Nancy Pelosi: “Mother Earth is angry”… A 9/11 non sequitur

Guest “How many non sequiturs can fit in two paragraphs?” by David Middleton

Non sequitur?

Definition of non sequitur

1: an inference (see INFERENCE sense 1) that does not follow from the premises (see PREMISE entry 1 sense 1)specificallya fallacy resulting from a simple conversion of a universal affirmative (see AFFIRMATIVE entry 1 sense 3) proposition or from the transposition of a condition and its consequent (see CONSEQUENT entry 1 sense 1)

2: a statement (such as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously saidWe were talking about the new restaurant when she threw in some non sequitur about her dog.

Did You Know?

In Latin, non sequitur means “it does not follow.” 

Merriam-Webster

How many non sequiturs can fit in two paragraphs?

Focus on the last two quoted paragraphs:

Pelosi: ‘Mother Earth Is Angry — She’s Telling Us with Hurricanes on the Gulf Coast, Fires in the West’

by JEFF POOR 10 Sep 2020

Thursday on MSNBC’s “The Reidout,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) attributed the wildfires plaguing her state and hurricanes that have batter the Gulf Coast to so-called climate change.

According to Pelosi, the natural disasters were a sign that “Mother Earth is angry.”

[…]

“Here we are, on the eve of 9/11, the 19th anniversary of 9/11, as we are filled with sadness, continued to be filled with sadness about those who lost their lives at that time and since from consequences of 9/11,” Pelosi said. “That was going to be our focus this week. We have these fires in California, and in the West, 16 people have died in Washington, Oregon, and California, including a firefighter and a 1-year-old baby. We — our firefighters have been so, very, very courageous.”

“Now, we’re, again, breaking records. Mother Earth is angry,” she continued. “She’s telling us — whether – she’s telling us with hurricanes on the Gulf Coast, fires in the West, whatever it is, that climate crisis is real and has an impact. I hear — I came over the weekend back to Washington. It was unhealthy and smoky, that was how they described the air then. Now, it has gotten much worse, and I’m hearing regularly on the ongoing from my constituents about the concern they have about the fires and the air quality, the loss of life, and over 34 million acres burned. That’s an historic number. Again, sadness over 9/11 complicated by our concern about the fires, at the same time as we’re dealing with a coronavirus and finding out that the president of the United States didn’t address it in the serious way that it needed to be addressed early on.”

Breitbart

How many non sequiturs?

These items do “not follow” from preceding statements:

  1. Linking 9/11 to “fires in California, and in the West.”
  2. Linking “16 people have died in Washington, Oregon, and California, including a firefighter and a 1-year-old baby. We — our firefighters have been so, very, very courageous” (or anything) to “Now, we’re, again, breaking records.”
  3. Linking “Now, we’re, again, breaking records” (or anything) to “Mother Earth is angry.”
  4. Linking “She’s telling us” with “hurricanes on the Gulf Coast, fires in the West, whatever it is” (or anything)… Although “whatever it is” is often cited as evidence for Gorebal Warming.
  5. Linking “sadness over 9/11” to “concern about the fires” to “dealing with a coronavirus”… A serial non sequitur.
  6. And the mother of all non sequitur fallacies… Linking “Here we are, on the eve of 9/11, the 19th anniversary of 9/11” to President Trump “didn’t address it in the serious way that it needed to be addressed early on.”

I had to read the passage several times to figure out what President Trump “didn’t address it in the serious way that it needed to be addressed early on.”

  • 9/11? No. That lack of addressing was from 1995 to September 10, 2001.
  • The “climate crisis”? It doesn’t exist.

It must be the Communist Chinese virus that she thinks President Trump “didn’t address it in the serious way that it needed to be addressed early on.”

Addressing the virus “early on”

President Trump, January 31, 2020

Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus

HEALTHCARE

 Issued on: January 31, 2020

The United States has confirmed cases of individuals who have a severe acute respiratory illness caused by a novel (new) coronavirus (“2019-nCoV”) (“the virus”) first detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province, People’s Republic of China (“China”).  The virus was discovered in China in December 2019.  As of January 31, 2020, Chinese health officials have reported approximately 10,000 confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in China, more than the number of confirmed cases of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) during its 2003 outbreak.  An additional 114 cases have been confirmed across 22 other countries; in several of these cases, the infected individuals had not visited China.  More than 200 people have died from the virus, all in China.

