard Page
Reply to  Abolition Man
May 6, 2021 6:25 pm

Children? Where on earth do you think he teaches? In a kindergarten? All of his students are over 18 and adults – most, if not all, will spend the next three or four years drinking alcohol, having sex with each other and (occasionally) turning up for a lecture. It’s a tough old life, being a student!

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Richard Page
May 6, 2021 8:53 pm

“Children”

URMC / Encyclopedia / Understanding the Teen Brain 

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051

“The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so.

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Mr.
Reply to  Eric Worrall
May 6, 2021 5:35 pm

Exactly Eric.

“The Long March Through The Institutions” by the international socialist Fabian Society doesn’t happen under the glare of full & open disclosure.
It happens by stealth.

If they were outed them at every opportunity, the world would be a better place today.

Dennis
Reply to  Mr.
May 7, 2021 5:06 am

Invesitability of gradualness, a Fabian Society of socialists saying.

Chris Hanley
May 6, 2021 5:29 pm

This guy is after a job in Hollywood, his piece reads like a science fiction movie script.
The relationship between CO2 concentration and temperature so far seems to be approximately logarithmic as the theory would have it, which is not to necessary confirm the theory.
http://clivebest.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/CO2-log.png
How our good professor gets +4C by 2100 is a mystery he fails to explain, I guess +3C is not scary enough and +5C is too ridiculous for anyone to believe.

Climate believer
Reply to  Chris Hanley
May 7, 2021 1:53 am

In the article the +4°C is hyperlinked to IPCC AR5 which has a graph showing the RCP8.5 climate model at +4°C in 2100.

Totally ridiculous, just like our good professor.

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George Daddis
May 6, 2021 6:05 pm

Please don’t accept their premise and then pose a rebuttal with that premise as a given.
Haven’t you just been a victim of the logical fallacy of “begging the question”?

Extreme weather HAS NOT gotten worse. PERIOD. If you don’t challenge THAT, a layperson would assume the premise is correct, and therefore the CONCLUSION would seem reasonable.

Use your energy to destroy the PREMISE which can easily be done with facts and hard data.

Otherwise you are putting yourself in the swamp of undefined assertions and no one wins that battle.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  George Daddis
May 7, 2021 12:52 pm

“Please don’t accept their premise and then pose a rebuttal with that premise as a given.”

Exceptionally good advice. And this not only applies to climate change and other areas of politics. Don’t accept the Left/Alarmist’s premise because they are almost always wrong and are used as a method to mislead.

Al Miller
May 6, 2021 6:53 pm

Gosh I’m scared – because this prediction will the first one eeeever to come true right? Ah maybe not, just another junk science report for the dustbin of history. Have these people no shame at all. These sell out scientists make Tinder whores look modest.

Lrp
May 6, 2021 7:41 pm

The guy is a total fraud. It’s a shame he’s allowed to make a living peddling lies

Ray Boorman
May 6, 2021 7:43 pm

I notice Maslin claims that in 2100 over 20% of Bangladesh is permanently underwater. That has to be false, because IF that part of the world was permanently underwater, it would be called the Bay of Bengal.

No different to the land that formed the eastern coast of Australia 20,000 years ago, but is now under up to120m of seawater, is a part of the Pacific Ocean.

John F Hultquist
May 6, 2021 8:07 pm

 Maslin is a leading scientist with particular expertise in understanding the Anthropocene and how it relates to the major challenges facing humanity in the 21st century. [his words, I guess]

In other words, he is a nut case and a Climate Cult member – – but I repeat myself.

Pat from kerbob
May 6, 2021 8:24 pm

In the long run, we’re all dead. JMK.

All that really matters.

GregK
May 6, 2021 8:39 pm

Great Barrier Reef “Officially” declared dead?

Seems someone forgot to tell the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
https://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/the-reef/reef-health

Gary Pearse
May 6, 2021 8:51 pm

How bad can it be if we do nothing? Well one thing that is a no brainer is that the West spending a couple of hundred trillion (US half of that), will not stem the galloping emissions from 5 billion people outside the West bent on achieving prosperity for their people.

