Friday Funny: Mann and Cook Get the Vapors

This is hilarious! It’s seems our favorite Klimate Konsensus Kooks went apoplectic when finding an article on the EPA website from Professor Richard Lindzen, blaming…of course…”fossil fueled climate deniers” marching lock-step with President Trump.

There’s only one problem; it’s 12 years old!

Not really unexpected given Mann’s problematic history with dating proxies and such. His Tweet says it all:

Even funnier: 97% consensus fabricator John Cook did the work of “debunking” the twelve year old article. He writes:


Wow! The EPA website features a webpage about global warming using a slideshow by climate denier Richard Linzen which is packed with old, well-debunked climate misinformation https://www.epa.gov/environmental-economics/global-warming-what-it-all-about h/t @bud_ward

He commits the false dichotomy fallacy arguing CO2 lagging temp in the past disproves greenhouse warming. This is debunked at http://sks.to/lag, http://youtu.be/dHozjOYHQdE (Denial101x MOOC) & http://youtu.be/mTJ3MRsULVc?list=PL1xbdG-NAkB3Jg1iemNXT8W9wGHd53YY4 (Cranky Uncle)

He argues that ocean cycles could be causing observed warming, despite the fact that they only move heat around while the planet is building up heat (at a rate of over 4 atomic bombs per second).

https://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-natural-cycle.htm

There’s single cause fallacy in that old chestnut “climate has always changed so it must be natural”, debunked at http://sks.to/past, http://youtu.be/H5kejSYPD7U (Denial101x), & http://youtu.be/JPTORGuLWOo?list=PL1xbdG-NAkB3Jg1iemNXT8W9wGHd53YY4 (Cranky Uncle)

He misrepresents the tropospheric hot spot as a signature of greenhouse warming when it’s the result of *any* type of warming – debunked at http://sks.to/hotspot & http://youtu.be/LM_sKZCv26A (Denial101x)

Much more, including a lot of ranting about consensus (recommend reading http://sks.to/consensus, http://sks.to/coc, & the Story of Climate Consensus http://youtu.be/BPNr9BeMNLk for an overview of this topic).

Originally tweeted by John Cook (@johnfocook) on September 3, 2020.


Former NYT climate apologist Andrew Revkin tried to bring some sanity to the discussion, once they all realized what had happened.

Gleick chimed in:

I hope their supply of valium is adequate to get them through the weekend.

Speaking of which, Anthony and I wish everyone a much needed rest and relaxation weekend.

46 thoughts on “Friday Funny: Mann and Cook Get the Vapors

  1. Did anyone notice Fauxci segueing into climate solutions in a recent paper?

    Living in greater harmony with nature will require changes in human behavior as well as other radical changes that may take decades to achieve : rebuilding the infrastructures of human existence, from cities to homes to workplaces, to water and sewer systems , to recreational and gatherings venues.

    https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674%2820%2931012-6 (links to pdf)

    • Dr. Falsi is looking more and more like part of the Covid-19 full-Gulag lockdown scam.

      Subject: The Alberta Teachers Association (ATA) and the False Crisis of Global Warming Alarmism – Part 7

      The World Health Organization (WHO) recently advocated the “shotgun marriage” of the Covid-19 recovery and global warming alarmism, as stated by its Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. Similarly, Prime Minister Trudeau recently announced his “legacy”, an extreme-left Green New Deal for Canada, based on the same bizarre correlation of Covid-19 and climate change. Both are preaching the same irrational insanity.

      It is clear that Covid-19 and global warming are NOT even remotely related, and no honest, rational person could be so stupid to suggest they are. Climate activists have certainly been this deliberately, aggressively stupid for decades – that is their standard tactic to shout down the many credible disproofs of their false global warming (CAGW) narrative.

      The only common factor in global warming alarmism and the full-Gulag Covid-19 lockdown is they are both false crises, and in all probability are the two greatest frauds, in terms of squandered money and needless human suffering, in human history.