[…]

NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 212(f) and 215(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 U.S.C. 1182(f) and 1185(a), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, hereby find that the unrestricted entry into the United States of persons described in section 1 of this proclamation would, except as provided for in section 2 of this proclamation, be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and that their entry should be subject to certain restrictions, limitations, and exceptions.  I therefore hereby proclaim the following:

Section 1.  Suspension and Limitation on Entry.   The entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of all aliens who were physically present within the People’s Republic of China, excluding the Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau, during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States is hereby suspended and limited subject to section 2 of this proclamation.

[…]

The White House

Nancy Pelosi, February 24, 2020

Addressing the virus in a “serious way”

You can’t get much more serious than having one of the lowest case fatality rates in the civilized world…

91-DIVOC

Achieving one of the lowest case fatality rates while suffering less economic impact than most other western “democracies” might be one way to get more serious…

Our World in Data

The Q2 2020 decline in US GDP was the largest on record, equivalent to a -32.9% annual decline – This made headline news.

CNBC

The current forecast for Q3 2020 (+30.8%) would be the largest quarterly economic expansion since World War II – This won’t be mentioned by the lamestream media.

Latest estimate: 30.8 percent — September 10, 2020 Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta

I suppose President Trump could have encouraged the states to lock their economies down even more tightly, but it doesn’t appear the the self-inflicted economic damage had any effect on the fatality rate.

Our World in Data

“Mother Earth is angry”

This is an improvement over 8 years ago, when “Mother Earth” was dying…

21 Jump Street is almost as funny as 22 Jump Street!

If “Mother Earth” is angry now, she must have bee royally p!$$ed off in 1930.

National Interagency Fire Center

NIFC states that pre-1983 data were not as well-documented as subsequent years. However, 2020 is very well-documented…

2020 (1/1/20 – 9/11/20)Fires: 41,794Acres: 5,496,248
NIFC

On the other hand, Nancy Pelosi is full of schist…

It was unhealthy and smoky, that was how they described the air then. Now, it has gotten much worse, and I’m hearing regularly on the ongoing from my constituents about the concern they have about the fires and the air quality, the loss of life, and over 34 million acres burned.

Breitbart

9/11

As I was writing this, it dawned on me that my ridicule of Nancy Pelosi’s trivialization of 9/11 might, in some way, also trivialize 9/11. This was not my intention.

Not a day goes my when I don’t thank God for the Thin Red Line and the Thin Blue Line.

107 thoughts on “Nancy Pelosi: “Mother Earth is angry”… A 9/11 non sequitur

    • Both Mother Earth and Mother Nature cannot contain their anger at Nanci…and Janie Fonda….for failing to protect her interests….both breathe out 4% CO2 daily which shows their contempt for both Mothers. Just stop it Nanci…and you too Janie.

  1. Pelosi wants to have the baby and abort her, too. Surely, she is playing with a double-edged scalpel. Time will tell whether Americans will stand or kneel on the divide.

  2. **** BREAKING NEWS!!! ****

    Science Discovers Densest Element Known!
    by Rational Db8; Hillariumologist with a fellowship in Pelosium and related elemental studies, PhD Nuclear Politics

    PRECAUTIONARY NOTICE: Pelosiphiles may become warped and bent out of shape from the activation energy of reading about Pelosium – proceed with caution!

    A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the densest element yet known to science. The new element has been named Pelosium. The chemical symbol of Pelosium is Pu². Pelosium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311. These particles are held together by dark particles called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

    Pelosium’s mass actually increases over time, as morons randomly interact with various elements in the atmosphere and become assistant deputy neutrons within the Pelosium molecule, leading to the formation of isodopes. This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientist to believe that Pelosium is formed whenever morons reach a certain density in voting concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as Critical Morass.

    When catalyzed with money, Pelosium activates MSNBCobnoxium and CNNadnausium, both elements that radiate orders of magnitude more energy, albeit as incoherent noise, since they have half as many peons but twice as many morons as Pelosium.

