UGLY: ‘Climate emergency’ soon to justify ‘house arrest’

‘Climate emergency’ means house arrest: COVID ‘has revealed the inner-tyrants of many politicians’

By Peter Murphy – Policy Analyst, Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT)

“Under the pretense of a ‘climate emergency,’ politicians and bureaucrats will increasingly impose Covid-like restrictions on our jobs, transportation, food choices, housing and much else based the purported need to ‘reduce greenhouse gases.’

Not surprisingly, the once Golden State is leading the way. The Metropolitan Transportation Commission, a government agency in the San Francisco Bay area…recommends billions of dollars for job training, affordable housing, high-speed internet, adaptions for “sea-level rise” (est. cost: $19 billion), “retrofit” residential buildings ($15 billion), and “enable carbon neutrality” for all existing public and commercial buildings ($18 billion). 

This central planning scheme also includes this doozy: “allow a variety of housing types at a range of densities” including in areas “with the region’s best schools and economic opportunities.” Translation: public housing projects are coming to suburban communities.

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jorgekafkazar
September 30, 2020 11:09 am

Agenda 21 has arrived in Calizuela.

Reply to  jorgekafkazar
September 30, 2020 8:34 pm

OT but related – the full-Gulag lockdown is over in some European countries.

DENMARK HEADS TO PRE-COVID NORMALITY: NO MASKS OR DISTANCING IN SCHOOLS, JUST COMMON SENSE
September 28, 2020 BY
Patrick Henningsen
https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/09/28/denmark-back-to-pre-covid-normality-no-masks-no-distancing-in-schools/

One of the more diabolical aspects of the protracted COVID ‘crisis’ in countries like the United Kingdom, the United States and Australia, is the intellectually dishonest claim that Coronavirus in their countries is somehow different from the Coronavirus in other western countries.

It’s like there are two parallel universes now. While the Anglosphere continues to ramp-up its emergency ‘pandemic’ measures and mandatory mask and quarantine policies, their Scandinavian counterparts like Sweden, Norway or Denmark have already returned to life as normal; no masks on public transport (although Norway just introduced a new rule today advising masks on crowded carriages), no obsessive social distancing rules, no snap lockdowns, and certainly no draconian laws and threats of £10,000 fines made by government leaders, or holding the country hostage until a wonder vaccine arrives in the spring. The contrast couldn’t be more extreme.

george Tetley
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
October 1, 2020 1:50 am

Sweden, after testing the verious Coronavirus “testing systems” found that only 3 out of the 7 tested gave factual results.

MJB
Reply to  george Tetley
October 1, 2020 5:55 am

Do you have a link? I’d love to share that with a couple people and it didn’t turn up on a quick google search. Closest item was related to 3700 false positives from self administered tests.
Thanks,
MJB

D. Boss
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
October 1, 2020 3:17 am

It is worse than any of us thought… This really is a trial run for controlling the masses. That is now being contemplated to use these lockdown measures against the older boogyman of Climate Change, reveals it really was a Plandemic.

And really fracking scary is this compilation of info:

https://principia-scientific.com/proof-that-the-pandemic-was-planned-with-purpose/

Here is a selection of the referenced points in the above, long article:

– test kits for covid-19 were being sold by European Union, USA, China and others 2 years before the outbreak.

– in 2017 Anthony Fauci guaranteed that a surprise outbreak of an infectious disease during the first term of Trump’s presidency.

– right before the outbreak, Bill Gates organized Event201 – a global coronavirus “exercise”

– in 2015 a European Patent was granted for a testing method for “covid-19” (it’s in the title and text of a granted patent!)

– in 2018 Bill and Melinda Gates announced that in the coming years there would be a global pandemic of an engineered virus

– Harry Vox, investigative journalist predicted in 2014 a global pandemic would be caused so the ruling class could implement a higher level of authoritarian control

– Anthony Patch investigative journalist predicted a global pandemic with man made virus to force a DNA altering vaccine on humanity

– Dr. Carrie Madej says the plan is to use the Covid-19 vaccine to start the process of trans-humanism i.e. reprogramming the human DNA

– CIA officer Dr. Coleman says goal is to depopulate the earth with organized pandemics of fatal rapid acting diseases

– Bill Gates said in a TED talk that new vaccines could be used to reduce the world population down to 10-15%

– Mike Adams predicted years ago an engineered bioweapon would be released, followed by a vaccine mandate, and massive funding of vaccine industry, creating a vaccine in record time and this would kill innumerable people over a couple of years

– in 2010 Rockerfeller foundation published “Scenario for the Future” which outlines a coming global pandemic which would result in the implementation of authoritarian control over the people which would intensify after the pandemic

– in 2020 they (above) publish a handbook on how to create this world of control with step by step guide. They say things cannot return to normal until the world is locked down!

Then there are microchips to go into vaccines, purported DNA changes that can be turned on like a switch (with the coming 5g) that both dumb down population, and can rapidly eliminate those who do not tow the party line. And masks and mandates and on and on…

Allan MacRae’s essay on how radical greens have killed more than Hitler, Stalin and Mao combined in the past century is very germane to this whole thing once again! (if they are willing to kill millions for green causes, part of which believes man is the disease – mass genocide is a no brainer for these purveyors of evil)

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/14/hypothesis-radical-greens-are-the-great-killers-of-our-age/

ResourceGuy
September 30, 2020 11:23 am

In Venezuela, the Maduro tyrant regime urged the poor to take over the vacant properties of the wealthy who fled to other countries. The same was done in Havana but mainly to house Russians in past decades.

Kramer
September 30, 2020 11:33 am

My girlfriend is so far left, she’s practically a communist.

We spent a weekend with one of her sisters in the bay area last year and her sister is also a far left winger. One thing she told me was that she really detests it when government moves inner city people into the suburbs.

I got a feeling this feeling is common among many libs.
It could spectacular backfire on them…

Hot under the collar
Reply to  Kramer
September 30, 2020 12:01 pm

Hopefully, if the relationship continues, it won’t turn into Kramer vs. Kramer!

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Hot under the collar
September 30, 2020 1:02 pm

Did you mean “War of the Roses”, with Kathleen Turner and Michael Douglas?

Stevek
Reply to  Kramer
September 30, 2020 12:15 pm

Do she pay lots of taxes , I find when people start paying higher taxes they suddenly become conservative.

Reply to  Stevek
September 30, 2020 8:11 pm

Sometimes they lose the ability to form proper sentences. Assuming they had that ability in the first place.

Wade
Reply to  Kramer
September 30, 2020 12:21 pm

The people who claim to be communist do not really know what communism requires. The Marxist indoctrination masters always leave out the actual negative consequences of communism. The capitalist free market means you get to choose which job you want, including where the job is; neither of those are true under communism. The supporters of communism won’t know this until it is too late, and if they are really really lucky they won’t be a part of one of the many red purges.