      Marc Morano describes the WHO’s irrational “Climate and Covid” proposal:

      THE GREAT RESET: WHO DECLARES ‘WE CANNOT GO BACK TO THE WAY THINGS WERE’ – WHO DIR-GEN: ‘COVID-19 HAS GIVEN NEW IMPETUS TO THE NEED TO ACCELERATE EFFORTS TO RESPOND TO CLIMATE CHANGE’
      https://www.climatedepot.com/2020/08/23/who-warns-coronavirus-vaccine-alone-wont-end-pandemic-we-cannot-go-back-to-the-way-things-were-in-particular-the-covid-19-pandemic-has-given-new-impetus-to-the-need-to-accelerate-efforts/
      WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus during a news conference from the agency’s Geneva headquarters:
      “In particular, the Covid-19 pandemic has given new impetus to the need to accelerate efforts to respond to climate change. The Covid-19 pandemic has given us a glimpse of our world as it could be: cleaner skies and rivers.”
      Marc Morano comments: “You were warned, COVID & Climate – A marriage made in authoritarianism. The morphing of the public health bureaucracy and the climate establishment is at hand. Nothing good can come from this arranged marriage.”

      Rex Murphy describes Trudeau’s adoption of the same bizarre “Climate and Covid” plan:

      TRUDEAU’S ‘BRUTAL’ ATTEMPT TO USE COVID TO PUSH HIS GREEN AGENDA
      An ideological fixation — global warming — is taking over genuine efforts to fix the economy
      Rex Murphy, Aug 27, 2020
      https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-trudeaus-brutal-attempt-to-use-covid-to-push-his-green-agenda/wcm/ddfb5148-a12c-4e5c-944c-af7e7f4a7413/
      “I quoted our new economic czar, Chrystia Freeland, in my last column, saying, “I think all Canadians understand that the restart of our economy needs to be green.” To which I asked, “Where, oh where, did she pick up that strange understanding?” Maybe this would be true if there were a poll taken on Pluto, assuming a few Canadians are there, but not from the Canadians on the planet we are already familiar with.
      There is no basis whatsoever for asserting that all Canadians believe (or want) the recovery to be “green.” What that statement really represents in this government’s grossly cynical attempt to leverage the great health crisis of our time, and the dislocation and anxiety surrounding it, as an instrument to pursue its one unfailing objective: to blunt, wound and radically downscale our central natural resource industry.”

      The full-Gulag lockdown for Covid-19 was NOT necessary:

      As in many other countries, Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer Dr. Theresa Tam followed the World Health Organization’s (WHO) recommendations for the Covid-19 full-Gulag lockdown. The WHO is a willing servant of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). That is why President Trump recently defunded the WHO.

      The WHO greatly exaggerated the severity of the Covid-19 flu, and almost all countries except Sweden bought the WHO’s Big Lie, ordered the full-Gulag lockdown and trashed their economies – even though Covid-19 was obviously much less dangerous to the working population that other seasonal flu’s like that of 2017-2018. This conclusion was clear from available data by early March 2020. The full-Gulag lockdown for Covid-19 was completely unnecessary, a multi-trillion dollar failure that cost trillions, harmed billions and did NOT save lives.

      I independently published this correct conclusion back on 21March 2020 based on available data, and it was not a difficult call. How did the “medical experts“ get it so completely wrong?

      • On July 30, World Health Organization Director General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus announced that the disgraceful Harvard Prof.Cass Sunstein, a behavioral economist, has been appointed chair of a WHO Technical Advisory Group on Behavioral Insights & Sciences for Health. In 2008 Sunstein, the husband of Samantha Power, co-authored the paper “Conspiracy Theories,” which called for “cognitive infiltration” of groups promoting what he in his unerring wisdom considered to be thought crimes.
        Sunstein was brought into the government by U.S. President Barack Obama to administer a “Behavioral Insights Team.” One of his tasks was to overcome the resistance of Americans to the insurance swindle and medical triage program known as “Obamacare.”
        Many have said that behavioral theory was being used by the UK gov’t even before COVID19 (Common Purpose). The NHS got “advice” from another of that behavioral psychology pack.

      • GULAG Russian: ГУЛАГ; acronym for Glavnoe upravlenie lagerei, Главное управление лагерей, ‘Main Directorate of Camps’

      • The WHO is a willing servant of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). That is why President Trump recently defunded the WHO.

        1. Got any sources on this or are we expected to believe you on faith?;

        2. Trump did not “defund” WHO, which is a world organization that gets money from many sources, including the Chinese Government (CG). He withdrew. WHO will get money elsewhere and then your argument will have become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

        Nice going.

        • Actually he did, Democrat Party c**ts are fighting it. Why do you Democrat Party c**ts defend CCP and sh*t on America?