    Since it has no electrons, Pelosium is inert. However, it can be detected chemically as it impedes every reaction it comes in contact with. According to the discoverers, a minute amount of Pelosium causes one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would have normally occurred in less than a second. In the presence of anti-morons, Pelosium can be extremely corrosive. Botox seems to distort and smooth it’s surface, without impeding it’s ongoing decay.

    Pelosium has a normal half-life of approximately two years, at which time it does not decay, but instead undergoes a transmutation, appearing in a new location but displaying the same properties. In this process, assistant neutrons, vice neutrons and assistant vice neutrons exchange places. Some studies have shown that the atomic mass actually increases after each transmutation.

    Research at other laboratories indicates that Pelosium occurs naturally in the atmosphere. It tends to concentrate at certain points such as government agencies, large corporations, universities, and anywhere there is news coverage occurring. It can usually be found in the newest, best appointed, and best maintained buildings. Researchers are now evaluating the possibility that this element’s proliferation was predicted by Einstein’s E=MC2 (Electability = Morons x Constant (the average IQ of isodopes) squared, which may have far reaching consequences in the field of physics.

    Scientists point out that Pelosium is known to be toxic at any level of concentration and can easily destroy any productive reaction where it is allowed to accumulate. Attempts are being made to determine how Pelosium can be controlled to prevent irreversible damage, but results to date are not promising. One surprising recent discovery is that Pelosium in highly controlled limited quantities may be a useful substitute for laughing gas, but research continues into that possibility.

    (h/t “New Chemical Element Discovered” short joke by William DeBuvitz about the horrors of “Administratium,” published back in the January 1989 issue of The Physics Teacher, which I transmogrified into Pelosium through a complex organic chemistry synthesis project and then added to as appropriate to generate the desired reaction product. Similar highly technical research led to the development of Hillarium (w/ Q&A session), chemical symbol Bs, and several other novel elements.)

    • Rational Dd8,
      Have you heard about the exciting new compound formed from combining aluminum, oxygen and carbon? Early research indicates that this new substance, AlOC, may actually be denser than Pelosium! I hope you will take some time out from your work on Pelosium to investigate!
      Is it true that Pelosium has been shown to cause maligNancy in most test subjects exposed to it? Please use extreme caution whenever handling these super dense substances as dropping even a minute amount can cause severe injury or death!

    • Many thanks, A piece of scientific discovery even the Dems will understand, except for Joe of course. Unfortunately, Joe is too busy with his little leaptons to have time to understand the new science…..
      A new research project, into the strange dark matter impact on Pelosium will take place after the November election I hear.

    • Rational Db8,
      I laughed so much I nearly suffocated! 🙂
      A super-dense element is named after “The gargoyle of the house”.
      Hairdresser’s are jealous saying ‘it’s a set-up’, while it is said that the ‘gargoyle of the house’ has celebrated by trucking in two more tubs of Strawberries Arnaud ice-cream.

    • Some other elements:

      Schifftium: Many times proof of its existence has been claimed but no evidence has ever been produced.

      Aocimdum: Much evidence of its existence but no one has ever been able to make sense of it.

      Bidenium: While it has no magnetic properties of its own, it has been known to shift its position to line up with the poles.

      No beneficial use has been found for any of them.

  3. How much nonsense should a non sequitur sense, if a non sequitur should sense nonsense?
    (With apologies to woodchucks)

  4. Two bright spots: 1) Nothing she said violated the constitution or U.S. House rules of behavior 2) Her hair looked terrific. Well the first one, anyway. The other is just what you say about a geriatric dementia patient.

  5. The BBC has a good story that examines the different ways coronavirus statistics tell a story. link

    One of the big problems is that different jurisdictions count the same statistic different ways. That makes it difficult to compare how different jurisdictions are doing.

    The statistic I trust most is excess deaths. You just count deaths over the average for that time of the year. You don’t have the problem of which deaths to count. Given that almost all fatal diseases have comorbidities, how do you say if the death was caused by coronavirus or not? Excess deaths don’t have that problem.

    With regard to excess deaths, America is doing very well in comparison with the rest of the world. link On August 30, America’s excess deaths were -20%. That means 20% fewer people died than average for that date. Pretty impressive.

    • Excess deaths – raw – are about as addlepated a measure as siting your weather station at the local major airport. On this day, nineteen years ago, the reported high for Tucson was 7 degrees (Fahrenheit) BELOW the “expected” number. Absolutely nothing to do with climate, or even weather – absolutely everything to do with Islamic terrorists.