They’ve already embarked on the plan with hundreds of new coal fired plants constructed, under construction and on the drawing board. That is just for cheap electrification. Following will be the other trappings of prosperity – decades of infrastructure and other construction with necessary cement, iron and steel, a tripling of the global auto and truck fleets, travel, shipping; the comforts – a more than doubling of CO2 output….

Tom in Toronto
May 6, 2021 9:09 pm

I think 1.5 or 2 is supposed to scare me, right? 4 Degrees warmer is my worst nightmare.

Speaking of which, it was supposed to be a high of 11C today here in Toronto, but it was a wonderful surprise to have it hit 15C! Four degrees of unexpected warming in one day!
And my 2 year old had a wonderful day at the park.

Even if the worst case scenarios depicted by the climate nutters magically prove true, I still haven’t figured out why True Believers in places like Canada, Russia, and Scandinavia aren’t trying to burn as much fossil fuel as possible in order to make millions of sq kms of frozen and useless tundra into prime real estate that the rest of the world has no choice but to migrate towards.

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dk_
Reply to  Tom in Toronto
May 6, 2021 10:34 pm

Saint (sarc) Svante Ahrennius thought that the “hothouse” effect might give Sweden a more attractive and salubrious climate, so as to attract future immigrants and improve agricultural conditions.

Fun fact: When Prof. Knut Angstrom called him on Ahrennius’ actual measurements for CO2, despite his colleague’s (and Knut’s father, another colleague) greater experience and body of work in the field of radiation absorbtion in gases, Svante ridiculed the man, even though both Angstoms’ work was essential to his own. Ahrennius continued his Nobel victory lap lecture tour. Knut Angstrom continued his work, as did his son — 3 generations in radiation/meteorology. The guy with the posture and ego got the prize, and climate death cult sainthood.

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Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Tom in Toronto
May 7, 2021 3:57 am

“millions of sq kms of frozen and useless tundra”
The enviros will cry that it’s “rare and endangered habitat”- to them, it’ll be a catastrophe for the tundra to revert to a thriving forest.

Matthew Sykes
May 6, 2021 11:28 pm

Over 20% of Bangladesh is permanently under water.” Bangladesh is growing in size.

Climate believer
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
May 7, 2021 2:10 am

Coldest temperature ever recorded in Bangladesh was in 2018, 2.6°C/36.6°F.

This idiot professor thinks cold doesn’t affect people:

https://electroverse.net/at-least-50-dead-as-severe-cold-sweeps-bangladesh/

Ken Irwin
May 6, 2021 11:42 pm

About the same tenor as this climate sermon by Marty Feldman

Michael in Dublin
May 7, 2021 2:01 am

In many countries, summer temperatures persistently stay above 40°C

Published in the reputable “The Conversation” need I say more.

In a hot, dry area it is worth noting that heat is not the major problem but a lack of water. If there is a plentiful supply of water, trees and plants can flourish. Anyone who has lived in this kind of area will know that it is substantially cooler under trees than out in the sun where temperatures are measured. This is why people have lived and survived for thousands of years in some of the hottest and driest areas. They have found ways to capture and store water when there is heavy rain and use it for irrigation when it is driest. Human ingenuity is a reality. Climate engineering is a fantasy.

Bruce Cobb
May 7, 2021 4:03 am

Hear me, oh ye climate blasphemers and idolaters of fossil fuels! Change your wicked ways now and henceforth, for if you do not, there will be much pain and anguish wreaked upon you, and upon this land and the oceans. For you have sinned mightily in the eyes of Gaia, and the keepers of The Science. Repent, and change your ways of wickedness, for if you do not, there will come a time of great sorrow and misery, and the anguish and suffering of your people and progeny will be such that a great cry will go up throughout the land! Fire will ravage and consume all in its path, and both great Floods as well as Droughts will wreak great death and misery. When there aren’t great storms wreaking havoc and death, there will be a baking heat such that you have never known! Repent now, and change your wicked ways, or your progeny will curse you for what you have done, and many will succumb to the hostile climate that you have created!
Now go in peace, spreading this message to others so that a time of great evil can be averted. Amen!
Checks are OK, but we take credit cards, venmo, cash, and even bitcoin. Thank you very much. May St. Greta bless you!

ozspeaksup
May 7, 2021 4:36 am

the gbr is dead?
oh really?
what drivel

Dennis
Reply to  ozspeaksup
May 7, 2021 5:08 am

Yes it is, the GBR is alive and life cycles continue.