        • Who has a current annual budget of 4.2 Billion US$. The US contributed 851 M$, the next largest contributors were the UK – 463 M$, Gates Foundation – 455M$, GAVI Alliance – 388M$, Germany – 358M$.

          So yeah, they might have to start paying attention to their spending and cut back on things like defined benefit plans for the staff…
          Also stop promoting the killer polio vaccines in Africa might save a few more lives too.

        • psi-sci, the problem with offering evidence is that it’s only presented by media whom you may not trust (but I might), and is not published in media you might trust (but I don’). I assume when one medium stays away from a subjected touted by the other, then there must be some truth that is disconcerting to that outlet.

          Please just google “Tedros WHO China”, look at the relationships, WHO’s responses wrt COVID, and decide for yourself. The information is out there if you are open-minded enough to look for it.

    • Actually that very informative Article is packed with information.
      A thorough overview of pandemics since 430BCE. Global poverty being one key element.
      “Evidence suggests that SARS, MERS, and COVID-19 are only the latest examples of a deadly barrage of coming corona-virus and other emergencies.”
      “Since we cannot return to ancient times, can we at least use lessons from those times to bend modernity in a safer direction? ” – clearly not the Green agenda of a glorious depopulated past.

      Ending poverty, as China fully intends, is a matter of life and death. Nowhere is any evidence of “climate-“thinking mentioned. Dr. Fauci et. al. are devastatingly accurate.

      Missing in the otherwise very useful article is any connection to physical economics, and the emergence of biospheric Sylvatics when the economic platform cannot support the actual population density. I.e. the Potential Relative Population Density of a physical economic platform. If that relative potential is lowered by stopping progress in energy, for example the GND, the biosphere will, again, react.

  2. Credibility is no ordinary word’

    “We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did.”

    Thomas Sowell

  3. “I hope their supply of valium is adequate to get them through the weekend.”

    Mother’s Little Helper…19th Nervous Breakdown. I think I will take one too. Put it in the oatmeal and corn flakes. Maybe then everyone will settle down and just watch the fires they started and go to sleep.

    Maybe a better solution for them would be clonazepam (Klonopin), alprazolam (Xanax), lorazepam (Ativan)
    or triazolam (Halcion) which is stonier than Valium.

    Why do they always have to throw in an Ad Hom to prove they are right…climate deniers. Now I have to call them ‘science deniers’, which they really are. That means you Mr. Michael Mann and I know you read these comments when they are about you.

      • Yes, indeed, for these are two of the prime arsonists who are burning the world down with their global warming and climate change nonsense. A lot of everything stems from these two shiesters (and their minions) that are the pied pipers leading the youth to mayhem, Marxism and chaos with their anti-science lies and deceit. I don’t think we would have as troubled a world as we have today if the likes of these people hadn’t been telling the kids the world is ending because we utilize fossil fuels.

    • I’m pretty sure that “mother’s little helpers” were dexies, which were quite readily available on prescription in those years, for the asking. At least in the UK. I still remember the first time….

      Ah, the nostalgia! It really was a good time to be alive, threats of nuclear armaggedon notwithstanding. No global warming nonsense, no identity politics, no lockdowns on spurious pandemics….

      • Amphetamines are called “dexies,” for Dexedrine, and “speed” and “crystal” for Methedrine. Most of us here probably inhaled once or twice.

        The 5 Mg Valium was a ‘little yellow pill’. Was one of the most prescribed drugs in the world until cholesterol drugs came along, along with the Opioids. Pretty sure Kieth and Mick were talking Valium in context to their hit song circa mid 60’s.

        Mother’s Little Helper
        Song by The Rolling Stones

        What a drag it is getting old
        “Kids are different today”
        I hear ev’ry mother say
        Mother needs something today to calm her down
        And though she’s not really ill
        There’s a little yellow pill
        She goes running for the shelter of a mother’s little helper
        And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day
        “Things are different today”
        I hear ev’ry mother say
        Cooking fresh food for a husband’s just a drag
        So she buys an instant cake and she burns her frozen steak
        And goes running for the shelter of a mother’s little helper
        And two help her on her way, get her through her busy day
        Doctor please, some more of these
        Outside the door, she took four more
        What a drag it is getting old
        “Men just aren’t the same today”
        I hear ev’ry mother say
        They just don’t appreciate that you get tired
        They’re so hard to satisfy, You can tranquilize your mind
        So go running for the shelter of a mother’s little helper
        And four help you through the night, help to minimize your plight
        Doctor please, some more of these
        Outside the door, she took four more
        What a drag it is getting old
        “Life’s just much too hard today”
        I hear ev’ry mother say
        The pursuit of happiness just seems a bore
        And if you take more of those, you will get an overdose
        No more running for the shelter of a mother’s little helper
        They just helped you on your way, through your busy dying day