      There was a spike in excess deaths earlier in the year – partially due to CoViD as a contributing factor, but far more to do with political malfeasance. Suicides way up. Drug overdoses way up. Cardiovascular event deaths such as cardiac arrest and stroke (without any “influenza like symptoms”) way up. “Thanks” to the virus AND the over-blown hysteria over it, a large number of the vulnerable died earlier in the year than they would have otherwise. So it is no surprise that excess deaths are now lower than expected for this time of year. (Unless we do actually have a “bad flu season,” they’ll likely stay that way for several months.)

      • The reason you can make that argument for America is that America isn’t doing nearly as badly as you would expect given all the propaganda.

        The excess death graph on the linked page is interactive so you can add other countries. Look at the excess deaths for Spain, England & Wales, and Italy. Coronavirus is the only plausible explanation for what happened in those countries.

    • On August 30, America’s excess deaths were -20%. That means 20% fewer people died than average for that date. Pretty impressive.

      American is doing well compared to many other nations that way. However, using the single point of Aug. 30 is pretty misleading. Aug. 16th we were still +3%, and it was notably high all before that during the pandemic. Still not as bad as many other nations, but far above the prior years average.

  6. There is evidence that the fires have been set by arsonists in California, Oregon and Washington. Someone has already been arrested for it, but I do not have the name or which state. I think it was Washington. He was caught in the act of starting a new fire.

    There is likely more to come on this, but do not expect any kind of reality-connected statements from the corner of the room in which Pelosi sits. She is, to put it bluntly, very opportunistic. Unfortunately, what she said in that public statement is baloney and easily disproved, as is shown here.

    My opinion of it all is unpublishable. 🙂

  7. Just some random facts. Totally not related. Kind of a non sequitur I guess.

    US life expectancy female, 81.1 years
    Nancy Pelosi will be 81.1 next May.

    • Similar but different
      In Alberta, life expectancy is 82

      Covid deaths average is 83, that is the average

    • Yeah, well, Nancy is going to be found at her desk, staring straight ahead into nothing, with that gavel gripped so tightly in her hand that it can’t be removed. She’ll take it to her casket with her.

  8. Covid data only partially helpful.
    It’s not just gdp drop, but also government spending.
    It’s not just 2nd quarter. Here in Australia ( not listed) our lockdown and significant gdp drop will be 3rd quarter. Australia’s result will further screw the data.

  9. Ari Fleischer, the former WH press secretary with with George Bush on 9/11.
    Ari provides a good timeline and insight of what POTUS was doing. – check out his Twitter.

    One image I will never forget was when George Bush was told about the second plane hitting the world trade centre while reading a book to children.
    I never new he already knew about the first.

    • Pretty sure no-one told the Bush about the Reichstagsbrandt. His granpa Prescott was a well known Hitler funder, and would have understood. Not the latter, though, learning to read a book.

      The Constitution was almost erased, and full surveillance under NSA chief Hayden’s “Trailblazer” program. See NSA whistleblower Bill Binney on that.
      So a failed Reichstagsbrandt, which means they will try something again.

      • This is a despicable comment. And made on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Shame!

        The Reichstagsbrand (not Reichstagsbrandt) was the fire set in the German parliament in 1933 and used by the Nazis as a pretext to suspend civil liberties shortly after Hitler became Chancellor. It was blamed on a Dutch communist van der Lubbe, but may have been actually set by the Nazi paramilitary SA (Sturmabteilung).

        Your cryptic raving here implies that George W Bush was involved in the 9/11 attacks and used them as a pretext to suspend civil liberties and prosecute wars against Al Qaeda and Iraq.

        If that is not what you mean, then explain your comment.

        Anthony and Charles- is this sort of comment tolerable on WUWT?

        • Pretty sure 9/1 Truther crap violates the rules here… When it’s couched in long-winded, rambling diatribes, most people don’t read it, much less, pick up on it.

        • It’s not, and I will discuss with Anthony.

          However, with the current censorious nature of certain groups with power, I hesitate to censor much.

  10. Slightly OT
    Generation Z are just starting to become eligible to vote.
    These are the children (now adults) who did not witness the shock and subsequent change of attitudes on their parents face.