Sara
Reply to  Wade
September 30, 2020 1:56 pm

There are very few times I’ve wondered how to revive Joe Stalin, and I still don’t want to, because Xi Jinping is going in that direction – getting nastier – but no one will believe it unless it’s forced down their throats.
The Trans-Siberian highway from Moscow to Irkutsk in Yakutia is called the Road of Bones for a reason, you know.

Big T
Reply to  Sara
September 30, 2020 2:48 pm

Alexander Solzhenitsyn would agree

John in Oz
Reply to  Wade
September 30, 2020 4:02 pm

” From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs ” (German: Jeder nach seinen Fähigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedürfnissen) is a slogan popularised by Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program. The principle refers to free access to and distribution of goods, capital and services.

jtom
Reply to  John in Oz
September 30, 2020 5:56 pm

Yes, and it needs to be more honest:

From each according to their ability, whether they want to or not, and by force when necessary, to each according to their needs, as determined by government, when available from the restricted amount of goods and services produced once the politburo have met their own needs.

The liberals fail to realize that government will not recognize Starbucks as a need, nor a vegetarian diet, green energy, a clean environment, healthcare, housing, or at times, toilet paper.

Mark H
Reply to  Wade
September 30, 2020 6:10 pm

The relentless quest for equality of outcome, (equity) which the communists nominally aimed for (the reality was much more brutal than that) and the modern left seems to be enamored by, is, as far as I can tell, pretty much the basis for all of this tyranny and the current fledgling tyrannies metastasizing in the West. The scariest part of the current situation, particularly in my home state of Victoria, is that these tyrants are driven by some perverse idea that it is their role to “keep people safe”. As C.S Lewis put it quite well:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

There exists at present a deep misunderstanding of the reality of the world, the education system has been subverted for decades and a generation of children have been taught that equality of outcome is a just goal. In reality, it is inherently tyrannical. This totally ignores the reality that people are different, Price’s Law effects virtually all areas of productive activity. Added to that that the centralized and controlled economies and societies that are required to force equality of outcome (it can only be attained by force) mean that the whole society will inevitably devolve into a state where the items required are not available in the required quantities. Central planning cannot determine the quantity of any particular item that may be required at any particular time and is utterly incapable of innovation and the creation of new and novel items that ease the burden of life.

Generally, conservative people just want to be left alone to succeed or fail in their endeavors by their own merits. I personally have no intention of becoming a Kulak.

The current state of the Western world is far from perfect, but if anything it needs to be more free and open, not less. We are eternally hamstrung without the existence of sound money, without that any system will eventually devolve into cronyism where those closest to the spigot of fiat money gain immeasurable benefit.

Reply to  Mark H
September 30, 2020 11:05 pm

Really well said, love that quote. Thank you.

Reply to  Mark H
October 1, 2020 1:57 am

I called it correctly in 2012 – it was never about the climate – false climate hysteria was always the smokescreen for the left’s totalitarian objectives.
– Regards , Allan

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/13/warming-in-the-ushcn-is-mainly-an-artifact-of-adjustments/#comment-811587

Gail Combs says: April 14, 2012 at 5:28 am
There is also the question of how good the data is during the time of Red China’s “Purges” where up to 80 million were killed.

http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left/china/deaths2.html

Thank you Gail for remembering these tortured millions. Below is an excerpt from that article.

THE CAGW SCAM IS NOT, AS MANY OF US ORIGINALLY BELIEVED, THE INNOCENT ERRORS OF A CLOSE-KNIT TEAM OF HIGHLY DYSLEXIC SCIENTISTS. THE EVIDENCE FROM THE CLIMATEGATE EMAILS AND MANY OTHER SOURCES, AND THE INTRANSIGENCE OF THESE GLOBAL WARMING FRAUDSTERS WHEN FACED WITH THE OVERWHELMING FAILURES OF THEIR SCIENTIFIC PREDICTIONS, SUGGESTS MUCH DARKER MOTIVES.

THE LESSON OF MAO, HITLER AND STALIN IS THAT ONE SHOULD NOT TRUST, AND ONE SHOULD NEVER CEDE POWER TO THOSE WHO HAVE NO MORAL COMPASS.

Best regards, Allan

SCHOLARS CONTINUE TO REVEAL MAO’S MONSTROSITIES
Exiled Chinese historians emerge with evidence of cannibalism and up to 80 million deaths under the communist leader’s regime.
Beth Duff-Brown,
Los Angeles Times,
November 20, 1994

Gong Xiaoxia recalls the blank expression on the man’s face as he was beaten to death by a Chinese mob.

He died without a name, becoming another statistic among millions.

“I remember him so vividly, he really had no expression on his face,” Gong said. “After about 10 or 20 minutes, God knows how long, someone took out a knife and hit him right into the heart.”
He was then strung on a pole and left dangling and rotting for two months.

“I think the most terrible thing, when I recall that period, the most terrible thing that struck me was our indifference,” said Gong, today a 38-year-old graduate student at Harvard researching her own history.

That terrible period was China’s 1966-1976 Cultural Revolution. The blinding indifference was in the name of Chairman Mao Tse-tung and the Communist Party.

Gong is among a new wave of scholars and intellectuals, both Western and Chinese, who believe modern Chinese history needs rewriting.

While the focus of many books and articles today is on China’s successful economic reforms, dramatic new figures for the number of people who died as a result of Mao Tse-tung’s policies are surfacing, along with horrifying proof of cannibalism during the Cultural Revolution.

It is now believed that as many as 60 million to 80 million people may have died because of Mao’s policies-making him responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin combined.

Gong said killer is not a strong enough word to describe Mao. “He was a monster,” she said.

*******************

Reply to  Mark H
October 1, 2020 2:30 am

Agreed – well said!

Some of my American friends are horrified by Trump – they are offended by his brash, very-direct New York style. I lived in New York for a year, and that is what many New Yorkers are like – they tell you what they think, in very few words. I like it – no “safe spaces” and no lack of clarity.

What American voters need to understand is when you vote you don’t get to choose perfection – you get what you get, and you better focus on what really matters. This election is not about personal style, it’s about the survival of freedom – the free-enterprise Republicans vs the full-Marxist-Democrats.

Canada under L’íl Fidel Trudeau is already finished – so is Western Europe – both are far down the poverty road to Venezuela, due to flawed green energy policies and other socialist mismanagement of the economy.

If America falls to the Marxist-Democrats, it is over! it will be one man, one vote, once! the end of freedom! if America falls, there will be nowhere left to run to.