  4. Peter Gleick
    @PeterGleick

    “It’s a relic that is now front and center.”
    ——————–
    Behold the beauty.
    The “relic” has spoken, when wearing the butt underwear the wrong way around at the same time.
    Supposes to cover the “dirty” hole there.
    Oh well, the “relic” may have got that right after all!

    Still no any near in matching the beauty of the kook in uniform… or that of the stick of hoocky mann… which actually looks more like a whip than a stick, to be honest.

  5. Dr. Linden has forgotten more about atmospheric physics than those mental midgets Mann, Cook, Gleik, as well as the rest of those indulgent bums ever knew combined.

  6. So I tried some of the “debunked” links they tweeted, only one worked. In it, the author is claiming that CO2 warms the oceans, which releases more CO2, which causes more warming, therefore claiming the rise of CO2 in the past lagging warming is a false dichotomy – both are true – CO2 increased which causes more CO2 to be released. It really doesn’t explain how or why CO2 decided to suddenly start increasing.

    I actually do not have a problem with his points that CO2 causes some amount of warming, and a warmer ocean will release more CO2 – it is the amount of warming that I question. If CO2 were the main control knob of warming and it causes significant warming and this causes the oceans to warm and release more CO2 you now have the mechanism of run-away global warming in place. Since we KNOW the Earth cools (and warms) in the past, there has to be other more forceful mechanisms countering this. Hence, while CO2 does warm the atmosphere by some amount (by itself, ignoring other mechanisms), it cannot be the only or even most significant mechanism.

    For reasons I cannot fathom, climate activists seem incapable of accepting negative feedbacks into their thinking. The Earth remains at a stable temperature range because there are positive and negative feedbacks in place that counter each other. The more temperature swings in one direction, the more the feedbacks counter the swing pushing temperatures back.

    Tiny amounts of CO2 gas in the atmosphere cannot possibly control the Earth’s overall temperature. They can merely cause the Earth into a more temperate mode where extreme temperatures are less common. At WORST, cold places will warm significantly, while already warm places warm very little. If this happens, then rainfall will increase in many areas of the world (I hope one is Texas).

    • its called one sided thinking, the planet only warms is burnt into the brain. if one believes that the warming brought about by trace increases in co2 is going to be high enough to defeat normal levels of negative feedback, then you are forced to believe that cooling after such a warming event (started by whatever means) was caused by some event such as meteor strike. what are the chances of the timing of those events? proxy data shows no such cycle of events.

      so the levels of co2 have not in the past been able to defeat the negative feedback. the co2 levels were defined by the temperature. it also means that the change formed by increasing co2 must be within the range of the temperature increase. to put more co2 into the system can have no more effect than the initial change. the feedback component is known and to higher levels of co2 than current, so the larger structure is the feedback, not the co2.

    • Robert,
      This is far too much like common sense. And what is worse, it’s expressed in grammatical, clear sentences, with correct punctuation.
      The activists will never forgive you, but I’ll applaud you.

    • Robert of T

      There another fact here which deserves consideration. At low concentrations CO2 acts as a cooling agent. At high(er) concentrations it is a warming agent, but it never gets as warm as the atmosphere would be if it had no GHG’s at all.

      Consider that there are two mechanisms which heat the atmosphere: direct surface heat transfer and radiatively interacting gases. In a case with only the former, the air heats and cannot cool radiatively. Adding a little GHG allows it to cool and the temperature drops. Adding more does approximately nothing, and adding even more causes modest warming. No matter how much CO2 was added, the atmosphere would never rise to the temperature that pertained in a no-GHG condition.

      So it would be more correct to say that the effect of CO2, as a GHG, varies from significant cooling to modest warming depending on the concentration.

      • Almost correct. At low temperatures, CO2 acts as a net warmant, whereas at higher temperatures, CO2 acts as a net coolant.

        From my prior writings:
        ————————-
        The climate alarmists have no correctly causally-ascribed evidence to support their belief in CAGW (or even in AGW, the non-alarmist version of their hypothesis).