  11. The Chinchaga fire, also known as the Wisp fire, Chinchaga River fire and Fire 19,[1] was a forest fire that burned in northern British Columbia and Alberta in the summer and early fall of 1950. With a final size of between 1,400,000 hectares (3,500,000 acres) and 1,700,000 hectares (4,200,000 acres), it is the single largest recorded fire in North American history.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinchaga_fire

  12. Pelosi is a classic example of a Democrat turned Progressive that doesn’t understand what the new party platform (oxymoron) stands for. Probably because there is no platform other than defeat Trump. All the recent riots prove where the Progressives are going…. anarchy followed by their saving the people with Marxism. Years of American apathy and easy life are wearing away and turning to protection so good luck with that.

  13. David,
    Is it just my imagination or is she starting to sound like Dementia Joe? I wonder if she lectures Gavin against working with Trump while enjoying her overpriced frozen treats?
    The DemoKKKrats were responsible for the Russia Collusion Hoax, the hysteria over and politicization of the ChiCom-19 Virus and may be party to some Biden Loves Money rioters setting fires to push the global warming scam! What will those crazy kids think of next!?
    After killing tens of thousands with their crazy ChiCom-19 policies I wouldn’t put anything past them!

  14. Nancy should know. She and Mother Earth were in Pre-school together before Nancy’s parents took her out with the dirt kids and put her in private school.

  15. “We have these fires in California, and in the West, 16 people have died in Washington, Oregon, and California, including a firefighter and a 1-year-old baby. We — our firefighters have been so, very, very courageous.”

    “Now, we’re, again, breaking records. Mother Earth is angry,” she continued. “She’s telling us — whether – she’s telling us with hurricanes on the Gulf Coast, fires in the West, whatever it is, that climate crisis is real and has an impact. I hear — I came over the weekend back to Washington. It was unhealthy and smoky, that was how they described the air then. Now, it has gotten much worse, and I’m hearing regularly on the ongoing from my constituents about the concern they have about the fires and the air quality, the loss of life, and over 34 million acres burned. That’s an historic number.”

    There is actually a word in the English language for her genius in these climate science attributions.

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/08/03/confirmationbias/

  16. this Twitter feed is following the various arrests of arsonist etc
    https://twitter.com/KatieDaviscourt

    behind paywall:

    11 Sept: WSJ: California’s Wildfire Power Eclipse: Fires are adding to blackout risks as they strike solar plants
    by WSJ editorial board
    Renewables like solar only provide intermittent generation, yet they account for about a third of the state’s electricity. Democratic politicians have mandated that 60% of state power by 2030 come from renewables and 100% by 2045. As a result, California is starting to experience power shortages when the sun sets or is covered by a cloud—or smoke…
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/californias-wildfire-power-eclipse-11599864717

  17. I’m unsure why they haven’t started quoting fires in square feet as the objective is to publish scarier numbers
    This is why they started reporting oil spills in liters instead of Barrels or god forbid cubic meters (which is how the industry measures).

    It’s all a game

  18. Ms Pelosi’s pronouncements bring to mind the old Buddhist adage: do not speak unless you can improve on silence.

  19. Pointing out hypocrisy, or is it dementia, doesn’t trivialize the tragedy of the day. It only shows how the hypocrites trivialize the significance of the significant in their treatment of events. You’ve spoken for those of us that clearly remember that day.

  20. So the US has one of the lowest case death rates? Come on, you’re losing the competition! Good thing that the US has the highest case number, so Trump has something to claim as a ‘badge of honour’.

    • How could the US have one of the highest infection rates and one of the lowest fatality rates?

      Are Americans physiologically superior to most other humans, enabling us to survive the disease more than others?

      Is our healthcare system so superior to the rest of the world, that Americans are being cured at a higher rate?

      Or is it that our per capita testing rate is much than most other nations, and we are reporting far more asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic cases?

        • Yes we do… It’s as good or better than any other nation. But, I don’t think it explains our low CFR.

      • It is in the fact that our college students are going to party regardless, and we end up with more young people infected than any other place. The median age of new infections in Florida dropped from 65 to 39 from March through July. The death rate per case dropped without any medical assistance.