Alan Chappell
Reply to  Wade
October 1, 2020 2:07 am

I have a friend who is a ,English teacher in Siberia, ,teaching for 11 years now earns $420 a month she has never ever been paid on time at present is waiting for April’s paycheck She is not worried as she says this is normal in Siberia, with temperature in the minus 30-35 and supermarket near (45km) roads, to travel to the supermarket is a 3 hour drive yep communist is paradise just like California

Mark Neville
Reply to  Alan Chappell
October 2, 2020 1:06 pm

You don’t seem to have noticed that Russia is not a communist country any more, hasn’t been for 30 years. It’s a capitalist dictatorship

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Kramer
September 30, 2020 1:29 pm

Pro-Tip: Get out while you can. It won’t work, even if the sex is good. Find someone whose values align with yours if you want a relationship to last. That goes for Left-leaning, Right-leaning, centrists, religious values, life values, etc.

icisil
Reply to  Kramer
September 30, 2020 1:36 pm

“One thing she told me was that she really detests it when government moves inner city people into the suburbs.”

Well, sweetie, you’re just getting what you voted for. Elections have consequences. No amount of denial will ever change that.

Reply to  Kramer
September 30, 2020 3:03 pm

Everyone is conservative in their personal lives.

AndyHce
Reply to  Kramer
September 30, 2020 4:19 pm

This is from quite a few years ago. The destruction is well and truly done now. I got the complaints from various relatives on one of my infrequent visits to that part of the country a couple of decades ago.

The setting is a fairly small town 30 miles or so from a large city that hadn’t seen much “progress” for perhaps centuries. For a very long time the connection between the city and this small town was an old two lane highway running right along the river, with hills and cliffs directly on the other side of the highway along much of the route. Now there is a freeway further back from the river where there is more level land.

Like many eastern cities there has been considerable strife in the city. The public schools had major problems with gangs, violence, drugs, and whatever else comes with mixed cultures clashing and rejecting all rules and customs outside their own tribe. This did not exist in the small town, at least not to any extent that most people were aware of it.

A city judge decided this was a gross inequality and ordered that a sizeable contingent of trouble causing students were to be henceforth bussed daily to the small town schools. I don’t recall whether there was an exchange of local students being sent down the river.

The end result, of course was just more opportunity for gangs, drugs, theft, vandalism, etc. to expand and dominate, substantially changing the local culture. It seems unlikely there was anything more than, at best, a very brief reduction in tension for the big city schools.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Kramer
October 1, 2020 10:44 am

Right Now Kramer, in many suburbs of our bluest states it can be verified that public housing projects have already come to suburban communities.

As Contractors get bureaucratic permits to build new condos around suburban centers they are required to include, typically around 20%, “Affordable Housing Units” which is GovMint Code word for Section 8 eligibility which is just bureaucratic vernacular for Public Housing.

In many locales its not coming its already here. The funny but very sad thing is that, not unlike your girlfriend or her sisters, the self professed progressives are the fist to throw up “For Sale” signs and scurry away to less progressive locations only to start voting for the same kind of politicians and bureaucrats that are going to metastasize poverty into their new residential locations.

Rinse and repeat. They should adopt as their theme song Whitesnake’s “Here I go again.”

Gary Pearse
September 30, 2020 11:46 am

It is imperative that the vote get out for Trump! Despotism, violence and economic chaos are in the offing. With the Dems gearing up to bring in bales of votes which may or may not have real, living, individual persons associated with them, and with partisan mailmen throwing away military absentee votes for Trump, he needs 100% turnout to be sure.

Although, if my hunch is right, the silent ones this election are Democrats who don’t want to have what’s on offer from the radical left, especially with the truly frightening prospect of a K. Harris president. It could be a Trump landslide but go after every vote that can be mustered.

Go Home
Reply to  Gary Pearse
September 30, 2020 12:13 pm

I agree with your sentiment about the election, but unfortunately Trump is his own worse enemy. The highly anticipated debate last night was a disaster for him. I was really hoping he would come in prepared and explain the difference between the two parties to those that are still on the fence. I suspect it will take a miracle for him to catch Biden now. God help us all if the Dems get complete control.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Go Home
September 30, 2020 12:44 pm

The debate was between a Real Estate Bu11csh1ter and a senile incoherent Soc1a11st . What a shame the government “by the people, for the people“ has somehow allowed these people to be the top choices.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  DMacKenzie
September 30, 2020 10:40 pm

… you mean: What a shame the media has chosen these people to be the top choices.

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  Go Home
September 30, 2020 1:02 pm

Agreed with Go Home
All Trump had to do was be reasonable and explain the true differences in his 2 minute allotment but he just can’t articulate real ideas and arguments.
He needed to pull women and centrists back and he undoubtedly scared them further.
I’m so angry with him, he has a strong hand and he didn’t play it.

d
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
September 30, 2020 1:20 pm

Agree with GoHome and Pat. Trump let everyone down with his performance. He looked like a petulant bully. He has a case to make, but he chose to waste his time needling and interrupting Biden, trying to get him to stutter or fall apart. That didn’t help him with anyone who is truly undecided.

My bigger concern is what that sort of performance does to Republican senators in close races. That’s where the line has to hold.

David A
Reply to  d
September 30, 2020 9:59 pm

President Trump was interrupted constantly by Wallace. He succeeded in getting Biden to denounce the Green New Deal and to support ANTIFA and pretend the the riots and destruction were not real. Biden also indicated he would impose further shut downs in a minute if advised.
( All if the above will not help Biden with his base and it undecided voters)

Also Biden lied constantly. President Trump did not do perfectly, but he edged out Wallace and soundly defeated Biden.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  d
October 1, 2020 2:12 pm

Trump said a lot of important things during the debate. Unfortunately, with all three of the participants talking at once, it was extremely difficult to tell what any of them were saying. A transcript of the debate would show Trump in a more favorable light as far as substance goes.

I saw a report where something like 60 percent of Latinos thought Trump won the debate.

Trump hit Biden with some serious issues such as his crooked son, Hunter, and the Biden family’s dealings with China and Ukraine and many other nations to the benefit of the Biden family. Of course, Biden denied all and wanted to change the subject and focus on Hunter’s personal struggle with drugs, and then Chris Wallace stopped the talk going in that direction altogether. But Trump managed to get all his issues articluated even if it was hard to hear.

Trump also pointed out how Hillary Clinton has been caught red-handed with her collusion with the Russians in an effort to deflect attention from her emails and to hurt Trump in his election attempt. She Ok’ed the smear campaign against Trump using Russian disinformation, and Obama and Biden were briefed on all of it. Biden And Wallace didn’t want to explore that subject.

And it does’t matter how many times Trump denounces skinheads, and Nazis and White supremacists, the lying Leftwing News Media asks him again and again when he is going to denounce them.