        All their “evidence” is cherry-picked data, data taken out of context, misconstrued data, manipulated data or outright fabricated data. In other words, the climate alarmists now having nothing, because CAGW violates the fundamental physical laws at the quantum level… it does not represent reality, it cannot take place as the alarmists claim.

        If a process (catastrophic atmospheric warming due to CO2) cannot occur at the quantum level, it most certainly cannot occur macroscopically.

        All radiative molecules are dual-role molecules… they can act to warm the atmosphere at atmospheric temperatures below their ‘transition temperature’, or cool the atmosphere at atmospheric temperatures above their ‘transition temperature’.

        Note that when I use the term “transition temperature”, I am not referring to the identical term as used in phase transition.

        The ‘transition temperature’ of any given radiative molecular species is dependent upon the differential between:

        1) the combined translational mode energy of two colliding molecules,

        -and-

        2) the lowest vibrational mode quantum state energy of the radiative molecule.

        When 2) > 1), energy flows from vibrational mode to translational mode, which is a warming process.

        When 1) > 2), energy flows from translational mode to vibrational mode, which is a cooling process.

        ——————–
        1) If the combined translational mode energy of two colliding molecules is higher than the vibrational mode energy of a vibrationally ground-state radiative molecule participating in that collision, energy will flow to the vibrational mode of the radiative molecule, in accord with 2LoT. This decreases atmospheric temperature.

        2) If the combined translational mode energy of two colliding molecules is higher than the vibrational mode energy of a vibrationally-excited radiative molecule participating in that collision, no energy can flow either way, in accord with 2LoT and the Equipartition Theorem. This has no effect upon atmospheric temperature unless the combined translational mode energy of the two colliding molecules is sufficiently high to excite the radiative molecule to an even higher vibrational mode quantum state, in accord with the Equipartition Theorem, and in that case, it would decrease atmospheric temperature.

        3) If the combined translational mode energy of two colliding molecules is lower than the vibrational mode energy of a vibrationally-ground state radiative molecule participating in that collision, no energy can flow either way in accord with the Equipartition Theorem. This has no effect upon atmospheric temperature.

        4) If the combined translational mode energy of two colliding molecules is lower than the vibrational mode energy of a vibrationally-excited radiative molecule participating in the collision, energy flows from vibrational to translational mode, in accord with 2LoT. This increases atmospheric temperature.
        ——————–

        An increased atmospheric CO2 concentration will, below its transition temperature, cause more collisional v-t (vibrational-translational) warming; and will, above its transition temperature, cause more radiative cooling. This damps temperature excursions and moderates atmospheric temperature closer to CO2’s transition temperature.

        The atmosphere obeys the fundamental physical laws, after all.

        Our thermometers display an instantaneous average of molecular kinetic energy. If they could respond fast enough to register every single molecule impinging upon the thermometer probe, we’d see temperature wildly jumping up and down, with a distribution equal to the Maxwell-Boltzmann Speed Distribution Function. In other words, at any given measured temperature, some molecules will be moving faster (higher temperature; higher kinetic energy) and some slower (lower temperature; lower kinetic energy), with an equilibrium distribution (Planckian) curve.

        The vibrational mode quantum state energy levels of CO2:
        https://i.imgur.com/Lj8WbrW.png

        CO2’s lowest vibrational mode quantum state has a wavenumber of 667.4 cm-1 (when including both vibrational and rotational mode energies).

        Vibrational temperature Tv (K) = 1.43877 * 667.4 (cm-1) = 960.235098 K

        “That’s a pretty high vibrational temperature, I don’t think energy is going to flow to the CO2 vibrational mode quantum states during translational-vibrational collisional processes.”, you may say.

        The degeneracy and equal quantum state energies of the CO2{v21(1)}, CO2{v22(2)} and CO2{v23(3)} vibrational mode quantum states means the in-plane and out-of-plane bending modes are resonant and thus equipartition of energy dictates that energy in those modes is shared amongst those modes. Thus the vibrational temperature for that mode must be divided by the number of modes, in this case, 2.

        The translational mode temperature is related to rotational, vibrational and electronic mode temperatures by the Equipartition Theorem.

        The relationship equates to 7/2 R at translational temperatures sufficient to excite electronic mode quantum states.

        The relationship equates to 5/2 R at translational temperatures sufficient to excite vibrational mode quantum states (electronic modes ‘frozen out’).