  21. One thing’s for sure, them all commie inspired greenwash spraying politburo executives trigger master alarms on even the most insensitive and worn out BS radar.

    The right question is how come they are still in business ?

  22. Friday at 07:00 I departed for a delivery at the Corvette plant in Bowling Green, KY. My route is I-69 south to I-465 south to I-65 south. It was a dreary morning.

    On I-69 at two overpasses as I approached the junction with I-465 there were people out on the overpasses waving their flags. I gave them good blasts on the big horn as I passed under them. Then on I-465 south I pass a pickup truck with “Black Lives Matter” and “Dump the Turd Nov. 3rd” written with what appeared to be white shoe polish on the back of the cab and window.

    Perfect example of how divided this nations people are.

  23. What is so special about this? A politician is per definintion a non sequitur. A sparkling sequence of short circuits. Such stuff as ruinous dreams are made on. The very essence of politics is precisely that burst of disconnected vote-winning phrases. Heaven help us all if a politician becomes logical and consistent.

  24. until now i always thought that americans are mostly religious, believing in the existence of an elderly gentleman called ‘god’ who controls all the affairs of the entire universe down to the smallest detail.

    Now I am astonished to hear that a high priestess of the movement of the ‘Democrats’ adheres to a natural religion, which is actually only suspected in peoples completely cut off from civilization and the real world. of such peoples the ‘Mother Earth’ aka ‘Gaya’ is worshipped and sacrificed to her.
    This reminds me of a other priestess of the IPCC (Insane Party of Climate Clowns) Mrs. Christiana Figueres, who said at the opening of the meeting in cancun
    “the goddess of reason, creativity and weaving. May she inspire you — because today, you are gathered in Cancun to weave together the elements of a solid response to climate change, using both reason and creativity as your tools. Excellencies, the goddess Ixchel would probably tell you that a tapestry is the result of the skilful interlacing of many threads,”

    Now another young woman from Sweden runs around the world preaching ‘repentance’.

    as a convinced pastafari and follower of the church of the flying spaghetti monster i slowly start to have doubts if my god can protect me from these women. I live in germany and also there rules a woman who absolutely wants to change the world…i am afraid…you know, german angst…

    • Actually Pelosi quoted the Roman Catholoc Pope’s Encyclical, see below. That was written by German citizen Dr. John Schellnhuber CBE, former head of the Potsdam Climate Institute. He was dubbed CBE by the Queen personally in 2004 at the Berlin Embassy. He is well known at WUWT.

      Figueres needs to check her historiography – the Spanish conqueror, Hernán Cortés, tells us about another place in Acalan where unmarried young women were sacrificed to a goddess in whom “they had much faith and hope”, possibly again Ix Chel.

      These pagan gods were often cannibals, an unreasonable table habit, even for a mad tea-party.

      • Worth repeating GK Chesterton”When people stop believing in God they don’t believe in nothing.They believe in anything. ” As a practising Catholic I am scandalized by the pope’ s stance on climate change.

  25. As far as I know Pelosi is very Catholic, as is Joe Biden. Biden, although a number of parishes have banned him from receiving communion due to his support for abortion, points to his faith as the basis for his commitment to returning to a dark age. On his campaign website, (JoeBiden.com) he cites Pope Francis’ encyclical Laudato Si’ for instructing him on his approach to climate change.
    And now we have Pelosi directly quoting Laudato Si, Pope Francis’s Encyclical, a paean to Gaia.

    Amusingly, that Encyclical was actually written by Sir John Schellnhuber, CBE, Commander of the British Empire.
    No kidding, it looks like the Dems are already British subjects. So Britain has recovered half of the US.

    There must be a decisive electoral majority in November, or the US becomes , again, a colony of a new British Empire. Will a republic of the people, by the people, for the people, all the people survive the pervasive onslaught?

  26. Rud,
    That CFR plot diminishes your credibility. CFR is primarily controlled by historical testing capacity development, as I am sure you already know.
    There are 156 countries in the world with populations over one million. Of all of these countries, only 8 of them today have a recorded COVID-19 population fatality rate which is higher than the USA – 3 countries in Europe and 5 in South America. This is not something to be bragging about.

      • David,
        My apologies for attributing your misleading diagram to Rud. I managed to cross-thread.