Biden claims the reason he got into the presidential race is because of what Trump said during the Charlottsville demonstration (I don’t believe Biden), where Trump said there were “very good people on both sides of the issue”. Biden claims this phrase of praise includes White supremaists and skinheads and this is why he got in the race. What Biden doesn’t tell you is that Trump specifically denounced the White supremacists and skinheads on that occasion. Biden and the Left leave that part out. They are dealing in what are called “half-truths”.

Yes, Trump could have comported himself a little better, but he, like many of us, don’t like having people telling lies about him, especially to his face, and it is inevitable that Trump is going to fire back. I do wish he had fired back during his two minutes rather than butting in, but Biden interrupted Trump too, and called him all sorts of names, and it’s just not in Trump’s nature to hold back. If his is attacked, he will attack back harder.

And, as always, Biden had nothing to say about the specifics of any of his plans. His sole focus was on trashing Trump, of he told lie after lie. Biden claimed he could have done a much better job than Trump with the Wuhan virus, but he never told us any details of what he would have done differently from Trump, and of course, Chris Wallace didn’t press him on it.

I also heard today that about 40 percent of the crowds that are going to Trump rallies are *not* Republicans. Which is a very good sign. Everybody get out and vote. The Democrats need to be overwhelmingly defeated if we are to preserve our personal freedoms.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  d
October 1, 2020 2:23 pm

The one time I saw a favorable smile on Trump’s face during the debate was when he was listening to Biden say he would make the U.S. rejoin the Paris Climate Agreement if he was elected, and Biden complained about Trump withdrawing the U.S. from the agreement, and Biden said after Trump withdrew, the Paris Climate Agreement was “falling apart”. Trump got a smile on his face for the first time that night. 🙂

Chris Wallace also tried to pin Trump down on whether humans and their burining of fossil fuesl are causing the climate to change and Trump allowed that it “might”.

So I guess that makes Trump a Lukewarmer. Or maybe not. He might just be saying, like I do, that the jury is still out on this subject. Which it is.

Lrp
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
September 30, 2020 2:28 pm

Perhaps the American people don’t know anymore what is good for them, if they are prepared to buy in Biden’s lies and total commitment to make them poor and helpless.

Reply to  Lrp
September 30, 2020 10:34 pm

It’s not that they’re buying into Biden’s lies, but that they’ve been told they have to hate Trump. That’s the bottom line. They’re hoping for a win buy votes against Trump, not necessarily for Biden.

TonyG
Reply to  Go Home
September 30, 2020 1:10 pm

For what it’s worth, CNN showed 53% “Trump won” vs. 39% Biden; Telemundo had 60% Trump 30% Biden.

What that translates to as far as votes, who knows?

Go Home
Reply to  TonyG
September 30, 2020 1:42 pm

I don’t believe the CNN poll results you quoted. Link? The CNN Poll i see had Biden clear winner. “Six in 10 debate watchers said former Vice President Joe Biden did the best job in Tuesday’s debate, and just 28% say President Donald Trump did, according a CNN Poll of debate watchers conducted by SSRS.” It was skewed heavily towards Democrats.

The Telemundo poll is encouraging but was not scientific. It was a twitter poll.

Trump kept interrupting and bailing out Biden. He did not need to be combative. Let Biden speak and dig his own hole.

TonyG
Reply to  Go Home
September 30, 2020 2:04 pm

Maybe it was CNBC that I saw. I don’t remember and I don’t care enough to bother. Like I said: “For what it’s worth”

At this point, I don’t trust ANY of the polls anyway, so it’s not worth much.

Reply to  Go Home
September 30, 2020 1:29 pm

Yeah, Trump’s performance sucked IMHO. He was so busy interrupting Biden in order to knock him off his game, he didn’t give Biden enough time to get lost inside his own skull and wander off to nowhere. He should have let Biden finish his thoughts.

He had three golden opportunities to sink Biden with the far left. Three times he interrupted Biden and said “you just lost the left”. What he should have done is let Biden finish, then say he wanted to make sure he understood the response and get him to repeat it, not once but twice. Then look into the camera and tell the Bernie bro’s…hope you heard that, he’s not going to give you what you want.

Lastly, he blew the climate change question. The answer to the question as posed was easy. “Climate Change is real, but the fires in California can’t be blamed on Climate Change. CC is a minor factor there, the major factor is forest management. Look at the fires, they stop at the Canadian border because they have good forestry management”

Tom in Florida
Reply to  davidmhoffer
September 30, 2020 4:48 pm

Agreed.
Now, if I was Trump’s advisor, I would tell him not to address Biden directly but rather to address the moderator and refer to Joe in the third person as “Biden and his handlers”. I would do this every time hammering home that Biden is not in control, his handlers are. I would start any rebuttal with “Biden and his handlers are ignorant of the real facts…” and go on from their. Sooner or later Biden will break down and tell Trump that he is his own man and has no handlers. At that point Trump should look sorrowfully at Biden, shake his head and say” “Poor Joe, you don’t even realize that if you get elected the Democrat leaders will have no more use for you and then they will simply discard you out the back door like trash. It’s sad, so sad that you have no idea this is going to happen.”

icisil
Reply to  Go Home
September 30, 2020 3:31 pm

Did anyone see the wire Joe was wearing? This guy did.

https://twitter.com/Media__Ferret/status/1311167917636059144

Klem
Reply to  icisil
October 1, 2020 1:14 am

I saw the wire videos, one was located under his lapel and the other was up his sleeve. The lapel wire video was not convincing in any way. However The sleeve wire was a distinct possibility.

What amzed me was how Joe managed to read his lines and get away with it.

Old Goat
Reply to  Klem
October 1, 2020 2:30 am

The “wire” was an antenna, connected to the pen-injector device up his sleeve. The pen would administer a shot of something by remote command, via the “wire”, should Biden show signs of flagging.

george Tetley
Reply to  Go Home
October 1, 2020 2:19 am

Humans have a memory retention of zero it is to early to bring out the big guns, there’s so much ammunition still under the table (Hunter etc) that it will most probably end up with the Bidens all going to jail

Nels
Reply to  Go Home
October 1, 2020 8:40 am

It would take a miracle for those polls to be right. They were way off in 2016, they are worse now. When’s the last time you investigated how they did the polls, crunched the numbers?

WUWT has plenty of documentation on how the surface temperature recording sites are not fit for purpose, how the historical numbers are been altered. If you think that isn’t happening in the electoral polls, where there is even more at stake for the leftists, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

If they were that far ahead, they would be trying to cheat by mail, to change the voting procedures and rules.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Gary Pearse
September 30, 2020 12:20 pm

+1

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Gary Pearse
September 30, 2020 1:05 pm

I have a bad feeling about the election. Postal workers have already been caught on camera dumping vote-by-mail ballots from Republican areas in the trash, and there is a video already going around about a guy in Ilhan’s district bragging about making out 800 ballots with other people’s names on them.

Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
September 30, 2020 11:12 pm

One does not need to vote for Trump, just his agenda. Feels better that way. Agree real risk is election fraud. The Dems have called BS on it for years, when we all know it is real and can sway close elections. Already has happened here in LOs Angeles when regular voting had a candidate up by 4% on election night and day after, but a week later when “mail in” votes were counted she ended up in a tie and thus a runoff this fall. Those mail in votes had to be about 80% for her opponent whereas regular voting was 52-48 in her favor. Impossible to believe all those mail ins went her way. We are in for civil war over ballot counting.

hojo
September 30, 2020 12:05 pm

wouldn’t moving public housing to the suburbs defeat the purpose of the smart city. They want us all compacted into city centers so we don/t affect the environment outside of the city, never to touch free growing grass again and to keep up going to the starbucks on the 14th floor and not grow our own veggies. Humans are begin done away with and covid is such a useful tool of elimination. Just say NO now to masks and watch the whole thing begin to fall apart. The UN has other plans for us all .

B d Clark
September 30, 2020 12:10 pm

Its arrived in the uk too, agenda 21, in full swing.

Trevor
Reply to  B d Clark
October 1, 2020 6:51 am

Make sure to stock up on tinfoil hats.

B d Clark
Reply to  Trevor
October 1, 2020 6:56 am

Yea theres a bloke called trevor selling them

KT66
September 30, 2020 12:21 pm

I guess they didn’t get the memo that the world wide lock downs made no difference on atmospheric co2.

September 30, 2020 12:34 pm

Trump needs to brush up on his Climate change talking points for the next debate. Ask Biden if he thinks that CO2 is pollution. Tell Biden that it’s CO2 and not carbon. Ask Biden what percentage of the atmosphere is CO2.
Plus a few basic things . . . like the data shows that extreme weather is either the same as always or going down in most cases. Etc. . .

– JPP

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  JON P PETERSON
September 30, 2020 1:06 pm

It should be so easy for Trump to make reasoned arguments based on facts and crush Biden but he just seems unable to do it.
After last night i think hes in trouble

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
September 30, 2020 7:05 pm

“..It should be so easy for Trump to make reasoned arguments based on facts and crush Biden but he just seems unable to do it…”

Exactly what I’ve been saying for some time now. Trump has had nearly 4 years now to refute and shoot down the false narratives of the Democrats with the science, facts, logic and reasoning. But no, he completely ignores that strategy for reasons I am at a loss to understand. Climate change, renewables, the economy, George Floyd’s death (fentanyl), the California fires, you name it. Regardless of the subject, no sign of the facts in sight.

Maybe he is so hung up on himself that he simply isn’t interested in trying to win people over any other way except the manner in which he is trying to do it now. He apparently doesn’t get it that the winning side is the side of truth — at least I believe it is.

If Trump loses in November, he has no one but himself to blame. As far as I am concerned, that is a fact.

Reply to  JON P PETERSON
September 30, 2020 4:38 pm

Trump is not bright enough to learn any climate science. He is too busy bragging about himself and exaggerating his accomplishments. It seems that he has never read a book in his life. Nor did he write the books with his name on them
Trump is the dumbest president in my lifetime, although smarter than Biden.

Trump may be the most honest president other than the self promotion — after 4 investigations nothing illegal was found.

Trump has good instincts on subjects he knows little about. Trump feels the coming climate change crisis is nonsense but has never figured out why.

Klem
Reply to  Richard Greene
October 1, 2020 1:33 am

Yes, Trump is not very bright. He only built a multibillion dollar business containing over 500 separate companies, located in dozens of coutries and employing 20,000 people. Oh yes, after that he became President of the United States.

Yup, he’s a dummy alright. Anyone can do that, right Rick?

Pflashgordon
September 30, 2020 12:37 pm

Rarely do organizations of this type dream up novel planning initiatives on their own. Even in regressive Calizuela, I suspect that the planning initiative was guided and directed toward a predetermined outcome by an influential person, group or “sustainability” consulting practice. This one even has a name, “Horizons.” I ran a quick search and came up empty, but I am certain that there is a force behind this predictable regressive plan.

I would be curious what someone can find out about the hidden forces that created this dystopian plan. Of course, a rubber stamp of the report’s recommendations by Bay Area types is entirely predictable.

Mr.
Reply to  Pflashgordon
September 30, 2020 1:35 pm

I suspect that the planning initiative was guided and directed toward a predetermined outcome by an influential person, group or “sustainability” consulting practice

Dead right.
Our little country town of about 25,000 people has declared a “climate emergency”, and of course then proceeded to engage specialist consultants to prepare an all-encompassing Climate Action Plan.

But buried deep in the 222 page plan document is this –

Compared to most towns, our total community emissions are low and at 2.9 tCO2e/year, we are well below the national average per capita emissions of 19.5 tCO2e/year.
Even so, there are pollution reduction, economic justifications, and health benefits to pursuing energy efficiency and emissions reductions actions in the community.

So my question to the City bureaucrats was –
so if we are only contributing emissions at a rate of one seventh of what average other towns do, what exactly are these “pollution reduction, economic and health benefits” we so urgently have to pursue?

Of course I have had no answers.

September 30, 2020 12:56 pm

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/09/16/congress-investigates-the-appointment-of-legates-to-noaa/#comment-3088677

We have known since ~forever that green energy schemes FAIL due to intermittency and diffusivity – we published that conclusion ‘way back in 2002. In the same paper we also clearly debunked the false global warming (aka climate change) crisis.

The greater question is why so many politicians and citizens have been so stupid as to believe the global warming/green energy scam – and how could any rational person be this stupid for this long?

I published in 2012 that there must be a hidden agenda, and now green activists are admitting that the climate scare was never really about the climate – it was always a false front for extreme-left political objectives – to end capitalism and impose a centrally-planned Marxist economy.

So the real challenge is how to rationally govern countries where so many people are extremely stupid and gullible – imbeciles who will believe any falsehood that is repeated often enough?

https://www.theepochtimes.com/two-former-republican-congressmen-endorse-biden-over-trump_3515579.html

The Marxist-Democrats are trying to steal this election through blatant frauds – from the economy-crushing, needlessly-extended, full-Gulag Covid-19 lockdown – to ballot-stuffing with mail-in ballots – to “refusing to concede the election” scams. The Dems have revealed themselves to be full-on Marxists, with their dysfunctional Green New Deal that will deliberately destroy America’s economy.

My expertise is climate and energy and the Green New Deal cannot work, due to intermittency and diffusivity. The rolling blackouts in California are proof of that failure.