        The relationship equates to 3/2 R at translational temperatures sufficient to excite rotational mode quantum states (vibrational and electronic modes ‘frozen out’).

        You’ll note the rotational and vibrational modes are responsible for the specific heat capacity of a molecular species. Thus, specific heat capacity isn’t a constant, it has a ‘stair step’ profile as internal energy rises sufficiently such that rotational and then vibrational modes are no longer ‘frozen out’.

        Classically, the Equipartition Theorem predicts that the molar heat capacity of simple monatomic gases should be roughly 3 cal/(mol·K), whereas that of diatomic gases should be roughly 7 cal/(mol·K). Experiments confirmed the former prediction, but found that molar heat capacities of diatomic gases were typically about 5 cal/(mol·K), and fell to about 3 cal/(mol·K) at very low temperatures. Einstein in 1906 showed that quantum effects (the ‘freezing out’ of first electronic mode, then vibrational mode, then rotational mode as temperature decreased) accounted for the discrepancy. This ushered in quantum mechanics.

        Thus, since we’re dealing with CO2’s vibrational mode quantum states, we must divide the vibrational temperature by 5 and multiply by 2.

        480.6211185 K / 5 * 2 = 192.2484474 K

        This is the transition temperature at which CO2’s vibrational mode quantum states are no longer ‘frozen out’, and thus energy can be shared in the vibrational mode degrees of freedom. This energy can be obtained from translational-vibrational collisional processes.

        You’ll note this is very close to the Wien Displacement Law temperature of 193.6 K for 14.96782 um radiation.

        When considering two colliding molecules in a head-on collision, their translational energy is cumulative, so each would require 1/2 of the kinetic energy necessary to excite CO2’s vibrational mode quantum states via t-v (translational-vibrational) processes.

        A CO2 molecule at that temperature would have:
        Most probable speed: 426.149084602505 m/s
        Mean speed: 480.8577491422898 m/s
        RMS speed: 521.9239058151385 m/s

        The Maxwell-Boltzmann Speed Distribution Function at 288 K (the stated average global temperature) for CO2 gives a gas fraction for molecular speeds from 426.149084602505 m/s to 1650 m/s (an arbitrarily high number to encompass all molecules with sufficient kinetic energy to vibrationally excite CO2 upon molecular collision) of 34.22%.

        https://i.imgur.com/cmdkOwH.png

        An N2 molecule at that temperature would have:
        Most probable speed: 534.1302997114386 m/s
        Mean speed: 602.7015027088697 m/s
        RMS speed: 654.1733452264368 m/s

        The Maxwell-Boltzmann Speed Distribution Function at 288 K (the stated average global temperature) for N2 gives a gas fraction for molecular speeds from 534.1302997114386 m/s to 1650 m/s (an arbitrarily high number to encompass all molecules with sufficient kinetic energy to vibrationally excite CO2 upon molecular collision) of 34.22%.

        https://i.imgur.com/gT4v1ir.png

        Therefore, at ~288 K, there are a significant number of atmospheric molecules with kinetic energy sufficient to vibrationally excite CO2 via translational-vibrational (t-v) collisional processes.

        This increases the time duration during which CO2 is vibrationally excited and therefore the probability that it will radiatively emit.

        The conversion of translational mode energy (which we sense as temperature) to vibrational mode energy is, by definition, a cooling process.

        The emission of the resultant radiation to space is, by definition, a cooling process.

        You will sometimes read “CO2 doesn’t have time to emit IR because the radiative de-excitation time is much longer than the mean time between collisions”. This conclusion is a simplified view of the situation. In conditions where collisions dominate (ie: below the tropopause), CO2 will indeed often vibrationally de-excite via v-t (vibrational-translational) collisional processes. But by the same token it will also often vibrationally excite via t-v (translational-vibrational) collisional processes at a rate dependent upon the ratio of atmospheric molecules which carry sufficient kinetic energy to excite CO2’s vibrational modes, as we calculated above.

        Merely because a vibrationally-excited CO2 molecule undergoes collision with another molecule (in conditions where the translational mode energy of the two colliding molecules is higher than CO2’s vibrational mode energy and therefore energy cannot flow from vibrational to translational mode) doesn’t reset the “clock” on CO2’s radiative de-excitation time. Given that out of the three most abundant molecular constituents of our atmosphere (N2, O2, CO2), only CO2 can radiatively emit and break LTE, the net energy flow is to CO2 via t-v collisional processes above ~288 K.