        “The infection rate is controlled by testing capacity.”
        No, not exactly. The infection rate is controlled by the actual spread of the disease, and is generally not known with any accuracy. The testing capacity controls only the number of positive cases recorded by RT-PCR – which is often less than 10% of actual infections, to judge from serological studies. A high Case Fatality Rate cannot be simply translated into a high Infection Fatality Rate, since it often just indicates a relatively low testing capacity, and vice versa. Hence a low CFR does not mean that a country is managing well, and a high CFR does not mean that it is managing badly, apart from having had relatively poor testing capacity in place.

        Population Fatality Rate, on the other hand, gives a more unambiguous indication of which countries are faring well or badly. On this measure, the USA is 9th from the bottom out of 156 countries.

        • Horst schist.

          USA: 600/1,000,000 = 0.0006 = 0.06%… 99.4% of the population didn’t die with ChiCom-19.

          Germany: 140/1,000,000 = 0.00014 = 0.014%… 99.86% of the population didn’t die with ChiCom-19.

          A statistically insignificant difference, just like the CFR difference between the US and Germany…


          The standard libtard would cite Germany as a nation that handled ChiCom-19 far better than the Trump administration.

          • David,
            You are throwing out more red herrings here than a Chinese fishing boat.

            The graph that you include above of PFR vs Q2 GDP change is not so much schist as fubarite. It is a complete digression from the point I am making. It is also uninterpretable. It has multiple problems, starting with massive censoring of data which is what yields a misleading impression of possible correlation. There are 69 countries (44%) with recorded PFR values below 20/million and 99 countries (63%) with recorded PFR values below 40/million. If included, they would produce a dark carpet of points spread across the bottom of this graph, so where are they? The relatively few countries selected from this low PFR class are massively overweighted to Far East nations with best-in-class performance in test, track and trace and who managed to limit the deceleration of their economies – a dense cluster in the lower RH quadrant. On the other hand 11 of the 15 countries in the worst performing (high PFR) decile and who also introduced draconian lockdowns have been selected; these define a more diffuse cluster in the upper left quadrant.
            The GDP measure itself on the x-axis is highly problematic given (a) the large and highly variable level of government borrowing to mitigate GDP loss which is not accounted for here in any shape or form, and (b) that it offers no discrimination/distinction between countries which have self-immolated by policy prescription (like full extended lockdown), countries which have suffered consequential losses independent of their own policy choices (eg oil producers, resource exploitation and tourist countries) and countries where large infection rates have directly damaged the economy via disruption rather than policy interventions (non-pharmaceutical or pharmaceutical). Drawing any inferences at all from these censored data is highly questionable without meta-analysis.

            Moving to your second red-herring – the USA and Germany PFR data. Firstly, you have a minor arithmetical error or a typo. You should have written “99.94% of the [USA] population did’nt die with Chi-com 19”. However, the more important error which you make is your declaration that the difference between the USA and Germany PFRs is a statistically insignificant difference. (!) Say wha? (!) This is simply false. I suggest that you apply a statistical test to compare the two proportions. There are several ways of doing it, but they will all find that the difference in PFRs is highly significant at very low p value. (The most conventional method yields a Z-value for t-test on comparison of two proportions of 167!) No tricks needed. This arises simply from the enormous size of the populations “sampled” – each Bernoulli trial is “dead or not dead so far” on a sample of the entire populations of the USA and Germany.
            So in this instance your “standard libtard” would be correct to cite Germany as a nation that handled ChiCom-19 better than the Trump administration, in fact, about 4 times better using PFR as a measure.
            The above distractions do not change the main point of my first message – that CFR is a useless measure of comparative performance between countries.

            Having dispensed of the two red herrings, I simply repeat that the USA is currently 9th worse in the world out of 156 countries using PFR as a measure, and that CFR is so confounded by testing capacity that it is useless as a key performance indicator of anything other than testing capacity.

    • In many poor countries, people in remote villages who die, are just buried with no testing done.

      Trying to directly compare medical statistics between any two countries without controling for the many differences between medical systems and even how statistics are gathered is a fools errand. Though there are a lot of fools who insist on trying.