Canada under L’íl Fidel Trudeau is already finished – so is Europe – both are far down the poverty road to Venezuela due to flawed green energy policies and other socialist mismanagement of the economy.

IF AMERICA FALLS TO THE MARXIST-DEMOCRATS, IT IS OVER! IT WILL BE ONE MAN, ONE VOTE, ONCE! THE END OF FREEDOM! IF AMERICA FALLS, THERE WILL BE NOWHERE LEFT TO RUN TO.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 30, 2020 1:35 pm

Walking into Socialism is easy. But we’ll have to shoot our way out.
Which of course is why the anti-#2A gun confiscators are exclusively Democrats. #2A is the ultimate back-stop protection for #1A and the other individual liberties guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. The men who wrote the Bill of Rights understood precisely, and experienced first-hand, how authoritarians think and act to control Free people.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 30, 2020 4:53 pm

The hidden agenda was obvious in the 1980s when the IPCC was formed and immediately rejected 4.5 billion years of natural causes of climate change as unimportant, when compared with man made CO2. Their scientific proof: “Because we say so.”

Humans had, and still have, no way to predict the climate in 100 years. So the coming clinate crisis will always be a coming climate crisis.
A leftist fantasy.

Every coming environmental “crisis” since the 1960s had the alleged solution of a more powerful central government run by Democrats or other leftists. A more powerful government is something leftists always wanted. Yet not once has any environmental crisis that was predicted, since the 1960s, ever happened.

Alasdair Fairbairn
Reply to  Richard Greene
October 1, 2020 6:25 am

Richard:
The IPCC was originally set up with the remit to determine the risks of anthropological CO2 emissions. It is not surprising that it found considerable risks as otherwise it would have been disbanded.
We are now stuck with this survival tactic of the IPCC; ripe for the dissemination of political agendas; these being primarily of Marxist origins.

Oldseadog
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
October 1, 2020 2:39 am

Allan,

The people who look “stupid and gullable” , i.e. the politicians, industrialists and the MSM moguls and hacks, have painted themselves into the AGW corner and don’t know how to get out of it. They think they will look stupid for falling for the scam to begin with if they recant now.

If only we could find an MSM mogul who will print the truth ….. .

Joel O'Bryan
September 30, 2020 1:23 pm

The 1st Amendment was specifically written to preclude the US govt telling people where and when they couldn’t go as long as it was peaceful, and didn’t otherwise trespass on other’s property. This was of course in response to how the during the colonial period the British Army and Governors loyal to the Crown enforced travel restrictions on the colonists to prevent assemblage of protests, town gatherings, and organization of protest organizations.

After the Civil War, when re-admitted Confederacy states tried to pass laws abridging the freedoms of former slaves, Congress initiated the 14th Amendment which was ratified on July 9, 1868.

The 14th Amendment, Section 1. was specifically written to ensure “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of the citizens… without Due Process of law.” This means the Bill of Rights guarantees of individual liberties applies to the States just as it does to the Federal government.

There is no Crisis clause in the Constitution that allows the Federal government or the Governors to abridge the freedoms in the Bill of Rights without Due Process. But you can be sure the Democrat-Socialists are going to test this in the Courts. That is why they are fundamentally opposed to “textualist” Supreme Court Justices that will put a stop to this nonsense from Democrats.

leowaj
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 30, 2020 1:45 pm

Joel, I agree with what you are saying but keep in mind who we’re talking about: the leftists. The far left in particular. They could not care less about the Constitution. They are trying to get all the power they can so that they can essential make the Constitution an historical document rather than the most important legal document of US.

It’s rather like telling a child that stealing is wrong but the child doesn’t care about right vs. wrong… only taking what’s not his own.

Reply to  leowaj
September 30, 2020 2:13 pm

I was about to say the same thing – the Constitution is irrelevant to those who want to rewrite it for their own self-serving ends.

MarkW
Reply to  Joel Snider
September 30, 2020 4:03 pm

As soon as the Democrats pack the court with 4 or 5 far left activist judges, the constitution will be officially dead.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  MarkW
September 30, 2020 4:30 pm

The number of Supreme Court Justices is set by law at 9 by the Judiciary Act of 1869. So in order to change the number of Justices the Demorats would have to go through the process of amending that Act or writing a new one. That would bring immense scrutiny down on them and expose their plot.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  MarkW
September 30, 2020 4:49 pm

Which is why Joe Biden refused to answer that simple question in last night’s debate. The Rabid Leftists in his party will need him to sign the Bill they pass expanding the Supreme Court. They will not have 2/3 majorities in both Senate and House they would need to override a Presidential veto of such an expansion of the Court. And they’ll first eliminate the lat vestiges of the Senate filibuster to pass in that if the Dems can take the amjority there as well in next year’s Congress.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
September 30, 2020 5:22 pm

If there are 51 Democrats in the Senate and a Democrat president, both will be easy.

How will there be immense scrutiny, when the mainstream media will completely ignore the laws being changed?

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 30, 2020 3:44 pm

Several States have passed statutes that give Governors such power. Passage of legislation is considered due process. Please note that I am not defending Governors taking such drastic, long lasting actions, I just want to point out the state legislatures can and have given Governors the authority to do so.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Tom in Florida
September 30, 2020 4:38 pm

States passed Jim Crow laws as well. Those civil rights violating laws operated for almost a century until the Supreme Court “woke up” and ended them.

So just because the some States have passed laws that presume to allow the Governor to limit Americans’ their rights protected in the 1st Amendment doesn’t mean in any way they will get a “pass” from a Supreme Court, if that Court is honest to the text and the intent of the Constitution.

And saying they did such and such in 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic or 1957 Flu epidemic in no way means they can be squared with today’s case law as laid down by multiple Supreme Court rulings over the past 70 years.

These points are exactly why the Left is so transfixed on trying to stop a textualist-conservative majority on the Supreme Court. The Left’s last 50 years of Liberal Project is now at risk for them if Amy Coney Barrett is confirmed and they can’t pack the Supreme Court with 4 Liberals in the next 4 years. This goes far beyond just the Left’s power grabs like the Obama Clean Power Plan and other power grabs disguised as environmental issues.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 30, 2020 5:21 pm

Thank you Joel.

“The First Amendment guarantees basic freedoms. The Second Amendment guarantees the First.”

Steve Case
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 30, 2020 10:29 pm

Joel O’Bryan September 30, 2020 at 1:23 pm:

There is no Crisis clause in the Constitution that allows the Federal government or the Governors to abridge the freedoms in the Bill of Rights without Due Process. But you can be sure the Democrat-Socialists are going to test this in the Courts. That is why they are fundamentally opposed to “textualist” Supreme Court Justices that will put a stop to this nonsense from Democrats.