        The energetic pathways detailed above:
        X (at ~288K+) + CO2{v20(0)} (at ~288K+) –(t-v)–> X + CO2{v21(1)} –> CO2{v20(0)} + 667.4 cm-1

        X (at ~288.1K+) + CO2{v21(1)} (at ~288.1K+) –(t-v)–> X + CO2{v22(2)} –> CO2{v21(1)} + 667.8 cm–1 –> CO2{v20(0)} + 667.4 cm-1

        X (at ~288.2K+) + CO2{v22(2)} (at ~288.2K+) –(t-v)–> X + CO2{v23(3)} –> CO2{v22(2)} + 668.10 cm–1 –> CO2{v21(1)} + 667.8 cm–1 –> CO2{v20(0)} + 667.4 cm-1

        X denotes any atmospheric molecule.

        This has been known about since at least 1971. The PDF below uses older nomenclature and only includes the lowest vibrational mode quantum state:
        https://web.archive.org/web/20190702044509/https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/725111.pdf

        The absorbed energy in Reaction (33) once again comes from translation. Two reactions of type (33) must occur for every one of the type indicated by Reaction (32) to maintain the CO2 in thermal equilibrium. The removal of energy from the translational modes by Reactions (32) and (33) cools the CO2 molecular system, and, concomitantly, the air.

        Now, granted, not all molecular collisions are going to be head-on, and the kinetic energy imparted to vibrational mode quantum states is dependent upon angle of collision, but the data above shows that at and above ~288 K (the stated average global temperature), the majority of the molecular constituents of the atmosphere carry sufficient kinetic energy to begin significantly vibrationally exciting CO2 via t-v collisional processes.

        We can use the Boltzmann Factor to determine the vibrationally excited population of CO2{v21(1)} due to translational-vibrational (t-v) collisional processes.

        1 cm-1 = 11.9627 J mol-1
        667.4 cm-1 = 667.4 * 11.9627 / 1000 = 7.98390598 kJ mol-1

        The Boltzmann Factor at 288 K has the value 1 / (7983.90598 / 288) = 0.03607256908103018517760651284623 which means that 3.6072569% of the CO2 molecules are in the lowest state of the lowest vibrationally excited quantum mode (ie: {v21(1)}). These are the molecules that form the lower energy state for the next higher transitions which have an even lower population.

        —–

        The above doesn’t even take into account the other two energetic pathways by which CO2 can act as a net atmospheric coolant above ~288 K:

        X (at ~288K+) + N2{v1(0)} (at ~288K+) –(t-v)–> X + N2{v1(1)} –> N2{v1(1)} + CO2{v20(0)} –(v-v)–> N2{v1(0)} + CO2{v3(1)} –> CO2{v1(1)} + 961.54 cm-1

        X (at ~288K+) + N2{v1(0)} (at ~288K+) –(t-v)–> X + N2{v1(1)} –> N2{v1(1)} + CO2{v20(0)} –(v-v)–> N2{v1(0)} + CO2{v3(1)} –> CO2{v20(2)} + 1063.83 cm-1

        X denotes any atmospheric molecule.

        We can use the Boltzmann Factor to determine the vibrationally excited population of N2 due to translational-vibrational (t-v) collisional processes.

        N2{v1(1)} (stretch) mode at 2345 cm-1 (4.26439 µm), correcting for anharmonicity, centrifugal distortion and vibro-rotational interaction

        1 cm-1 = 11.9627 J mol-1
        2345 cm-1 = 2345 * 11.9627 / 1000 = 28.0525315 kJ mol-1

        The Boltzmann factor at 288 K has the value 1 / (28052.5315 / 288) = 0.01026645313632390003732818195035 which means that 1.026645313632390003732818195035% of N2 molecules are in the N2{v1(1)} vibrationally excited state due to translational-vibrational (t-v) processes.