Interesting that all of the other coral reefs are rarely mentioned.

jpkoch1962
May 7, 2021 4:40 am

There was an era when different parts of the globe suffered from terrible droughts, devastating storms that brought floods, as well as record cold and snow, devastating tropical storms; long term glacier growth, as well as terrible summer heat waves. This era was known as the Little Ice Age, circa 1315 to 1820

Josie
May 7, 2021 5:04 am

A bit off topic perhaps but as I understand it The Scream is not about a guy screaming but rather a guy hearing Nature scream in his head.

https://inews.co.uk/culture/arts/art-the-scream-not-screaming-edvard-munch-271425

Maybe the professor or Greta grapple with the problem of hearing screams in their heads. In which case they are not to be envied I guess.

2hotel9
May 7, 2021 6:27 am

Doing nothing is the intelligent course of action, therefore it will not be taken.

Andy Pattullo
May 7, 2021 6:59 am

If we do nothing, about 8 billion humans will die by the end of the century. If we follow the advice of the catastrophists we can ensure that many of those 8 billion die even sooner at the end of miserable lives while the natural world is decimated as people cling to the last vestiges of civilization. On the other hand, if we recognize that CAGW is an imaginary bogyman created for political and profit goals, and we return to a life of achievement based on science and truth, we can build the most amazing world for the 8 billion so that after their passing they will have lived a life of purpose and achievement.

Olen
May 7, 2021 7:13 am

The sermon reads like a Hollywood script depicting a lunatic instilling fear with predictions that have no basis in reality.

My opinion of those who listen are ones who want to make their mark on their life but with very little effort. And possibly the desire to fit in with a group with a goal.

Mark D
May 7, 2021 7:55 am

In 1977, a empty headed young newlywed, I watched “We Will Freeze in the Dark” and was terrified. Half century later I’m still waiting.

Paul Penrose
May 7, 2021 10:32 am

Total rubbish.

Jeffery P
May 7, 2021 12:20 pm

Have the courage to do nothing. It’s not a crisis. Stop feeding the apocalyptic fears of the loonies. Encourage them to get professional help. Surely there are group sessions available. Possibly could combine with Trump Derangement Syndrome de-programming.

ren
May 7, 2021 12:24 pm

A melted glacier in Northern Italy has uncovered a trove of World War 1 treasures.
A cave shelter in Mount Scorluzzo housed 20 Austrian soldiers in the war, and has now revealed food, dishes, jackets, and other items.
The cave was first entered by researchers in 2017, when the surrounding glacier had melted – explained historian Stefano Morosini to CNN.
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/melting-glacier-stelvio-pass-italy-ww1-b1842360.html

Quilter52
May 9, 2021 7:14 pm

I wonder if the vegans and vegetarians realise how many animals they are responsible for the deaths of. Every time I get lectured about giving up meat, I go out And order another steak.If these fruit loops want to exterminate themselves, please feel free. Justleave the rest of us alone to get on with our perfectly satisfying woke free lives.

Loius
May 19, 2021 7:03 am

Although many skeptics say that nothing can be done. But in fact, we can slow down the process of climate change and global warming. I’m just writing an essay on climate change and what we can do as a society so as not to destroy the environment at such a fast pace. I’ve read a lot of papers on climate change, and in fact, we can very radically change the course of events. Reducing the emission of chemicals into the atmosphere, recycling, electric cars, we are in a position to change a lot.

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