      • MarkW,
        I agree that the data is inconsistent and highly suspect, but this applies to all of the data, including the CFR data used by David in his graph. The main point I am making is that a comparison of CFR’s tells us nothing about relative performance between countries, apart from some second order indications related to testing capacity It would continue to tell us nothing even if the data were consistent and all 100% reliable. It is quite simply a terrible measure to use.

  27. “Mother Earth is angry”

    I have always said that warmuniusm is a paganism. Personifying a ball of rock is pure paganism. QED.

    It is a religion. A primitive religion, and a bad one.

  28. We are living in a divided country and can’t even decide on what divided means. “United we stand, divided we fall”. Keep up with the petty nonsensical and we will fall beyond the threshold and be doomed. Nothing more than another failed attempt at a free society in the history of the world.

    And this human shaming soundbyte is just proof that instead of messages of healing and pulling us toward each other, all we get are more messages to divide us further. And it’s not just on this either…

    Regardless of which party you subscribe to or none at all, we need to start reaching out and stop the insanity of further division. Zealotry and extremes lie like minefields in this us or them mentality. We are still allowed to disagree but at some point in a disagreement, there is common ground. I don’t see common ground at all. We’ve had 2 major disasters sweep our nation, a derecho that displaced people and decimated 10M+ acres of crops and a hurricane destroying homes, businesses and economies already wrecked by a pandemic response. Where is the US that is first in line to help out without being asked or begged to do so? Where is the US that existed in that Thank You letter from Canada, which poignantly illustrated how we as a people are always there to help our fellow humans on this Earth to rebuild, send aide if needed, help where warranted and all without an obligation to a political party to do so. Where is my country? Blindsided by the bickering on TV between TV personalities in a war for views and all the while the US burns itself to the ground bitching about how makeup is used or when to get their hair done.

  29. “Mother Earth is angry”…

    Was this from a superstitious ignorant savage with no conception, no knowledge of the Universe and its laws that Man has so far discovered? Yes. Yes, it was.

    Who voted for this clown? And why?

  30. I wonder will California voters will actually care to express their opinion in November about the obvious diverting of collective blame by the elected representatives for their lack of responsible stewardship during their administrations and reject the use of superstition by politicians to play victim.

  31. They say the best trick the Devil played was to convince people that he doesn’t exist.

    The best trick ‘Mother Earth’ played was to convince people that she does exist.

    But you need to be retarded lefty to fall for both ruses.

  32. In almost all cases, Democrats act VERY weird on TV. It seems that most of them can’t act in both natural and well behaved way:

    – either they are hysterical (“I reclaim my time” by Auntie Maxine)
    – either they are act robotic like a very bad actor with a lame script (bland “I reclaim my time” in Barr “hearing”, moronically repeated, showing lack of personal thoughts as well as lack of persona)
    – acting hyper nervous (Nancy Pelosi)
    – full, non natural happiness, as if drugged (almost all elected Dems or DNC people when on Fox News)
    – arrogant, smug, almost possessed by a demon (Peter Strzok)
    – anti Trump interviewed person so crazy the interviewer urges a commercial break (E. Jean “rape is sexy” Carroll)

    The counter example Tulsi Gabbard: she always act like normal person. Who is not on drugs. I don’t agree with all of what she says, but she doesn’t seem to come from another planet.

  33. I had to read the passage several times to figure out what President Trump “didn’t address it in the serious way that it needed to be addressed early on.”
    •9/11? No. That lack of addressing was from 1995 to September 10, 2001.
    •The “climate crisis”? It doesn’t exist.

    Well Trump wasn’t President in 2001 (or in the years prior), so just how he was supposed to address it early on is a mystery.

    As for the so-called climate crisis, He did address it early on: He declare we were getting out of the Paris boondoggle. He said he’d exit it when he ran for president. Shortly after being sworn in, he said we were exiting (effectively we were out the moment Trump was sworn in, officially we’d have to wait until the process was completed – though technically, as Congress never ratified it the argument could be made we were never really in it) . The very day that the accord allowed for him for file the paperwork for formally exiting it, he did. And come the day after election day we’re officially out per the rules of the Accord, regardless of who wins the election. Dementia Joe (or whomever is pulling his strings) vows to bring us back in if elected. Just one more reason to re-elect Trump.

  34. I know–let’s triple the carbon tax in California and use proceeds for higher teacher salaries and free stuff.

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