        Given that CO2 constitutes 0.041% of the atmosphere (410 ppm), and N2 constitutes 78.08% of the atmosphere (780800 ppm), this means that 4.1984 ppm of CO2 is excited to its {v3} mode quantum state via collisional translational-to-vibrational (t-v) processes, whereas 80162.3936 ppm of N2 is excited via the same (t-v) processes. This is a ratio of 1 vibrationally excited CO2 to 19093 vibrationally excited N2. You’ll note this is 10.028 times higher than the total CO2:N2 ratio of 1:1904, and 195 times more vibrationally excited N2 molecules than all CO2 molecules (vibrationally excited or not). Thus energy will flow from the higher-energy and higher-concentration vibrationally-excited N2 (said N2 vibrational mode quantum states being meta-stable and relatively long-lived because N2 is a homonuclear diatomic with no net magnetic dipole and thus cannot radiatively emit unless perturbed via collision) to vibrationally ground-state CO2.

        The conversion of translational mode energy (which we sense as temperature) to vibrational mode energy of N2 is, by definition, a cooling process.

        The transfer of that N2 vibrational mode energy to vibrational mode energy of CO2, then that energy being emitted to space as radiation is, by definition, a cooling process. The resultant radiation from the last two energetic pathways is in the Infrared Atmospheric Window, thus any upwelling radiation has a nearly unfettered path out to space.

        An increased atmospheric CO2 concentration will increase the likelihood of vibrationally-excited N2 colliding with CO2, thereby increasing the likelihood of CO2 radiatively emitting, thereby increasing the radiative cooling effect.

        —–

        Calculators to perform the calculations yourself:
        http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Kinetic/kintem.html#c3
        http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Kinetic/eqpar.html#c2
        http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mod2.html#c4

        You can download the Wolfram Player and the Maxwell-Boltzmann Speed Distribution Function file:
        https://www.wolfram.com/player/
        https://www.demonstrations.wolfram.com/TheMaxwellSpeedDistribution/

        • Is the vibrational energy mode equivalent to excited electrons in higher energy shells? Or are they distinct? It’s a little hard to fathom after reading your description. I was thinking about the difference between temperatures in gases versus solids, and how each molecule’s kinetic energy (either translational or vibrational) contributes to an aggregate temperature, but when there is enough vibrational energy as you mention above, the energy can be converted to radiation via dropping down an entire quantum energy level. I pictured the vibrational energy in solids as being roughly equivalent to the translational energy in gases, but if vibration corresponds to higher-state excited electrons, then it’s not really quite the same at all.

  7. A bit warmer and a bit more C02 will only help to green the planet, and we could use more greenery, lusher, healthier plants. Net helpful.

  8. Er “War is strength
    “Freedom is ignorant
    Peace is ..er Peace is ..er ..er What’s peace again Michael ?”
    ” Oh Fxxck it John ,,never mind! “

  9. Mann, Cook, and Gleick are as well trained to ‘salivate’ (here, emote denial outrage) as were Pavlov’s dogs. Only the training means differ.
    Pavlov used metronome sounds and dog treats to induce ‘anticipatory salivation’. These folks were trained to emote denial when presented with facts to deny then climate grants.

  10. Orangemanbad and his Evil Time Machine strike once again! My fav is when he went back to 2014 and locked all those poor daca chi’drens in cages and fed them nutritious food, the bastich.

  11. Trump basically owns the US news cycle now.
    So Mann and Cook’s constantly triggered mental state manifests as Chronic TDS and it is driving them into unhinged madness unable to check basic things like date posted. Everything now they don’t like is Trump’s fault somehow, even it was done before Trump became POTUS.

    • Orangemanbad caused my grandmother’s gout! Overoffensensitivity. Berke Breathed was so far ahead of the game with Bloom County, he nailed all of this crap 30 odd years ago.

  12. Cranky Uncle says, “There’s single cause fallacy in that old chestnut “climate has always changed so it must be natural”, …”

    He has forgotten about Occam’s Razor, which says “plurality should not be posited without necessity.” That places a heavy burden on alarmists to present compelling evidence that the simplest explanation (natural variation) is insufficient to explain the current warming. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Occams-razor

    Or, quoting Carl Sagan, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Extraordinary_claims_require_extraordinary_evidence

    • Ask him to formulate a falsifiable hypothesis.

      …. about what you may wonder? Well anything really.

    • I just cannot believe how nuts that site is : https://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-natural-cycle.htm :
      “Our climate has accumulated
      2,911,648,344
      Hiroshima atomic bombs
      of heat since 1998”

      They have an fission atomic bomb counter! I’ll bet they do not realize the Sun actually uses fusion on a vast scale.

      Yet it is lawful that they appeal to Hiroshima, the actual nuclear terrorist action to intimidate US citizens, by Harry S Truman . That is a psyop.

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