The Kelo decision 15 years ago illustrates that perfectly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London

shrnfr
September 30, 2020 2:34 pm

I am all in favor of making the property next to Nancy Peolsi’s house, a low income multi-family residence. Come to think of it, on both sides and in back too while we are at it.

ExCali
September 30, 2020 3:00 pm

I’m a long time reader of this website but never posted before. I particularly find the readers responses very illuminating. So want to know what people here thought about this piece of news.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20200928/thousands-of-trapped-sheep-rescued-after-shock-french-alps-snowstorm

Tom in Florida
September 30, 2020 3:47 pm

Coming to a town near you:

William Haas
September 30, 2020 5:00 pm

The reality is that, based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, the climate change we have been experiencing is very small and is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale to support the conclusion that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. So all of the efforts to reduce CO2 emissions will have no effect on climate. For those who still believe in the radiametric greenhouse effect which has not been observed anywhere in the solar system, on Earth the primary greenhouse gas is H2O and not CO2. Molecule per molecule, H2O is a stronger IR absorber than is CO2 and on average there is 50 times more H2O in the atmosphere than there is CO2. All of these efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, are doing nothing to reduce H2O in the atmosphere and hence have almost no effect on that total radiametric effect caused by greenhouse gases. It is all a matter of science.

September 30, 2020 5:22 pm

Thank you Joel.

“The First Amendment guarantees basic freedoms. The Second Amendment guarantees the First.”

Patrick MJD
September 30, 2020 5:47 pm

“COVID ‘has revealed the inner-tyrants of many politicians’”

Look at Chairman Dan in Victoria, Australia. I had a remote interview today and one of the interviewers was at their corporate head office in Melbourne. He has to wear a mask, indoors, while at work. Mandated by Chairman Dan.

pat
September 30, 2020 6:29 pm

meanwhile, in China:

1 Oct: MSN: Reuters: Energy security and economic fears drive China’s return to coal
by David Stanway; Additional reporting by Muyu Xu in Beijing
President Xi Jinping surprised the world last week by pledging China would aim for “carbon neutrality” by 2060, but Beijing remains worried about energy security, jobs and growth, especially as the economy recovers from the COVID-19 pandemic…
Yet China still added 11.4 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity in the first six months of 2020, more than half the amount built worldwide during the period. A study by research group Global Energy Monitor (GEM), also showed that nearly 250 GW of coal-fired plants are under development in China – enough to power Europe’s biggest economy, Germany…
“New coal plants are a way for provinces to support other industries like coal mining and heavy industry,” said Christine Shearer, coal programme director at GEM, which tracks fossil fuel infrastructure worldwide.
“You have a lot of entrenched coal interests in China and the central government has not reined them in, despite Beijing’s strong support for clean energy,” she said.
Neither China’s energy regulator nor the provincial government in Gansu responded to requests to comment for this story. Huaneng did not immediately respond to faxed questions…

But some experts believe projects such as the Zhengning plant show coal is making a comeback. And despite Xi’s surprise announcement at the United Nations, China is not expecting its carbon dioxide emissions to peak until 2030, at the latest…

Experts fear the decision by U.S. President Donald Trump to withdraw from the 2015 Paris Agreement has eased the pressure on Beijing to be more ambitious…

“Beijing is reluctant to do anything that might slow economic growth, which is why you see the central government slapping the provinces on the wrist for all the newly permitted plants … but not actually doing anything about them,” said Shearer at GEM.
Amid growing geopolitical tensions, power projects fueled by domestic coal could also become more attractive because the government is keen to improve self-sufficiency and ease its dependence on foreign energy supplies.
China has the third largest coal reserves in the world but it became a net importer of the fossil fuel in 2009 and has been the world’s biggest importer of oil in 2017…

China wants to ensure its recovery is not disrupted by the sort of crippling power shortages that hit the country in 2011.
Some also argue China needs more coal-fired projects to provide the stable baseload required during periods of heavy demand, said an official at a leading power firm who declined to be identified as he was not authorised to speak to the media…
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/energy-security-and-economic-fears-drive-china-s-return-to-coal/ar-BB19AuFn?ocid=msedgntp

eck
September 30, 2020 6:43 pm

Not so coincidentally, his topic is a significant one in the race for Mayor of my CA city. The 3 candidates are all liberals and have bought into the “climate change emergency” scam, but one has a much more sensible view on this topic. “Preserve single-family zoning, further housing only where parking and road capacity can handle it”. The other 2, “Convert some single family homes to duplexes. Add ADUs (“Granny units”).
“Upzone” neighborhoods to greater density, especially near (public transit)” and “More housing near (public transit) to get more people “to take public transit more as we add density””.
Guess whom I’m voting for.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  eck
September 30, 2020 8:08 pm

I found out recently, it does not matter how many votes are cast for a candidate in each state. What matters is at the electoral college level. The candidate who wins more EC votes (270) becomes the President. Unless the Russians get involved, again, I am confident Trump will win, again.

Old Goat
October 1, 2020 2:31 am

The “wire” was an antenna, connected to the pen-injector device up his sleeve. The pen would administer a shot of something by remote command, via the “wire”, should Biden show signs of flagging.

B d Clark
October 1, 2020 2:32 am

Covid ,paramilitary police in the uk, laws that bypass parliamentary scrutiny brought in by boris,

A short video describing how this has come about, a speech by Winston Churchill at the end is perhaps more prominent today ( particularly for Americans) than at any other time in modern history.

https://youtu.be/u0jn7rRHhXg

October 1, 2020 2:52 am

Covid is already the cover for climate policies – the main one being the destruction of western economies.

Just Jenn
October 1, 2020 5:51 am

Covid is a test. That’s all there is to it, it’s a test run.

What new buzzwords have come out of this debacle:
1. Believe in Science
2. Mandates for public health
3. Flatten the curve and when that didn’t work: Stay Home, Stay Safe.
4. Protect others by your actions (i.e. wearing a mask)

Now what has also come out of this:
1. The US Government’s flaws, schemes and corruption revealed across parties and platforms. We’ve long known that Washington is a lobbyist’s wet dream and now, it’s more evident than not.
2. States have more rights than they thought they did (which by the way is a good thing).
3. CA is a total nightmare of mismanagement and overinflated regulations (which they’ve known for decades).
4. Racism is rampant and aligned with political ideals.

What can come out of this:
1. States start telling the feds to back the hell off and let them govern themselves as they are allowed to do in the Constitution.
2. The American People will once again be fighting to be heard.
3. Peace
4. Civil War
5. Mass skepticism of being spoonfed information (fantasy maybe)
6. A nationwide desire to be left alone
7. HOPEFULLY: a resurgence of interest in public service (have any of you counted how many elected positions that only have 1 candidate are on your ballots? I have and guess what? There are only 2 positions on my ballot that have more than 1 candidate..that’s a shame).

Let’s be honest here, without the politics involved–this entire debacle has shown America’s ugly underbelly. The debate was an embarrassment, watching two septuagenarians talking over one another like toddlers. Nothing was learned about the platforms of each candidate, nothing was coherently discussed by either candidate, and nothing was presented to the people (who actually rule this country) in favor of 1 or the other candidate. What was discussed exactly? FEAR. That’s it, from BOTH Sides at the same time creating noise instead of solutions. Neither side was allowed to discuss their plans of action or their proposals for the country. It disintegrated into finger pointing and playground bullying. I think the next debate should be virtual–the question presented and the other party on mute for 2 minutes each with a 1 minute rebuttal and liberal usage of the MUTE button.

And before the replies come in about how I’m a progressive liberal communist–I am neither. I align more with conservative in both fiscal and free democratic society of equality of the Republicans and care of the people of the Democrats. I am smack in the middle of both parties which is why I am in Independent.

Beta Blocker
October 1, 2020 10:42 am

Joe Biden said in Tuesday night’s debate that he is the Democratic Party and that he has his own approach for handling climate change and for reducing America’s carbon emissions — one which isn’t necessarily the Green New Deal.

But he didn’t describe in any detail what his own plan looks like other than to say it will create millions of new jobs.

Last month, I posted a plan for reducing America’s carbon emissions 80% by 2050, which was former President Obama’s original goal as stated in 2012.

My plan is entitled the Supply Side Carbon Emission Control Plan (SSCECP). It uses a series of Executive Orders which combine existing provisions of the Clean Air Act with existing provisions of national security legislation to create an integrated regulatory approach for increasing the cost of all carbon fuels and for systematically restricting their future availability.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/09/16/republican-led-commission-recommends-a-carbon-tax/#comment-3085304

The SSCECP is perfectly legal and constitutional and could be fully implemented by the Executive Branch without another word of new legislation being needed from Congress.

Now that Joe Biden has disavowed the Green New Deal as currently written, at least in part, then the question must be asked, what is Biden’s true goal? Is it reducing America’s carbon emissions, or is it creating new jobs?

The fact is that if reducing carbon emissions is the main goal, a plan very similar to the SSCECP — one which uses the coercive power of the federal government to quickly reduce emissions — is the only way to get there within the short timeframe climate activists say is necessary.

Just Jenn
Reply to  Beta Blocker
October 2, 2020 5:24 am

“Now that Joe Biden has disavowed the Green New Deal as currently written, at least in part, then the question must be asked, what is Biden’s true goal? Is it reducing America’s carbon emissions, or is it creating new jobs?”

Its creating new jobs. Biden has his own plan and it took some digging to find some references of increasing nuclear and hydro, waste and land management, and creating anywhere from 100K – 700K new jobs in the process.

From the nether regions of beyond the freaking news headlines–Biden’s plan will emphasis the growth, maintenance and strength of the energy sector and backbone of the US. Nothing on how much it will cost but I did see a few “HINTS” that his plan would re-examine and reduce restrictive regulations on nuclear development.

Beta Blocker
Reply to  Just Jenn
October 2, 2020 10:39 am

Just Jenn, having spent thirty-five years in nuclear construction and operations, my view on the future of nuclear power here in America is that the largest obstacle by far to greater reliance on nuclear is its high upfront capital cost.

Just as it is with wind and solar, going with nuclear power is strictly a public policy decision. In the absence of government intervention in the energy marketplace, as long as natural gas is cheap, plentiful, and easily available through transportation systems such as pipelines and even rail transport of LNG, power generation and marketing will move strongly towards gas-fired generation.

If public policy decision makers want nuclear as a highly reliable and safe backup for gas-fired generation and for the renewables, wind and solar, this cannot happen unless the nuclear construction industry can get its capital costs under control.

If it is done nuclear, a thoroughly professional job must be done beginning to end. That said, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) has already gone as far as public opinion will allow it to go in reducing its regulatory requirements for new build construction and for ongoing nuclear operations.

The only way nuclear’s high capital costs can be successfully controlled here in America is to do what NuScale has done with their SMR project and that is to treat the NRC as a full project partner in doing a professional job from beginning to end.

The massive cost overruns of the VC Summer and Vogtle AP1000 reactor projects demonstrate what can happen when the project managers don’t walk the talk of doing a professional job in managing their nuclear construction activities.

The failure of the VC Summer and the Vogtle 3 & 4 power reactor projects to meet their original cost and schedule commitments demonstrates that building the large AP1000 size reactors is not a smart move in the United States.

The problem here is that if the construction job involves nuclear, an excellent job must be done in every phase of the project if the NRC’s quality assurance standards are to be met.

The VC Summer and the Vogtle 3 & 4 projects paid only lip service to meeting their QA commitments; much of the work was not done to acceptable standards; and so the projects ended up paying for everything twice, doubling the cost and schedule for completing the plants.

As it stands today, going with the small modular reactors (SMR’s) and their highly standardized technology is the only pathway the nuclear construction industry now has for keeping its costs under control, thus making it easier for public policy decision makers to choose nuclear over other alternatives in the face of stiff competition from natural gas.

The NuScale SMR team out of Portland, Oregon is by far the furthest along in getting a working small modular reactor into production. They have financial backing from Fluor, they have access to Fluor’s extensive EPC experience, they have a customer in Utah for their SMR design, they have a construction site identified in eastern Idaho, they have an experienced reactor operator, Energy Northwest on their team, and they now have the NRC’s approval for their SMR design.

If the talk I am hearing among nuclear construction professionals is on the mark, all hope for a nuclear revival in the US now hinges on NuScale being successful with their SMR design in keeping their capital costs under control at a projected $4,200 per kWe. We should know by 2027 if that’s how things actually turn out.

But this brings us back to the topic of how quickly climate activists want America’s carbon emissions to be reduced. It is impossible for the nuclear construction industry to ramp up as quickly as would be necessary to fully support the activist’s GHG reduction schedule.

If the climate activist’s target is an 80% reduction in America’s carbon emissions by 2050, the only way to go that far that fast is through a highly coercive plan along the lines of the one I’ve described above, the Supply Side Carbon Emission Control Plan (SSCECP).

October 1, 2020 11:45 pm

Anthony,

Refute them on their own terms.

Water vapor is a greenhouse gas. There is on average 50 times as much of it in the atmosphere as CO2. Explain how CO2 is dominant?

I have had warmists reply to that with clap trap about how water vapor is not persistent. So. What? Do what the earth does. Integrate. Sum over time.

Just Jenn
Reply to  M Simon
October 2, 2020 5:24 am

I have had warmists reply to that with clap trap about how water vapor is not persistent.

What do they think humidity is?

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